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[The pro/con outrages in the news about President Trump are filling up sandboxes even faster than usual. And the spate of eagerly published fake news stories that get retracted regularly now are keeping several pots boiling in the intervals. gjr]

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297 responses to “Sandbox – 24jan17”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, we will not solve this over a cup of coffee. We have Court rulings, numerous efforts by State AG’s and the like.
    The only agrument that I have heard that would help but is highly unlikely is to go back to everyone physically showing up at the voting place on Election Day. No vote by mail, no electronic voting, no early voting. A paper trail the day of. Election Day is but one day. But, if you got a State issued ID or even without one, just raise your right hand and swear you are a citizen, then you vote. Solve that problem.
    As a side note, when that “racist” Jeff Sessions was AG of Alabama cracking down on the KKK, he uncovered a house that had 75 ballots cast from that address. He prosecuted and had those 75 votes thrown out, which helped a local black man win a small town election. It was been going on for years, illegal aliens or not.
    The Jill Stein recount uncovered more votes for Hillary than registered voters in the first precincts they surveyed in Detroit on a preliminary recount. The recount got shut down at the same time. Probably a coincidence.
    Solve that here on RR? Ah, all we can do is bitch and moan and move on to the next thang.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Hear the LIBs? Another TRILLION infrastructure spending fiasco. The Repub answer, “That worked out swell the last time. Didn’t it?”
    https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/policy/finance/315871-dems-unveil-infrastructure-plan-reach-out-to-trump
    If a LIB wrote it, RUN!!!

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    5:22 pm.
    Great news and a great move by Trump’s team. I play Gorka video clips now and then. Smart man. Wealth of knowledge. Fantastic mannerisms. Thoughtful, articulate. To the point………..psssttt, he’s a Russian spy. 🙂

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  4. Walt Avatar

    OFF with their heads!
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/24/days-into-trump-admin-corrupt-employees-are-already-being-fired-at-the-va/
    Wait till you read some of the excuses for not getting fired….

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BT 603- DOH! 😉

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Paul,, what ya’ think about those EPA grant freezes?

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    5:51 pm. One look at the co-sponsors and it is run away at a very high rate of speed.
    Been reading Lefty blogs about Trump locking down outside communications leaving the EPA and USDA. Hey, this is soooo great. Dictator for life!! They tried to warn us!
    Actually, it’s no tweets and no shredding documents or private e-mails outgoing, or talking to the public until the new team gets settled in. This is only Day 2. They need to look at all those internal studies and such to run the department, right? Hate to have papers shoved down one’s pants and walk out the door like Sandy Berger. I am sure the EPA has received a wealth of advice from various interest groups, but what do I know. Above my pay grade.
    Just feeding Paul some good dirt to dig up when he is in his yurt.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So, this is what Draining the Swamp feels like. First time in my life I have felt it. I could get used to this real quick.
    Drain the Swamp and plug the leaks. Better than just smoking ’em out. Never get tired of winning. “But, but, Mr. Trump, can’t we just let them win once? I am getting tired of winning”
    “No!” Look to the campaign trail to figure it out. This sumbitch meant it. Well, I be horn diddled.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    I used to work for a guy who was a lot like Trump. No BS, all business. Wasting money was not in his DNA. Giving his customers 100% of their money’s worth is what made him BIG bucks. In turn, he paid us grunts well. Those that didn’t perform didn’t last long.
    A company is only as good as the employees one hires. Trump knows this. So does this ditch digger.
    And some wonder why I backed Trump from day one?
    So why am I not working for that same guy today? I would be if I didn’t physically self destruct. Heavy iron beats the hell out of the best of us.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I never heard of this site nor care to verify anything. Better not let anyone see this. Probably some fake news troll to incite passions.
    https://therepublicannews.net/2017/01/23/trump-orders-removal-of-islamic-symbols-practices-in-the-white-house/

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Bill. That’s probably more fact than fiction. “O” was/is a staunch sympathiser of pissed Muslims. From singing the praises of the Muslim Brotherhood , to spending a few million bucks blowing up the crappiest vehicles he could find with guided missiles. Not tanks, not training camps, not oil and fuel delivery vehicles.
    He did a fine job of attacking Israel. The Jews get attacked my Hamas, and “O”‘s on the phone and in the press scolding Israel. “how dare you protect yourself.”.
    Nope “O” had no love for the Jews.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, I am going through my head and there are parts of men I have known that make up a composite of Trump. Its not perfect because of that Queens, NY and opulence in him, but I know that guy.
    Billionaire story. Quiet man. One day he walks into the company office that ain’t no bigger than a Taco Bell. Has an empire, and that is the office. He sees a couch in the entry. It’s new. He says, “Get rid of it. We are here to work, not sit around.” Don’t think making the WH work offices all warm and fuzzy or comfortable is a consideration. In fact, might be a hinderance. Get rid of it.
    Yet, when Kanye West had his total breakdown and Trump had just won the election, there is West in the Tower with Trump stopping everything to put his arm around him and give him some time, encouragement, and moral support. That billionaire that said “get rid of it” would also sell you his truck for a 100 bucks if he heard you were in dire straights and both your cars were broken down. And put his arm around you.
    I know some Jersey types. Close enough to Queens. 🙂

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  13. Mikel Avatar
    Mikel

    Trump killed Tea pee pee.. My guess is that Mr Emery is now a Trumper.

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  14. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    More ‘fake news’ news.
    Sally Brown from Boise town opened her yap in public and told us she would need to shut down other white people.
    Her defence? You guessed it! Fake News!
    She claimed her remarks were taken out of context, even though the ultra super duper far far extreme right wing web site printed her full remarks as well as showing the actual video.
    So, the Boise Statesman also printed her full text but somehow that’s not fake news when they do the same thing.
    So – having your full statement made available to the public is ‘fake news’.
    But only if you’re an unhinged leftie.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sally Brown. Oh, she just exposed the jocking for position going on in the heart and soul of the Democrat Party. Noticed Sally Brown’s spiel was music to the ears of the assembled power brokers. They loved it and were beaming ear to ear, White Priviledge makes everything, including the founding of our country and the Constitution wrong, bad, and “illegitimate”. It’s all wrong and oppressive because of the inherit injustice of White Priviledge.
    Interesting to follow the process of selecting the new DNC chair. Now Keith Ellison is taking some flack for getting too close to some Establishment types as he is trying to build a coalition. Chucky is taking every opportunity available no matter what the occasion or topic to hit the blue collar working class Democrat values.
    The process is never an election issue in politics, albeit you can’t convince the pundits otherwise as they write volumes about it decade after decade. Voters do not vote on process or Party infighting or insider stuff. With that said, the Dems remain first and foremost the party trapped into being the party of identity politics.
    Sally Brown is just the latest of many to voice what every lib is spouting and believe to be true. Whites must recognize their unfair advantage in society at every level and recognize and denounce even unconscious and unaware Privilege.
    Sally Brown gets it. Social Justice Warriors get it. Hilary Hodge gets it. Brother Ben gets it. America will never be truly a land of equality until we all get it. I am opened minded enough to see where they are coming from.
    Saly means White People should stop talking, listen, and understand….so we can get it. Then there will be true justice for all. A colorblind society is bad because that attitude just not get it.
    I get it. I am neither a victim nor an oppressor. I get it the the Dems will never get past identity politics, nor do they wish to. It’s why they feel that we should not have borders or
    economic patriotism. The view of identity politics does not allow it.
    I get it. Because I get it, I refuse to check my White Privilege at the door. And because I get it, I am sick and tired of talking incessantly about race. No mas.
    Go pound sand. Good bless you Charlie and Sally Brown.
    https://patriotpost.us/posts/47060

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I want that yappy white cracker broad to get the post of SDNC Chair! She could share it with Ellison. Please democrats put them in charge!

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Fake news is now when you have an exact quote, video, and audio of what a politician said, they claim “fake news” to dismiss it rather than walk it back.
    Idaho is close to Spokane where the white farm girl from Montana got her fame as being the black woman running the local chapter of the NAACP (Rachel Dolezal, 38) and where Mizzou’s Melissa “Get your hands off the children” Glick ended up (Gonzaga U). The land of white rural bitter clingers is certainly making a name for itself.
    Sally Brown for DNC chair, Keith Ellison for President, Rachel Dolezal for Bureau of Indian Affairs, and Melissa Glick for Ministry of Information!
    http://louderwithcrowder.com/melissa-glick-disgraced-mizzou-professor-caught-yelling-profanity-at-police/

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Where is Boardman? It’s time for him to BUY stocks! DOW breaks 20,000!

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Looks like there is a problem with voter registration within the White House. Trumps “advisor” Stave Bannon (from Slimebart) is apparently registered in two states,,
    According to The Guardian, one of the people guilty of being registered in two states is White House strategist Steve Bannon.
    An investigation by the paper found that Bannon registered to vote in New York last year even though he was already on the rolls in Florida. Bannon lists his New York apartment as his current voting address. But he also claims the home of Andy Badolato as his address for voting in Florida.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt: we better nicer to Boardman. Fatso s obsessed with him. Looks like Dr. Rebane got kicked down a peg to make room in the crosshairs for Mr. B. I figured out going over there once a month is still way to much. I will go there quarterly to see if that works better for me. To each his own.
    Anyway, Mr. Boardman is better than the alternative any day. Yeah, buy high, sell low. 🙂

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  21. Walt Avatar

    He vote twice Paul? If so, prosecute. My Brother who hasn’t set foot in this county in 20 years is still on the voter rolls here. He’s probably still on the rolls in Colorado, as well as D.C., yet now lives in England.
    Hell! I bet I’m still one the rolls in New Mexico from 30 years ago, when I was stationed there.
    Forget the LIBS fight tooth and nail to clean up voter registration records?
    So what’s your point?

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, see how easy it is? My wife recently moved back to Nirvana Silly full time, and again registered to vote… I bet she is registered in both places, too. Did Bannon double vote? I’m guessing not.
    Now we just need to ferret out voters whose previous address was in another country and have not been naturalized USA since then.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Trump is going to have Sessions put it together to go after the fraud. California is nrevous as those illegals with a drivers license were allowed to vote. Paul must be for that since he is so adamant there is no problem
    Spicer just finished his PC. I think he is great. It is so nice to hear people talk and do what we have been denied for all these years. Even in the GWB where they never responded to attacks on us.

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  24. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Trump and the EPA: Trump Shift
    H/T to Dr Judith Curry
    Trump administration tells EPA to cut climate page from website The employees were notified by EPA officials on Tuesday that the administration had instructed EPA’s communications team to remove the website’s climate change page, which contains links to scientific global warming research, as well as detailed data on emissions.
    Here is why Trump can do these things:
    Article 2 of the Constitution on the Executive Branch spells it out:
    Excerpt of the key section:

    Clause 1. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

    Here the Framers spell out several of the president’s more important powers. First and foremost, he is commander-in-chief of the military. Second, he is the boss of the heads of all the civilian departments of government; the bit here about requiring their written opinions provides the constitutional basis for the cabinet. And third, he has the power to pardon individuals convicted of crimes.
    Basically, the civilian departments such as EPA, USDA and NOAA now work for President Trump, with the Directors of these agencies working with the administration to further the President’s policies.
    You may ask: What about academic freedom for government research scientists? Forget about it, it doesn’t exist. Scientists working in government labs, agencies, etc. work on scientific problems or technologies that further the administrations interests. Does this mean that it is legitimate for them to torque scientific findings in the direction of the administrations interests? No. Rather, it means that government employed scientists shall now work on projects that are of interest to the Trump administration.
    That the Trump administration has different policy priorities than the Obama administration should be obvious to everyone by now. It seems that climate change is on the ‘hot seat’; I also infer from the attention being paid to the USDA is that GMO’s are on the ‘hot seat.’

    Shift at the speed of Trump!

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “According to NPR, any review would violate the EPA’s scientific policy published in 2012 that prevents the suppression of agency findings.”
    Well, that is the difference between a policy and Da Law.
    Good answer T Rex: I concur.
    “Some, but not all, of his Cabinet nominees have also cast doubt on climate science. Secretary of State-designate Rex Tillerson, the former chief executive of Exxon Mobil, said earlier this month that climate change did exist but did not say whether it was related to human activity.”
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-likely-review-epa-scientists-npr-174006275.html

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Mary Tyler Moore has passed today. I have to say I always loved her.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Good job Frisco. That high dollar minimum wage sure paid off.
    http://sf.eater.com/2016/9/16/12943454/restaurants-closed-fall-2016-san-francisco
    I bet this is just the start of the implosions.

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  28. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    Watching Fox and Friends this morning, it was so cute to see the hosts of the show looking at a live webcam feed of the White House and postulating whether or not a lighted window was Trump’s room. The put out a request over the air to blink the light if they were watching Fox News. The light began flashing a little bit later driving the hosts into a state of kumbaya.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Well it shows you the power of a fair network. FOX is by far the most watched.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Just caught 20 seconds of Trump talking. Triple ICE employees, 5,000 more border agents, fund for victims of crime committed by illegal aliens……..
    I wonder what Hillary would have done the morning of day 3, ROFLMAO.
    I feel like doing a jig. Oh happy days. The Lefties & MSM still cannot figure out the the ground has shifted beneath their feet. The self appointed watchmen of democracy are the last to know. Go figure.
    I better explain it to them: Hey Revolutionaries, meet the counter-revolution. Nothing puts terror in the hearts of the revolutionaries like the thought of a counter-revolution. There. Now go have Mommy kiss your boo-boo.
    @ 12:18 pm. Sorry about Mary Tyler Moore. She was a good person, a good lady. Best thing on the Dick Van Dyke Show was Mary. Everything she did, the best thing about the endevear was Mary Tyler Moore.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This is getting too easy. Saw this one coming before the buses were even chartered. Too predictable. Who is the victim today?
    Racial tensions were evident during the Women’s March. Some demonstrators held signs reading, “Being Scared Since 2016 Is Privilege,” “White Women Elected Trump” and “White Lives Matter Too Much.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/24/black-lives-matter-resents-peaceful-favorable-wome/
    Can’t blame their resentment. Got kicked to the back of the bus again. I, for one, would not want to be sharing a dorm with white people either.
    Oh BTW, that was not pepper spray at the Trump riots. It was the new and improved participation trophies that now come in liquid form.

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  32. ScenesFromTheApocalypse Avatar
    ScenesFromTheApocalypse

    “I wonder what Hillary would have done the morning of day 3, ROFLMAO. I feel like doing a jig.”
    She might just join you.
    http://imgur.com/6T7d7my

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sure Todd let them spend big bucks investigating Calif voter fraud. Let’ see, they have to come up with 3-5 million examples to verify Trumps spoutings. this is beyond funny.
    13.2 million people voted in the presidential election – a turnout of 72% of California’s 18.2 million registered voters. Since Trump refuses to accept Calif voter turnout that means about one in four Calif votes would be illegal for Trump to be right. Go for it Donald.
    Who is going to pay for that inquiry Todd?

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    From Fox News
    Fox News anchor Shep Smith took on President Donald Trump’s voter fraud claims on Wednesday, Jan. 25 in a segment with A.B. Stoddard, an associate editor with RealClearPolitics.
    “It is the reporting of Fox News that widespread voter fraud did not happen,” Smith said. “There’s no evidence that widespread voter fraud happened, there never has been.” Stoddard agreed there is no evidence of voter fraud, questioning how much money such an investigation handled at the federal level will cost tax payers.

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Didn’t you hear PE, there is a new tax on Druids to pay for that.;-)

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 255pm – Re voter fraud – can you explain why no liberal commenter will touch the material presented by Heritage that bears on voter fraud. The numbers presented are appalling, yet no one wants to address what that data infers. Scenes 227pm above cited the same link –
    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/07/the-threat-of-non-citizen-voting

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Lets do this George
    Since there’s no predicting how illegal votes would swing if verified lets do the research then, if proven, have a new election.

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 312pm – Is this your comedy routine? You can bet the ranch, and I would, that illegal votes favor Democrats by more than 1,000 to 1.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 January 2017 at 02:55 PM
    Stoddard agreed there is no evidence of voter fraud, questioning how much money such an investigation handled at the federal level will cost tax payers.

    Since when do we care what things will cost the taxpayer?

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump, our brave new leader has pledged to cut expenses. Just an estimate will do.
    George
    That’s an assumption on your part but cannot be proven based only on your estimate. I say, to keep things honest lets do the investigation and if voter fraud is proven then the only way to know what the effect of fraud is is to have a new election.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    From the hen house.
    http://smokeroom.com/2017/01/25/the-view-hosts-are-stunned-that-donald-trump-is-doingwhat-he-promised-during-campaign/
    ““When you look at his agenda, it’s exactly what he said he was going to do,” Bila told Behar. “This is what people who voted for him voted for.”
    “Literally — he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do,” Behar complained.
    Later in the show, Whoopi Goldberg complained that Republicans would fix roads, bridges and other infrastructure problems so they could say “we fixed the country.”
    “Anything they can get done where they can say, ‘See! He’s doing his job.’”
    Man.. How dare Trump do what he promised, and these old bats complain about things actually getting better.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    LOL… Paul wants a “do over”. Not happening bub… Trump has accomplished more in four days than “O” did in eight years.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well Walt what’s the point of correcting voter fraud, if it is indeed proven to be a problem, without redoing the election? I don’t get it.

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  44. Gary Smith Avatar

    Dr. Rebane:
    On your 3:08 post, an interesting article you linked to. What may explain the 3% of non-citizens on jury duty could be how they the court got their data. In California the County Jury service get their data from the voting rolls and the DMV drivers license. They combine the 2 together to get their jury pool. Since non-citizens can get a license here, that may be where the error is? Of course they are supposed to get a different drivers license showing they are not a citizen.
    In California we are radically changing our voter registration system. We used to be a opt in system, you had to register to vote. Now we are going to an opt out system. If you don’t want to be registered you have to opt out. By having a California drivers license or ID you will be automatically registered to vote. I don’t have a high level of confidence of DMV and the SOS office being able to keep all of the felons and non-citizens out of voter registration system.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 January 2017 at 03:47 PM
    Well Walt what’s the point of correcting voter fraud, if it is indeed proven to be a problem, without redoing the election? I don’t get it.

    You generally don’t get to un-murder somebody…..we do however try to prevent future murders.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fish
    Well if there are indeed millions of fraudulent voters then the final results may not be accurate. How best to correct this than to have a new election. Seems logical to me.
    It’s been noted that Steve Bannon has multiple registrations in his name and he is indeed a Trump supporter so how do we know he didn’t vote twice for Trump?

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No worries PE, we can get the voter rolls purged before the midterms, heck even before the primaries with data mining. As to paying for it, cutting 20% of the civilian federal workforce and downsizing certain agencies will generate lots of savings. Purging the rolls is a computer operation, not a lot of man time, just have to authorize the program to do the analytics. 😉

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  48. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    I brought this effort up before, the one proven intervention in American Election was Mexico’s President, who encouraged all Mexican Citizens to Vote in the US Presidential Election.
    Stop Trump Movement Gets Boost From Mexico’s Efforts in U.S.
    Mexico is mounting an unprecedented effort to turn its permanent residents in the U.S. into citizens, a status that would enable them to vote — presumably against Donald Trump.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-20/stop-trump-movement-gets-boost-from-mexico-s-efforts-in-u-s
    Given that CA Drivers lIcence is all that is needed to register and as of 1 Jan 2015 illegals can register for a CA driver’s licence, it does not take too much imagination that some voter fraud took place. We will never know how much until the investigation is complete. Give Governor Brown’s Resistance Speech yesterday, it may be very difficult to do an effective audit in CA. Given that Democrats control most of the County Election Offices, it will be very difficult to get access to the data, as the Democrats do not want this investigation, though Trump goaded them into demanding one. Humm Grand Strategy?

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  49. George Rebane Avatar

    Russ 429pm – Another burden put on the liberals’ crickets. No one has mentioned the palpable effect that such a call from Mexico would have had on the November election.
    With all the confounding factors that may/not have influenced the vote, I believe citing the popular vote to pro/con any argument is now beyond moot and a waste of time.

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