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George Rebane

Lord Keynes famously asked a critical journalist, 'When I get new information, I change my mind.  What do you do?'  Rebane Rule – A politician 'flipping' his views is welcome only when accompanied by what new information was received when which then caused the change.

The Union has invited Ms Hilary Hodge to be their new liberal columnist.  Ms Hodge will lend her voice to the growing progressive cohort that is now escaping to the hinterlands from the metro areas they have fashioned in their own image, and which are no longer suitable places to live. (Her website here)  In her inaugural column she gives a fine account of herself emphasizing her liberal education, professional career, and that she is gay.  She has a “passion for small business” and is a fellow Rotarian with me in the Nevada City Rotary Club.  RR welcomes her and looks forward to her commentaries on “local and national economic issues, policies, and trends.”   

The Left’s propaganda about Congress being in “gridlock” continues on all fronts – most recently in county clerk-recorder/registrar Greg Diaz’s column in the 8mar16 Union.  The informed reader knows that is not true.  The federal government is in a polarized gridlock because the administration has a demonstrated socialist agenda that prevents the passage of legislation from a majority Republican Congress.  Congress is doing just fine, but the leftwing lamestream continues the steady drumbeat that only the GOP are the obstructionists – the sound of the one hand clapping.

The cover-up of intelligence from the Central Command (Pentagon’s Mideast military) is another Obama scandal in waiting that our exciting election histrionics have put on the back burner.  It turns out that on-the-ground intel analysts in Afghanistan report that their dire findings have been ‘sanitized’ by the Pentagon to provide the administration with appropriate political cover during this election year.  This is one of the many reprehensible after effects of Obama’s purge of uncooperative flag officers during his tenure in office.  Autocrats (cum tyrants) – e.g. Stalin and Hitler – have always had their toadies tailor news from the front to be more palatable in order to avoid early ‘retirement’ in its various forms.

Universal gun registration – to track the movement of firearms – has always been gun control’s preamble to gun confiscation by government central planners.  Such programs are successful to the extent that populations are ignorant.  In America (see also RR comment streams) well-rehearsed progressive peans of denial are heard every time Second Amendment proponents point out another incidence of such confiscation accomplished or in the offing – see Canada’s recent experience (here).

In ‘Transformation of Economics’ University of Ohio economics professor Richard Vedder argues that in America economics has morphed into “political economics” along these major lines –

• Diminishing returns to research.
• Economics as ideology in camouflage.
• A disconnect between economic reality and public policy
• The rise of the nonuniversity research centers
• A major cause of America’s economic malaise: the government’s war on work

This insightful read concludes with – One reason living standards in the U.S. have stagnated: There were 12.7 million fewer Americans working in January than there would have been with the 2000 employment-population ratio. Disability insurance claims have roughly tripled in the past generation (despite greater inherent workplace safety because of the declining relative importance of manufacturing and mining); government-subsidized student loans and grants have lured younger Americans away from work; extended unemployment benefits prolonged unemployment; and food stamps now go to nearly 30 million more Americans than 15 years ago. The government has provided much more income that is only available if people do not work. So fewer do. As Charles Murray has noted, this phenomenon has contributed to declining social cohesion and arguably even largely explains Donald Trump’s electoral success.

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41 responses to “Ruminations – 8mar16”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    The military is not the only government toadies twisting the facts to fit the bosses view of the world. The folks at NOAA prepared a report that the global warming pause was over that President Obama could carry to the UN Climate Change Conference in Paris. According to Award-winning physicist William Happer:
    “On June 26, 2015, the influential journal Science published “Possible Artifacts of Data Biases in the Recent Global Surface Temperature Warming Hiatus,” a paper co-authored by Thomas R. Karl, director of NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information. The paper announced remarkable findings: Karl and his co-authors assessed “the observational evidence related to a ‘hiatus’ in recent global surface warming” and concluded the evidence did not “support the notion of a ‘slowdown’ in the increase of global surface temperature.” This claim conflicts with the previous findings of many organizations worldwide, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”
    With great fanfare at the time of publication, NOAA issued a press release stating Karl and his co-authors “[refuted] the notion that there has been a slowdown or ‘hiatus’ in the rate of global warming in recent years.” NOAA stated the work had been carried out by a “team of scientists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) and [the private consulting group] LMI using the latest global surface temperature data.”

    It appears that NOAA’s R.I.P. announcement for the hiatus violated the Data Quality Act of 2001 (DQA), as was pointed out by more than 300 expert signers in a letter delivered to the U.S. House Committee on Science, Space and Technology on January 28, 2016.
    Dr Happer concludes:
    “Satellite records continue to show the existence of a pronounced warming hiatus, with temperature peaks occurring every four or five years from El Niños, similar to the one in 2015, with cooling during subsequent La Niñas. A campaign to discredit the politically incorrect satellite data has recently begun. Slick, costly videos, congressional posturing, and many other propaganda tools have been unleashed to persuade the scientifically illiterate to ignore the satellite records.”
    “Temperatures inferred from satellite radiometers agree extremely well with measurements of the same atmospheric layers taken with thermometers in weather balloons. Thermal microwave radiation is measured by satellites to determine atmospheric temperature in much the same way as infrared radiation from a patient’s ear is measured in modern hospitals to determine the patient’s temperature. Satellite temperature measurements are the gold standard, and they should have been part of the external peer-review process of the paper by Karl, et al., which is mandated by the DQA.”

    More proof that government toadies are more than willing to distort the data to fit the bosses needs.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    Re RussS 250pm – For the interested reader, the debate about the global temp hiatus would be resolved were the rent-seeking Left to agree to a uniform data handling process and a common temperature filter (estimation algorithm) that outputs a commonly accepted ‘earth’s temperature’. The reason those sleazebags will never agree to arriving at such uniform protocols is that their patently political agenda would be exposed during the negotiations toward adopting such uniform protocols. The sleazebags want to bamboozle the gruberized masses and politicians so that no one either knows or agrees on what is the earth’s temperature record. This leaves the vox populi wisdom to follow the winds of the loudest voices continuing to argue their faux ‘consensus’. And the lamestream is already in the bag for the climate alarmists.

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  3. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Mother Earth is running the experiment in her own time, and time will tell if the hiatus continues, ends with all that warming said to be in the pipeline (whose location remains a matter of speculation but always where they don’t have data), or ends with a falling of temperatures. Those of us who have subscribed to solar magnetic effects modulating cloud cover being the missing piece of the puzzle expect the current slide of Solar Cycle 24 into what is expected by many solar scientists to be a Maunderish Minimum for Cycle 25 and beyond will be a cold period lasting some number of decades.
    Time will tell. In the meantime, the El Nino temperature spike has been expected, so has the full court press by alarmists who always confuse weather with climate when the weather is warm been expected.

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  4. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    And, while we are waiting for the cooling Obama is funding UN pipedreams:
    Obama administration pays out $500m to UN climate change project
    The first chunk of a $3bn commitment made at the Paris climate talks ‘shows the US stands squarely behind climate commitments’, the State Department said
    The Obama administration has made a first installment on its $3bn pledge to help poor countries fight climate change – defying Republican opposition to the president’s environmental plan.
    The $500m payment to the Green Climate Fund was seen as critical to shoring up international confidence in Barack Obama’s ability to deliver on the pledges made at the United Nations’ climate change conference in Paris in late 2015.

    Administration officials said the initial $500m payment to the Green Climate Fund demonstrated that Obama would follow through on the promises of last December’s Paris climate agreement – despite February’s setback at the supreme court and threats by Republican presidential candidates to dismantle Obama’s agenda.
    “Today, the United States provided a $500m grant to the Green Climate Fund,” a state department official said. “This grant is the first step toward meeting the president’s commitment of $3bn to the GCF, and shows that the United States stands squarely behind our international climate commitments.”

    Dictators across the globe are rubbing their hands with glee. The US is funding their secret green slush funds.

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  5. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    The California Exodus Accelerates
    The parent company of Carl’s Jr., founded in Anaheim 60 years ago, is relocating its California headquarters to Nashville, Tenn.
    Carpinteria-based CKE Restaurants, which also owns St. Louis-based Hardee’s, is consolidating both offices in Tennessee, where it has several company-owned restaurants. All senior executives, including Chief Executive Andrew F. Puzder will be moving to Nashville, Chief Marketing Officer Brad Haley said.

    Tennessee has no state income tax? Expect more of this over the next few years.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/03/the-california-exodus-accelerates.php

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    RussS 815am – Good pick-up. Californians will continue to be ignorant of this exodus as long as the lamestream media remain in the hip pocket of the progressives. The state’s Left continues to deny this out of pure cynicism that puts their ideology ahead of people’s welfare. The only deniers who are ignorant of this ongoing exodus are the local lefties, like those who reside in Nevada County and whose thoughts on the matter often find their way into RR comment streams.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Here’s one for you ad the Repub muddle is probably responsible. Obama has risen 14% since mid November in the Fox poll. In general Obama is doing really well in the polls for the last year of a two term Presidency.
    CNN/ORC
    50 46 4
    2/24-27/16
    Fox RV
    49 47 2
    2/15-17/16
    NBC/Wall St. Journal RV
    49 47 2
    2/14-16/16
    CBS
    47 45 2
    2/12-16/16

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Make that up 16 since Nov on the Fox poll.
    Fox RV
    40 54 – 14
    11/16-19/15
    Fox RV
    49 47 2
    2/15-17/16

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, Who cares?
    Gary Johnson polling ZERO chance at election. Yep, you are too smart for us.

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    paulE 1226pm – Well then, provided she stays out of jail and since the American voter so loved Obama to elect him twice, your candidate Hillary is on a glide path to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
    (At this point you usually tell us that you’re neither Dem nor Repub, but that continues to ring hollow given the candidates and causes you reliably celebrate.)

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 March 2016 at 12:22 PM
    In general Obama is doing really well in the polls for the last year of a two term Presidency.

    Yeah I enjoyed the band that played on the deck as the Titanic slid under the water too.

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  12. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd 12:47, yes, correct, Paul is smarter than you on this topic. Who cares? Every GOP and Dem politico honcho cares very much Obama’s approval rating right now, and it alters the strategic planning of a campaign. Historical data shows a tangible impact on the results. He broke 50% last week in Rasmussen, and his chart is trending up right now. So thanks for asking.

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Easy come, easy go. Obama is mostly out of the news at the moment, though the apparently crashing and burning nuke agreement with Iran might muddy his waters.
    BTW who in the local blogosphere would profess to know what all the politico honchos are thinking?

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Gregory, only the hand supporting the ‘jon’. Unfortunately for the ‘jons’ premise the young and young ethnic voters are going for comrade Bernie not madam liar liar pants on fire. They don’t like her and have no enthusiasm which in that demographic equates to them staying home worrying about micro aggressions of the moment. 😉

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  15. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    not sure Greg. Who do you think? My knowledge comes from a family deeply involved in the political machinery as a kid. Hay, at least it got me photos with the US Senator, the Governor and such. Far from CA…I was merely imagining life on a beach in Malibu back then.

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So the ‘jon’ admits it was just more of his bs that he thinks sounds good.

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  17. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    ..say what Don?… Don’t think the pols for the candidates aren’t tracking the Obama approval ratings? LOL.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    How long did you wait in line to get that photo “jon”?
    So you got a meet and great. Big deal. I had an invite to Reagan’s inauguration.( Well Dad did,,for the whole family of course) As Gov. he came to our house more than once.
    Dad was a big wheel in the GOP machinery.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dear old Dad. Governor Reagen liked my dad so much that each time he came to town he specifically asked for him, and him only to pal around….er….be his body guard and drive him around. Dad had bags of jelly beans he hid in the closets so us eats would not rot our teeth out. Unfortunately for us kids when we finally found the stash after Mom sold the home, the jelly beans had slowly turned into rock candy without the candy part
    . And a Presidential Seal tie tack from VP Jerry Ford. That got lost. Do wish I had some of those Whip Inflation Now (WIN) buttons, but I heard the Dems stole the lot of them and walked around with Ford’s WIN buttons as the Peanut Farmer was getting the Big Mo rolling. Oh, those silly Establishment types. Congress had more fun back then.
    So there!

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    Well, the Rebanes were political no counts with no great stories to tell – we didn’t know anyone important and they didn’t know us. The only Reagan story we can tell is that his helicopter flew very low over our house in the Santa Monica mountains when he travelled from LAX to his Santa Barbara ranch. Since we were Reagan fans, Jo Ann kept urging me to write the President and invite him to land next to our house for coffee and doughnuts or even a snort. Never got around to it, so the only thing we got from the president was the fuel residue on our patio furniture when Marine One regularly buzzed us. Memories are made of this.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jon is right and so is Gregory. On the left, they follow Obama’s numbers breathlessly daily. They got it all figured out. Computer says (after adding boatloads of data about us voters) that My Gal needs O’s numbers to be positive for her to sit down and bonk her head on that Oval Office desk she has in storage outside Little Rock. That’s the facts. They have been waiting a long time for O’s numbers to move in the right direction and finally…..drumroll please…..Obama is at 50% and rising a touch!!!! Champagne cork popping time. Unfortunately for Brothers Paul and Jon, if they read the printout, it says O’s numbers need to hit 55% for My Gal to be a shoo in.
    Read them and weep.
    Gregory is also spot on. It’s March, nothing has been happening since New Year’s. No terrorist attacks, economy still bouncing along the bottom with some green sprouts, no war news from Arab Land (that is a Spring time thing when troops gather for battle), refugees in Europe is their problem not ours, no one going to jail, no riots in the streets (that is a summertime sport)….its been pretty quiet and in all. Paris went ok and nobody is shutting down the government this week. His number better hit 50% as time heals all wounds.
    Unfortunately for both My Gal and President Obama, Trump hadn’t turned his Gatlin Gun in their direction yet. Late April, May, and June is the time for making nice and unifying on The Right with a rejuvenated Bernie forcing My Gal’s to devote wasted time, energy, money and Bill’s stress level into July as Betnie is taking his time on his slow death march into Loser status. Trump will not play nice with either Hillary or Barry and I can’t wait to hear how unPresidential he becomes. Shocking. I bet Trump will be a real asshole….opps, butthole. Sorry.

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  22. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Just remember, run the numbers for the General, Mr.T! And best wishes when you try to sell that angry snakeoil to normal Americans.:)

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George, how did you get the idea I support Hillary? “your candidate” you write. I’m for Gary Johnson all the way. As an observer of the news I sense a Demo surge this fall and Obama’s rise in the polls is just an indicator of the general concern for the direction of the Republica party especially with the upcoming selection of Trump as their candidate. There will likely be significant crossover to the Dems from middle of the road Repubs who are being ignored by their party. I love the rise of populism though. Bernie is defiantly arousing that instinct on the left and is proving to be more than a sparing partner for the establishment Dems.
    As an observer, the whole spectacle is defiantly entertaining with more thrills to come

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  24. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Hey Walt, that’s right. GOP Politics when the GOP had more than one sane candidate for President. Hay, we even got my entire 4th grade class a half-hour meeting with our Governor in his office. A name from way back east (without any tangible accomplishments to be honest) :). I would even describe him as one of the first ECO Repubs. A RHINO in today’s right wing jargon. No resemblance to GOP wackjobs of today.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Jon, I was only talking numbers for The General..that is a given. In the primaries, O’s numbers mean nothing on the Right, and not much to Dems and Socialists on the Left. But, nice retort. Wrong, but nice to see ya in a fighting mood. Now, once again, read ’em and weep. O’s numbers ain’t going to skyrocket between here and Nov 8th in The General Election, Too many variables, even excluding whatever Trump utters.
    Yo, Jon, you know what? You are aware that both sides are irked not because of broken promises in the not too distant pass. Nope. Those angry bitter types on the left and right are fed up with how we are being governed now. Like today. 55% is the magic number. But, hope burns eternal, so let’s rumble! Go Obama go! You da man.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps, never underestimate the Clintons, ever. It’s slime the FBI director time. Oh goody. Any fool that knows My Gal and DNC Debbie have been waiting for this:
    http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/272290-comeys-fbi-makes-waves
    What a strange trip is been.

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE705pm – Right on schedule. I explained it my 1256pm, you have a record of years on these pages celebrating the progress of leftwing causes and candidates from the claimed perch of being some sort of neutral observer. You are not, since there is no record of your celebrating any gains of the conservatarian strain. Most so-called middle roaders are socialists in disguise hoping they wouldn’t be called upon to justify the insanities and inanities of the Left while hoping that the magical sunrise of socialism will arrive. The truth will out were you or any of you to ever to post your credos. But that you will never do.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Talkng about moving numbers, this is neither earth shaking nor surprising. Only 13-20 percent, not the end of the world. But, movement against PC nonetheless. Some over there are even breaking the law just to speak their minds. We have it sooo easy over here. But, like us in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, most of these free speech issues are self inflicted. Needlessly self inflicted.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/world/europe/germanys-embrace-of-migrants-spawns-rise-of-far-right-leader.html?_r=0

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I am so glad you came back! And before Mommie read you your bedtime story. Amazing. That’s incredible, jonnie.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1457585400./806311626169543/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/806285486172157/?type=3&theater
    We will give My Gal the night off. Now, let’s slam the Great Right Wing Conspiracy!!!

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  30. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    You are onto something Tozer. Obama will indeed go down as one of the greatest American Presidents, and will end up his term over 50% approval.
    Not bad, not bad at all! The future yet unknown, Hillary or Bernie 🙂 Either one beats your boy easily.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jon. The future is pretty certain on the looney left. It’s Hillary. Your establishment machine is purring along just fine. Senator Sanders could run the table from here on out and still lose. That’s the rules you guys play by. Nothing to do with fairness nor sharing and caring.
    The fix is in, as always, on the left. Bernie knows it, but you gotta give him credit for “starting a movement” that will continue long after his passing. His legacy. He is just leading his children around in the wilderness. He just won’t be around long enough to step foot in the promised land. It’s Hillary, even if indicted. That is the party of the Left and getting more corrupt and extreme and intolerant of opposing thoughts by the day. Sad, but true, like looking at tiny rowboat.
    Rebuttal time from your delightful 7:00 pm. “Mr.T! And best wishes when you try to sell that angry snakeoil to normal Americans.:)”
    Oh Jon, you guys have made it too simple. Don’t have to sell nothing to normal Americans. (BTW, the term “Americans” is problematic according to the new Democrat Party run State Department speech guidelines/thought police. Also very problematic is the phrase “best qualified for the job”. Americans does not include Canadians and Mexicans, which of course are Ameticans from the Americas. Oh, this was a fun digression into the wacky insane asylum of “abnormal Americans”
    Ok, we don’t need to sell nothing. All we have to do is beat Hillary. Way too simple. We don’t even have to like Trump in the least. No sales job, no pretty gift wrap either. Just beat Hillary. You guys printed our the roadmap in 10 foot letters. No dealing with normal Americans. Just beat My Gal, a tough old bird. Simple, but not easy. Very, very simple.
    No selling neccessary when dealing with normal folks. Go ahead, you sell them on why “best qualified for the job” is a hideous utterance to be barred in public service because it does not take into account the historical inherent oppressive unfairness of White Privilege. Go ahead, Jon, peddle your snake oil in the pretty bottle. Normal Americans won’t be swayed. They just have to want Hillary off the list. They have dignity. Thats all. Some things sell themselves. Simplicity is best.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Obama will indeed go down as one of the greatest American Presidents, and will end up his term over 50% approval.
    Not bad, not bad at all! The future yet unknown, Hillary or Bernie 🙂 Either one beats your boy easily.

    “HopyChangium™ – Helping white people deal with their guilt chemically for almost 8 years now”
    Let’s ask HopyChangium™ spokesmodel Chris “Tingles” Matthews what he thinks.
    “Best thing I ever did….all it did was cost me my credibility, a few IQ points, some minor anal leakage and an inability to control my use of the sideways smiley face emoticon”

    Modern pharmaceuticals can be truly miraculous. I’m glad you’re feeling better jon.

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  33. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    George@9:23
    Carl’s Jr. HQ Moving From Calif. to Nashville; Press Avoids Saying Why.
    “Why did management clearly choose to go elsewhere? Among other things, [Andrew F. Puzder, the CEO of CKE Restaurants, the parent company of the Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s fast-food chains] told the Journal in 2013 that the Golden State’s labor laws are intolerable.”
    Why is the press not saying why they are leaving? Think of the press as just Democrats with a byline, and the answer is easier to grok. If the press does not report the reason for the business departures it is hard for the low information types to understand the long-term consequences.

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    RussS 1136am – Exactly. That is part of the progressive disease that is sweeping the country. The last thing the lamestream wants the low info types to understand is anything that explains the deficits that collectivist governance causes in their lives. That role is reserved for Republicans and others of conservative (aka “fascist”) mien.

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  35. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Russ 11:36- This consolidation process was announced over two years ago. CKE owns both Hardee’s which is based in St. Louis and Carl’s Jr which is based in Carpinteria. HKE has slowly converted most of it’s restaurants to franchise operations and is now in the process of consolidating its management to Nashville where it has retained corporate ownership of a hub of restaurants and motels. Most of its food processing and distribution has been centered in Nashville for years. Regardless of where CKE moves it’s management it will in no way circumvent labor laws with it’s California franchises.

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    re jons 153pm – what Mr smith doesn’t tell us is 1) the consolidation decision did not initially include moving their headquarters, and, more importantly, the ‘locus’ of the corporation is now longer in CA and not subject to CA taxes and fees levied on companies headquartered in the state. As with the lamestream, the local lefties also are induced to put lipstick on this pig. The bottom line is that the corporate exodus continues with all companies seeking minimal relations with CA that will still support their ability to sell here.

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My niece’s husband works for a very successful tech company. He has to fly to Ireland twice a year. I asked the young prodigy whatz up in Ireland? He said he had to go to board “meetings” twice a year because that is where the Silicon Valley home grown company moved its HQ. I asked him why (knowing the answer), but asked just to hear his response. He rolled his eyes and asked “Are you kidding me?” I played dumb and it was because of CA’s business policies. If the US corporate tax rate ever gets off the top rate in the civilized world, he would prefer to fly domestically….anywhere but CA. Sad, very sad.
    Not all uneducated barbarians such as moi are blind to the disconnect between economics and public policy or ideology camouflaged as economics.
    We have a dirty little secret:
    http://news.yahoo.com/ohios-dirty-little-secret-blue-collar-democrats-trump-110445523.html?nf=1

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 433pm – Mr Tozer, you utter truths utterly unknown and foreign to our gruberized half of the electorate.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George I guess it’s save to assume the ungruberized half of the electorate is going to be responsible for the nomination of Donald Trump to be President of the United States.

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1143am – Huh?

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