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[Last night the various factions of the local MMJ stakeholders held a townhall gathering in the historic Nevada Theater.  It was moderated by Pascale Fusshoeller of Yubanet.com and broadcast live on KVMR.  Jo Ann and I were in attendance in the packed hall.  The on onstage panel of five made lengthy opening statements after which they answered questions from the audience.  I personally laud the efforts that our MMJ proponents are making to understand the comprehensive MMJ vs RMJ issue and work with the Nevada County Board of Supervisors to arrive at an acceptable ordinance that defines the kind of permissible MMJ grows and the distribution of the product.

One of the panelists was Ms Patricia Smith president of the local chapter of Americans for Safe Access and a longtime contributor to these pages.  She has kindly submitted the following piece covering last nightโ€™s proceedings to inform RR readers of the progress toward the new ordinance.  gjr]

Patricia Smith

The Town Hall meeting at the Nevada Theatre was convened to showcase the differences between the approaches that the Stakeholders have recommended from those that the County have proposed in their Interim Ordinance.  To listen to the entire discussion, log onto KVMR at http://archive.kvmr.org.  Scroll to June 18th, 6:00pm.

All five Stakeholder members of the Advocacy side were on the panel, none of the County's representatives agreed to appear.  I can understand them not wanting to go into the "lion's den," but they should have the courage of their convictions to defend their proposals to the public.

At issue is how the County will respond to the vote of the people.  So far, they are still behaving as if they know what is best for the citizens of Nevada County.  Making decisions for the County is exactly what the Supervisors were elected to do, however, they forfeited that right when, through their own arrogance, they insisted on putting Measure W on the ballot to cement the ban into law. 

They lost.


Two schools of thought were presented last night, the collective vs the commercial model.  Patient advocates like myself and Forrest Hurd, argue for Collectives that are the heart of the MMJ program.  (The County's proposed ordinances bans collectives.)  Collective's grow for individual patients who may live in residential neighborhoods, convalescent homes, apartments, or retirement communities.  In short, anyone who can't grow for themselves.  These transactions are often free or at cost,

Commercial growers on the other hand distribute their products to dispensaries who sell them to patients in the city that cannot grow their own medicine.  They pay taxes, and many are asking the County to issue them permits so they can join in the State MMRSA program.  These transactions are "for-profit" in that the grower is reimbursed for his time, expenses, and salary.

Cal Growers argue that permits are the best tool to address the concerns about cannabis cultivation. Growers are more likely to follow the guidelines when they know their future is secure.  They will invest in a licensed electrician to install proper wiring and panels rather than run an extension cord outside over dry grass to reach the garden area.  But if they feel their operation can be shut down at any minute, they will take the cheapest route possible to make as much money in the shortest amount of time which puts us all in danger.

The growers also point out that their recommendations mitigate environmental dangers by mandating all sites must get inspected by regulatory agencies before they get a permit.  There is no oversight in the County's guidelines.

The County is still coming from a ban/eradicate mentality.  They are imposing gated community standards on the entire county by declaring anything more than one plant an acre is a nuisance.  (20 plants on 20 acres is their maximum allowance.)  Property rights advocates will be appalled at the fine structure they are planning to implement come January.  If they follow Yuba County's lead, a thirty plant garden that doesn't meet their standards could be penalized over $100,000.  Don't pay and they will lien your property.

The County passed an Urgency measure on Jan 12 that banned all outdoor cultivation, but everyone – including people in R-1 zones, could grow 12 plants indoors.  Their new and improved ordinance now bans BOTH indoor and Outdoor cultivation in R-1, R-2, and R-3 zones.  You have to live on a parcel larger than 10 acres to grow on Res-Ag land and 5 acres or more to grow outdoors on AG land!!

People are more restricted from growing now than they were under Measure W.  Does this sound like they have overturned the ban or double-downed despite their losses?

[21jul16 update]  To bring Ms Smith's above commentary to a natural conclusion, I am including the just released NC BoS final draft for the new MMJ ordinance – Download Ncrp MJ Ordinance – July 2016-FINAL (second submission) – and the suggested response of the Nevada County Republican Women Federated to the Board of Supervisors.  The BoS will meet on 26 July next to codify the ordinance.

A group of Yes on W proponents who supported the outdoor marijuana ban, have reviewed the Board of Supervisorโ€™s draft of the urgency medical marijuana ordinance which will  be voted on at Tuesdayโ€™s July 26th Supervisorโ€™s meeting.  As you have seen in the media the medical marijuana proponents have very high expectations for big grows.  Also keep in mind that Measure W (to keep the outdoor ban) passed in Districts 2, 3 and 4 and defeated in Districts 1 and 5.  

Please review these suggested changes or additions.  And please email your supervisor in support of their draft version with these changes.  The supervisorโ€™s draft version sent to the growers is attached for your information.

The changes or additions to the Supervisorโ€™s draft version recommended by the review committee are as follows:

  1. Leave the school setback at 1,000 feet as in the original ordinance instead of reducing it to 600 feet.
  1. Cultivation should not be permitted anywhere except in RA , AG, AE and TPZ zones and should be a maximum of 12 plants. If the purpose is to serve LOCAL medical marijuana needs this number of plants should be sufficient.  Note here:  The defeated Measure S requested a 12 plant maximum.  There is a 6 plant maximum for medical marijuana in Colorado.
  1. All grower group proposals would trigger CEQA (California Environmental Quality   

     Act) and in some circumstances a 20 plant maximum could also trigger CEQA.

     (environmental reviews for noise, air quality, traffic, etc.).

  1. A permit fee of $5,000 is recommended per patient with a doctorโ€™s recommendation

     (Fresno County charges $5,000.)  The fee system should cover 100% of all costs

     associated with this program with no burdens on taxpayers.

  1. Immediate abatement for grows with no permits
  1. Expedited abatement for out of compliance grows with permits.
  1. Growers without permits and with gross violations would trigger a 5 year restriction   

     on obtaining permits.

  1. Fines and penalties should be established at $1,000 per plant per day to begin

     immediately and accumulate if a hearing is allowed.

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88 responses to “Medical Marijuana Advocates hold Townhall (updated 21jul16)”

  1. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    DB… to show that these regulations are in fact a de-facto ban.

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  2. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    “Our properties within our own territories [should not] be taxed or regulated by any power on earth but our own.โ€
    โ€• Thomas Jefferson “Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.โ€
    โ€• John Adams

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Totally off topic.
    When was 12 or 13 with hair hanging over the top of my ears and wearing a wide belt, some dude in a passing car called me me a hippy. Turn the clock 50 years and I got short hair again and some punks in GV outside a convience store called mean old hippy. Whatz up with that? I must look like a stoner I reckon.
    Most of my hippy friends are dead. Some went straight, some disappeared, and some moved to some place called Nevada County, California…wherever that is.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LRpj9mCl0qg

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Just wondering because I got sent a screen shot where a nearly identical post was put up elsewhere by another name. You say it says there is 2 acre growing- ‘even though the ordinance seems to permit grows on these parcels’. Not so.

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  5. Patricia Smith Avatar

    Gregory, July 22 9:45 Yes, the vote does mean that Measure W failed. Of course, people voted for different reasons, but you don’t get to dissect what parts you were for or against. You didn’t hear us trying to spin the loss of Measure S and we surely wouldn’t be having this conversation had W won. In fact, the loss of S is what triggered the Board to promote the ban.
    I think the sweet spot is between Measure S and W which is exactly what ASA has recommended. Measure S had an upper limit of 99 plants, we are recommending an upper limit of 50 plants on 20 acres.
    This is what Measure W said:
    โ€œShall an ordinance be adopted which (a) bans outdoor cultivation, commercial cultivation and other commercial cannabis activities, (b) limits indoor cultivation to 12 plants per parcel in residential and rural areas, (c) prohibits indoor marijuana cultivation in un-permitted structures and areas used or intended for human occupancy, and (d) allows marijuana cultivation only by qualified patients and primary caregivers and only for medicinal purposes?โ€
    This is the BoS Resolution:
    “If the Ballot Measure is not approved by a majority of the registered voters voting on the measure, it is the intent of the Board of Supervisors to reject the Ballot Measure, to repeal the ban on outdoor cultivation of marijuana and to consider and adopt other outdoor regulations at the next available meeting after the results of the election have been certified by the County Elections Official.”

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  6. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    According to what Patty has posted, commercial cultivation and commercial cannabis activities should now be legal, correct?
    Why is it not?

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  7. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    And wouldn`t these requirements possibly exacerbate clear cutting of land, to legally abide by these set backs? Are our elected officials trying to make this poorly governed community even less attractive to everyone involved?
    And get ready for the law suits. This is going to make the “Ridge Line Debacle” expenses look like chicken feed.
    The average citizen is gonna take it in the shorts on this one…

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    For the record, the NC Republican Women Federated admitted their error in reporting Measure W voted counts and sent a correction to their members. I did not post it here because is was already corrected by a vigilant RR reader.

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  9. BradC Avatar
    BradC

    ArtherW – The county official know that their regulations are intended to make it illegal to grow just about anywhere in rural Nevada County but want to give a (false) impression of working with MMJ patients and stakeholders. This is just another attempted snow job by the Supes and Sheriff (unless no one in the county understands elementary math or geometry).
    I may have missed it but I only saw regulations addressing 20 acres and up. Does the county not see a difference between a 20 acre ranch and a 200, or 2,000 acre ranch?
    What a hoot!

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Patty, No on W did not even guarantee you could have a small seat near the table, so be grateful you even got their ear. :). Like, No on W did not mean your wish list is to enacted tomorrow. Take it slow, even piecemeal over 2 years, not just weeks. Easy does it, but do it……and do it easy. But nooo. Just like my daughters. Everything is so important and gotta hurry and they drive off in causing a dirt cloud
    and forget their handhelds or purses…steady pressure…your patients will make it to next year…we have a giving community…
    Keep hashing it out and we will get it right. Maybe Paul Emery was right all along, gasp! Double gasp!! The more I think about it, let’s have our little grows with our boutique flavor from our boutique local hills. The Commerical Boys will crush any uniqueness that might give out local patients here the edge in a competitive market. Niche market stuff looking down the road. Screw the Commerical grows, Patty. I am counting on you to build the wall and keep Commericals growers the fuck out of here. Yes, I said keep them the hell out of here. Hey, we have kept 7-11s out of here, so it can be done.te Thank you.
    Art: sorry, but only scanned your comments. Hey, you said wineries? WTF are you thinking, man? What’s next, you going to say oak woodlands or pasture land???
    18 acres ain’t enough if you are dumb enough to buy land that has been opened up like that. You need a privacy screen from the road. Plant a hedge…I dunno, something native like poison oak or go exotic and plant friggin bamboo or pampas (yuck) grass. Look, “no can see from road” is your setback, wherever that may be. You already said your neighbors will see nothing, say nothing, right? No sweat. Problem fixed.
    No complaint from your hood, no cops roll. They roll on every complaint/call, so just randomly drop of a fine bottom of wine or two at your neighbor’s doorstep with a little note saying “Thinking of you, Art.” Unless you are a perv. If so, then the note on your neighbor’s’ doorstep may not be the best of advice.

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Art, you said all you wanted was 6 plants and that is all you ever wanted, right? Just double checking. Now, it six, not six maybe 12 or 14, right?
    And I am sure you have a gorgeous piece of property…did it come with a hacienda or just a ranch house? Better end it with this: :). Later. Your fellow pilgrim, Bill

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  12. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    Yeah, Bill. No calls from my neighbors equals no cops at my place? This is the same sheriff that has made 80% of the “complaints” after his joy rides in his brothers helicopters, isnt it?
    Great way to enrich the family and keep those hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants from the Anslingers rolling in. Gotta keep those deputies working, right?
    Gotta keep those jails full, keeping all those needed deputies employed, guarding those vicious, dangerous MMJ growers, right? Employed draining the counties coffers, that is.
    What do you think would happen to the sheriff
    s budget if MMJ was decriminalized??? Do you think he wants a reduction in his budget? I don`t think so…

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Small possession of weed was decriminalized years ago ‘arther’ but thanks for showing your true level of disinformation.

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  14. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    Don, If it is decriminalized, and this is solely a land use issue, why is the Sheriff’s office doing inspections for the planning Dept.? My point is it feels criminalized when you get a Sheriff’s letter on your gate saying call us, let us in right away or we will get a warrant.(warrant=land use violation???)If you don’t do as we say we could take your house.
    I ask that any responses please limit your comments to Medical MJ.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    GailK 1028am – I believe that under the current ordinance the sheriff is the enforcing officer. In the past Planning Dept has refused to inspect because of security concerns, and has therefore deferred such enforcement to the armed Sheriff’s Dept.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Bill Tozer
    Art, look who the cops are busting so far. Think the smallest one I have read about in the Union was 600 plants, and maybe a small 120 garden related to a bigger bust. If you are a good guy but have toothless wonders around that are crankster gangsters, have warrants, under search and seizure conditions of probation, and are just all around dirt bags, then sure, they will shut down 58 plants……but LE did not simply drive around looking for it and the helicopters are looking for the big grows around 850 plants in size. An occasion 200 plant garden will get spotted, but may be put on next year’s list cause they are too busy this year. And, with these busts I mentioned, they usually leave six plants alone if there is a posted script…
    A). If LE or passerbys can see your crop just be tottling down the road, then you are the stupid one. I have seen small gardens from some side streets closer to town and they never get popped….and that is just me heading to the dump or visiting a former co-worker. And I am not even rubber necking looking for it, same as driving around and not looking for deer bedding down back in brush, but on occasion spy some deer back in there as I am passing by an area, but generally keeping my eyes on the road. Some things just catch your eye and it is a fair assumption to say those little 12 plant gardens are “kinda almost” in compliance or small timers cause the small gardens I see remain, year after year…….everywhere, scores and scores of them out there.
    B). LE needs a reasonable cause to enter your little piece of paradise. If a LE is on patrol checking things out on his/her beat in his patrol vehicle, they are not going to be driving down your driveway, getting out, and walking around the house and see what you got in the back 40. Ain’t going to happen, unless they are searching for a naked escapee from the Nut House running amok in your neck of the woods…and even in that scenario, they aren’t coming back to bust your 6 plants…ever. And even if they do, they will tell ya to move that one over there closer to the other 5…have a good day, sir.
    C). None of by beeswax, but I am seriously seriously doubting we are taking about 6 plants here. I am beginning to develop a trust issue with you. If it is any consolation, I have a big ole Don’t Tread On Me flag in the front at the road, and am a strong believer in private property rights and all that Patriot stuff…coupled with a moral compass that tells me to be a good neighbor….love my brother and all that stuff. Only drawback is I do not fully appreciate snakes, but what would a good Don’t Tread on ME flag be without a snake on it?? Just have to live with it. 6 plants????? Don’t even sweat it. Not even worth LE’s time or even the gas.
    6 plants? You ain’t pulling my leg are you?
    Heck, I have never heard of someone riding in the back seat of the Pole-Lease car for 8 plants….ever, ever. Ok, maybe 20 years ago.
    Yo Patty, have you ever heard of handcuffs going on someone for 11 plants…barring warrants, child endangerment, narcotics, stolen property involved. Yo Gail, be a dear and talk to Art, will ya. He is a concerned patient and the state law was written with him in mind.

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  17. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    “A judge issues a search warrant to authorize law enforcement officers to search a particular location and seize specific items. To obtain a search warrant, police must show probable cause that a crime was committed and that items connected to the crime are likely to be found in the place specified by the warrant.” https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=search%20warrant%20exceptions
    Crime!
    “The police don’t need a warrant if they have a reasonable fear that their safety, or that of the public, is in imminent danger. The plain view doctrine. A police officer does not need to obtain a warrant to search and seize contraband that is “in plain view.”
    Contraband!
    Armed police for land use issue is equal protection under the law?
    Arther could be telling the truth,why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
    Culture War!
    Really, nothing will ever get done with this Divide and Conquer working out so well.

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  18. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    Sorry,I don’t mean to rile everyone up.

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    As cal growers said, you guys will get no real traction until you separate yourself from the criminals. The lack of a system to prevent duplicate recommendations gives everyone doubt about caregiver grows. Not every pot grower is some altruistic caregiver or patient.
    Nothing has changed the fact that we are surrounded by outdoor ban areas and few areas in the State are interested in commercial pot.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    what does losing 60-40 on Measure W mean to you about the direction the voters of Nevada County want to go on this matter?

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  21. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    “We” will get no traction until “you” separate patients from criminals in “your” minds. As I said divide and conquer.
    Not every pot grower is a lying, script duplicating,criminal.
    I don’t have any interaction with criminals, I am not together with them, so how do I separate from them?
    It is a very blunt instrument that groups criminals and patients all together.
    All of us should be concerned about this issue,
    Seems very similar to the firearms issue. Do “you” firearms using law aiding citizens want to be punished for the acts of irresponsible criminals?
    Nothing has changed the fact that we are a county that 60 to 40 rejected the ban (outdoor and commercial)and will be the leaders regionally.
    If we don’t respect each other, how are we going to do this correctly?

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  22. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    that shoud have read:law abiding

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Very True Gail
    It needs to be emphasized that the resounding No on W included a No vote on a ban of Commercial growing. That was completely ignored by the BOS in their urgency replacement measure to be presented tomorrow,
    The Demographics in Nevada County are shifting rapidly and for sure in the next election cycle that will be reflected in the election of Supervisors that will recognize the economic value of commercial cultivation in accordance with State Laws and regulations.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, fuck the big boy Commerical grows. They will dilute and trash you mom and pop boutique niche market scenario. Keep it small and keep it cool. The big boys are here already. Planes flying in from Littly Italy in NY and Jersey with Guido as the bag man. Clean, great operations with big ole concrete loading docks for Rare Earth and the water trucks to drive in and drive out. You can eat off the floor. Reminds me of when I did Commerical tile work for Max Fosters dairy plants back in the day.
    Ok, to be fair, if the Big Boys are here, just close the doors behind them. Maybe your idea of a Commerical grow and mind are different. Probably so.
    And no frigging Hmong Mafia like that got busted in my area. No setbacks, growing on both sides of the road up to the road!! In broad daylight of all things. And all those buck tooth yahoos setting up security cameras and running electrical and water cables right across the road. I thought I left those buck tooth gangsters back in SE Asia…yep, I am a bigot when it comes to what comes out of the Central Valley… on occasion. I did not turn them in…I don’t want them coming after me at night….they outnumber me 20 to one…..but I am glad somebody did.
    Ok, Paul, rant is over. I am actually warming up to the idea of smaller grows (24-40 plants) on 10 acres if the zoning is right. That would help the local economy. But, to repeat from way up on the start on this thread: No on W meant to me Do Not Set the current ordinance in stone. Nothing less, nothing more. 60/40 or 90/10 means nothing. Absolutely nothing. Do not set the ordaniance is stone and let the BOS work it out on their timetable, not YOURS. To repeat yet again, Paul: read the black on the letters, not the white between the letters on the page. Fuck them big boys are we are cool. Capice?

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  25. Marvin Postlewait Avatar
    Marvin Postlewait

    “joy rides in his brother`s helicopters” — Does any one know who owns the helicopter service that the sheriff has the contract with? Is it really his brother?

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Marvin, I haven’t a clue. But, no matter where I have lived on this planet, I have already heard that same “His brother’s twirly bird” or the sheriff’s son is the biggest pusher around and the cops protect him” or the growers paid them off, or the mayor’s wife got a special consideration on some bid……heard than one 147 times at least, covering many locales, many states, and many states of mind….talking about grows or nudie bars or…fill in the blanks. Oh, don’t forget the corruption/favoritism/relative of LE angle when a tow truck contract is granted or building a storage shed in the county yard.
    Proof? Well, I am sure it has happened. Heck, my Dad found corruption in the contact when the first one or two helicopters were being purchased in my hometown area back in the day….and he stood his ground and brought down the Chief of Police, the mayor, and two council members. So, ya, it might be true….just like my dad the detective was given orders to go out and wack poor black kids eating Skittles on the street corner.
    Proof? If you believe its true without documentation, then no use arguing with stupid.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Here is another one every LE has heard thousands of times: “Why are you stopping me? Why are you hassassing me for a taillight out? Why don’t do go catch robbers and rapists and murderers and leave me alone and quit harassing me. I am calling my lawyer on you and suiting the shit out of the Department!”
    . Cops don’t write the stupid laws, dear lady who is screaming at the top of her lungs for being pulled over like she is being singled out. Yeah, she will report you and she has friends in high places and you just lost your job, copper! Cops just enforce laws, even stupid motor vehicle violations…even if your family are the ones who brought dirt into this area generations ago.
    Off topic. I would say “Off topic, sorry” but that would be a lie.

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  28. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    Bill, Id like to respond. No one can see my garden. It is far from prying eyes, unless viewed from above. No one has ever complained about my garden. I have grown only 12 plants (6 for me, 6 for my wife) for decades. We use our own homemade tinctures and we dont smoke cannabis nor tobacco.
    I suppose I have to take your word concerning the exclusion of people like myself and other peaceful folk from the wrath of the sheriff`s office, but with this fine structure he has advocated… and with the lure of asset forfeiture… I hear Yuba County has already levied fines beyond 3 million with this same fine structure.

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  29. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    “Excessive bail shall not be required,
    nor excessive fines imposed,
    nor cruel, and unusual punishments inflicted.” Bill of Rights
    Arther: They have google earth.

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  30. Arther Williams Avatar
    Arther Williams

    And they`are all drunks, wife beating moon shiners hooked on Hill Billy heroin attempting to deprive every land owner of their property rights… does the “Ridge Line” fiasco ensure your trust in the haphazard disbursement of your hard earned tax dollars?
    Please look at the amount of time and money your elected officials have expended to bamboozle the populace. Shameful. It could have gone much better. Ask anyone from the press…

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  31. George Rebane Avatar
  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Where does the money go from the fines? Does the Sheriffs Dept get a cut? anyone have any ideas?

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Maybe I have come off as too harsh and brash on you all. I forgot to whom I was addressing. Sorry. I need to be more gentle. I apologize. In a loosely related story from San Bernardino:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/lil-wayne-storms-offstage-cannabis-191225636.html

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  34. Gail Kraus Avatar
    Gail Kraus

    Could that work with Trump?

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Ask anyone from the press… Thanks for the giggles. LOL ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  36. A Patriot Avatar
    A Patriot

    FYI A comparative analysis of the proposals of the five groups tasked with compromising on an interim ordinance are linked here. Shortly thereafter, a unified recommendation from 4 of the five groups represented was presented to the Supervisors for consideration and integration into the final ordinance being discussed today. http://yubanet.com/m/draftinterimordinanceproposal/

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  37. George Rebane Avatar

    APatriot 1149am – Mr Patriot, your comment really belongs under ‘Medical Marijuana Ordinance – BoS Meeting’. I have reposted it there.

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  38. A Patriot Avatar
    A Patriot

    My thanks. I posted it as an update after perusing the comparison with old and previously rejected past ordinances and ballot measures earlier in these posts.

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