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Sandbox – 16apr16

16 April 2016

[Apologies; it’s past the time for fresh sand. A correspondent sent me this one-liner seen on a t-shirt: "liberalism: moochers electing looters to steal from the producers!" Now some of our readers are of the zero-sum variety and maintain that it’s the 1% who steal from the 99%. And that keeps the country destitute, causes foreigners to spurn coming here, and gives rise to the long lines of Americans clamoring to emigrate to greener and socially more just pastures. gjr]

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170 responses to “Sandbox – 16apr16”

fish

22 April 2016

Posted by: Jon | 22 April 2016 at 10:52 AM
Then again, the House is being run by illogical, ideological half-wits.
Whew….that’s a relief…..for a minute I was afraid that it didn’t match a similar level of idiocy emanating from the executive branch.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Todd, tell us more about those “commies” and how they established Earth Day.
..this ought to be good..:)

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Without her ion coming in. There would be a lot less drug addicts and music icons. Treating addicts is only part of the solution to a big problem. Start first with hindering the flow of Narcotics flooding our country from the low life scum Mexican Nationals who rape murder pillage.. there is no such thing as a law-abiding pusher or illegal alien
Let’s kill two birds with the same Stone. Stop the flow of Narcotics and scum that carry them on their back into our blessed country.. There is no such thing as a law-abiding illegal alien. There is no such thing as a law-abiding pressure of heroin.

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Todd Juvinall

22 April 2016

“jon” you are so infantile. Is that what you learn?

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Walt

22 April 2016

Nailed Todd, the “jon” is posting at the 5TH grade level. No substance, no facts, ans even sucks at sarcasm. Hell. when will the schools teach the LIB children to clean up their own mess? From generation wuss on down, these snot nosed kids like “jon” want others to pay their way through life, and to clean up after them.
Half-wits “jon”? It more than you have. The proof is in your posts.
My apologies. I’m cutting into your skim milk and graham cracker time.

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Don Bessee

22 April 2016

So the ‘jon’ claims the same position on W as SYRCL does he. Neither for or against is their official position of record. While we know that’s not the view of most of them in SYRCL, their tax exempt status means they cant really endorse or fight W, right?

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

No skim milk. There is a kid out in some playground that just might be lactouse intolerate. Ban all milk for everybody. That poor child is also confused if he is a boy or girl. He must decide before he turns 8 years old if he is a she or a he or it or a Hershey bar. After seven and a half years of Obama, our president has left us with the legacy of we don’t know which bathroom to use.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Walt and Todd,
It truly is sad that you both got left behind in school, in the days before “No Child Left Behind”, the program started by the man you and so many of your ilk both admire.
But some advice, if I may- being bitter about your plight, and scapegoating today’s more educated and enlightened young people won’t really help matters. Accept it, take remedial training classes- and I would suggest some yoga, meditation and environmental classes while you’re at it.
Good for your tortured souls. Earth Day is a perfect day to reflect on matters.

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George Rebane

22 April 2016

Gentle readers, I invite continuing your Measure W related comments on the new ‘scattershots’.

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fish

22 April 2016

Posted by: Jon | 22 April 2016 at 11:27 AM
Decent effort….
TROLL GRADE: B-
You have some skills but your partisan inclinations always come across as too smarmy.

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Brad C.

22 April 2016

Dr. R. – thanks, I copied my Weston/Miller comment over to Scattershots.

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Todd Juvinall

22 April 2016

Fish you have the “jon” nailed. His fifth grade level comments are boring but his leftwing partisanship screeds are eye openers. My guess is he left his share of trash at the 420 in SF and his yard off of Ridge and Bear is a mess of old cars and a garden of delight to 420 people. But overall, he is a bore. If he wants some traction he should go to where he is needed. Pelline’s. LOL!

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Jon

22 April 2016

Todd, hilarious stuff. You seem very sure about Ridge and Bear… LOL.

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Walt

22 April 2016

Poor “jon” he/she/it tries to slam other people’s smars, yet can’t remember what he said in his own posts. Yet he claims not to smoke dope. Step back and away from the bong “jon”.
Short term memory loss is the first big clue. I guess you also forget you said you have never occupied a seat in a class of higher learning. I’m far from being “passed by”.(unlike you)

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Walt

22 April 2016

Damn.. that last lighting strike messed up my word..That should be “smarts”.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Ridge road? That be Fursch or whatever jim’s last name is. You know, our local die hard Establishment Democrat who worked for the FRISCO Values gun runner…..and proud of it. That be my definition of extreme.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Wow. Walt did you just feel that last cell that pass through? Darn I have a creek and waterfall flowing down my formerly dry barren front heading to right to the front deck. Knocked power off briefly and the darn puppy thinks it’s too much fun to get inside.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Walt, trust me, more than a LIGHTING strike has messed up your smarts…

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Jon

22 April 2016

Tozer, a creek and waterfall? Cool. My wife would love to have a water feature like that! We’ve been putting it off for years.

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Todd Juvinall

22 April 2016

Walt, I think lightning hit the fifth grader “jon” in the head. What a hoot!

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Jon, I ain’t into unplanned waterfalls or creeks. Got hit by a storm cell that was brief, yet intense. Heading north, probably missed GV and NC. Water fall from sky. Big booms in sky. All gone. Nothing to see here….except another drainage project has been exposed. Smiley face.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

This one is too easy for the non liberal mind. As soon as I heard a few weeks ago that the amoral immigrants from North Africa were heading to Sicily, I said, “Oh boy, this should be fun.” Mafia and North African cultures do not mix. Ever wonder why there are no terrorist attacks on Sicilian soil? Answer: cause the Mafia does not put up with that kind of hanky panky on the home turf. That be disrespectful. They protect their people, especially their women.
In all fairness, there seems to be two kinds of Arabs/Muslims, depending on their country of origin. The lion’s share of the rape epidemic raging across Civilized and Tolerate Euroland can be directly laid at the feet of the Libyans, Moroccans, and tribal countries of that area. Very very Stone Age uneducated thieving misogynists. All Arabs are misogynists (be it political, social, cultural, religious), but this patch is the scum on top of the puke bucket. Their gang raping actions can be traced to anywhere they trod. Sort of like the PLO. Everywhere the PLO went, the place turned to shit. Think Beruit pre-PLO and then think Beriut post-PLO. Not all Arabs act that way. Syrian Christians, Jordanians, some Iraqis come to mind, put I digress. There is bad and there is the worst.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3546081/Mafia-declares-WAR-migrants-Sicilian-gangster-shoots-innocent-Gambian-head-amid-soaring-levels-migration-Italy-mayor-saying-Sicily-s-capital-no-longer-European.html

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Walt

22 April 2016

That was a doozy, Bill. Lightning tagged a tree in the yard next door. It seemed we got an inch of rain in ten minutes. That’s the second time this year lightning has hit so close.
The guy next door just can’t catch a break. Now he has two trees scared for life.
All that water that came down has chased our resident troll out of hiding. Poor “jon” has to wait for the tide to go down before he/she/it can slither back under it’s bridge. Judging by his piss poor posts,, he needed the bath.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Wow, a couple of trees are scared for life now, traumatized for life! Holy cow.
I have heard of people going into Arborpsychology in recent years, as there seems to be a big demand for things like that.

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Gregory

22 April 2016

The useful idiot Jon writes at 11:27, “It truly is sad that you both got left behind in school, in the days before “No Child Left Behind”, the program started by the man you and so many of your ilk both admire.”
Passed the House on May 23, 2001 (384–45)
Passed the Senate on June 14, 2001 (91–8)
It was as much Teddy Kennedy’s bill as it was GW Bush’s, possibly more, and had Obama actually made deals that could unite the country rather than divide it, we’d be in better shape.

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Walt

22 April 2016

Oh Yaaa..”we” got left behind. Funny,, it’s you and your kind “jon” that want others to pay your way. You want the state to force employers to pay more money because you lack the will to better yourself that would give cause to earn more. I earned everything I have, and blame no one for the things I don’t. I praise the ones who have done better than me, not call them names and demand they hand some over. Nope I’m not like you and your ilk “jon”.
Sink or swim boy,, if your not rich, it’s your own damned fault. No one owes you shit.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Wow Walt, that was certainly a mouthful of angry ignorance..holy Toledo!

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Jon

22 April 2016

Gregory, thanks for confirming No Child Left Behind.GW Bush certainly took full credit for it that year, and I give the credit to him. Can always count on you for adding the boorish details of any topic. 🙂

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Walt

22 April 2016

You mistake reality for anger. Let us know how it feels to be a leach on society.
Sponging off taxpayers is something I have never done. You come across as someone who has done it plenty, since your a Berner boy.Good thing he won’t be elected.

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Gregory

22 April 2016

What a putz “Jon” is… perhaps the strongest bipartisan landslide in modern Congressional memory and all “Jon” can do is spin partisan BS.
California was already on a roll doing NCLBish testing in ’01, and by then we already had the best content standards in the US in place. Too bad the education mafia helped shed the process in place for the empty Common Core promise of Race to the Top grant funding. Too bad the state didn’t get a penny to help pay the Billion$ “Common Core” is costing us. Of course, at the time no one knew that the guy (Phil Daro, whose only degree remains a BA English) who directed the 1992 California Math Frameworks disaster was the Chairman and a lead author of the Common Core math standards disaster.
Personally, the whole NCLB concept as stated in the title was Bull from the start. Of course there will be kids left in the dust, no matter what the Congress tries to do. There is too much a range of abilities and motivation among students, and among teachers and administrators, to ever make a promise of none being left behind. Failure is always an option, for students, teachers and administrators. Congresscritters, too.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Oh, I remember this well. Arguing with a lib who cited source after source that the world would run out of oil by the new milimiim. Think I was called a corporate shrill for the big bad hiding the truth oil companies and planet destroyers. Mark the tape.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/04/22/these-earth-day-predictions-from-1970-never-came-true.html?intcmp=hpbt3

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Gregory

22 April 2016

Checking…
In the House, the NCLB no vote… only 10 Democrats in the House voted against it. 35 R’s voted against it.
In the Senate, only 2 Democrats voted against it.
Yet, once the dogpile on Bush was called by Dems, it became George’s fault, held in contempt by the likes of “Jon”, sounding a lot like Pelline today. You can’t make this stuff up. It was a Democratic landslide in both the House and the Senate.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

What would Prince do?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/833092700158102/?type=3&theater

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Jon

22 April 2016

Greg, So very sorry if GW Bush took full credit for NCLB, photo ops and all. He owns it in the history books, he signed it, he is a Republican. The Dems were all to ready to go along with Bush on his plan, and it was a mistake. Bipartisan votes for sure.
“Mission Accomplished” Shrub!

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Oh, the gift that keeps on giving:
“If all the young people who claim to be disillusioned now had voted in 2010, we wouldn’t have lost the Congress, and we’d probably have our incomes back.”
My, Wet Willie, maybe they were too young to vote 8 years ago.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bubba-does-it-again-blaming-kids-for-the-nations-economic-woes/article/2589291

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Gregory

22 April 2016

“if GW Bush took full credit for NCLB”
-“Jon” the shmuck
Full credit?
He didn’t.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Um, yes he did. But I realize how much you don’t like to admit your fondness for conservative Republicans. Its OK Greg, really.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Too rich :).. The Bush Library loves to display one of Shrub’s key achievements-
http://bushrewrite.americanbridge.org/bush-library-emphasizes-no-child-left-behind/

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Walt

22 April 2016

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/22/celebrate-the-second-amendment-with-these-gorgeous-gun-loving-women-slideshow/
The “jon” will most likely take issue. I doubt the ladies are LIBS. They are holding guns.
Then again, the “jon” may not be old enough to view such material.

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Jon

22 April 2016

Walt, what’s your take on the horrible act of Domestic terrorism today in Ohio? – 8 innocents killed by likely white redneck suspect or suspectss with guns. Mass terrorism. Perhaps restrictions on white redneck behavior and associated weaponry is warranted. I’m sick of hearing about these types of atrocities in our heartland and rural areas.

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Gregory

22 April 2016

“Jon”, the Democratic Party support for NCLB was nearly as complete as it’s support for Obamacare, and it didn’t take Pelosi’s whip to make it happen.
Here’s yet another account of the process

Recall the context of those times. President Bush had won reelection after the nightmarish Florida recount and Supreme Court decision and many Democrats wanted nothing to do with him. The president nevertheless extended his right hand to Democrats, and one who took it was the biggest Democrat of all, Ted Kennedy. He came to dinner with the Bushes, watched a movie at the White House and generally started to work with Bush on reforming federal education law.
Throughout 2001, while Bush was getting hammered by many Democrats for pursuing tax cuts, Kennedy kept working on a center-out strategy with the White House and the Hill on education reform. Through painstaking negotiations, the foursome worked with Bush domestic advisers Margaret Spellings and Sandy Kress on the legislation.
What I loved was the political approach of that bill: It didn’t start as conservatives trying to get liberals to sign on, or liberals trying to get conservatives to sign on. It instead started with both sides meeting in the middle and figuring out a way to produce a bill they both could support.
<a href="http://educationfrontblog.dallasnews.com/2009/08/ted-kennedy-and-no-child-left.html/

“>http://educationfrontblog.dallasnews.com/2009/08/ted-kennedy-and-no-child-left.html/

Bush didn’t take “complete credit”…. it was a masterful cooperative venture from the start.

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Bill Tozer

22 April 2016

Walt, you never know if those patriot women are all libs. Half-brain Gabby owns a glock. Too bad she wasn’t carrying on that fateful day the crazy white Democrat plugged her in the noggin. Sad. Biden’s wife is armed as well. Probably to protect her from Shotgun Joe when his fondness for putting his hands on women arises. Did like the interesting holsters and accessories displayed on your link. Very informative.
But, a word of caution. I once was all google eyed over a fine lassie. Very independent and self sufficient. She had a whole collection of firearms and knew how to use then. Married that one when proposed, but later bought the ranch with that chapter. At least I escaped with a holely shirt on my back and life.
She even has an wrought iron sign over her property’s entrance/driveway.. It’s called Crazy Lady Ranch. Very rustic I must say.

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Walt

22 April 2016

Point taken Mr. Bill. LIBS love to practice the “do as I say, not as I do.”
As for the “jon’s” question, I say,,, go “F” yourself. It’s high time you stop asking questions, since you don’t have the balls to answer anything of substance. How hard to you work to be a royal prick? “jon” must be your middle name because your first name is Dick.
Those women offend ya? Nope, no Burka on that woman flesh.
OK smartass,, who did? what gun was used? Where did they acquire said weapon? Was it a pissed family member? Was dope being grown there?
No you don’t.
All you want to do is blame the gun, not the killer(s) (was there more than one OH great Carnak?) Where is your bitch about blaming the car when a person is killed in a traffic fatality? As usual where LIBS are concerned is that the gun is the evil killer. Funny, where any other instrument is used to kill, not a word. Axe? Going to blame the axe maker? Same with a hammer? Nope, the gun is special.
You want answers? You first shit for brains. (Like AGW..not bloody likely)
With said,, TROLL on son, TROLL on. Your one pain in the ass.. But your OUR pain in the ass. So you might feel important, when we need an ass to kick around, your always right on time.

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Walt

22 April 2016

As for Trump, He’s doing great right here in Ca. And not surprising, the Commie is too.
Hillary broke out the kneepads to get the big bucks in the state, but it’s votes that count. But I don’t see the LIB command allow Senders to win.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/23/fox-news-poll-trump-leads-in-california-clinton-sanders-in-close-race.html?intcmp=hpbt1

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Gregory

23 April 2016

Just a rhetorical question … at what point do the “Jon”‘s of the world let go of their Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is this something they’ll take to the grave?
The main flaw of No Child Left Behind was the idiotic, impossible name, and the way incompetent schools dealt with the challenge of occasional testing that sought to hold the schools accountable… spending huge amounts of time teaching to the test. In concert with those issues was the fact that any given teacher shouldn’t be tarred with the level of the students that walk into their class, but rather rewarded or shown the door based upon how much the students learn in the year they spend with them. Imagine what we might have learned about individual teachers and the administrators that provided cover had the Sacramento Bee or The Union done Value Added Analysis on Nevada County teachers… and named names.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-teachers-value-20100815-story.html
Data made available by NCLB and roundly ignored by the usual suspects.

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Jon

23 April 2016

Correct Greg. All of us will take Bush’s crimes and massive mistakes to our grave. NCLB just one of the many blunders.
Our country was damaged beyond our comprehension in lost lives in overseas wars and American fiscal catastrophe.

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George Rebane

23 April 2016

Gregory 813am – Over the years I’ve noted that when a liberal commenter, those whose arguments against some issue consist of empty rhetoric filled with name-calling and/or illogical non sequiturs, are countered with substance as you have again demonstrated here, then their response is simply to ignore and continue their empty rhetoric, change subject, but never answer substance with substance.
This behavior should dissuade none of us from countering with substance since our objective is to inform the other interested readers, and not necessarily to convince our calcified collectivist counterpart.

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Todd Juvinall

23 April 2016

I experience that on the FB Peeps pages. Ask a simple question or respond to a post and the potheads/liberals attack. It is so fun to read exactly the approach as described by GeorgeR above. But I give as good as I get. Liberals everywhere do not have logic or facts but simply react like a pig in a pen to mud.

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Michael R. Kesti

23 April 2016

Todd Juvinall 23Apr16 10:00 AM
Does that include the “simple question” concerning a “sexual problem” that you asked of me and was then deleted?

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Todd Juvinall

23 April 2016

Well answer it then and put it to rest.

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