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Sandbox – 27feb16

27 February 2016

[Here is what Joe Biden had to say about filling SCOTUS vacancies. And the record here shows that no liberal has explained why this time is so different that the Senate should not continue to follow the advice of our VP and several of his prominent Democrat colleagues. We expected crickets, and they have spoken. gjr]

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197 responses to “Sandbox – 27feb16”

Russ Steele

01 March 2016

Gregory,
Thanks for the update, I had forgotten about Nixon.

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Patricia Smith

01 March 2016

Don, are you smoking crack? Measure S was all about growing outdoors except for people who lived in residential neighborhoods – and we encouraged those people to let cultivators on AG parcels grow for them. Twelve indoor plants (grown under one 1,000wt light) cannot possibly produce enough medicine for any patient and I defy you to prove otherwise.

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Patricia Smith

01 March 2016

Scott, March 1, 5:36pm
Excuse me, but a child died in Penn Valley in January from epilepsy. All of you who say, “I support patients, but I don’t want marijuana grown near me” should think about this for one minute. What if it were your child? Think you might have a difference of opinion then?
And if that hurts my credibility, what does it do to yours??

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Scott Obermuller

01 March 2016

Yep – the precedent for pres pardons of potential or future crimes goes way back.
Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 333, 18 L. Ed. 366 (1866)
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Presidential+pardon
You can believe Obama is well versed on this.
He’ll be signing orders for pardons for hours in his last days in office.

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Scott Obermuller

01 March 2016

Patricia – your post of 8:47 is just nonsensical as it relates to your previous claim about the B of S in Nevada County. Sadly, people of all ages die all of the time in Nevada County.
You need to demonstrate that the actions of the B of S in Nevada County directly led to the death of that child.

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Jon

01 March 2016

Trump only disavowed Duke under pressure from handlers. He’s either a liar or not bright enough to be President. But you boys are stuck with this throwback!

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Jon

01 March 2016

Real great news Tozer for the tiny percentage of MA that counts itself GOP. Best of luck in the General election in the Commonwealth State. Love the Cape, Nantucket and the Vineyard. Great times growing up nearby.
Again, would love you to lay out the math to show Trump going from 45% of the GOP to 45% in the General…:). Please someone, take a shot!

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Jon

01 March 2016

I’ll leave ya’ll with this parting article tonight. Listen to Lindsay Graham, carefully.
Something about Hillary beating Donald like a drum..:) As I have been saying,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-ted-cruz_us_56d66752e4b0871f60ed361d?lecm1jor

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Todd Juvinall

01 March 2016

Sorry jon, while your candidate will be wearing the orange suit id federal prison, a R will be running the country. You are simply ignorant.

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fish

01 March 2016

“Listen to Lindsay Graham, carefully.”
……”meet me in the Senate coat room after 10:00 p…..come alone”!

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Gregory

02 March 2016

Jon/Pelline, even NPR reported Trump had disavowed Duke before, during and after the one time he didn’t do it well enough for the reporter trying to get him to waffle, which has all the earmarks of yet another instance of a manufactured scandal.
I guess a new picture of Pelline is needed. Anyone have a fresh sighting?

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drivebyposter

02 March 2016

Again, would love you to lay out the math to show Trump going from 45% of the GOP to 45% in the General.
-Jon
So you are saying that a close contested primary means you can’t win the general? You win, of course, by taking the 6 or so states that actually matter.
It’s probably worth looking at the Democratic 2008 primaries to see how someone can win the general after a close run affair in the primaries. That was a textbook case of the modern political landscape. These days, someone with a light (or no) resume who is a good reader of pre-written speeches can become Emperor of the World via a good TV presence, a healthy dose of luck, and an excellent marketing campaign.
The end game will be when Christopher Matthews gets a tingle up his leg when President Max Headroom takes office.

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Bill Tozer

02 March 2016

President Max Headroom? Good one drivebyposter:
Quote of the day
It’s disappointing and saddening that somebody who seemed to be trying to help the movement would be the one to set it back,” said Lauren Hospedales, a freshman, referring to Ms. Burwell.
Ah, beginning to be a familiar story. All the outrage, headlines, and soul searching for not….again. And again, another assault charge levied against the “victims”.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/nyregion/racism-charges-in-bus-incident-and-their-unraveling-upset-u-of-albany.html?_r=1

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Bill Tozer

02 March 2016

If you include Puerto Rico, In 2008 Hillary Rodham Clinton garnered more popular votes in the Dem primary than Barrack Hussein Obama, yet Obama won the nomination.
So much for a close contested primary having no bearing on the general. Historically, that is hogwash.
The flaw in jon’s argument is basically counting Republicians only. How many times has the dear reader heard “I am a conservative, not a Republican”, or ” I do not like the Republican Party all in all, but it is the vehicle that aligns best with my worldview.” Both the Dems and Republicans fail to hold 50% of the registered voting populace, less and less as each year passes.
Trump is redefining what the Republican Party is, just as Geoge W Bush did (as well as Obama) for better or worse. The labels Democrat or Republican are constantly being redefined by the de facto heads of the RNC and DNC respectively, aka, the President.
A lot of people say they cannot bring themselves to vote for Trump or Hillary. So, with the current front runners of each Party unable to pass the “hold your nose and vote” test at this moment in time, it appears all is chaos and the world is going to hell in a hand basket. Hey, that is exactly what primaries are all about. Internal in-fighting and rebellion and sorting it all out within each party. In the end they always come to a consensus.. Nothing new under the sun, albeit in our narrow views it seems like mayhem and the end of America as we know it at the time.
Jon, do not forget they said the same thing about Reagen. Yes, Trump is no Regean with a 15 year of conservative beliefs before running for the Big Prize, but still was considered unbeatable against an incumbent president. Doom, doom if Ronald Rayguns wins the nomination. People will move to Canada.
What Trump is counting on is the blue collar “Reagen Democrats”, the huge percentage of self proclaimed independents who appear breaking to the right more than the left, and the current throw the bums out mood of the entire electorate. Add to the mix a weak and piss poor likely opponent being offered up the DNC and you have an opening for Trump to win come November. Not a sure bet by any means, but a foot trail through the woods nonetheless.
In the mean time, keep beating the tried and true drumbeat of the DNC: Don’t look at our gal, look at the racist intolerate and intolerable Republicans. Don’t vote for our candidate, vote against the evil extreme far far far far right wingnut Republicans! Works like a charm…but 2016 may make the tried and true seem so yesterday.
People want the economy fixed, want to be secure, and are sick and tired of America being treated like the redhead bastard stepchild by our politicians. That is another foot trail through the woods and into the light.

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fish

02 March 2016

Looks like with just a few more gun laws those horrible things will be off our streets forever and we will evolve into a gentler and more caring species that progressivism promises!
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/02/news/fbi-background-checks/index.html

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Patricia Smith

02 March 2016

Scott, you can play word games all you want. The bottom line is that the Board has the ability to carve out an exception for sick and terminal patients (of all ages), but they refuse to do so.
Your lack of compassion for a 1 1/2 year old child that died is disgusting. Patients are getting thrown under the bus because it is “easier” for the Sheriff’s office.

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Bill Tozer

02 March 2016

Patty, patients are getting thrown under the bus because in real life, it ain’t about patients as such where the rubber meets the road. it’s about using a MMJ patient exception to open the floodgates to grow with abandon by those who don’t give a hoot about patients
. The growers wanted and received a loophole to grow pot for profit and call themselves legit. The growers did not like being called illegal and got tired of that paranoid life, especially watching a helicopter in the skies. Gets to the lawbreakers nerves.. Now ,their “legit” status has been revolked. It’s too bad that the small number of patients are being hurt by the majority of those who grow weed with thinking about how their actions affect patients. Greedy self centered bastardized they are.

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George Boardman

02 March 2016

Re Todd’s 3/1 at 8:01 p.m.:
You need to work on your reading comprehension and get your eyes tested.
I didn’t write that Trump embraced these racists, I wrote that they embraced him. That’s leads me to the following question: What has Trump done or said that leads racists to believe Trump reflects their values?
You also need to get your eyes checked for color blindness if you really believe the Republicans are the inclusive party. After the votes are cast and analyzed in November, it will be obvious that the GOP is the old white man’s party.

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Todd Juvinall

02 March 2016

No I think you need better deductive skills and maybe some better political skills. You failed to answer anyone else’s questions about your party leaders. Why is that? Because you are delusional regarding race. Republicans look at people as individuals and you D’s look at them for their color. My goodness, the KKK was started and sustained by the democrats. Did you know that? I would say you need to disavow Robert Byrd and the KKK. Since they are your ilk.
America has been split apart by you D’s, not the R’s. We want everyone to succeed, you and your ilk want modern day slaves.

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Scott Obermuller

02 March 2016

P Smith at 8:36 – I am not playing word games, I’m asking you to back up your contention that:
“…it’s the parents of a child who is likely to die because of their actions (or lack of them).”
You made an outrageous statement about the B of Supes in Nevada County that has no validity.
You made a lame attempt at covering that statement by saying that a child had died in Penn Valley. What does that have to do with the B of S in Nevada County?
Then you claim I have no empathy for the dead child.
Where does that come from?
Get your head cleared out and learn something about logic and reading comprehension.

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Paul Emery

02 March 2016

The bottom line is that the Board is using the hammer of the Government to engage in a culture war. The “locked in stone” argument against Measure S will haunt them in the Jund election. There is a huge backlash agaisnt this from retail business in GV and NC because they are quite aware of their bottom line and the percentage of sash business that comes their way. I challenge any supporters of W to go door to door in GV and NC and ask them what they think of this. W will surely lose and the Supes will regret they ever put it on the ballot.

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Paul Emery

02 March 2016

typo
percentage of sash business that comes their way should have read “cash” business or perhaps “stash” business. Either works

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Russ Steele

02 March 2016

Paul@11:10AM
While going door to door, asked the business owner if they allow RMJ on the job, do they allow staff to be high while dealing with customers. Ask the local manufacturers do they allow MJ used on the job? All business with Federal contracts are required to have a drug free workplace. Hard to run a business in Nevada County with Federal contracts when the majority of potential workers in the community have MJ in their systems, according to a high-tech CEO in a presentation to the Economic Resource Council.

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Gregory

02 March 2016

Boardman 1048 AM
You’ve bought into the Dem party line talking points and divisive mud slinging and please, don’t take this as even a hint of an endorsement of any Republican in the race except, perhaps, Kasich, and not much of one for him, either. It’s clear to me that a big Klan turd was thrown over and over until it hit the fan and splattered into a hundred talking points about how Trump hadn’t denounced Duke, whose ‘endorsement’ Trump made clear he had not heard or read, to the questioner’s satisfaction.
Guilt by association is a fallacy… this is guilt by disassociation. Neither Trump or anyone else in the GOP in any real role has any doings with Duke, whose claim to fame is one accidental term in the Louisiana legislature a quarter century ago (to their credit, the people of LA managed to avoid repeating that one) and a bunch of self promotion since. If it wasn’t for a press corps eager to hang Duke on Trump, no one would have paid any attention to Duke.
This all about the branding of the GOP as the party of lynchings, which it is not now and has never been, in order to drive the oblivious into the DEM voting booth. The danger to DEMs is that it doesn’t stick and further erodes the enthusiasm by DEM voters in the Fall and the danger to the country is that it just throws more fat into the flames.
George B, there’s no there, there. Shame on you.
We need more Martin Luther Kings and fewer Van Jones’s.

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Gregory

02 March 2016

Regarding MM, here’s an interesting article
http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/treating-seizures-and-epilepsy/other-treatment-approaches/medical-marijuana-and-epilepsy
Perhaps the BOS might have the county health people maintain a list of those with such maladies for a carve out that requires patients in need to come forward before the MJ cultivation and document their ilnesss, not as a defense after the fact.

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Jon

02 March 2016

“This all about the branding of the GOP as the party of lynchings, which it is not now and has never been” Gregory
Not true. It certainly is that same party in Dixie, the Deep South, where the Dem Party participants and constituents progressively turned to today’s GOP after 1964. Accelerated under Atwater, solidified in the 90s. Read and learn about Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions and you’ll see the modern embodiment of that old legacy of hatred.

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drivebyposter

02 March 2016

“It’s clear to me that a big Klan turd was thrown over and over until it hit the fan and splattered into a hundred talking points about how Trump hadn’t denounced Duke, whose ‘endorsement’ Trump made clear he had not heard or read, to the questioner’s satisfaction.”
-Gregory
Did Duke actually even endorse Trump? or is it just a made up story to get a reaction?
The general election, if it’s Hillary vs. Trump, really should be something. The full court press by the media on Trump is really something to behold.

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Russ Steele

02 March 2016

America Cannot Handle Four More Years Of This?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-01/peddling-non-fiction
This is why Trump is ahead of all the other candidates, especially the elite’s candidates. People want action, not more words. Trump is promising action. Hillery is promising more of the last 8 years, we cannot handle 4 more years of this.

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Gregory

02 March 2016

1240PM
Also Sprach Jeffie
Name a GOP lynching, “Jon”, or explain why a grand Kleagle like Robert Byrd would rise to such a exalted position in the Senate after being an Exalted Cyclops? He’s also the only Senator who is on record for having voted against the appointment to the SCOTUS of every black man nominated?
Once again, Scoopy is just throwing bombs.

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Todd Juvinall

02 March 2016

Gregory, “jon” is a sock puppet troll and he will never answer since that would give him away.

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Jon

02 March 2016

Gregory, so utterly clueless…on so many levels.
Keep flailing though, I like it.

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uires MJ testing

02 March 2016

RE Russ 02 March 2016 at 11:34
Do you think passing Measure W will eliminate MJ use in Nevada County? If a person has a job that requires MJ testing then it’s their decision what to do. Businesses do not allow drinking alcohol on the job yet many workers have a few beers at home after work. What’s the difference?

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Jon

02 March 2016

Bill Tozer 8:30AM, not saying that this is a statistically valid, but I’ve said that a guy I see every couple weeks- a fairly big NorCal Tea Party guy- has repeatedly told me he and many of his colleagues are disgusted by Trump (and Christie) and the tactics and style used, don’t trust these NY/NJ type guys, don’t believe they are true conservatives, and will definitely sit out and watch Hillary win in 2016. His guy is Cruz, Rubio OK, and he’s originally a huge Carson guy. All I know is that a lot of principle conservatives will be in this same boat.

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George Rebane

02 March 2016

re Jon 229pm – I can see voting for Clinton instead of Trump if your principles ignore that she is a long-established lying and untrustworthy sleazebag, incompetent, unaccomplished, and most likely a criminal; and instead indict Trump for his brash behavior and uncouth statements on the campaign trail. I personally know of no conservative who would promote Hillary into office by sitting out the election. However, I do know a Tea Partier who regularly communicates the goings on at TP and SoJ meetings to his leading liberal friends.

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Walt

02 March 2016

What happened to the “down with the establishment!”? You know,, from back in the hippie days? Us “Trumpers” are resurrecting that cry. And from what I see and hear, many a DEM is jumping on the Trump band wagon. ( back East DEMS are jumping ship by the thousands, to LIB dismay… Now how did that news slip out?)
The “establishment”, on both sides, have put this nation into the proverbial ditch, and the people are PISSED. But what do we hear? ” yaa,,, we “F”ed things up on an epic scale, but keep voting for us, and those “we” want..” Nope,, not happening this time.
Trump is the GOP’s worst nightmare, since they can’t pull his strings. You are seeing just how to eat an Elephant. “One bite at a time”. The GOP is saying “don’t vote for him.”,,, The people are done getting told what to do.

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Gregory

02 March 2016

“Jon”, assuming you are the person I think you are, it’s been established you make stuff up that is defamatory in nature and pass it off as the truth, so your claims of enjoying this fall on at least two deaf-to-you ears. It remains that on multiple recent occasions, you take a leave of absence after good zings fly your way.
I’ve also no reason to think you aren’t a tag team of the usual suspects.
BTW, regarding Sec’y Clinton as described in GR’s 3:47, if anyone here has not paid their respects to Ambassador Christopher Stevens grave-site in Grass Valley, you should.

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Walt

02 March 2016

Gregory. A picture of the grave marker placed next to a “Vote for Hillary” campaign sign is appropriate.

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fish

02 March 2016

Oh no……this isn’t at all what they’d hoped for.
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20160301/NEWS/303019997

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George Rebane

02 March 2016

To our liberal friends, especially the narrowly read local ones, who are already happy dancing in the streets celebrating Hillary’s coronation next January, I would draw attention to their more astute nationally prominent colleagues about the diminishing cadres of Democrat voters. Huff Post reports today, “Democratic Party elites shouldn’t be high-fiving each other. They should be very, very worried.”

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Walt

02 March 2016

Anyone seen the new anti Trump ads? ” He hired ILLEGALS to work on his construction jobs!”
Well,, pro illegal LIBS should be happy with that news. And just how far down the food chain is the guy who actually did the hiring???? Any bets that those hired used falsified doc. to get the job? And where did those people come from?? The UNION HALL. Funny how the union shops remain blameless in their enrolling practices. But it’s Trump’s fault.
Those with a lick of smarts should see through that BS.

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Bill Tozer

02 March 2016

Hear ye, hear ye.
To us Trumpmaniacs, nothing will stick. We don’t care. We want to win, not win an argument.
Personally I think Trump is a moderate. No one from the Iron Workers, to the electricians to the nail pounder’s unions have a bad thing to say about him or doing work for him. Tells me he does whatever it takes to get his jobs done. He ain’t a union buster nor is he going to send goons out to crack heads of those working for Planned Parenthood. We want a few things to get done, not talked about. One is security, foreign and domestic. Another is economic nationalism as much as one can expect in the Global Economy. We are about 1/4 the way there to crush PC speech and wipe it off the map. PC kills any honest dialogue, skewers an honest assessment of problems, and thus constrains agreements, disagreements, and hinders real solutions to real problems. Anything else is just gravy
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We right to lifers don’t even care about the issue this time around. Courts already decided that long ago. Balanced budgets are even negotiable. Nothing you can say will stick because we have our eyes on the prize, whether we like Trump or not.
Even William F Buckley said basically winning trumps everything he was trying to do. After following the party line and voting for Sen. Dole, McCain, Romney, and George H W Bush, I am tired of these good men, devoid of passion and are all losers. Party likes Rubio? Tough shit. Party had never figured out how to grow the base since Reagen. They have talked a good conservative game and governed as if being liked by Dems is the higher calling. Screw them.
This is the new Republican Party and Trump is doing what no other elitist focus group taking pol had done. Trump is expanding the base, all by himself.
Millions wish Trump would not be such a bombastic quick to retaliate cad. I say nonsense. That is his power, his draw. Tell it like it is, Trump, and don’t change. Tell me if you become president you will build a wall and have the Justice Department send Hillary to prison. Tell me again that so and so is a liar, a bad person. Do not listen to those who smile yet hate your guts. I hope Trump never becomes like them….”them” talk with forked tongue and have lying down to perfection. Give them hell, Donald, and take no prisoners. Stay unique and curse, offend, hit back hard with lethal force when attacked, and bring home the bacon. Win one for the Gipper!…ok, that last one was a little melodramatic,
The losers are full of advice. Their advice to Trump is to be more like them….losers. Bring the hammer Mr. Trump and be The Terminator of the status quo professional losers and liars and gold diggers. You already have the bully pulpit and keep talking straight to the Ametican People in language we all understand. Keep striking that chord.

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Walt

02 March 2016

Bill. Send THAT to The Union.. Let’s see it that gets printed.
Watch the locals go ape sh**.

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Don Bessee

02 March 2016

UH OH, Madam liar lair pantsuits on fire has heard the first shoe fall. The FBI’s criminal investigation into the bathroom server has granted immunity to the guy who installed the server. The cooperation of tech guy Bryan Pegliano has been secured. He worked for the 08′ losing campaign and also followed her to the State Dept where he continued to tend the illegal server. Clasic FBI nibble up the food chain model, flip the low level but key player then leverage the mid level and so on. This should complicate the June seorndepositions of Huma et all. They will not know what the tech guy spilled and might have to tell a lot of truth even though they don’t want to. 😉

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Don Bessee

02 March 2016

Make that sworn depositions.

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Walt

02 March 2016

Don. Hillary is getting moved to the top of “O”‘s pardon list. The Proggys will stop at nothing to keep her in the game. The same will go for her minions.

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Scott Obermuller

02 March 2016

re Don B at 8:29 – Don’t be so sure. Remember what happened when J Hubbell thought he might testify to what he knew about Whitewater. Some Clinton heavies visited him in jail and suddenly James claimed his memory wasn’t so good any more.
Mr Pegliano better watch his back.
Huma already has her testimony coached by the master – Hillary.
“Hmm, I don’t seem to have any recollection of any of that. I’d really like to help you, but all of those details have slipped my mind.”

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Don Bessee

02 March 2016

Huma could blame it on the mmj or ptsd from being married to weiner. 😉

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Jon

02 March 2016

Greg, got me. I am a triple tag team of Michael, Steve and Jeff.

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Jon

02 March 2016

George R 3:47PM- I never said my prominent Tea Party friend would be voting for Hillary. He would never do that. I said he would sit it out and wait for the supposed bad things to happen to her, and wish and wait for the 2020 election and a resurgent of true conservatives.
BTW, he is not a resident of Nevada County. He simply despises anything to do with Trump or Christie.

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Jon

02 March 2016

“This should complicate the June seorndepositions of Huma et all” Famous Donnie Bessee
Totally sober this evening, eh Donnie? Well even you’re entitled to an evening high, whether it be booze or MJ.

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