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George Rebane

As did Hitlerโ€™s Brown Shirts, so have other socialist/communist thugs and roughnecks throughout recent history been the ones to physically disrupt the gatherings of their political opponents. This is what happened yesterday in Chicago at the planned Trump rally (here), and appears to be the start of this election seasonโ€™s violent phase โ€“ expect more of such thuggery and violation of First Amendment rights from the Left.

Apparently this junction is the result of the Democrats finally realizing that Trump could beat anyone they nominate whether it be Hillary the Unindicted, Bernie the Communist (forget that โ€˜socialistโ€™ crap), or even Foot-in-the-Mouth Joe. Were it not so, no one would care.  The Demsโ€™ big money is beginning to fund anti-Trump activities and front their far-left ideologues which tactics bare their true assessment of whatโ€™s likely for this fall unless they can physically intervene, and, of course, have the lamestream blame it on the Right.

The astute reader will note and mark the Left/Right asymmetry in the coming travails. The only ones who will remain clueless about whatโ€™s going on are the gruberized local lefties here and elsewhere.  Theyโ€™ll continue singing loudly some version of The Internationale for as long as it takes.  Trump should now cool his rhetoric, to which he has every right, and continue morphing into maximum presidential mode from here on.  Thoughts?


[13mar16 update]  This post has deservedly developed some very interesting and meaningful comment threads in its comment stream.  As the host of RR, I am again pleased.  Here I want to expand on my understanding of First Amendment (FA) rights which have been thoughtfully contended by at least two readers.

In its explicit reading our Constitutionโ€™s FA states – Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Longtime readers will have encountered my own essay (here) on rights and privileges first published some years back and much debated since then.  In sum there I argue that all rights are granted by government (which in a republican democracy is the collective that enforces our social contract in the large).  And to the extent that a government does not enforce that or any right โ€“ either uniformly or selectively โ€“ operationally that right simply ceases to exist.

The contention is that the FA is โ€œa limit on the power of the government (big or small) to restrict (an individual), not some right (for an individual) to speak and be heard.โ€  The interpretation of the FA over the last two centuries has been anything but so limited.  When we look at how the government has enforced the ability of individuals to communicate and/or speak freely in the public forum, we see that โ€“ due to the precise wording of the FA โ€“ they have mostly used other laws the effects of which become proximal to the occasion during which individuals hinder/stop free speech of other individuals.

When individuals attempt to violate FA rights, they almost always do that through some physical action that also and most clearly violates some other law intended to enforce privacy, maintain the peace, security in oneโ€™s person, prohibit trespassing, threaten violence, โ€ฆ .   It is then that government, when it selectively chooses, steps in and prevents such actions motivated by and proximal to the intent to deny free speech and/or FA rights.  That has been the clear method of enforcing the right to free speech in our Republic.  To argue that this technically is not the government enforcing the right to free speech is to my mind a specious twist of what has actually been happening in our society.   More importantly, it flies in the face of what we Americans have been taught to expect of government enforcing the Constitution โ€“ in short, such methods of guaranteeing the FA rights has made America what it is, and what continues to contribute to public peace.

As the definition of โ€˜speechโ€™ has expanded in the latter half of the 20th century, a rich body of FA case law reaching all the way to SCOTUS has come on the books.  The currently celebrated Citizens United, which among other things forces privately owned media outlets to accept political advertising from private sources which is contrary to the ideology of its ownership, and thereby goes on to defend individualsโ€™ and corporate funding of such messaging as an expression of free speech, is a case in point

Not being a student of constitutional law, I am unaware of any other parts of our Constitution than the FA that provide an umbrella mandate for the governmentโ€™s guarantee of free speech.  There may be and no doubt are other provisions in that document that have been invoked invite/impel government to also enforce free speech rights.  If, how, and when the various arms of government continue to guarantee these rights, this election season may become the most important civics lesson of our lifetime.

[16mar16 update]  My interpretation of First Amendmentโ€™s support of private free speech continues to draw ever more strident opposition in the comment stream, opposition that has now ascended to ex cathedra levels.  I have also been advised civilly yet firmly to read up on the amendment, my previous scribblings apparently giving no evidence of that.  And all along I thought that I was a student of the pragmatic school of interpreting rights and privileges, and traveled in the good company of outfits like Heritage, Cato, and Founders like Madison.  The latter wrote to his fellow legislators โ€“ โ€œThe people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable.โ€

From my โ€˜Rights and Privilegesโ€™ A RIGHT is a codified permission to do, be, or have that is granted by an agency to its member individuals/agencies who have formed and maintain the granting agency to carry out their collective will in a manner that requires the agency to expend all necessary resources to insure that such granted rights are enjoyed uniformly by all of its franchised members.

The method by which governments (โ€˜granting agenciesโ€™) convey and guarantee rights is by forcefully and through force of law act to prevent any third parties from depriving or abridging a personโ€™s ability to do, be, or have what is permitted, and also constraining its own actions in the same manner and to the same degree.  Pertaining to rights, anything beyond that is perfidious pabulum.  For example, no matter how strongly I abhor Nazi ideology, I cannot deprive or abridge present day Nazis from proselytizing, marching, waving flags, etc in the public fora any more than I can do that to a 4-H club or the parading Shriners.  Were I to attempt such interdiction, some law enforcement agency of government would swing into action to thwart me, and depending how I resist, would even kill me to protect such expressions of free speech.

This interpretation has a long history in our country, and is especially relevant in the last decades as โ€œtoday's free speech and free press law is not much influenced by original meaning. It is mostly the creature of the experience and thinking of the twentieth centuryโ€.  Within this thought and practice, there remains โ€œa small set of rather narrow exceptions to free speech protectionโ€ among which we can count incitement, false statements of facts (knowing lies), obscenity, child pornography, threats, fighting words, and words โ€œowned by othersโ€ (intellectual property).

For Heritage, UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh also advises us that โ€œfree speech/press law is sometimes called the tax code of constitutional law. (Its discussion) suggests how complex the law is, but while some of the complexity may be needless, much of it is inevitable. Communication is in many ways the most complicated of human activities, and no simple rule can properly deal with all the different kinds of harms that it can causeโ€”or all the different kinds of harms that restricting communication can cause.โ€

I hope that Iโ€™ve made clear my own humble perspective on the matter; I do tend to be the pragmatist, especially when it comes to viewing the behavior of collectives like government and in the professed practice of technology โ€“ avoid quo vadis, just watch their feet.  From my own studies, anyone speaking with certitude on what the Constitution and case law summarily conclude about free speech is definitely riding the high horse of hubris.  As with preventable global warming, the debate is far from over.  So by all means, let the debate continue.

[20mar16 update] Some random observations about the ever widening differences between the people of the Left and Right.  We now hear that more leftwing thugs in Arizona have shut down a highway leading to a Trump campaign venue, and have also had to be removed from preventing supporters entry into the venue.  Since Bolshevik times denying or disrupting the free speech of the opposition has been the hallmark, or litmus test if you will, of the collectivists under whatever banner they gather.   Itโ€™s the indelible proof that the Leftโ€™s ideas are bankrupt, and cannot contend on their own in the marketplace of ideas even when the audiences have been dumbed down.

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177 responses to “The Stop Trump Terrorists (updated 20mar16)”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Finally, a plan for Jon to use this election cycle. Jon, this was written with you in mind good buddy.
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/16/election-anxiety-stress-advice-trump-clinton-sanders

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    Quote of the Day:
    Trumpism is being driven primarily by cultural anxiety โ€” by dissatisfaction with cultural change and perceived cultural decline.
    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432822/donald-trump-culture-not-economy

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    I see your National Review cultural argument and raise you another (California…of course) economic one.

    “Given the stateโ€™s political environment, Californiaโ€™s business disincentives are unlikely to change soon. In fact, firms face new and potentially higher taxes, including a move by left-leaning groups to make permanent the roughly $7 billion in increases passed through Proposition 30 in 2012, which are currently scheduled to expire in 2018. Progressive groups are also working to eliminate the tax cap on commercial property contained in Proposition 13, leaving in place only the protections for residential real estate. That would raise commercial property taxes by as much as $9 billion annually. Businesses also face higher fees from Californiaโ€™s cap-and-trade regime to limit carbon emissions.”

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/californiaโ€™s-split-personality-14169.html

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  4. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    California Republican’s Supporting Trump Cultural Change
    With Californiaโ€™s delegate-rich primary election looming for Republicans as a possible last chance to stop Donald Trump from rolling to the nomination, Trump has established a commanding lead in the polls and a beachhead of support among the partyโ€™s California delegation in Congress.
    Pollster James Lacy revealed that respondents now hand Trump 38.3 percent support in the stateโ€™s closed primary, with Ted Cruz at 22.4 percent, John Kasich at 19.7 percent, and Marco Rubio at 10.1 percent.
    โ€œVoters registering an โ€˜undecidedโ€™ opinion were 9.6 percent,โ€ he noted. โ€œTrumpโ€™s almost 16 percent advantage over Cruz is statistically significant and well above the margin of error of the poll, which is 4.8 percent. The poll results demonstrate that Trumpโ€™s standing among Republicans in the Golden State has grown significantly in the last two months.โ€
    http://calwatchdog.com/2016/03/15/trump-train-bears-ca-gop/

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  5. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    Interesting news on the attempt to reassess commercial property for tax reasons, although there are plenty of other reasons to leave the state if you are running a company. I do wonder sometimes how much of the ‘tech’ industry in California is merely (a large ‘merely’) finding new ways to generate advertising revenue on the internet. You can argue that economic distortions are going to occur when the feedstock for tech companies is mostly unmarried (and often, imported) 20-35 year old males, there’s more interest by the herd in bars/restaurants and less in better schools/housing prices.
    In the final analysis, I suppose it’s all just a matter of moving cash flow from the private to the public sector. The machinery of government needs as much money as it can get. In order to avoid goading the voters too much you have to hide the funds transfer in a scad of subtle places.

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  6. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    Quote of the day,
    Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, who has long shied away from naming any foreign policy advisors, suggested Wednesday that he was his own top consultant on the issue.
    “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain, and I’ve said a lot of things,” Trump said during a telephone interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
    Egomaniac?

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Brad C. | 17 March 2016 at 08:12 AM
    Egomaniac?

    Yeah…..a complete narcissist in the White House would be terrib……wait….what?

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  8. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    Brad C. | 17 March 2016 at 08:12 AM
    Trump Names Jeff Sessions Chairman of Foreign Policy Advisory Committee
    GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump has named Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions chairman of his foreign policy advisory committee, Trump senior adviser Stephen Miller told Fox News Channel Wednesday night.
    Miller told “The Kelly File” host Megyn Kelly that Trump made the appointment about a week ago. The public announcement comes as Trump was mocked online after saying on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Wednesday that his foreign policy adviser was himself.
    Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-names-jeff-sessions-chairman/2016/03/16/id/719484/#ixzz43ArAKBtV

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Re the talent pool for CA’s (and the country’s) high tech industry. The Chinese are overfilling our universities with their students arriving with plenty of cash for the schools, and no plans to stay here after graduation. Here’s more –
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/heavy-recruitment-of-chinese-students-sows-discord-on-u-s-campuses-1458224413

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 17 March 2016 at 08:52 AM
    Hey all those administrator and grievance study prof retirement packages aren’t going to pay for themselves!

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The cities are going broke. Simple as that. Each time I browse the LA Times, I find a long article how some important infrastructure thang is having its budget slashed (LA Country especially) as who knows where the money is going. Those green jobs have doubled!….to about 3 percent, almost. Even Jerry Brown in his fabulous SOS address told the law makers to pass some laws quick cause the roads are falling apart. Hmmm. Now, in this glorious Golden Shower State. where have all the flowers gone?
    Now, my real topic. Judge Garland has about the same chance of a upcoming confirmation vote as does Judy Garland. Hey, I made that up. Just keep reading to stay ahead of the curb. Maybe the NYT or Huff-n-Puff Post will quote me next week or so.
    RR is where it’s all, courtesy of our tempered wise host.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Now, the non- elephant in the living room nobody is talking about except the hyperventilating left. No, not Trump. The RNC is kicking around the notion of suspending the Convention Rules Book and adopting the less confusing and more familiar Robert’s Book of Rules. And it ain’t 1500 pages of what ifs either. So, now the RNC is the Party of Transparency. Good move, rules committee. There is about 166 rules committee humans, give or take, and some are already signing on with no big opposition (yet).
    See, we redneck inbred blue blooded one tooth wonders are not gunning to destroy the Party. Nope. We are trying to save it for you fine gentlemen, but ya’ll too ignorant to see the good news.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    Now that Trump has announced appointing Sessions as his head foreign policy advisor, the question again comes up – is that sumbich really smart or just lucky? He times his outrageous pronouncements with such accuracy as to keep sucking out all the oxygen from anyone else’s media coverage. The last being his hyper-hubristic bombast of consulting his “really fine brain” as his only source of foreign policy wisdom – all to increase the blood pressure of his detractors while garnering no harm to himself.
    But sooner than later, as with the Sessions announcement, he’s got to stop that grandstanding crappola.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ok, he will tone it down a word or two….sooner or later. No worries.
    If I were Trump, I would head over to the Untouchable Council on Foreign Affairs, toss in a couple smoke gernades, and lock the door behind them after the varnmit skedaddle out into the open and to a safe place. Who says them gurus have the total say at the table? Can’t see much good has come fromThe Council. Oh, yes, there is a couple of good varnmit that aren’t lice laden out of the whole bunch, so maybe we will call those rare desert blossoms and beat up them rest….beat them hard, then play nice while standing on their necks.
    See, Dr. Rebane, that’s how you “increase the blood pressure of his detractors while garnering no harm to himself.” I just sent Snoopy running to his computer in his tree fort with a quote to get his blood boiling with no harm to my stellar reputation which proceeds moi.
    Yep, that Trump is something else. Now they are saying he will only be a one-termer. Boy, the panic stricken hate sprewers are getting way too far ahead of themselves and really out there. Relax, My Gal is fighting for you.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    Todd has a greater chance than Trump to be elected President. It’s a gimmie for the Dems. I regret that the passion for a populist movement within the Republican party settled on Trump rather than a Libertarian such as Rand Paul or his dad or Gary Johnson, who left the party after being ignored, that really believe in something more than “Lets make America great again” without a clue as to what that means in terms of policy or strategy. It’s truly a missed appropriation of passion from the anti establishment Repubs who were actually on the right path.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    As for the Dems it’s Hillary all the way carrying the establishment flag to victory in Nov. She’ll also have a wad of cash from big buck donors that will prefer a Clinton over Trump because she’ll look after their interests like hubby Bill did. Bernie issued an interesting challenge to Hillary asking her to turn over the transcript of the Wall Street speech she gave and was paid $600,000 for.
    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) called on Hillary Clinton to release the transcripts from her private speeches to Wall Street banks again during Sunday nightโ€™s CNN debate.
    โ€œWhile we are on Wall Street, one of us has a super PAC,โ€ Sanders said. โ€œOne of us has raised $15 million from Wall Street for that super PAC. One of us has given speeches on Wall Street for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now I kind of think that if you get paid a couple of hundred thousand dollars for a speech, it must be a great speech. I think we should release it and let the American people see what that transcript was.โ€
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-calls-clinton-release-wall-street-transcripts/

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Part 2.
    It is no longer personal or even partisan. It’s been since….what….1989 or longer since the Great Wetback Agreement was reached. Secure the borders first, then amnesty. Both sides agreed. But a funny thing happened on the way to Grandmother’s House.
    The varnmits froze the funding for border control. Both sides bobbled the ball. No political will and less each passing week, each passing year, each passing election, each passing decade.
    No need to blame. We have counted to 2 and a half, two and 16ths hundreds of times after counting to 3 thousands of times. And we are tired of counting to ten backwards and slowly breathing and mediating between each number on the countdown.
    Not even personal anymore, guys. We just need someone who is up to the task. It’s called will power.
    But, to be honest, that ain’t even my top beef in the least. After 8 years of being called all sorts of nasty names, I seek not revenge. Nope, I seek a sword in hand cutting off the head of the PC Dragon and expose it for what it is: hyper-segregation. Hyper divisiveness, hyper tribe before country. Slay it.
    Oh, yes, Trump’s mouth is not good. I am even willing to overlook or pretend he did not just say this or than….he is simply the right tool for the right job. After the dust settles and you should to be careful not to step in what is left of My Gal, rest assured the conservatives will be treated fairly and given a wide berth.
    We got work to do. We will call ya if we need ya in the near future, but don’t your breath.

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  18. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “the Republican party settled on Trump rather than a Libertarian such as Rand Paul or his dad or Gary Johnson,”
    P. Emery
    That’s a no-brainer. Libertarianism is mostly a coffee shop conceit held by gracile keyboard warriors.
    The irony lies strongly in this whole situation. Democrats (and their allies) have been wishing for years for an anti-globalization America-first trade situation. The instant a champion shows up (or so he claims), they all scatter to the other side of the room. The same goes with overseas interventions.
    For all I know, historians in 2500AD will see the current breakup wholely in terms of demographics. Maybe Lee Kuan Yew was right all along.
    We should do the Trump challenge. Park a car with a Trump and a car with a Sanders placard on them on a downtown street, and see who gets keyed first. That’ll tell you all you need to know about where the moral high ground is.

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  19. George Boardman Avatar

    Jeff Sessions is Trump’s foreign policy adviser? No wonder Trump thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room: He hires the dumbest people he can find.

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  20. rl crabb Avatar

    Republicans are right. There is no such thing as evolution. When you go from Lincoln to Trump in 150 years, it’s definitely going in the other direction.

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  21. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    rl crabb @ 2:03
    Lincoln was an interesting bird. He entered office with no clear idea how to accomplish anything, learned as he went (and set off a civil war with his election), and improved with practice.
    I’m afraid that hoping for a highly competent President from day one is probably pissing in the wind. Our national job interview consists of reading (or reciting) prepared speeches and partaking in a bit of barstool arguing on TV. I’ve never seen a President (Nixon might perhaps be an exception) who was a domain expert in much of anything, they hopefully can hire that in. With these elections you are, after all, really selecting a candidate and 1000 of his friends into positions of importance.
    My guess is that practically any voter chooses their new Emperor-God based on cues that range a long way from what is actually said. Trump or Hillary could be up there reading the dictionary out loud and people would still have strong feelings about their (wo)man. Funny thing.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    drioveby
    In reality whomever capture the middle wins the election. They are usually assisted by a higher crossover percent than the losing party. Hillary will easily capture the middle and all the $$$$ that goes with it. there will be lots of crossover Repubs heading her way. Sure Trump will try to be less shrill but he has no experience in being that way so it’s an unknown quantity. The Pubs threw the election in ’08 by putting Palin on the ticket and Romney was out of position trying to be a Conservative. The Pubs certainly are not nominating a Conservative when they crown Trump. There were many qualified Conservatives that were thrown under the bus (Graham, Walker, Bush, Santorium, Bubio, Paul ….. showing that the Pubs had no desire for an ideological shift but were more drawn to a personality based candidate. Truly the end of the Reagan Conservative movement as it has been. The Gipper would have long been rejected by this crowd.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    I note with continuing interest over these years the constant drumbeat of liberals prognosticating the demise of Republicans and their party as the opposite has taken place. Is contrition really in that short supply in the progressive camp?

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Boardman | 17 March 2016 at 01:54 PM
    Hardly ….the dumbest people are either already working for the current administration or campaigning to replace it on the democratic side.

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  25. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    Paul Emery
    My money is on Hillary, but mostly because she’s the face of power in the US at this point. Ambassador from Goldman Sachs, deals cut with all the tightly knit special interest groups (both ethnic and economic), tightly bound to the urban coastal media empires, riding a wave of anti-traditional-West fervor. That’s enough to nudge a win into the (D) column. The ‘middle’ goes where it’s told to go.
    Trump has a bit of money, a remarkably canny ability to work a camera, and is something of a cipher. I’m not detecting any kind of organized mafia at work here aside from a medium sized popular uprising.
    I don’t have any idea what a Trump presidency would be like, but the (more likely) Hillary administration screams Mencken. “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE, you telling us who were there in the beginning with Reagan what those values are is kind of funny. You should spend some time reviewing the writings of the ‘establishment’ when he almost beat Ford and going forward to his wins. What you are saying about Trump now sounds an awful lot like those folks who said the sky would fall if Saint Ronnie was the nominee.
    I have to admit that Trump has blown up the historical patterns so far. I thought he would have flamed out like most all of the early leading candidates. Its going to be an interesting ride that’s for sure.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Boys, boys, boys. Your wonderful suggestions are valuable and important to us crackers and assorted misfits. However, after reading PE’s (and others’ excellent solutions to the Trump Problem) I see you are using the essence of a word banned in polite society. That word is….TRIGGER WARNING!!…..that word is loser. You want us to back a loser??? Surely you jest.
    Oh, keep doing what you always do in the end….blame, blame, blame. Somebody is responsible for Trump. It’s all the Republican Party’s fault! Well, tell that to the RNC. It’s the media’s fault!!! It’s not their job to stop Trump. The media once wielded such power, not no more. The Internet has changed the way we communicate. It’s the low information voters’ fault!!! That is it, by jove. It’s the I Dream of Jeannie generation’s fault.
    Quote of the day
    “It is a losing proposition and politically fatal to criticize Trump supporters.”
    Too hip, got to go. You go ahead and have your Loser gabfest and wax poetic for the way things might have been. We Jethros, Andys, and Amoses are on a mission from God.
    Pulling some cold body from the loser pile? Boy, that is how you win the game. You men are a funny bunch, I will give you that.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Note to self: stop by the Loser Pile this evening and have myself a cold one.

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  29. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    Hillary sweeps up the Bernistas.
    http://i.imgur.com/Mpk5lUg.jpg

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ok, I decided to get a second opinion. Doctor said you were not only mildly obese, but unattractive as well. Nah, just horsing around. Here is my second opinion from the man who stood up to the President inside the Oval Office as an adviser. “Mr. President, you have lied to me, to us, and to the American People. You must resign. Good-bye.”
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/suicide-of-gop-or-its-rebirth/

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  31. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Tozer, question: Are you going to be one of the Angry Drumpfer Brigade in Cleveland already planning and hinting at breaking the heads of traditional GOP conservatives if your boy is denied the nomination?
    Cruz, Kasich, Ryan anyone? LOL.

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Wow, talk about projecting onto others!

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jion, Yep, if I have the money. Lately I have given all my money to Moveon.org, but they need a few hundred million more than I got to get the job done. Screw them incompetent losers. What a bunch of novices….they give professional demonstrators a bad name. So, if you want a job done right, you have to…….opps, you said bust heads of the GOP conservatives. Tomfoolery question, per your MO. Of course not. The traditional conservatives are my band of brothers and my soul mates to boot. Blood is thicker than water. Besides, Trump can do the head cracking for me. We represent the new GOP, silly boy.
    We will be united to stop Hillary, you, and those professional agitators and the assortment of bored sore losers that foolishly believed The Berner was more than a flash in the pan. Maybe they will be rioting in the streets and looting in our inner cities or doing the Occupy Wall Street thang again. Goon with the wind, we hardly got to know ya. These passing fads are interesting, but not as interesting as streaking was back in the day. Bet you still have your pet rock, eh jon?
    No busting heads. Go ahead and throw your Union goons at us, along with Soros and the Globalists. You can bust up some of our heads all day long. We can take it. We are on a Mission from God and will join hands and sing “We shall overcome” while your side is trying to hump a football for all the world to see. Jon, Jon, Jon, come to the light.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Don @ 8:20 pm. Jon is just devasted over his boy toy Pretty Rubio getting his clock cleaned. Marco got his ass whipped so bad…..how bad you ask…..so bad that he wouldn’t even consider running for the Senate again. His numbers are too low to even waste his time and effort. Toast. Only Anthony Weiner is as unelectable as Jon’s little Cuban cigar humidifier.
    Little Marco did two things wrong. First, he listened to the Establishment 6 years ago guaranteeing all the money, press, and machinery to win the nomination.
    Second, and by far a more fatal blow of annihilation to any hopes of a future political career for Marco Marco is he showed disrespect for Citizen Trump. You just don’t do that. Rubio might find a job at his Dad’s bar to tide him over.
    Take on Citizen Trump at your own peril. He don’t like anyone giving him lip, nor do us Trumpmaniacs. Hillary will be one big embarrassment when Trump decides to warm her up. Right now he is just keeping her alive before tiny chucks of her are splattered across the newscameras’ lenses day in and day out. Ah, just carry a bandana to wipe hunks of her slimy flesh off your face if you are lucky enough to get a front row seat. She won’t last two rounds.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This one is really funny. Don’t worry about a few protesters at Trumps rallies,the real danger is a RIOT at the Repub convention according to Trump himself if he gets denied the nomination. You can’t make this stuff up. this is going to hard to blame on Bernie.
    โ€œI think weโ€™ll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didnโ€™t and if weโ€™re 20 votes short or if weโ€™re 100 short and weโ€™re at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400 cause weโ€™re way ahead of everybody, I donโ€™t think you can say that we donโ€™t get it automatically,โ€ Trump said on CNN on Wednesday. โ€œI think youโ€™d have riots.โ€
    โ€œI wouldnโ€™t lead it, but I think bad things would happen,โ€ Trump said, adding the outcome would โ€œdisenfranchiseโ€ his supporters.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-16/trump-warns-of-riots-if-he-loses-nomination-with-most-delegates

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  36. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    Ted Cruz for President – revenge of the Nerd!
    http://samanthabee.com/episode/06/clip/cruz-101/

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  37. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    I went online to see if I could apply to Trump U. I guess not,
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

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  38. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    P. Emery at 10:56
    I think everyone was already aware of the statement, but it seems a fair enough thing to say. He attracts a younger crowd than you might think, and I can certainly see where you might have a bit of civil unrest at the convention if the party officials pull a fast one.
    The beautiful thing here is that it’s the very same catechism as you hear from the professional media. Choose the more likely thing that will result in violence:
    . Trump saying that there might be a riot several months from now if something heinous happens. 78 year old man throws a punch. Trump tells people ‘out out out’.
    . Umpteen large scale, bought and paid for, internet-organized demonstrations with sporadic riots. Breaking into opposition party rallies with the specific purpose to get a rise out of supporters and hopefully pick up some propaganda-ready video footage. Violent attempts to interrupt the opposition political process.
    It seems that simple common sense is turned on it’s head, but that never stopped anybody.
    You can argue that if the political Right in the US pushed back as hard as the political Left, maybe some sort of equilibrium might occur. I honestly don’t know if you’d see escalation or a backing down of bad manners writ large.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oh Don….now you’ve done it…jeffy thinks your a thexitht!

    “Memo to Don Bessee: โ€œMadame Pantsuitsโ€ beats Trump in marijuana scorecard
    Posted on March 18, 2016 by jeffpelline
    Our local anti-marijuana activist Don Bessee is one of the nastiest local activists around โ€” like so many others on our local hard right. He often attacks the person, rather than their idea.
    Bessee repeatedly refers to former U.S. Senator, former Secretary of State and presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton as โ€œMadame Pantsuitsโ€ on the hard-right blogs, such as โ€œRebaneโ€™s Ruminations.โ€ Don makes other nasty personal references to local progressives.
    โ€œMadame Pantsuitโ€ is a pejorative, immature and sexist reference to the former Secretary of State about her appearance. Don doesnโ€™t belong in a community leader role……”

    As is his way….the bleating continues for another 6 or 7 paragraphs.
    (link to a letter I sent to another one of jeffys soft-headed “progressifths” to follow shortly)

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My my my. Even on this site, Trump is sucking all the air out of the room. I wonder why the Trump haters are not talking much about My Gal or Colonel Sanders? A great mystery. Go Bernie, go!
    Don, I see you are under assault. Time for us Band of Brothers to storm the beachhead.
    Madame Pantsuits has many sides to the diamond.
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10153583128775914/?type=3&theater
    Now, My Gal is no dummie. Got to give credit where credit is due.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/810162422451130/?type=3&theater

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Thanks Fish, Note to the dark lord of liberal lament land- ITS MADAM LIAR LIAR PANTSUITS ON FIRE! But who expects the dark lord to ever get it right. When he gets in a lather and avoids the content, I know I hit the mark with the editorial. LOL ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, I can see why the Blob that Ate Nevada City would be a wee bit sensitive to poking fun at Shrillary’s appearance. Ok, let’s talk about Madam Madam Liar Liar Pantsuits appearance of being a full fledged SuperTramp…or is that SuperTwat. Love ya Little Big Man. Xxxxoooo. Butterfly kisses and hugs that can melt pounds coming at ya.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1458316559./760488910751815/?type=3&theater

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  43. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Republicans are right. There is no such thing as evolution. When you go from Lincoln to Trump in 150 years, it’s definitely going in the other direction.”-RL
    Dems have been fighting dirty for years, the GOP rabble are tired of it.
    Lincoln fought dirty, too.

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help save the Union.”
    -A. Lincoln, Aug 1862
    “…the sole object of this war is to restore the Union. Should I become convinced it has any other object, or that the Government designs its soldiers to execute the wishes of the Abolitionists, I pledge you my honor as a man and a soldier I would resign my commission and carry my sword to the other side.”
    – General U.S. Grant, letter to Chicago Tribune, 1862

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  45. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    re: Lincoln (hopefully the link makes is).
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0005.103/–lincoln-administration-and-arbitrary-arrests?rgn=main;view=fulltext
    etc. There are plenty of sources showing the reality of the Civil War era, it was pretty well documented after all.
    I don’t have any issue with the modern day canonization of Lincoln, though. Nations, which the US used to be able to claim to be, need that commonly believed mythical past. The modern tendency towards historical nihilism (except for JFK and Martin Luther King, of course) really leaves you with nothing at all.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, you need to lift your eyes a wee bit. This Republican Convention thang is no big deal. It’s just the media hype. I have zero problem with a brokered convention. Zero. We all know except a few Klingons that Mr. Trump will walk out the nominee. Sure, you didn’t see this coming either.
    But, putting this ugly scenario aside for the moment, the real real real real story going on right now is that the Dems and Libs are also starting to wake up and realize the one overriding fact in this mundane election cycle:
    No matter what happens at the R Convention and the streets of Cleveland, when all is said and down at the end of the day, you ALL are stuck with My Gal.
    You guys on the Purple Side of the street make it too easy for us bad boys.
    “You ain’t the boss of me!”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gUA4ptkooRA

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