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233 responses to “Sandbox – 27jun16”
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Oh Rusty, Rusty, Rusty
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvk7faxsxkQLikeLike
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Posted by: Jon Dozer | 28 June 2016 at 04:31 PM
Well like her or hate her she’s a woman whose made a very nice living making 600 lb. leftys itch.
Sometimes that’s enough.LikeLike
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Jeff’s attention span is as short as ever.
I’m trying to remember… what was the name of that sock puppet that used to have her magazine subscriptions sent to Jeff’s corporate orifice?LikeLike
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re Fish at 3:09 – That stat caught my eye. Anyone who actually checked the data chart would notice a slightly different angle. These are ‘official’ numbers that don’t take into account the flood of illegals whose income is probably quite a bit shy of the vaunted $50K annual income level.
The main thing to notice are the number of people, not their income. About a quarter of a million out (net) and not even a tenth of that in.
I’m sure a fair number of retired from the work force with SS-only types are certainly going to flee.
Our once-great golden state still leads the way in those on welfare and it’s getting worse. Nevada County is a wonderful place to be if you have to live in Cali.
Far, far away from the pesky realities of what is actually going on for the vast majority of Californians.
Hey – all of you lefties – let me know when the choo choo train is ready. Ho ho ho.LikeLike
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Posted by: Gregory | 28 June 2016 at 04:38 PM
Gloria Zane?LikeLike
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Gloria Zane was the sock I was trying to remember. Here’s a blast from the past…
“As for the publisher’s mission, I find this highly hypocritical since theunion.com’s commenters are people named “redneck farmer,” “dirtmover” and the like, going around flaming people routinely. Unlike the bar at Cheer’s “nobody knows your name.” It’s a joke.
I also was most disturbed when the other “Jeff,” commenting on this blog, alleged that I was Gloria Zane. No, I sign my name on any blog or website. Always have, always will.”
LOL!
https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2010/04/08/is-coffee-with-the-publisher-the-upside-of-signing-your-name/LikeLike
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Gawd, I miss the Bernie Bros.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YXW-8o5JRV4
Gawd, I miss TV
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=513dIWEmuQE
Gawd, I don’t miss being the town drunk. Rusty Zipper, as hard as he may try, is still an amateur.. He will be a barrel of yucks tonight. Yo Rusty Z, make sure the little lady changes the plastic mattress liner before it gets dark. Your bed wetting gets sooo old and is hard on the little lady. Is your new washer almost on the fritz again?? Already?Time to get another one any day now. Talk about planned obsolescence. Just like My Gal and those great Frisco values.
Just trying to help ya, my lonesome friend. Worrying about ya. Hope you make it through the week. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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Damn Gregory! I remember that letter to the Editor. That’s when the LIBS kept losing the argument and went on a deleting spree. (They figured out that three “flags” triggered it.)
She didn’t like the fact I pointed out how LIB ideas backfired, and I used terms like ” That worked out well,, didn’t it?” That really pissed her off.LikeLike
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Timing is everything! Bernie speaks. He ain’t dead yet. Bern it down, Bernie. Tank up on that homemade chili that is awaiting you and your delegates. Is Hillary going to let you in to her convention? Eat more beans. Do it for the little people. Bernie Beans are us!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/opinion/campaign-stops/bernie-sanders-democrats-need-to-wake-up.html?_r=0
Funny, did Bernie forget to say who has been at the helm for the last 7.5 years? Did he forget to mention Hillary’s economic policy is “Stay the Course”? Hmmm. That sounds familiar. Gosh, first she steals $200,000 of stuff from the White House, now she ripped off H. W. Bush’s slogan.
Bernie, this calls for a triple portion of beans. Blow the roof off!
In a related story, a judge in Philly has ruled unconstitutional the 3.3 square mile “no peaceful march” zone around the city center. They only have issued a mere ONE permit for a peaceful march within the Keep The Berners Out No Speech Zone. Something about free speech. Poor Brother Ben. And the Berners. All dressed up and no where to go, Despite the court order, no new permits will be issued this month. Judge told them to work it out….city told them to come back next month.
Delay, delay, delay. Stonewall, deny, delay…it will go away. Hmm, sounds kinda familiar.
I just love how Democrats think that tolerance and freedom cannot co-exist. They demand one and prohibit the other.
Yo Pickled Zipper, can you peer over your sticky keyboard long enough to ‘splain if to us little normal folks? Appreciate it man. Cool beans if you would.LikeLike
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Steve Enos?!
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Barry, off topic, but the park is looking great! Nice. I never stop by there anymore, but finally did. Nice disc golf course. I used to toss the freebie around in the very first freebie golf course (the name back then) in the USA while working over at JPL. We use to call JPL “white collar welfare” back when Reagon righted the ship back in the day. Not only the course, but the entire park. That walkway/bike bath is nice as well. Dog park looks great with it parked out. Good job. Excellent job.
Oh, when I was there, the millennials were very excited. They thought they found some Bigfoot imprints in the soil. I checked it out before they wasted money on plaster of paris. Yep, big deep imprints of a beast. Upon further investigation, I knew it was not a Bigfoot who left its marks. The length was too short and you could tell the arches of the creature’s feet where broken. Nah, not Bigfoot. Had the enough weight, but it was human. Bigfoots have strong foot aches. I told the kids it probably was that blogger who took his offspring to toss the disc around, only to have the whole experience ruint by the sight of Tea Party types who reserved and rented the pavilion.
Oh, I digressed.
Blame it on Rio.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazil-rio-police-welcome-to-hell-tourists-olympics-a7108091.html
That is why I proudly with each breath I voice “USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.” For God and Country, forever the Corps. From the balls of Montezuma to the shores of Benghazi. God, I love my country. USA, USA, USA, USA!!LikeLike
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Some broadband politics:
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton plans to bring high-speed broadband cable internet to every American household by 2020, according to a leaked campaign document.
Clinton’s “technology and innovation” agenda also involves re-examining encryption and strongly supporting the Federal Communication Commission’s recent decision on net neutrality, according to a leaked 14-page memo obtained by Politico on Monday . The agenda reportedly wades into important issues within Silicon Valley, such as surveillance, patent reform and treatment of Uber drivers.
She does not have any idea about the challenges of bringing fiber to homes in the the Sierra Nevada, Cascades and Rockies. Failing this undestanding her claims are just political promisses that cannot be filled.
More here: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/clintons-leaked-tech-plan-supports-broadband-for-all/ar-AAhHvV8?ocid=ansmsnnews11LikeLike
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Russ. Fiber to the door?? Heck, Verizon overbuilt above Comcast and tried it in Roseville. They lost their gluteus maximus, a very large muscle.. Will never recoup the capital outlay…well, maybe in 50 years, when it will be long outdated. Fiber to the door outside urban jungle rat cage density??
I know fiber to the door is coming, but not here.
Isn’t Grandma Hillary the one who even IT gurus cannot teach her to use a tower? Ain’t going to happen. Isn’t she the one who talked about wiping the server with a little folded sheet? Isn’t she the one who said she does know much about “electricial” stuff. Isn’t she the one who said she cannot handle two email addresses at once, but claims she is qualified for the multitasking job of POTUS? Isn’t she…..LikeLike
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Greg, you do remain a very stupid man in so many ways 🙂 But its OK, really. We all have our weaknesses.
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His ego won’t allow him the “aw shucks you caught me” admission but you remained steadfast (and indeed convinced me) that “jon dozer” was our own little jeffy.
Kudos Greg!LikeLike
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Here is a millennial gals comment about America from the Nevada County Vents thread I was engaged on. In response to my points of our country;s greatness, she said this,
“All of us are “illegals”, we stole the country. And america is not the “greatest country on earth with the most freedom of the individual”. Far from it. Several of the Scandinavian countries and a few in the EU have far greater standards of living and freedoms if you define freedom as the ability to live with security, dignity, good health, available jobs and happiness. That is just the “bogus” fairy tale we have all been fed since birth. But, If you think an actual chart based on real data can be “de-bunked” by others than there really is no point for further discussion.”
So how could someone here think that?LikeLike
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Greg is still smarter than you “jon”. What’s your excuse?
Gotta love Barry.. Ol’ Steve Enos. What a NYMBY SOB he was. No homeless help in HIS neighbourhood, But just fine in someone else’s. Then there was his down right lies about IMM. On top of promises of “high tech” jobs that were sure to relocate here if the mine didn’t open. Someone needs to ask that prick just where the hell are they after all this time. Dope growing is a far cry from respectable employment.LikeLike
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@7:24 pm
Spoken by the callous purple slob who said this Benghazi thang was nothing but bureaucratic analysis paralysis. Nothing to see here, Move On.
Hmm. Hillary said the same thing today.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/28/clinton-claims-house-benghazi-report-found-nothing-says-time-to-move-on.html?intcmp=hpbt3
Two peas in the same pod. Hillary sleeping, Obama missing.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/28/obama-did-not-ask-intel-brief-day-after-benghazi-attack
Hillary sleeping, Obama missing, and you shrug your shoulders. Mr. Rusty Zipper, you sir, are a puck bucket who cheers our Ambassador being dragged through the streets with savages butt fucking his burn body. He was born in Grass Valley, no less. All for looking good politically? For political games?
Hillary napping, President heading for a fundraiser 59 days before the election, and a puke bucket like you saying “nothing to see here?”
You are one ….ah, you obliviously have never been cut open with the fillet knife or shot to talk the way you do. I hope you live to be 150 years old..with 3 times the lard. Wrapping yourself in the CA flag while spitting on the grave of Ambassador Stevens.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3vrPY15CYqc
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.LikeLike
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LOL @ Walt.
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That’s right Tozer, there WAS nothing to the Benghazi incident as regards to Secretary Clinton. Correct. What will you do in early November after she is elected? OMG…do you take blood pressure meds?
And one more correction Billy, make that BLUE for me, not purple. BLUE. And please address any other purple topics to the appropriate person.
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Todd, 7:42, if you saw Mr. Michael Moore’s awesome new film, you would understand what your friend on the other board is referring to. Please see it. He’s a good friend of KVMR and Nevada County.
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What will you do in early November after she is elected? OMG…do you take blood pressure meds?
If I know our Bill, he and I will hoist our glasses to our new president and look forward to 4 years of Clintonesque malfeasance, graft, and low rent shenanigans. You know….democrat stuff.LikeLike
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Posted by: Jon Dozer | 28 June 2016 at 08:10 PM
Now admit it……you just like him because you guys can share from each other’s wardrobe!LikeLike
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Laugh all ya’ like uh,,”jon”.. That’s history chiseled in stone.
Man up and tell us just which A-hole of the county you are. What’s wrong? don’t have the balls?
Yup Steve E. sure “F”ed up Grass Valley, and cost many a person big bucks. It would be no surprise that Steve E. would do his damnedest to stay deep under a rock, and gutter snipe with a fictitious name as nondescript as “jon”.
That guy’s name is MUD these days.LikeLike
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Ever notice “jon” never really engages? He is your standard troll. Just comes in, drops his bombs and leaves. Never gets angry, never has anything nice to say. Never posts on other venues. Just a standard run of the mill troll. But he does provide some comic relief.
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I’m beginning to think Barry pegged his happy ass. The “jon” has rally voiced his dislike of gold mining. Right up there with Enos. The “one in the same” also subscribe to “the end justifies the means.” Lies and horse shit are just fine if the desired outcome is achieved.
Enos loved his power trip. He cost a certain commercial project BIG bucks, and almost a year in delays. All on his whim.LikeLike
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Walt= LOL.
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Todd, credit where credit is due. You’re actually way more astute than Gregory, Tozer, fish or Walt in many ways. Why would I be angry when I’m happy with the political, social and cultural direction of this nation? I actually do share several of your economic concerns for obvious reasons. What I don’t share is the black/white, Good vs. Evil, Bad Liberal/Good Conservative thing. I would say that’s the main theme. Simply trying to show you boys the world is bit more nuanced than you or your parents may have imagined (understatement of the year perhaps?).:)
Have a wonderful evening.LikeLike
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That’s the best you got? Spinless….. Yup If I was Enos I would lay low too.
I see your friends in bandanas caused a bunch of trouble down in Sac. They are cowards too.LikeLike
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OK, an important topic worthy of comment from conservatives. I asked about this kind of paradox last weekend but only got angry shouts in response. How to square mainstream conservatism that has emerged in the last 40 years with Donald Trump’s very, very isolationist and dangerous economic ideas.. ie, Paul Ryan vs. Donald Trump, 180 degrees opposed on some of most basic of conservative principles- trade, immigration, govt. infrastructure spending, etc. Dr. Rebane, I would particularly love to see your comments on this topic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/upshot/donald-trumps-economic-nostalgia.htmlLikeLike
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Hay Walt, you know…you’re right..OMG, Enos was the ONLY guy in the entire county who has been opposed to underground mining. The only person out of the 100K in the county! And to think people have called you out as lacking analytical skills. You got me Walt :)…and now I feel terrible for myself, but real happy to tell you that you were the one to figure it out. Hay, credit where credit is due. Let it never be said that our Walt is on the second tier of RR posters!
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Keep believing LIB news. They have been wrong on Trump on SO many levels.
Why the hell answer you idiotic questions? You don’t answer any. Troll on coward, troll on.LikeLike
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Todd, I took a real interest with the fact that the latest big fire in the Foresthill area tonight is threatening a place called TODD VALLEY, Placer County. Was that valley named after you by any chance? (Walt actually asked me to ask you, he’s a bit shy)..
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Walt…um (how to I brake it to you)…you were not invited to comment on my question of 9:39PM.
I would like a serious, analytical conservative to discuss that subject.
But thanks for responding anyway. I’ll try to start a BBQ related topic sometime, and would love your input.LikeLike
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You guys either touched one of the last working nerves in the ‘jon’ or he is tweaking tonight! Gotta love it when he starts trying to assume moderating authority as in its 955p. LOL 😉
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Yep, as Secretary of State, Clinton napped while Quadffi’s men came to our rescue. You do know what those “moderates” we were supporting in Libya did, don’t you? They grabbed Quaddfi and literally butt fucked him to death. But, it was his men who came and pulled out the body of Christoper Stevens who was still breathing when he, too, got butt fucked to death. Of course before Hillary retired for the evening without the balls to make a decision on the spot and talking to all her advisors about what she should do, she picked up the tele and called Chelsea and had a nice chat and then went beddy bye. What, did she expect them to make it through the night after being surrounded, out gunned, out manned after already going through 8 hours of a firefight?? You obliviously never been in a real firefight with real bullets and a real enemy trying to kill you, or else you would be cognizant of the fact that 3 minutes of battle seems like 2 hours. But, the only thing you really, really, really care about is nothing stuck to her. Nothing.
We on this side of the aisle call that deriliction of duty. She handpicked Stevens, sent him on a dangerous mission to carry out her wishes, and walked away. She washed her hands of the whole matter. That is your candidate. Her name is Hillary Rodclam Clinton. And we find out yesterday, that she paid Bloomenthal 200k out of her own pocket (or the charity’s money) for his advice and his plan to go into Libya solely and Exclusively so she would look good. It was all about her. And yes, Bloomenthal would line his pockets with lucrative contracts. This is After your man, your President, Mr. Obama, himself personally intervened to bar Sydney Bloomenthal from having anything to do with the Obama Administration.
Rusty Zipper, I think the only thing you care about in the depths of your soul is having absolutely no facts or evidence, no nothing or anything stick to your candidate. That is why I love my country but fear my government. Yes, I am scared shitless of my government, and for good reason. Enough.
Nobody has ever taken down the Clintons. Nothing ever sticks to them. They are the most impregnable foe anyone could possibly face. Oh sure, the voters of Arkansas kicked Bubba out of office afterhis first term. Hillary was piping hot. Why? Because now “she would have to move into a tiny house”. Bill came back and never lost again. Hillary never lived in a tiny house again and the rest is history. Not one true conservative, not one true Republican in the entire nation can take Hillary and the Clinton apparatus down whose payroll spreads out to darn near every county and every precinct in the nation. No one from the Right has a snowball’s chance in hell of beating their dirt machine.
But, there is a bull in the China Shop, an untamed savage that can fight fire with fire. He is unpredictable and ain’t afraid of the Clintons. And boy is he pissed.
So tonight, I did something I have never done before. I wiped out the credit card and sent Trump the max under law. Plus, I bought a nice red hat. Figured he has our Nation’s back, I have his back. Imagine sending a billionaire some money! I wish I could send more. Why?
Why? Why? Why? Why did I do what I did for the first time in my life??
Because Trump would have never ever left Our Fellow Countrymen to die like that. He would have scrambled jets, ships, helicopters in 5 seconds instead of Never. That’s why. Something you are incapable of understanding because you never been in a foxhole and you never stacked Gooks with their throats slit to use as sandbags so your buddies can make it through the night with ammo running out. You never sacrificed nothing for nobody except yourself. That’s ok. We come from different places.
Besides, my country was looking for only a few good men. It’s still my country and its still your country. Men and women died to make it our country, but they did not die so women could have free menstrual clothes.. That is where Hillary and I part ways.
May the best team win. I do not ever ever ever expect you to play fair or by the rules. I expect you to continue to fight dirty. That’s all you and your side knows how to do. Like the Islamics, it’s ok to lie to the enemy. Mohammed said so. All is fair in love and war. We will see who is still standing at the end of the day.
At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter who is right or who is wrong. The only thing that matters is who is still standing. Go ahead and have your fun. Rest up. You will need your strength later. Besides, you are scared shitless of Trump. I ain’t worried in the least about Hillary. Trump can go play golf right now while everybody is hand wringing and fretting and getting all contorted. I know he will bring it all in on time and under budget. Sweet dreams. Relax. You win. Take that shield and toss it aside. Go party, let your hair down, and dance the happy dance that Hillary dodged another bullet .and go do the happy dance on your Ambassador Steven’s grave for me. I have other plans.
In time, the chickens will come home to roost. And I would hate to be in your side’s shoes when they do. See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya.
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https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/868064033327635/?type=3&theater
At least her daughter made it unscathed.
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Oh Stevie’s little boy toy. Sure, let’s meet @ 3 Forks soon, if Stevie don’t get jealous. All this talk makes me want to have to toss back a few with you, then corn hole you out of your ever loving mind. We will play Arabs and Cowpokes.. It’s what you want and I have had worse. We will walk away as good friends. Well, I will be walking and you will be able to walk a few hours later. Drinks on me! What do you want on your pizza, little buddy?
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Conservative David Brooks writing today- very apropos..
“The less-educated masses have a different conception of the future, a vision that is more closed, collective, protective and segmented
Their pain is indivisible: economic stress, community breakdown, ethnic bigotry and a loss of social status and self-worth. When people feel their world is vanishing, they are easy prey for fact-free magical thinking and demagogues who blame immigrants.”LikeLike
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Jeff is blowing smoke here ’cause he’s talking to himself on his own blog. Dead as a doornail except for his claim that his sock is running circles around the rubes.
Golly, remember the good old days before you chased away anyone who could best you in an argument? Back when the only sock puppet you had was Gloria Zane? LOL Neither Hillary or the Donald have actually been nominated (who knows, they might ditch Hill for Smiling Joe and what’s her name from the Stockholm branch of the Powhattan tribe, and the Donald might get chucked for some designated pinch hitter). But in any case, if you were so sure Hillary had it in the bag you wouldn’t be wasting everyone’s time with your rude bullying playground antics… you know, the standard Cartman routine Crabbman pinned on you.
“Walt…um (how to I brake [sic LOL] it to you)…you were not invited to comment on my question of 9:39PM.”
Yes, he was, “Jon”. If you want private, put it in an email. And stop trying to post after a few bottles of 2 Buck Chuck.
FYI to everyone else, I’m sure Pelline won’t be seen dead in the place, but the $4 Cline 2013 Zinfandel at the Gross Me Outlet (sold in supers for $12) is nearly as good as the Smith 2013 Primitivo (California’s Zinfandel and Italy’s Primitivo are both clones of the original grape, Dalmatia’s Crljenak Kaštelanski) which I was drinking before they won their latest medals, and that really is a great hooch. I’m impressed Smiths had the forethought to graft Primitivo from UC Davis on their root stock years ago an investment that is now paying off. They’re doing it right.
So, Jeff, if you’re going to drink yourself into a state where you can’t tell break from brake, do it with a couple glasses of the Smith followed by a couple bottles of Cline… and I doubt you could tell the difference in a proper tasting anyway.LikeLike
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David Brooks only passes as a conservative among the progressive left, not among conservatives or among the radical moderates that call themselves libertarians. Brooks is the “conservative” liberals hire because they can stand him.
He has described himself as originally liberal until Milton Friedman demolished him in a debate, which led him to revise his original views. So Brooks can be trained, unlike some sock puppets we all know.LikeLike
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“The less-educated masses have a different conception of the future, a vision that is more closed, collective, protective and segmented. Their pain is indivisible: economic stress, community breakdown, ethnic bigotry and a loss of social status and self-worth. When people feel their world is vanishing, they are easy prey for fact-free magical thinking and demagogues who blame immigrants.”
That you believed that David Brooks was a conservative makes me feel sad for you…..much like Krugman playing the role of “economist” for the Times remember that they are there to allow you to feel comfortable in your prejudices. Also, if you were to drop “immigrants” at the end this passage you would recognize that it has been in every democratic political argument for the last 50 years. Thought that a deep thinker like yourself would have caught it.
Greg was right, lay off the cheap stuff if you want to engage. I think that you’ll find much more productive.LikeLike
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jeffpelline says:
June 28, 2016 at 10:50 pm
This “Jon Dozer” has the clowns on the hard-right blog tied up in knots! At the same time I was attending an MIM concert this afternoon, they kept thinking “Jon” was me — even addressing me as much in the thread. ROFLOL! Go “Jon Dozer”!
WOW…..guess I was wrong. I guess you would get far too winded tapping away at your smart phone while listening to a concert. No Batman label far you.
Jeez jeffy…..I really asked only one thing of you (two if you include me wanting you to depart from the Bee….since they eventually recognized their mistake and dropped you, I refuse to claim any credit) that you not make me feel sorry for you.
You’re flirting with it!LikeLike
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LOL!! The “jon” can be any one of our local “loser” LIBS. The funny thing is,they are interchangeable. Just like the pieces on Mr.Potato Head.
OK “jon”, consider yourself the the redheaded stepchild of a rented mule here. (used, and beaten on a daily basis.) The best part is you keep coming back for more!
I will be back this afternoon to get take my turn with the “jonnie” be good stick.LikeLike
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The “jon” can be any one of our local “loser” LIBS.
That has been the working theory…..that “jon” is a puppet with many hands jammed up his flue.
Recently though he seems to have been emoting much like a certain former editor of your local newspaper…..the self pity, the unearned sense of self importance, the snobbery……typical jeffy.LikeLike
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jeffpelline says:
June 29, 2016 at 6:20 am
One day I will share the comments that don’t get cleared — email, IP address and all. This month I notice one each from “Bill Tozer” and Michael R. Kesti. It’s like having gum stuck on your shoe. LOL.
One each? Congrats for doubling your site traffic!
….and as always LOL.LikeLike
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Fish you are tooo funny!
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Latest Quininipiac poll
“Democrat Hillary Clinton has 42 percent to Republican Donald Trump’s 40 percent – too close to call – as American voters say neither candidate would be a good president and that the campaign has increased hatred and prejudice in the nation, according to a Quinnipiac University National poll released today. “LikeLike
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CNN hot off the press. Drumpf looking grrrrreATE.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.htmlLikeLike
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I find it hard to believe that Jeff Pelline isn’t the author of a number of “Jon Dozer” comments, and a number smell just like Steven Frisch, the six figure CEO of the wretchedly misnamed Sierra Business Council. If I had to bet, I’d bet on only those two being the fisters of the Dozer sock.
Even if he was at a MIM concert, Jeffie could have posted via smartphone from the two seats he occupied.LikeLike
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I doubt he was there.
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