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Today The Union published the following letter as the latest chapter in what appears to be an ongoing dialogue between Dr Paul D. Hauck and me.  The exchange started with his reading of my Other Voices column ‘Swansong from an Alternate Universe’ (and here), to which he responded with his own OV piece – ‘An Alternative Alternate Universe’.  My response (here) to that was immediate.  Then letters to the editor ensued.

Paul Hauck: George Rebane partially responsible for today’s polarized state (7 March 2016)

If Dr. Rebane felt criticized via innuendo by my article, I apologize. Quite honestly, my article was not even about him or his Other Voices piece.

It was my attempt to share an insight I had regarding my small role in our nation’s dividedness.

He was generous enough to invite me into dialogue on his Rebane’s Ruminations page so I visited it for the first time. On it I found his musings about … me. From only two data points, gleaned via Google and inaccurate at that, he constructs an entirely fictional and disdain-worthy caricature of me. Readers should visit his site because I think it is highly illustrative of the point of my column.

Dr. Rebane would lay responsibility for our polarized state on the shoulders of the president. I would suggest that politicians merely reflect the populations they serve. When we, individually, continue to mock or demonize those with differing opinions, assume evil intent, and unnecessarily pose enemies, we cannot expect a more civil national dialogue than we have now.

My article was an attempt to take responsibility for my small part in this process. For me, it is a worthwhile self-examination. And, yes, Lent is a season perfectly suited for it.

Paul Hauck, PhD
Penn Valley

Off the starting blocks, the letter is more than a bit mind boggling.  His opening statement – Quite honestly, my article was not even about him or his Other Voices piece. -  is a stunning piece of prevarication since at least three out of every four paragraphs in his ‘An Alternative Alternate Universe’ (note even the title) OV piece are about me and the thesis of my above cited original OV piece.  His claim of my having constructed “an entirely fictional and disdain-worthy caricature of me” is false on the face of it, as can be verified by anyone googling the man’s vitae published on the web.  If any of that is wrong, he should have set the record straight; an effort that I still hope he will undertake so that we may know with what kind of scientist we are talking.

His claim of being a “clear writer” is called to question when he states that his “article was an attempt to take responsibility for (his) small part in this (polarization) process.”  Such a mea culpa could have been accomplished with a brief reference to my original OV piece as an exemplar, and then a lengthier analysis of the perceptual and expressed missteps about our country's divisiveness from which he also claims to suffer.  His piece reversed the emphases and thereby garnered interest through an extensive critique of what I had written.

In sum, I’m disappointed that Dr Hauck does not want to debate the issues of national polarization, climate change, and mideast policy about which he tells us he has a deep and objective understanding.  I have responded to his letter here, and am not sure that any further response in The Union would be productive.  I will wait to see if his 7mar16 letter puts the matter to rest or not.  Meanwhile, the reader is invited to inform himself through the above links to the published record.

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19 responses to “Dr Hauck Responds – for the record”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Libs are cowards. And they are hit and run types. You clearly made your points well. He is not that bright.

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  2. Robert Cross Avatar
    Robert Cross

    “He is not that bright.” — the teapot calling the kettle black.
    “I’m disappointed that Dr Hauck does not want to debate the issues” ,–Seriously? According to Dr. Hauck, you invited him to debate here at RR. Doesn’t that give you a “home field advantage,” especially considering that anyone who attempts to “debate” issues on this blog gets subjected to a world of “toddisms” like “Libs are cowards” or “lib holes” etc. from your posse. Such stupid characterizations are not conducive to debate but intimidation that seeks to end any rational debate (probably because those who offer such drivel aren’t capable of thinking at the higher level that real debate requires). Yet, if you get no response you and yours will surely claim victory by virtue of the crickets. So, don’t hold your breath or, in Todd’s case, don’t hold your “breathe” waiting for a response.

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    RobertC 1040am – “home field advantage”?? Apparently you did not read the preamble to this post Mr Cross. The kind of debate to which I invited Dr Hauck cannot have such an advantage of venue. It would be a contention of ideas that he would in his turn and according to his propensity post as bylines on RR. His words would not be buried in a comment stream among those from his supporters and critics. And should he not wish to so engage, there can be no declaration of “victory” by me or anyone else since the exposition of contending ideas did not take place.
    Yes, there are some fairly brash commenters on RR, but that is a price I pay for running an open blog. And of the now 70K+ comments which RR records, it would be a serious oversight for you to dismiss the insights and ideas that my commenters have offered that are sometimes also home to some crude ad hominems. But do you not find it odd that none of your persuasion comes here to complain about, or at least acknowledge, the reciprocations which decorate some other closely gatekept leftwing blogs on which only politically correct thoughts may be expressed?

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  4. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    I know it was early, but when I logged into the Union Opinion page and read the Dr. Huack letter early this morning, I remember five comments, one from Todd. When I went back to re-read the comments and post my comment, the comments were zero. All five comments were gone. Where did they go? Why are they missing?

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Mr. Cross i a[[ears to be the typical liberal whiner. Oh my, we can’t debate since we are so afraid. Jeeze. Cross is a perfect foil for why America is split. He objects to name calling and then he name calls. People see it and mock him. What a hoot.

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Russ Steele | 07 March 2016 at 12:56 PM
    All five comments were gone. Where did they go? Why are they missing?

    Perhaps jeffy is back at the helm?

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    re RobertC’s 1040am – Upon further reflection, for the sake of consistency I have to concede that Mr Cross has a valid point about how the tenor of RR comment streams can be improved. Whether such improvement actually invites more commenters is a plausible conjecture that comes without a guarantee. Readers know of my years cajoling some of the more outspoken commenters here to revert to a more churchillian approach to selecting appellations of writers with whom they disagree. (I continue to assume that their lexicons offer a more generous inventory of heretofore rejected alternatives.) Nevertheless, that effort has borne little fruit, and ruminating on those failures inevitably brings to mind the story of the ill-fated river crossing by the frog and the scorpion.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 March 2016 at 01:50 PM
    I don’t know George…..my first thought upon seeing Mr. Cross screed this morning was thinking, “A call for civility, the last refuge of the scoundrel”. The right didn’t start petty bickering online the left did…..an Alinskyite tell like no other.
    They only started calling for decorum when we got better at it than they!

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 209pm – That may well be, but since we always outdo them in the arena of ideas, must we also claim to better them in casting crude ad hominems? Give them quarter, and let there be someplace in such debates wherein they can revel and take their ease.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 March 2016 at 02:18 PM
    This …..and I mean blogs in general…..is a poor venue for “outdo(ing) them in the area of ideas”. You’ve been presenting, in my estimation, reasonable fact based arguments for the two or so years I’ve been frequenting your space and as near as I can tell the only acknowledgement for your efforts is to have a third rate “begging bowl” shaker like Steve Frisch call you “A master propagandist who learned at the feet of Goebbels himself” or accuse you of things like, “they are so very angry and acting out in nativist, racist, misogynist and homophobic rhetoric”. (I paraphrase but the sentiment is accurate). There have been other slanders but Frisch is the only one who merits notice. The others aren’t worthy of mention. Pelline….. little more than a fat gadfly.
    If you and Dr. Hauck want to conduct something resembling a debate I’m happy to shut up and watch.

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 237pm – I understand. But should that improbable debate occur, your (and others’) role will not be “to shut up and watch”, but to dive in with vigor.

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 March 2016 at 02:46 PM
    For something approximating a debate environment it would be wholly inappropriate to “gang tackle” the guy. If you don’t want to do it (a perfectly reasonable position) see if Gregory is interested.

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I have no idea what the 3:08 is asking of me… though I am getting the Other Voices itch a’gin.

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Mr. Cross must not read his pal Pelline’s blog. You get ten times or more posters and viewers than Pelline’s cesspool. Why do you think that is the case? Because you allow all sides to yap here and yes, some of us are a bit faster at returning fire in overwhelming numbers. You can also read Cross’s diss using the internet link of my blog as if I care. Yes there is a “e” on the link but not on the blog. Yet Pelline is constantly using that as a slam (even though he misspells often). My guess is Cross is the same dolt.
    Anyway, reading the lib blogs is a truly boring and painful piece of work. This blog is fun and you are simply very informative. Bring on the debate!

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 308pm – As I said in my 1111am invitation, Dr Hauck would contribute his ripostes as his bylines on RR. His and my posts would be followed by their usual comment streams. There is no need for any kind of moderation per se for such an exchange. And Mr Cross worries needlessly about “home turf” since RR does not censor dissenting views thereby inviting all to participate.

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  16. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    Dunno what the argument is about, with apologies to Ms. Stein, there’s no there there.
    The ‘Alternative Alternative’ article I just read seems to say, in quite a few words:
    . It’s not true that Obama created an increase in modern social divisions (or all of the increase, I’m not sure).
    . I’m some sort of scientist and an excellent writer
    . I shouldn’t write a real article because of the bad karma that would result
    Personally, I tend to view Obama as more symptom than cause, but it’s easy to see that fully weasel-worded statements (President Obama, who is currently but wasn’t always President, has caused a certain amount of social division in some places at some times, but it’s difficult to measure this rather difficult to measure thing) simply don’t parse all that well. I’m afraid that a certain amount of absolutistic wording (h/t for the word) is necessary in editorial writing.
    No doubt Paul Hauck PhD will get over it, nobody called his dog ugly, but I’d hate to feel like he is scared off. Alternative opinions, at least something with more oomph than a coprolaliac bon mot, make everyone hone their own view.

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, at least we all wave to the mail carrier. That’s a start. If a certain term that is used here exclusively by moi is a stumbling block to constructive dialogue and a free flowing exchange of ideas like it once practiced at expensive institutions of higher learning, I will gladly oblige and say things without using a accurate, yet derogatory noun. Long sentence to say I will behave myself and spit fire over in the Sandbox when the urge arises.
    Geez, I hate being a slave to restrain and even more so self discipline.. Later.

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