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George Rebane

A continuing narrative on these pages has been the grossly asymmetric way that the Right (conservatives, libertarians) and Left (socialists, liberals) treat each other’s expression of ideas and beliefs in the public fora.  A corollary to this narrative is how narrow and broad are the spectra of news sources and commentaries that each side consumes.  This morning’s papers and news sites are chuck full of examples.

Comparing those of collectivist vs conservetarian bent, I ask –

• What’s the relative frequency of the Left vs Right assembling, organizing, and transporting a legion of hoodlums and rioters to block Right vs Left gatherings – political gatherings (e.g. here and here), conventions, economic conferences, religious meetings, … ?  (Here the progressive reader should do his best in the attempt to distinguish between a peaceful demonstration and a disruption requiring the presence of armed police to keep the peace).
• Which political cohort has subverted our educational system to become the outlet for disseminating their ideology and enforcing ‘correct thinking’ about every social issue of significance?
• Which political cohort has commandeered the humanities in the nation’s institutions of higher learning, and in the process created a generation of intellectually vapid students who must be actively and selectively shielded from politically incorrect, insensitive, and sometimes outrageous ideas and modes of thought?
• The congressional members of which party have politicized science and are now actively attacking corporations, think tanks, and scientific agencies to criminalize public skepticism of the causes and portents of global warming?
• People of which political philosophy are actively promoting policies and laws that continually diminish the public’s use of public lands and public waters.
• Which political extreme takes as ground truth that if an individual is only against government funding of some activity, then that is indisputable evidence that they are actively trying to proscribe or censor that activity per se.
• People of which political philosophy are actively promoting objectives and "sustainable development" policies which are stated (here) in the UN’s Agenda 21 (while vehemently denying that they are doing any such thing).


This list could go on and on.  But let me end with a little liberal bagatelle from the 30apr16 Union that published a letter from Ms Heidi Hall (here), liberal candidate for Nevada County’s District 1 Supervisor.  In there she castigated Mr Stan Meckler for pointing out that the “connections” she originally claimed “between Americans for Good Government and the Tea Party” were fallacious and even pernicious.  By her one-sided liberal logic – a version that supports its own brand of ‘reasoning’ in our society – if a certain party or parties who belong to organization A and then go on to found organization B, then it is OrgA that founded OrgB and are necessarily related in some material (i.e. “cynical and secretive”) way.  I won’t go into the sources from which she drew her information; expanding that thread here would add some out-of-scope humor.

But here’s the asymmetry, this kind of connections only work for people on the Right.  One must never claim that, say, just because George Soros is a Democrat, therefore his founding or funding of a number of leftwing organizations – e.g. Open Society Institute – means that the Democrat Party founded those organizations or has a material relationship with them.  And the same can never be said of the Democrat Party’s relationship with the Clinton Foundation just because the Billarys and other executives of the foundation are high-level Democrats.

So coming full circle – they ain’t like us.

[1may16 update]  This kind of post has usually elicited a more in-depth discussion of the nuances of ideological orientation – where we fit in the multifarious universe of socio-political beliefs and under what labels do we wish to be known.  And I’m happy to say that in that the above scribblings continue to serve.

In such discussions I cannot claim to stand on an alabaster pedestal of unvarnished truth, but only attempt to explain in a coherent and cogent way how the ideological landscape has appeared and made sense to me over a span of some six decades.  Some readers may be aware that I have a penchant for the operational/pragmatic scheme of things that successfully answers questions like ‘how can I tell if (insert proposition) is true or works or exists or …?’  For that reason I have made available my credo (q.v.), my teachers, my stance on issues, and what I have chosen to call myself.

Even though any real palette of political colors is much more complex than the widely and long accepted Left/Right spectrum, in most of the daily round we have to live with the established lexicon.  Unfortunately, in our effort to distinguish ourselves elevator speeches don’t permit many details, especially of the nuanced kind.  Fortunately in these pages we can go a bit, but still not much, beyond elevator communications.

An issue of interest here is how to understand and where to put people self-described as libertarians.  In the common lexicon of the day, libertarians are located to the right of center in the one-dimensional R/L spectrum (see graphic here).  But some time ago David Nolan and others sought make things more explicit and came up with various graphical representations of more complex political spectra.  The most popular and enduring is the Nolan Chart which has been much discussed in these pages over the years (e.g. here and here).  For images of such representations google ‘Nolan Chart’ and look at the images.

But the main conclusion here is that modern liberals and conservatives are quite a bit different than the people who claimed those labels in the 19th century – especially in its early part.  Conservatives hewed to various forms of autocracy represented by monarchical and empire forms of governance which included more or less strict behavioral guidelines usually enforced with the co-operation of the state’s religion.  Economies were strictly corporatist in which the state took its cut and in turn limited competition from entrepreneurial newcomers.

The (classical) liberals of that century were those who sought to follow the teachings of Enlightenment thinkers such as Bacon, Descartes, and Newton, and to compromise the contentions of such social philosophers as Locke and Hume (compare here) into a practical picture of man under beneficial governance – none more successfully than our Founders.  The American experience was studied, reported, and summarized by men like de Tocqueville and Bastiat, the latter’s distillation in The Law (q.v.) ranks high in the scriptural basis for today’s libertarians and conservatives.

In the latter 19th century the wing of post-monarchial liberals tended to a progressive amalgam of Hobbesian and Marxist worldviews and ultimately adopted the progressive label but also co-opted ‘liberal’ in the public mind.  Those who sought to retain (conserve) the teachings of the earlier classical liberals and differentiate themselves from the new breed of collectivists satisfied themselves with the ‘conservative’ label especially as they incorporated Anglo-Saxon cultural memes and the Christian religions into their expanded beliefs.

But highlighting a weakness of the Nolan chart, modern conservatives are not ‘low’ on personal freedoms, and hew more to what Bastiat taught and described in his nature of the individual living under beneficent governance.  So where old-time conservatives (e.g. Tories) wanted to, say, conserve the trappings of monarchy, the modern American conservative wants to conserve the originalism of the Constitution and the economic dynamism, entrepreneurialism, and individualism that was practiced in the 19th century.

Into all this in America arose a potpourri of political philosophies that grudgingly adopted the label of libertarian.  Those so moved and motivated were a disorganized lot.  Scholars studying the matter have concluded –

What it means to be a "libertarian" in a political sense is a contentious issue, especially among libertarians themselves. There is no single theory that can be safely identified as the libertarian theory, and probably no single principle or set of principles on which all libertarians can agree. Nevertheless, there is a certain family resemblance among libertarian theories that can serve as a framework for analysis.  (more here)

Today a leading source of libertarian light and cohesion is the Cato Institute which seeks to unify the various libertarian threads.  One of its scholars David Boaz has recently revised/written what may be considered a libertarian manifesto in his The Libertarian Mind (2015).  A very readable history of libertarianism can be accessed here.  (Full disclosure – I am a longtime supporter and member of the Cato Institute.)

Today most, but not all, the ideologically formed would assign libertarians to the Right in the simple everyday political spectrum.  Only in more detailed analyses do we separate libertarians from conservatives, and then not always successfully.  As mentioned above, the Nolan chart’s simplistic format low scores on personal freedoms are attributed to conservatives, a tenet which no modern conservative would accept.

Modern conservatives also eschew the religious restrictions of their forebears, and today promote free public expression of all religions – at least of all religions that do not promote the destruction of America as an obstacle to God’s plan for mankind.

Attempting to reconcile what conservatives and libertarians claimed as their own, I found a middle ground that I labeled conservetarian – being basically a libertarian with a conservative foreign policy outlook.  I could not go with my libertarian brethren who seem to promote the idea of a defenseless yet commercially successful and wealthy state surviving within a community of nations whose major hegemons have demonstrated their intent to violate the Westphalian convention (q.v.) at every opportunity.  Hence I am a conservetarian who promotes a kick-ass foreign policy rather than one of a kicked-ass kind.

Since my own declaration, conservetarianism has risen of its own accord within a community of other like-minded ideologues.  We now even claim a manifesto in Charles Cooke’s The Conservatarian Manifesto: Libertarians, Conservatives, and the Fight for the Right’s Future (2015), note the spelling variance.  Such an essay was required given that both the modern conservatives and liberals had equivalent documents they could cite.  For the liberals of an historically progressive bent I point you to the extensive oeuvre of Anthony Giddens’ socio-political writings that include what may be considered his summa in The Progressive Manifesto (2013).  I’m somewhat blown away that for a number of years the man was Director of the London School of Economics.

So in sum, I cannot claim to be anything more than a student of the exciting and important subject of socio-political philosophies and related disciplines that inform us how we build and maintain societies.  All such labeled philosophies are really fuzzy sets whose tenets are gathered, sometimes willy-nilly, by various pundits and proponents.  But almost all of them have leaked out of their carefully fashioned nests and are found to also populate other belief systems, many of which claim them as uniquely their own.  I tend to ideologically label people by what I see as the preponderance of their displayed attributes, and those primarily selected by how they walk instead of only talk.  And even in that I often err.

Finally, for anyone who thinks they have a well-formed ideology, especially one deserving of a name, I invite them to put down a dated comprehensive list of its tenets.  Absent that, all arguments of what this or that labeled ideologue may believe come with flaws, often tolerable but always congenital.

Some more of my previous scribblings on the topic that may be relevant can be found here, here, and here.

[5may16 update]  Heard Bernie Sanders on NPR this morning reveal his latest socialist shibboleth about what is corporate welfare.  The man told us that Walmart is a recipient of corporate welfare because some of its employees get checks from the government for various kinds of benefits for which they qualify.  With that broad brush he painted literally every employer in the country as a recipient of corporate welfare without even pausing to let his intellectually bereft constituents contemplate the larger and more comprehensive social perversion that he glibly purveys across the country.  And that is his ‘self-evident’ truth that an employer is responsible for supplying all the needs of his employees that money can buy.

To the extent that the employee gets remunerated or his needs satisfied from some other source(s), to that extent the employer is then subsidized by that/those source(s).  For those listening to Sanders, as for those who listened to Lenin, there is no need to stop and think before confirming again that capitalism and private enterprise are intrinsically evil – just move along there.

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66 responses to “They sure ain’t like us (updated 5may16)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    New York Times is having a small cow over Trump win.
    The Republican Party’s trek into the darkness took a fateful step in Indiana on Tuesday.
    And, no surprise our local lefty blogger provided the text and a link. The elites, Democrat and Republican, just don’t get it the people are pissed and they no longer trust the existing power structure and are willing to destroy it in the hope something better will result. I fear their hopes will be dashed, but right now they so not give a damn, they are going to change the power structure and Trump is the instrument of destruction!

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  2. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    Unfortunately Russ, there is that small detail about the electoral college and general election demographics.
    But anyone is free to dream of destructive ideas, and of demagogue leaders who share their racist and sexist core beliefs.
    Enjoy your day in the sun during this high water mark for the Drumpf Brigade.
    Can’t fight the demographics and the electoral college.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I love the PE assumption of projecting onto others what conservative values are and how we should only look back to the 60’s. I understand that’s you limited perspective. Shall we look all the way back to Lincoln and the beginnings?

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  4. Jon Dozer Avatar
    Jon Dozer

    I wish you well looking to your present! LOL. As I said in my post above. Drumpf is poison for the GOP. Senate- gone, President-gone.
    If that’s what you wanted….:)

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Hillary will take down the democrats for a generation. It will be a cakewalk and all conservative. Wow!

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  6. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    IF YOU’VE NEVER HEARD OF “TIBET 5100 WATER RESOURCES, LTD,” YOU’RE NOT ALONE: It’s a Chinese firm doing business in Tibet as “Tibet Water.” Secretary of State John Kerry knows about it because a family trust of his wife, Teresa Heinz, is invested in the company that bottles Tibetan glacial water and sells it in Europe as an alternative to Evian and Perrier.
    Tibet is the world’s highest land and home to Mt. Everest and Tibetan Bhuddism. It’s also long been the object of Chinese imperialism and is under Beijing’s heavy-handed rule today. Thanks to the thousands of glaciers in Tibet, the land has lots of water, which is why Tibet Water is there. Tibet Water is closely linked to the Chinese government and to the Communist Party that controls it.
    So why is the U.S. Secretary of State’s family invested in a company that is exploiting the natural resources of a poor neighbor, an exploitation, by the way, that could not occur without the approval of the government of China? Good question. The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group’s Richard Pollock, who exclusively reported the investment today, has asked Kerry’s spokesman for an explanation.
    Certainly, not like us.

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Set the wayback machine to Apr 30 at 6:57PM
    “In today’s de facto ideological duopoly libertarians are seen as rightwingers”
    -George Rebane
    …and in the May Day update, George provides an old link to yet another one dimensional model that puts Conservatives to the left of libertarians. That progressives might believe it to be true does not lend much credibility; to me, it smacks of the Right grabbing a piece of libertarianism just as the left has wrapped itself in their faux liberalism that substitutes distributing Other People’s Money (like bread at the circuses) for freedoms from government.
    An Austrian School/Popperian point of view is well supported in “THE POLITICAL COMPASS & WHY LIBERTARIANISM IS NOT RIGHT-WING” by J.C. Lester
    http://www.la-articles.org.uk/pc.htm
    A nice unification of the left and right wing usurping of libertarianism is found by his quoting of Brittan (1968)

    The dilemma of the [classical] liberal is that while Conservatives now use the language of individual freedom, they apply this only — if at all — to domestic economic questions. They are the less libertarian of the two parties — despite individual exceptions — on all matters of personal and social conduct, and are much the more hawk-like in their attitude to ‘foreign affairs’. Labour, on the other hand, has liberal instincts on foreign affairs and personal conduct, but is perversely blind to the claims of economic liberty, which is distrusted as a capitalist rationalisation.

    Your favored one dimensional model is just a projection of the old circle model onto a line… with a snip separating extreme left and right.
    One passage hits the nail on the head:”In reality, then, it is non-libertarians who are being tendentious if they insist that libertarianism is on the ‘extreme right-wing’. This usage is merely a pejorative and an excuse to avoid debate”.

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 407pm – Have very little problem with your comment (analysis?) save the “snip separating extreme left and right.” There I’ll stand with the structure I presented in ‘Ideologies and Governance – a structured look’ here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/02/ideologies-and-governance-a-structured-look.html
    We have no modern experience with the anarchistic extreme on the Right (see figure). But we do have plenty of experience with the collectivist extremes of the Left. But it boggles my mind in trying to connect the ultra-individualism of the Right with the ultra-collectivism (surrendering self to serve class) of the Left, no matter what reasonable ideological topologies, including the “old circle model”, you might invoke.

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    You’re needlessly repeating yourself, George, and that one dimensional model for all political thought is ridiculous. Segment by segment, it is the same as the circular model, akin to the Byzantine ad hoc attempts in the past to make the geocentric model fit the heliocentric reality.
    The Nolan chart is certainly an oversimplification of reality, but you can at least see reality using it as a guide. Left and Right may well have had real meaning two centuries ago in the French National Ass’y but now, it’s mostly a formula for being blind as to what the real differences are, a tool for identification friend or foe, not a basis of understanding and rational discourse.
    That day in ’88 above Beverly Hills when Dr. Timothy Leary hosted a reception for Ron Paul during his presidential run, there may well have been only one right winger in attendance… Debra Saunders, now of the Chronicle. Everyone else were very probably the low tax liberals that the modern Libertarian Party is known for.
    Besides, Bastiat sat on the Left.

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 843pm – Well thanks for that frank vote of confidence. It looks like a nice place to end this thread.

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George, I accept your forfeit. A libertarian government is essentially no different than that specified by the Constitution as constrained by the Bill of Rights. Low tax liberalism. Whigs, with the slavery issue resolved in the favor of liberty. Jefferson, not Joe McCarthy.
    In related news, Republican strategist and James Carville’s strange bedfellow, Mary Matalin, apparently registered Libertarian yesterday and is adamant it wasn’t because of Trump, for whom she may vote. It’s that she was a Republican in a Jeffersonian and Madisonian sense… not exactly extreme right wing sentiments, are they? To understand this you’ll have to give up the ludicrous idea that libertarians are to the right of Conservatives and one step away from right wing anarchy… that is somehow different than the left wing anarchy near the other end of your line segment that presents all political thought on the same one dimensional representation. Just pick the point on that line.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 901am – “forfeit”? in your dreams Gregory. You just don’t understand the cited figure as drawn. 1) there is no “ludicrous idea that libertarians are to the right of Conservatives …” in that figure. The dimension of governance indicated is NOT right/left, but the clearly marked spectrum of collectivism-to-individualism in society. 2) the dimension ‘Type of Government Control’ actually portrays the TBD multiple dimensions of attribute space that comprise any given type of governance of which the Nolan Chart attempts to capture two. That is why the ‘-isms’ can wander/wiggle in this manifold as the level of collectivism increases. (This manner of indicating high dimensioned spaces is standard in the literature.)
    Nevertheless, I am sorry that I didn’t make that figure easier for you to understand. But I have yet to find a graphic that captures and displays the multiple notions of governance indicated in my figure. Perhaps you can point me to a better one.

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Let me pick up one of Russ’ points, 02May 8:06AM

    Why is the Left hostile to Western civilization?
    After decades of considering this question, the answer Dennis Prager concluded is: standards.
    The Left hates standards – moral standards, artistic standards, cultural standards.
    The West is built on all three, and has excelled in all three.
    Why does the Left hate standards? It hates standards because when there are standards, there is judgment. And Leftists don’t want to be judged.

    To the contrary, the hard Left are among the most judgmental SOB’s on the planet. On the national scale, I’ve had friends who grew up and became engineers under both the PRC and USSR systems… it was work, it was harsh judgements, and they eventually escaped. One guy, a Romanian political refugee, was shocked at how much smarter Americans were than he was used to but I think he finally accepted what I told him… he was in a small R&D skunkworks that was filled with people smarter than in most engineering departments… we’d all been judged harshly and invited in.
    On smaller scales, I’ve been told our local hard left elementary school, the Yuba River Charter, harshly judges parents who let their kids watch TV.
    What the Left doesn’t want is to be judged by the standards of the Right, and vice versa. They both think they are Western Civilization.

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Curious… when you wrote that old post with that even older figure, you introduced it as “But when all is said and done, the modern progressives do accept a right/left view that is approximated in the figure below”, clearly labeling it a right/left view… but in your revision today, you claim “The dimension of governance indicated is NOT right/left, but the clearly marked spectrum of collectivism-to-individualism in society”, but that is not at all in the text.
    Unfortunately the website you borrowed the figure has had a change of heart and essentially took the site down, so trying to find out what the creator of that piece of graphical misinformation intended isn’t as easy as it should be.
    It seems to me your interpretations change with the winds. “Classical liberalism” is NOT the same as conservatism except in the minds of some delusional conservatives while libertarianism really is classical liberalism, but unfortunately, socialists/progressives have appropriated the term liberal. For now.
    In my opinion, there isn’t a chance in hell that conservatives will call themselves liberals when the left gets tired of the label.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 549pm – The ‘older’ figure on top shows how common wisdom stacks the labeled ideologies in the simple one-dim world. My 947am only addressed the lower figure that I drew. And for good or ill, today’s self-declared conservatives like to think of themselves as ‘classical liberals’ even though the equivalence doesn’t stand close scrutiny – the ideological jumble is what it is. And given The Donald’s advent, I believe that today’s conservatives will twist themselves into a pretzel as they attempt to redefine themselves. I’ll stick with conservetarian as specified in my credo, and well approximated in Cooke’s ‘The Conservatarian Manifesto’.
    But in broader discussions I’ll continue to use collectivism-to-individualism as the key (i.e. dominant Eigen) dimension as shown in my figure to distinguish between modes of governance. Hope that helps.
    [Later]. Apparently I missed a salient point of yours (am on travel, airports are a bummer). My reference to progressives’ interpretation of the figure was just that. They too simplify to a right/left spectrum. There was no “revision today”. But then again, you may choose to believe what comforts most.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: Ms. Hodge’s spendid editorial in today’s Union. I could be wrong, but I think she feels we should be more like the group think of wherever she is from. We be behind that times. Hey, we finally got them ATM card readers on our gas pumps along with that black foreskin. What more do you want?? If you think we here in the boondocks are too laid back, last time I was in Montana (maybe 3-4 years ago, I but petro in the horseless carriage and there was no black foreskins on the nozzle. I topped ‘er off and savored each end every second of viewing the shiny metallic tip of nozzle emitted vapors into the bluest of blue skies. Big Sky Country. They be farer behind the times.

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