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George Rebane

Today’s Union published a front page report (here) on the latest phase of “outrage” from the pro-grow faction in Nevada County.  According to the report, the latest to be outraged is the father of an eight-year-old boy with “intractable epilepsy” who is being helped by imbibing MMJ in some unknown form.  In any event, the boy’s father, a Mr Hurd, apparently has grown MMJ outside and prepared his son’s medicine from the plant.  He wants to continue doing that and seeks either an exemption from or the defeat of Measure W that would ban outside grows in the county.  In the near term (tomorrow) he will argue in Superior Court to have the measure removed from the June ballot.  And then on these pages all hell broke loose.

The impetus for those incensed was a 27feb16 email blast from Ms Deborah Wilder, NC Republican Party chair exhorting its members to support Measure W and communicate the same to the county’s BoS.  The text of that email appears below –

Our Board of Supervisors has empowered the voters to make a choice on Measure W in the June election which would ban outdoor marijuana growing.  The commercial growers are using an unfortunate child as a publicity stunt to ask the Board of Supervisors to create an exception and allow for outdoor growing of marijuana.  Measure W does not prevent those who medically need marijuana from growing it indoors i.e. a shed, garage or hot house.  Please support our Board of Supervisors by emailing them and letting them know that you support putting Measure W on the ballot with no exceptions.  They need to hear from you this week.

Sample email: “I support Measure W as originally passed by the Board of Supervisors.  Please send Measure W to the voters in the June primary without any changes or exceptions.”  (The appended list of five supervisors with their email addresses is omitted.)

Through some means this email reached Mr Hurd (not on the mailing list) who took umbrage at his son being referred to as an “unfortunate child”, and the pro-grow folks’ – primarily Americans for Safe Access (ASA) headed locally by Ms Patricia Smith – use of this child’s illness as a cause celebre to oppose passage of Measure W in June.  Ms Wilder had the temerity to refer to this specific response as a “publicity stunt” which further agitated Mr Hurd.

In any event, that’s where things stood until today when RR reader Ms Patricia Smith entered the fray in RR’s ‘Sandbox – 27feb16’ comment stream in an exchange with Mr Scott Obermuller (worth reading in its own right).  Without dissecting the where and whyfors of that exchange, Ms Smith introduced some new aspects into this incident.  She cited a 1 ½ -year-old Penn Valley girl who had died of epilepsy in January, claiming that “this child died because her parents were worried their supply of MMJ would be cut off mid-treatment so they were waiting for a clinical trial to start.”  It’s a bit more than confusing as to what the little girl’s parents actually did and why.  No further citation to expand or confirm this death was provided, nor was it made clear how this death was connected to Measure W which would not be announced until February.

Instead, Ms Smith, apparently speaking for the ASA, then leveled a most confusing blast against the NC Republican Women Federated, an organization that has yet to declare its position on Measure W.  The text of her most recent repartee to Mr Obermuller under the cited sandbox appears below.

This child died because her parents were worried their supply of MMJ would be cut off mid-treatment so they were waiting for a clinical trial to start. The point is Scott, children that are already using MMJ will have their supply cut off and yes, they are in danger of dying according to their doctors (But I suppose you know more than they do???). Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Can you imagine the outrage if ONE child got into their parents stash and died (not that that is possible)? Why don't you have the same outrage over allowing one child to die from LACK of medicine?? Seems kinda hypocritical to me. And don't get me started on the despicable email sent out by the Republican Women's Federated. Unbelievable those women are mothers. Shameful.

To this Ms Linda Erdmann, NCRWF president replied –

Ms. Smith, Please get your facts straight. The email to which you refer was not sent out by Nevada County Republican Women Federated. Your apology will be accepted should it be offered.
 
To date it’s hard to conclude anything other than that the opponents of Measure W are radiating more heat than light on the matter.

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39 responses to “Measure W – MMJ Confusion and Hysteria”

  1. Patricia Smith Avatar

    I do apologize to the Women’s Federated as I was under the impression that was the organization Ms. Wilder represented. I guess it’s worse than I thought as she represents the entire Party. This distinction seems like a weak attempt to deflect the nastiness of the email by disputing which arm of the Republican Party it came from. I am still aghast at the callousness displayed in that email and feel Ms Wilder is the one who owes the Hurd’s an apology.
    George, I don’t know what is confusing to you about the death of the child in Penn Valley. She passed from epilepsy. We all knew that the ban was forthcoming so her parents chose to not start a therapy they couldn’t rely to continue, hoping against hope, that Western medicine would have some answers for them. Her parents are still grieving so I am trying to keep their identity private until they are ready to come out (which they plan to do at some point). Please respect their privacy until then.
    George, you also got some facts very wrong. Forrest does not grow any cannabis for Silas. They do not have the means and they live in a R-zone. My collective has supplied Silas with his medications for several years now at no cost to the family. We can only do this because so many compassionate cultivators have donated material to make his meds – which is necesaary because Silas’s condition makes any medication ineffective after several months so we constantly have to try new varieties for him. (It’s quite complex and would take way too much space to adequately address.)
    Silas was given a death sentence already by his doctors. MMJ is the only thing keeping him alive. What would you do to save the life of your child or grandchild? This is what we have been fighting for and all of you who try to diminish our work are using children as pawns in your political games.
    I’ve asked this before to crickets: Imagine the outcry if ONE child got into their parents stash and died (not that that is possible)? Why isn’t there the same outrage over children who could die from LACK of medicine?

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    PatriciaS 518pm – Nothing “confused” me about the January death you reported. All I said was that there was no other confirmation of something that should have made headlines in January if it occurred as you reported.
    And I quoted nothing as “facts” when I used the word ‘apparently’ in surmising Mr Hurd’s efforts from what the Union had published. Bringing in a third party grower/processor comes from privileged information of which I or any other Union reader would not have.
    Your loosey-goosey usage of English is not serving your cause. But in sum, I ask again for the numbers of all those users whose health is dependent on the ready availability of MMJ grown in Nevada County.

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  3. Patricia Smith Avatar

    George, asking me to state “how many users health is dependent on the ready availability of MMJ gorwn in Nevada Co is a BS request that you and others always fall back on when you don’t have a valid point to counter my claims. It’s akin to me asking you how many people are alcoholics in Nevada County? There simply isn’t any data to validate either.
    I know my little collective services over a hundred people and there are many more collectives doing the same. I know that Highland Springs Wellness has many thousands (5,000 – 7,000) patients. I know they are only one of several MMJ doctors in town, so that number is considerably higher. How many of them are terminal, I have no idea – but even one is enough in my book. If one has the power to do something and doesn’t, what does that say about the person?
    BTW, your words: It’s a bit more than “confusing” as to what the little girl’s parents actually did and why. No further citation to expand or confirm this death was provided, nor was it made clear how this death was connected to Measure W which would not be announced until February. I think I addressed your “confusion” in my 5:18 response.

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    PatriciaS 610pm – no one is questioning your dedication to your (ASA’s) cause. Your responses to queries for real data that frame the problems you raise are less than satisfactory. They mainly consist of assertions ‘It’s serious because I and XX say it’s serious.’ That’s the basis for making public policy in totalitarian regimes. In a democracy people demand and have every expectation of being a bit more informed than that. For example, your 518pm provided nothing about the January death; is there no additional report of that to which you can point us?

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  5. Patricia Smith Avatar

    George, I told you that information will be forthcoming when the parents are ready to tell their story. I think it is understandable that they are grieving right now. It hasn’t even been a month since their daughter passed. Please don’t add to the lack of respect shown to these parents (and the Hurds). If you want to discount this tragedy until they come forward, be my guest.
    BTW, it isn’t just me saying the outdoor cultivation will create a serious health problem, I just have the bullypulpit. It’s Silas’s doctors, it’s all the patients that have testified before the Board about their personal experiences, it’s all the medical associations that have endorsed MMJ as a therapeutic option. And if you can save one life, why wouldn’t you? Are we arguing whether it saves lives or whether it saves enough lives? How many is enough?
    Your insistance on data that does not exists is tiring. I’ll give you a definative answer to the number of patients when you answer my question about the number of alcoholics. Deal? I gave you the best info I have.

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  6. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    OK, Patricia here are the alcoholism figures, where are your MMJ figures:
    FINDINGS: HEAVY DRINKING
    ● In 2012, the prevalence of heavy drinking for females was in the worst 25% of all counties at 8.7%, while the prevalence of heavy drinking for males was in the worst 25% of all counties at 12.4%. The national average in 2012 was 6.7% for females and 9.9% for males.
    ● From 2005 to 2012, the change in female heavy drinking was in the best-performing 10% of all counties with a decrease of 1.2 percentage points, while the change in male heavy drinking was in the best-performing 10% of all counties with a decrease of 0.3 percentage points. For comparison, the national average change from 2005 to 2012 was an increase of 1.5 percentage points for females and 0.9 percentage points for males.
    FINDINGS: BINGE DRINKING
    ● The prevalence of binge drinking in 2012 for females was in the middle-performing 50% for all counties with 13.2% of females engaging in binge drinking, while the prevalence of binge drinking in 2012 for males was in the middle-performing 50% for all counties with 24.7% of males engaging in binge drinking. To compare, the national average in 2012 was 12.4% for females and 24.5% for males.
    ● The change from 2002 to 2012 for females was in the best-performing 10% of all counties while the change for males was in the middle-performing 50%, with females experiencing a decrease of 1.2 percentage points and males experiencing an increase of 1.6 percentage points. To compare with the national average, females had an increase of 1.6 percentage points and males had an increase of 0.4 percentage points.

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  7. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    I have a hard time dealing with Patricia Smith. She writes in a disjointed and unclear style, to be charitable. Her initial post about the child in Penn Valley dying had absolutely no information other than to report the death. Patricia was somehow trying to tie in the B of S in Nevada County but gave zero details or tie in as to how the child died. Later she goes off on me and lists much more detail about the case and assumes that I knew all of this and had ignored it.
    After I finally am able to understand a bit more of what the hell Patricia is going on about, I realize the children involved (dead or dying) are nothing more than a platform on top of which Patricia can stand to deliver her diatribes concerning the legalities of the use of MJ.
    She openly admits the parents knowingly withheld the treatment from the child that Patricia claims would have saved the child. That’s a long ways from the B of Supes being responsible, as Patricia claimed initially.
    The whole thing is tragic to be sure and I think there is far more emotion than logic in much of the pro-MJ side than they will ever admit.
    If my child was dying and I thought a certain course of treatment would save that child, I wouldn’t hesitate to pursue that treatment. For Patricia to blame the Nevada County B of S for that child’s death is reprehensible.

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    ScottO 937pm – I understand your confusion since I’m suffering from the same syndrome. Somehow asking a third party to verify their report of a child’s death makes me show disrespect for the child’s parents – huh??!! And asking for an apology from an organization that referred to a sick child as being “unfortunate” in a case that involves an overarching public policy is also beyond bizarre. What the hell is going on with the Left’s cognitive acumen??! Their logic and conversational skills become more impenetrable by the month. I wonder if anyone claiming the muddled middle can act as a translator here to explain what really is happening.

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George, a good friend of mine was on the inside of Smith’s Measure S campaign and left because of Smith’s performance and lack of understanding of her own measure. Just not enough mental horsepower for the task at hand.
    Perhaps Smith is exceeding the recommended dosage.
    Scott O 9:37, exactly. If I had to drive to Arcata once a month to get MMJ for my kid it would get done. Smith seems to want a big carve out to make her life easier. IF there is someone for whom W would be a true tragedy, propose a specific carve out for them.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George, do you intend to vote for measure W yes or no.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE- Be so kind as to tell us why we should not vote for Measure S.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sure Don
    Because Measure S is not on the ballot. Care to re-phrase your question.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You are correct sir, measure S had 12 plants indoor in R zones as its base line personal grow. Sorry, i was already thinking of the come back! lol. Be so kind as to tell us why we should not vote for measure W.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    I will gladly expostulate onwhy W is a badidea but I’m in a bit of a rush right now. One comment that I have is that S lost primarily because of the argument offered by Sheriff Royal and opposition of S proponents that because it was a Ballot Measure it was written and stone and could not be altered without another expensive ballot measure and that the ordinance in place at that time was doing the job and there was no reason to change it. Those arguments were convincing to many of the middle of the roaders that I know. Measure W locks in stone the regulation like S would have so that argument will be used against W like it was against S because it is an argument of substance agaisnt both measures. the Sheriff did not in any way convince my middle of the road friends of the urgency of such heavy handed government regulation towards an issue that should be considered more carefully with all factors considered.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Re Measure W – I have yet to read the measure, but I am fundamentally against such means to lock in legislation on both the state and local levels. MJ legalization is already a complex matter of governance and public policy; no one yet has a ‘permanent solution’. A long term solution will require a process of trial and error, in short a level of flexibility for our legislators/supervisors that is not promised by voter initiatives, propositions, measures which when done, must also be undone by voters – not a facile process. Let’s stick to ordnances.

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  16. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    A total outdoor ban in the county is not necessary. There is a lot of undeveloped land in the county that could support outdoor growing without infringing on someone’s sensitive olfactory system.
    To show good faith, the County should keep the dialog open in order to come up with alternatives where some amount of MJ could be grown outdoors.
    I wonder if locals who lived near the thousands of acres hemp that used to be grown in the U.S. complained so bitterly about odors from those agricultural processes? Large pig farms and feedlots maybe but MJ – not so sure. The operators probably would have said that is the smell of money! Beauty is in the (nose) of the beholder.

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  17. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The growers TRO application hearing today resulted in a Tuesday hearing where each side will get 15 minutes of oral argument.

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE- That’s precisely why W has such limited language. All of the other aspects of processes, appeals and all the rest is still at the ordinance level which keeps it under the authority of the BOS to adjust and change. That way they can adapts to future needs.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 103pm – That is an intriguing observation. Could you please outline/list what are the bullet points of W’s “limited language” which leave for the BoS which important things “to adjust and change”? Doing that could change a lot of minds to support W. If you wish, I’d addend it to the current post.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    that’s a new one I’ve nefver heard before.
    Are you saying that W has the flexibility to change and allow outdoor growing under new regulations without returning as a ballot measure or are you referring only to the enforcement process. Please detail using ballot language.

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  21. Patricia Smith Avatar

    PE – you are right on point. Measure W would prevent the BoS from changing how much or where marijuana can be grown, but it does allow them to make slight modifications that only clarify the origianl intent. The grow sites and regulations are set in stone.
    Scott O,9:37pm: sorry you find my writing to be disjointed and unclear. It is sometimes difficult to convey the whole story when dealing with patient’s privacy. I gave enough details as I thought necessary to make my point. Obviously, that wasn’t enough.
    So to recap, what I meant to say whether it was clear or not is that the actions the Board took to ban all outdoor cultivation could result in the death of a child just like the one I cited. I’m not saying that the Board is responsible for this particular death (although the ban IS the reason her parents decided to try to find another solution). If terminal patients cannot get their medicine, they are in danger of dying. Understand the difference??
    You say you would pursue any course of action to save your child. That is what the Hurd’s are trying to do – legally. They cannot risk losing access at any moment their garden gets eradicated and they shouldn’t be put in this position to save their son. Most dispensaries do not carry the medicine Silas needs – especially on a consistent basis.
    If you want a more detailed explanation of why patients cannot grow enoguh medicine with 12 indoor plants, I suggest you attend one of the many educational forums held around town by ASA, the CGA, or the Coalition to tax & Regulate Medical Cannabis. It is even more difficult for patients like Silas who needs a strain-specific even ration of CBD/THC and has to alternate a different strain every 6 weeks to 2 months. I know that may seem confusing, but I don’t have the space to write a chapter on this topic.
    BTW, my radio show has won the Best Public Affairs Programming award for two out of three years. I guess I make sense to some people out there.

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  22. Patricia Smith Avatar

    I just reread my last post and want to clarify something. Scott, you are right, this sentence is not clear: “They cannot risk losing access at any moment their garden should get eradicated and they shouldn’t be put in this position to save their son.”
    This implies that the Hurd’s have grown cannabis in the past for their son’s medicine. That is not the case. They live in Lake Wildwood where they cannot grow for themselves. Our collective members grow for Silas and have for several years. I was referring to the greater “we” when I said “their” garden.
    I can admit when I am wrong!
    PS It’s kinda funny that Don B is extolling the fact that Measure W is vague when he excoriated Measure S for leaving enforcement measures to the County.

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  23. Patricia Smith Avatar

    Just stumbled across this on FB. In a praents own wordfs: (It’s rather lengthy, but worth reading)
    Jon Enos
    I would like to add my voice in support of Forrest Lee’s fight against the County. Silas Hurd is not the only intractable epileptic child who is adversely affected by the urgency ban and Measure W.
    My son Arjan, who was born and raised in this county, also suffers. He is not some “unfortunate poster child” being used for political ends. He is my child, and he has suffered dozens of seizures every day for 16 years.
    Big Pharma’s anti-seizure meds loose their effectiveness over time. My son was running out of options. But then we discovered CBD oil and finally got some hope. But it’s expensive: we can’t afford it unless we grow it.
    This morning a judge granted a temporary restraining order against the County, and fast-tracked a hearing for 8:30 Tuesday morning, March 8, so that whatever ruling is given at that time can be responded to at the Board of Supervisors meeting later that day.
    Even though the ruling this morning was based on technical grounds, and not a judgment on the merits of Measure W, this ruling sends a significant moral signal that the County is on thin ice.
    Effectively the Judge agreed with the argument that there is an immediate and significant danger in proceeding with the measure as written, and no harm will come to the County or the electorate if a little more time is given to consider it.
    Symbolically it was a huge win.
    This victory was made even more profound by the fact that the County rejected the first judge who was assigned to consider the writ, thinking that he was too liberal! So a more moderate judge was asked to take over, but ironically that did not help the County.
    I understand the County’s desire to curb large unregulated industrial grow operations. But to have written this ham-fisted blanket ban unintentionally punishes families with legitimate medical needs.
    It is unfair to force law-abiding citizens into a situation where they must ignore a law; it is unrealistic to ask NON law-abiding citizens to obey a law!
    In other words, the large illegal grows that have always happened in these hills will continue to happen, regardless of Measure W. But small legal grows, for serious medical issues, with licenses, and under medical supervision, suddenly and irrationally became illegal under this illegitimate ban.
    The result is that the only people actually targeted for suffering under Measure W are people like me & Forrest who were doing it right! We are not profiting from our grows, and we have real and significant need.
    Shame on the Sherrif, and shame on the County. Politics is about compromise, and with adequate discussion, a reasonable solution could have been had. It still can, if cooler heads than our so-called leaders prevail.
    My child, and other children (as well as suffering adults) seriously depend on sanity being achieved on this issue.
    We are real people, with real faces, who have suffered many sleepless nights in agony over our children’s health.
    To be attacked and vilified by the unthinking comments of the local Republican party; to suffer the indignity of a stigma which is unmerited towards a miraculous medicine; to be unceremoniously lumped in with people who are in this industry for nothing but money: all of it is insulting to the dignity of our families and our sick children.
    All of it is a manifestation of the ignorance of people who have not gone through the kinds of things that myself and Forrest have gone through.
    I am a conscientious tax-paying adult. I am not a teenager and the Sheriff and the BOS are not my parents! No one has authority over my sovereignty to protect and serve my sick child.
    Your discomfort with my presence in your community does not give you the right to tell me what I can or cannot do on my own property for the well-being of my own children.
    This emergency ban, and confusing, stupidly-written Measure W, are an onerous, undemocratic overreach of authority that disastrously effects my family’s finances and cause real and immediate harm.
    Sanity and reasonable compromise must be reached on this issue.
    Thanks for listening. Please share if you agree. This message and others like it need to go viral in our community.
    My name is Jon Enos and I do not represent any political party or any big interest. I represent my son, and I stand beside Forrest Lee Hurd for Silas.

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  24. Name not listed.... Avatar
    Name not listed….

    Actually Don your wrong, your stated “That’s precisely why W has such limited language. All of the other aspects of processes, appeals and all the rest is still at the ordinance level which keeps it under the authority of the BOS to adjust and change. That way they can adapts to future needs.”
    the BOS cannot change any aspect of Measure W.
    Once voted in place it’s locked in concrete, depriving this county of any benefits that may come in the future, including tax revenue.
    Adapting reasonable regulations, which there is 18 months to complete, can allow for any such changes, as well as benefit Nevada County by having 7 state agencies assisting.
    Can I now say that you’re against Measure W?

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Dr. R 116- Just touching bases my friends, I would ask all to reference the conversation between Supervisor Weston and County Counsel at the Jan. Measure W BOS video for context.

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Local Control

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    You ever answered the basic question. Can the BOS change the ballot measure once it becomes law to allow outdoor growing? Yes or no

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 752pm – Do you have a link for that ‘conversation’, or better yet to a memo that makes the argument that W provides for later BoS flexibility?

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  29. Patricia Smith Avatar

    Bill T, 8:20 Thanks, as if I needed another reason to “hate” Debbiie Whats-er-name. (Hate is a little strong, but I REALLY dislike her biased approach to running the DNC.)
    George, 9:07 Don will not be able to produce the document you requested because his basic premise is flawed and uncorrect. Perhaps the Court will insist the wording be corrected to definitively spell out what a NO vote means. As I recall, Allison Barrat-Green said the board would be “morally obligated” to rescend the ban, but not not “legally” bound to change the measure.
    Here is te text Bessee is referring to:
    SECTION III:
    The People of the County of Nevada affirm that the Board of Supervisors may adopt, without a vote of the people, such additional ordinances, resolutions or other regulations as may be necessary to reasonably interpret and clarify the provisions of this Ordinance, so long as such interpretations or clarifications (even if contrary to a prior interpretation or clarification) is not inconsistent with the language and original intent of this Ordinance. The People of the County of Nevada further affirm that voter approval shall be required to repeal or substantially amend the Ordinance in a manner that is inconsistent with its original intent.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don
    Where fore art though?

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The narrow basic language in the ballot measure is bullet proof. It is ALL the associated supporting regulations and processes that remain under the control of the BOS. That is not some new concept. That’s why some measures like S were verbose and others like W are simple and Board friendly.
    Pattie is again mixing issues with trying to bring in the feigned confusion surrounding the analysis language. That has nothing to do with the core language of the existing ordinance and measure W.
    Thanks for the concerns, even I get the flu sometimes. 😉

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  32. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Dr. R, The conversation I referenced would be right after public comments. You can go on the minutes and you will see all the public commenters listed. Its after that part you want to click on to see the video.

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  33. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    MEASURE W: COUNTY OF NEVADA
    “Shall an ordinance be adopted which (a) bans outdoor cultivation, commercial cultivation and other commercial cannabis activities, (b) limits indoor cultivation to 12 plants per parcel in residential and rural areas, (c) prohibits indoor marijuana cultivation in unpermitted structures and areas used or intended for human occupancy, and (d) allows marijuana cultivation only by qualified patients and primary caregivers and only for medicinal purposes?”
    Yes _____
    No _____
    I agree with George Rebane concerning legislation by ballot proposal. As written, however, Measure W doesn’t seem to be legislation but instead appears to ask whether legislation should be enacted. The problem I have with Measure W is that a majority of “Yes” votes appears to require enactment of an ordinance that includes all four sub-topics while a majority of “No” votes seems to not restrain the BOS in any way. It has a strong heads-I-win-tails-you-lose flavor.

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    W also appears to me to not require the BOS to maintain that ordinance unchanged after its initial enactment.

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  35. Name not listed.... Avatar
    Name not listed….

    Exactly Gregory!

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  36. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Gregory 06Mar16 05:01 PM
    A problem with ballot initiatives is that they often do result in unchangeable legislation. It seems to me that a requirement to “maintain [an] ordinance unchanged” would be patently stupid.

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  37. Patricia Smith Avatar

    Well, wrong again Bessie. Judge Heildelburger rfound that five things listed in the ballot language and argument were biased or misleading. It took a court case to get the County to admit that the vote is rigged as Michael Kesti noted, (March 6, 5:01), heads they win, tails you lose.
    It is shameful they can’t find a way to allow sick kids to get the medicine they need. Even Utah allows CBD medicine for kids.

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