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Sandbox – 24jan17

24 January 2017

[The pro/con outrages in the news about President Trump are filling up sandboxes even faster than usual. And the spate of eagerly published fake news stories that get retracted regularly now are keeping several pots boiling in the intervals. gjr]

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297 responses to “Sandbox – 24jan17”

Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

Dr. Rebane, I keep forgetting to congratulate you on Army’s bowl game win in overtime. You done good, sir. It is of worth to be noted in the first comment.
BTW, the Year of the Reckoning did not end in December 31 on the calander year.. Nay, it continues for a few more months. The exact start date originated when giants roamed the earth and were felled by a mere shepherd boy with rudy hair.

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

So had anyone given the new term “Alternative facts” a definition? I think it might be one of interpreting a fact. Since the war over the numbers watching the inauguration I decided that we can define things any way we want.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

I saw a picture of the empty Washinon Mall, save for a wondering tourists. It was the HRC Inaugural.

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Walt

24 January 2017

HALLELUJAH!! And this is just day two…..
http://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-to-sign-orders-advancing-keystone-dakota-pipelines/

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

For Hillary Hodge.
Another screed from a “victim” of what? Rights? Tell me how you must fight for rights you already have? My goodness, the left is unhinged. Our Constitution is for all, males, females all races. Heck you get to extra rights as far as I can tell. Since abortion seems to be the thing that drives your hysteria tell us why a man is not allowed to have a say in the child’s termination when his DNA makes up half of the human? Yet when a woman decides to have the child against the males wishes, he is made to pay support? Is that fair? Is that equal rights?
If you had stayed away from Trump bashing maybe the thirty million women who voted for Trump would listen to you. But you and you liberal friends are all about division and not listening to pothers. How come you can’t come to the middle on these issues? You always demand those opposed to you come to you. Well, cry me a river now you may have to compromise.
If you are proud of the rude and crudeness spoken at the DC march, then you are truly unhinged. If that is the best you have representing, you America is in deep trouble. I say take your protests to places that really have no women’s rights. Like Saudi Arabia and Sudan. See how far you get.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

@ 8:34.
I got to cut the Liberal Only Women’s March some slack….at least locally. If they want to parade around carrying signs and spreading the message it is their right. Besides, imagine getting back from a long day in Sacramento to find your car towed. You think you forgot where you parked it at first glance. You are wandering the parking lot dressed as a giant viagina searching for your vehicle as the rain begins to fall. People start gawking at you and posting pictures of a “crazy lady dressed as a viagina” to the amusement of thousands on social media. Not a fun place to be.
I, for one, feel their pain. If it makes them feel better about themselves, that is a nice silver lining. The March won’t change a thing, but if they feel good about themselves for doing something, then that is all that matters.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1012478972219473/?type=3&theater
Moving on. That is now in the past.

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Walt

24 January 2017

I have yet to see a gripe in The Rag about all the cars towed. I was sure that would make headlines, and a whine for crowdfunding to get their wheels out of jail.
No pictures of the parade of tow trucks? Yes, the local rag has sure gone downhill.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

I seriously doubt Safeway would have had cars towed. Not their style. But, to take up a portion on the parking lot on a rainy day in town…..on a Saturday when most hard working folk do their shopping is just plain rude and inconsiderate. They could have parked under the freeway in that parking lot nobody parks in or at the Rood Center. I hope our disabled citizens did not have to walk too far across the parking lot in the rain to buy food. Probably a disabled elderly woman in pain called to complain. We must think of others when living on the altruistic plane. 🙂
Off topic:
Yo Walt, any damage from that cell that hit Sunday afternoon at your place? It was wild for me exposed in the open on top of a unnamed ridge. I built some lattice panels years ago to grow nice rare desert evergreen winter flowering vines that can take the heat, wind, and drought. My own natural shade screen tunnel here in the Inferno Zone. They held up just fine during The Storm of the Century. They held up just fine during the Storm of the Decade. They did not hold up to the unnamed storm cell Sunday afternoon. Must have been a direct hit. 30 mph winds, my petunia! The lattice panels (heavy duty and designed for max wind to pass through) look like a bear ran through them. Go figure. The storm with no name did more damage here than that freak tornado that touched down four years ago.

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Walt

24 January 2017

We came out unscathed. We sit on the North side of a small hill. Now when things come from the North, things get a tad dicey. Even the crappy roof job from years back, only shed two shingles.(the nails they used were too damned short.)
Good thing Dear old Dad didn’t build the family home on top of Pilot Peak as he originally planned. It may have wound up in my front yard. (I sure miss that place)

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Gregory

24 January 2017

Here’s something for Paul E, Rasmussen has 57% of Likely U.S. Voters approving of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-three percent (43%) disapprove.
So far, it appears to most observers he’s been doing pretty much what he was elected to do.

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Gregory

24 January 2017

btw George, worthy of your OUR LINKS list is Realclear Politics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
They do a nice job of finding interesting op-eds across a wide range of viewpoints. Always good if one is wanting to waste some time reading what others are thinking. It’s become one of my touchstones.

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Walt

24 January 2017

Just got back from town. If you go near the GV “crater” stay out of the South bound slow lane on 49. A new “dip” has formed upstream of the big hole. It wasn’t there a few days ago.

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BradC

24 January 2017

Get your tickets while they last -Jan. 27th Right to Life march!
http://marchforlife.org/mfl-2017/

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Walt

24 January 2017

Break out the ant-acids Paul and Steve.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2017/01/24/donald-trump-tells-detroit-auto-ceos-environmental-regulations-are-out-of-control/?utm_term=.2d9c9ed414aa

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BradC

24 January 2017

Davis, Ca – land of extremes –
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/01/23/davis-mosque-hate-crime-islamic-center-bacon-broken-windows/

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

BradC | 24 January 2017 at 11:24 AM
Yeah those numbskulls that put bacon there were wrong. A goat would have been appropriate.

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BradC

24 January 2017

Walt – that sinkhole could be a nightmare. What I did not realize until I googled it is that it is directly above the sewage treatment plant. All that water is going under the treatment plant. Whole trees were getting sucked into that hole. Eventually, I think they are going to jam up and plug whatever hole the water was going into.

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

Tucker Carlson is doing really good. Double the ratings over the Kelly babe.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/315888-foxs-tucker-carlson-nearly-doubling-megyn-kellys-primetime-ratings

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Walt

24 January 2017

Brad. I do believe that sewer plant is just upstream from the action. By about 300 feet.
The workers seem to have the worst of it stabilized. But what damage is still under the street and freeway has yet to be seen. Time will tell.
I looks like the engineers now about the new low spot in the South bound lane. Traffic cones are already there.
I hope “tombstone” engineering isn’t in play.(block traffic after the first three cars fall in)

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fish

24 January 2017

Posted by: BradC | 24 January 2017 at 11:24 AM
Yeah…..what’s the over/under on how soon this changes from being a “Hate Crime” to a Hate Crime Hoax? Like seemingly every single incident over the last couple of years.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

Concerning the Davis Mosque: A woman did it. Go figure. No man I know would waste a perfectly good strip of bacon. That is just so wrong. No doubt an isolated act by a mentally ill person.

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

Looks like the XL Pipeline and the Standing Rock pipeline are a go. Go Trump! Right On!

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

@11:22am.
Why to they always have these events in the cold days of winter?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1013091842158186/?type=3&theater

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Russ

24 January 2017

How Many Social Media Sites are Fake?
Massive networks of fake accounts found on Twitter
Massive collections of fake accounts are lying dormant on Twitter, suggests research.
The largest network ties together more than 350,000 accounts and further work suggests others may be even bigger.
On Twitter, bots are accounts that are run remotely by someone who automates the messages they send and activities they carry out. Some people pay to get bots to follow their account or to dilute chatter about controversial subjects.
The network of 350,000 bots stood out because all the accounts in it shared several subtle characteristics that revealed they were linked. These included:
• tweets coming from places where nobody lives
• messages being posted only from Windows phones
• almost exclusively including quotes from Star Wars novels
Twitter deserved praise for its work on finding and eliminating bots, he added, but it was clear that skilled hackers had found ways to avoid official scrutiny and keep the bots ticking over.
The pair’s most recent work had uncovered a bigger network of bots that seemed to include more than 500,000 accounts.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-38724082
Beyond Twitter, there are multiple application bots for creating a fake Facebook account once a minute.
Facebook account creator bot is a simple to use software for generating Facebook account under a second, it has a super clean interface and uses well-developed Java scripts and injectors to make sure your accounts will get created once you click the register button. It’s fast and simple.
In 2014 Facebook estimates that between 5.5% and 11.2% of accounts are fake. In reality, Facebook does not know how many fake accounts exist.
http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2014/02/03/facebook-estimates-5-5-11-2-accounts-fake/
As of the third quarter of 2016, Facebook had 1.79 billion monthly active users. If 10% are fake, that is 179 million fake accounts.
Bottom line is that social media is being abused. Regardless, that a local former newspaper editor never fails to tell us that our local paper is failing the community and that social media is our future. Is face news from fake social media sites going to be part of our future?

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Gregory

24 January 2017

Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
Emery?
Might Paul be on a search for a new meme because he has no answers posed to him, his prognostications are failing, and he needs a new message?

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Paul Emery

24 January 2017

Gregory?
Gregory?
Gregory?
Gregory?
Gregory?
Gregory?
Gregory?
What are you talking about?

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Paul Emery

24 January 2017

Gregory
do you personally believe that there was massive voter fraud that shifted the popular vote to Hillary? Yes or no

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

Millions of illegals voted in California. Report out soon O am told.

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

It must be a rough day in lefty land PE. Pipelines are back on track, the EPA is handcuffed and gets its social media taken away ahead of the departments downsizing. It will be a good summer for the protester class. 😉

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Paul Emery

24 January 2017

Let me know when it comes out Todd and send me a link
Thanks

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

24 January 2017

RE: 2:07PM
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
800,000 illegals with licenses:
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/28/dmv-licensed-800000-undocumented-immigrants-under-2-year-old-law/
Not sure:
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/podesta-emails-575×431.jpg
Instructions:
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q4/dems-show-illegal-immigrants-which-states-they-can-vote/
From:
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/
“Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That’s a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it’s not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.”
Perhaps the source of Trump’s statement.

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

Scenes 219- None of that matters in PE’s world. He FEELS he is right no matter those pesky facts getting in the way. 😉

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

24 January 2017

Interesting:
“In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens”
From:
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/07/the-threat-of-non-citizen-voting

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

PE- What’s 3% of 128,000,000?

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ScenesFromTheApocalypse

24 January 2017

Interesting publication on pipeline vs. rail safety.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/safety-in-the-transportation-of-oil-and-gas-pipelines-or-rail-rev2.pdf

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George Rebane

24 January 2017

I am sure that one of our liberal readers (maybe even Trump Trasher himself) will connect the dots from Heritage research reported by Scenes 227pm to a plausible number of fraudulent votes cast. The real question to be answered here is why did the illegals take the risk in falsely registering and perjuring themselves if they were not prepared to also cast their votes?

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

The justified, primal fear from the left is that the Trump administration will actually do a data mining project comparing relevant data bases. Purging the voter rolls of illegal aliens and dead people could have a greater impact than any gerrymandering ever did.
Did President Trump set up the left with the comment on the bogus voters and the left just ate the bait with calls for an investigation? The left should be careful what they wish for. 😉

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Gregory

24 January 2017

PE 204
You can pose the question but it isn’t a yes or no answer.
I believe it plausible that voting by persons without the franchise has affected election outcomes in the past and that it is possible it was bad enough to throw the meaningless plurality in the last election towards HRC, especially given Obama’s statement before the November election that sounded to many to be an all clear for illegally registered voters to show up and vote.
It is quite clear that the formerly ruling party has been ignoring any possibility of illegal voting in small or large numbers for a long time. In the immortal words of Sgt. Schultz (portrayed by the late John Banner) “I see nothing! I was not here! I did not even get out of bed this morning!”

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Gregory

24 January 2017

“Concerning the Davis Mosque: A woman did it. Go figure. No man I know would waste a perfectly good strip of bacon.” -Tozer
The funniest thing I read all day, bravo!

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Walt

24 January 2017

Anyone else see this?
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/01/24/michigan-man-whose-drug-sentence-commuted-by-obama-is-shot-dead/
Looks like he was better off in jail.

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Todd Juvinall

24 January 2017

The nasty women as Judd called herself was a eye opener. Now she was outraged that Trump boasted of grabbing pu**y and all the liberals and the press played it over and over again. They said it was disgusting etc. Then these women double down and are even nastier! What a example to the little girls at the march. So instead of taking the chance given at the march podium to talk about goodness, chastity and niceness, they talked about sex! Amazing.

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Walt

24 January 2017

Finally.. Some porn for Paul.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/24/gregg-jarrett-first-and-frivolous-lawsuit-against-president-trump.html

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Walt

24 January 2017

The first 100 HRs has taken a toll.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/24/report-trump-administration-freezes-epa-grant-programs/
Gotta love the panic soothing reassurances.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

What did My Gal’s Democrat Campaign Chairman say about this? Thankyou Wikileaks.
The registrant then signs the form, stating under “penalty of perjury” that the answers are correct. It’s an honor system — but only four states engage in citizenship verification.
And three of those four states are currently entangled in litigation with leftist groups trying to end that verification: Kansas, Alabama, and Georgia.
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2016/10/19/podesta-wikileaks-horror-voter-id-doesnt-stop-alien-voting/

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

Emery, party of one, Emery? 😉

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

4:14 pm
Ah, he is stewing on it. He will let us all know when it comes out….unless you reach up there and pull it out for him. :).

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Paul Emery

24 January 2017

Grerogy
Thanks for your thoughtful response to my question.
If indeed there is a question as to there possibly being millions of illegal votes in recent elections what agency should take the lead in investigating these questions further? Should it be local, State of Federal? Has there been a petition to the Courts to question the results of the last election from any private groups that have those concerns. Seemingly the Republicans should take the lead in this matter since most of the accusations of illegal voting seem to involve illegal immigrants and it is presumed they are voting against Trump or the more conservative candidates.
In short, in your view there seems to be cause for concern. what should the next step be?
Anyone can chime in on this question since it is the logical next step in resolving this matter.

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Bill Tozer

24 January 2017

Well, the first thing to do is to stop the outcry that Republicans are trying to take away one’s right to vote. It’s an attack on poor people! An evil plot to disinfranshice the voter! It’s Jim Crow all over again. March, protest, stop the evil Republicans. Unfair!!
It’s what keeps John Lewis, Nancy, Chuck, Donna Brazile, et al in power, fighting the good fight. Its Brother Ben’s Manifesto. It’s who they are. They are the good guys, the Righties are Evil.
Without political will, it will never happen. In our neck of the woods, Oregon was first with the Motor Voter and has gone to 100% electronic voting.
All efforts to get fraud out of system have been met with lawsuits and demonization. The Left likes it the way it is, wants it to be the way it is, and will fight tooth and nail to keep it the way it is. If you disagree you hate poor people and are a racist.
No solutions to offer that have not been tried with the exceptions of controlling our borders and political will. It is all on Trump’s shoulders since nobody else gives it more than lip service and receives much organized resistance.
Of course Hillary killed it in CA. I have a high degree of confidence that my vote was cancelled out by someone who lawfully was iineligble to vote. Now, at some future date with a real cliffhanger vote for CA Gov or Senator, the recount will be a mess. Better to get ahead of the problem now then try to sort it all out for weeks after after an election. Nevada and Arizona and Georgia and Virginia and……it is not just a West Coast problem, it is the integrity of the ballot box problem.
Do you think for one millisecond Gov. Brown, our one party system, the service unions, or labor unions will try to change a good thing they have going? Soros will be funding more riots in the streets than ever before.

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Don Bessee

24 January 2017

Breitbart Nat. Security editor Dr. Sebastian Gorka has quit FOX news to join the NSC staff. I liked his book on defeating the jihadis.
President Trump is continuing to own the news cycles, how many minutes of sniveling dem. Senators did you see on tv today? The prez. is doing so many things the alt-left can’t figure out what to protest first. Lets hope they protest it all, constantly. That’s less money for them to use in elections. 😉

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Scott Obermuller

24 January 2017

“Seemingly the Republicans should take the lead in this matter since most of the accusations of illegal voting seem to involve illegal immigrants and it is presumed they are voting against Trump or the more conservative candidates.”
Actually, it’s the Dems and the lefties that are constantly screeching about folks feeling they’ve been disenfranchised in their right to vote.
So it’s those folk that should investigate the matter.
But of course, they won’t as they have already admitted that the whole point of allowing illegals to flood in, is to boost the vote on the left.
If the tide of illegals were white conservatives, Gavin Newsom and all Kali Dems would be on the border with machine guns.
The whole deal is a sick joke. The only reason to be against strict voter ID is to facilitate voter fraud.

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