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Sandbox – 16feb16

16 February 2016

[I believe that Trump did himself irreparable harm in last Saturday's debate with his extraordinarily boorish behavior toward Bush and Cruz. His follow on interviews over the weekend gave clear evidence that he is more than a bit panicked about his campaign, as when he had to also claim that the RNC stacked the audience against him. The latter allegation let him drop the threat that he may now become a third party candidate since he is "not being treated fairly." I'll go out on a limb and predict that he is now at his zenith, and from here on it's all down. gjr]

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174 responses to “Sandbox – 16feb16”

Bill Tozer

17 February 2016

Dr. Rebane@ 08:18 in the am.
Follow up. First part of link seems like there are minor bumps in the road, second part of article seems to get bumpier. Glad Obamacare is saving the average family $2,500, aren’t you? The article does not mention the CoveredCalifornia tax on every real estate transaction. More taxes needed to keep it afloat, IMHO.
http://www.mercurynews.com/health/ci_29528911/covered-california-reports-almost-1-6-million-consumers

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Walt

17 February 2016

Now Bill. “This is the one and only shot us inbred Duck Dynasty tee shirt wearers got to stop the snobs” Did you see me with mine? ” Happy happy happy” in camo,, and didn’t say hello?
Now ease up on “jon”. I hear he’s running low on crack. He’s been all over the board and not right once where Trump is concerned. He enjoys being wrong, and has yet to turn in his homework.
Hillary is reduced to barking like a dog, a coughing up hair balls, And the kinder, gentler Commie Sanders is trying to sell Eunicorn ranches for votes.(Yup,, terrorism he blames on AGW…. Off his meds?)

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Walt

17 February 2016

Now here is a great one.
11:31 a.m. — A caller from McCourtney Road reported an NRA sign that the caller found offensive, and demanded it be taken down.
This isn’t on a college campus. You don’t have the right to be “not” offended.
You the one bitching “jon”?

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Jon

17 February 2016

Yes Walt, that was me.
Now if you don’t mind, please show me your math that leads to a Trump presidency :)…lol.
hint: probably not enough uneducated, angry rednecks to win a general election in America…meaning: must find votes elsewhere.

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Paul Emery

17 February 2016

Bill T writes:
” It will be one more vote that nobody will ever notice or make a hill of beans worth of difference.”
So Bill are saying that you have to vote for a Dem or Repub to make a difference? Are you saying my vote is wasted?

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George Rebane

17 February 2016

PaulE 941pm – Sounds like we have a bit of B.W. Overstreet’s ‘Stubborn Ounces’ here –
You say the Little efforts that I make
will do no good: they never will prevail
to tip the hovering scale
where Justice hangs in balance.
I don’t think I ever thought they would.
But I am prejudiced beyond debate
in favor of my right to choose which side
shall feel the stubborn ounces of my weight.

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Jon

17 February 2016

hay Walt, not a great day for you, my man! Your boys, the Bundy Clan now facing multiple federal indictments on a variety of charges. Old Cliven and is lawbreaking gang is going to be behind bars for a long, long time. The cherry on top is the new WSJ/NBC national poll showing Ted Cruz surpassing your boy, the very theatric Donald Trump! The host of this blog had impeccable timing, I must say. But in the end, my prediction will hold as well. Its all downhill from here for the loudmouth racist real estate developer. The insane legal threat against Cruz today (which Cruz masterfully thwarted and made The Donny look like a rank amateur ambulance chaser)..on the heels of the very misguide attack on the Bush Clan and the beloved W last weekend…they were the final straw in this long running sideshow.
But I do wish you well going forward :). That is all.

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drivebyposter

18 February 2016

So Bill are saying that you have to vote for a Dem or Repub to make a difference? Are you saying my vote is wasted?
P.Emery
You can argue that in the Great State of California, your vote in a Presidential general is wasted in any case. There was probably some value in building civic mindedness by choosing Coke vs. Pepsi back in the distant past, but as even Robert Putnam finally admitted, those days are waning.
Just imagine the money that could be saved on Nov. 8 2016 by merely doing a high quality poll (a few 1000’s of people) in the handful of states that are actually in play.

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

. Yes! I am saying Paul’s vote is wasted as well as mine in the General because I live in CA and Paul’s vote is essentially none of the above.

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drivebyposter

18 February 2016

“The cherry on top is the new WSJ/NBC national poll showing Ted Cruz surpassing your boy, the very theatric Donald Trump!”
Jon
and the ‘Quinnipiac’ (whatever that is) poll shows Trump going from +9 to +20 over the last two weeks. CBS News shows him unchanged at +17 over the last week.
These numbers are so laughably different that it shows a lack of rigor in the methodology.

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fish

18 February 2016

More evidence of the obvious and tangible benefits of government run healthcare programs/facilities!
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/veterans-hospital-cincinnati-faces-scrutiny-report-021006103.html
I simply can’t understand why the “hard right” won’t acknowledge this!

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fish

18 February 2016

Posted by: drivebyposter | 18 February 2016 at 06:42 AM
These numbers are so laughably different that it shows a lack of rigor in the methodology.
You would think that the data focused technocrat who operates (apparently…..hat tip Greg) the “jon” marionette would have recognized this in a poll presenting such questionable results.

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fish

18 February 2016

Ah that wacky climate……..it just doesn’t seem to want to cooperate when forward looking people need to establish another revenue stream!

PAST PERFORMANCE IS NO GUARANTEE OF FUTURE RESULTS:
● “Snow and ice expected to cause chaos for rush hour commuters.”
—Headline, London Independent, yesterday.
● “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past.”
—Headline, London Independent, March 20th, 2000.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/snow-and-ice-expected-to-cause-chaos-for-rush-hour-commuters-a6878556.html
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/12/one-of-the-longest-running-climate-prediction-blunders-has-disappeared-from-the-internet/

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jon smith

18 February 2016

Hey Walt, I think you are barking at the wrong jon. I’m pro gun and pro waterboard but have largely been MIA from this board as of late. Since you woke me up, I’ll add that I respectfully disagree with Mr. Rebane’s prediction that the Donald reached his zenith a while back. I’ll even stick my skinny neck out and suggest a Trump Clinton election in November and the one with thickest ankles will be our next madam pres.

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

New term in our lexicon. Cankles.. That those ankle brackets used by LE to monitor home detention movements of the convicted who have plus sized ankles. Never heard of the term before and now it is widely used in reference to Mez. Hill. A coincidence?

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

Opps. I stand corrected. Nothing to do with LE or anklets on the ankles. It’s when the calf that meets the ankle without any discernible difference between the two.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cankles
http://m.memegenerator.net/instance/37435211
Still am puzzled why the noun cankles is used so often in this election cycle. The quickest solution is to wear boots you would think.

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Walt

18 February 2016

No Mr. Smith.That’s why I always use your Sir name in these here parts. That way there is no confusion. I KNOW your stance on guns.
I think “your neck” has yet to get close to the tree stump. Yup,, WSJ/NBC poll is feel good crap. A poll from way out in Left field. All the Repubs running started emulating Trump when they saw his Alpha male demeanor working. Before that. they were all spinless, apologetic.”can’t we all just get along” wusses. The moment someone said “you hurt my feelings”, the apology game was one.
As for Clinton, the DNC has already rigged the game for her. She has all the superdelegates in her corner. and Sanders gets others ripped out from under him.
Hillary is just too big to jail. She could come out and say SHE offed Vince Foster, and still nothing would happen.

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George Boardman

18 February 2016

Here’s a slogan for all you angry conservatives who are convinced the Republican Party has betrayed you and who are fed-up with the Republican elite, courtesy of a used car dealer in South Carolina who’s backing Trump: “We’re voting with our middle fingers!”
Classy.

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Todd Juvinall

18 February 2016

The Pope has decided that Trump is not a Christian because he is for a wall on the border. The Vatican is surrounded by a wall!! You just can;t make this stuff up.
Regarding the “finger”. I recall when Obama and Hillary etal, stole 100’s of dealerships from their owners. Even here in our little ton I am told the Dodge dealer was screwed out of the franchise. I think a middle finger is actually in order.

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fish

18 February 2016

Posted by: George Boardman | 18 February 2016 at 09:22 AM
…..probably better than voting with Pitchforks and Torches.

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fish

18 February 2016

Ah….the petulant whine of the entitled politician.

“As recently as mid-January, a poll from NBC, The Wall Street Journal and Marist found Clinton with a 33-point lead in South Carolina.
“I don’t get it. I don’t think anyone expected this race to look like this,” said one former Clinton aide who maintains ties with the campaign. “A big loss in New Hampshire, basically a tie going into Nevada. You have to ask yourself, ‘What’s next?’ ”

‘What’s next?’
An indictment?!?

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

Boardman, this is not the time for classiness. Doth ye eye thus in offense? Well, at least you brought up a quote from a used car dealer, gasp! A USED CAR DEALER from South Carolina, gasp!, FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, who’s backing Trump, gasp!, BACKING TRUMP. Good one, Mr. Boardman. Classy.

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

Boy, my gal just caught another break. With her rapidly coming apart at the seams health status, my gal will be eligible for home detention. We live in a compassionate society.

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Walt

18 February 2016

I can relate Boardman,, since that’s sums up my feelings as well. Welcome to politics ” blue collar”style. “We”,, are giving D.C. what they have given “us” for years. ” yup,, your #1!” Screw the political ruling class. It’s time they remember who they work for, and who put them where they are.

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Bill Tozer

18 February 2016

Oh no! Danger, Will Robinson, danger. The big guns have some out against the citizen Donald J Trump with the old one-two punch. Uppercut followed by the right cross,pun intended. Obama yesterday and the Pope today. That should slow Trumpmania for about 54 hours. Next up, please. We are waiting for your arrows to stick. Keeping trying. Hey, it’s only Febuary. Plenty of time…..if you can remain in good health.

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fish

18 February 2016

Oh Bernie….how could you have known that you were up against the Tracy Flick of the democratic party? Perhaps the most single minded and focused post menopausal women on earth and that the fix was in from the moment you got into the race……?

“In a giant step backwards in eliminating special interests in Washington, the Democratic National Committee overturned a ban introduced by Barack Obama in 2008 restricting donations from federal lobbyists and super PACs. Unfortunately for Bernie Sanders’ supporters—who take pride in the Democratic presidential candidate’s refusal to accept funds from super PACs—the decision disproportionately benefits Hillary Clinton, as she is the only Democratic presidential candidate taking such donations.”

No way the establishment democrats were going to let you upset their applecart!
http://observer.com/2016/02/how-the-dnc-helps-clinton-buy-off-superdelegates/

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fish

18 February 2016

Plucked from todays headlines…..

“SARANDON BERNING: ‘I DON’T VOTE WITH MY VAGINA’…

I’m sure this a great comfort to the person behind you waiting to vote.

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fish

18 February 2016

Your feel good tweet of the day……

Ed Schultz’s Super PAC To Shut Down After Only $25 In Donations http://goo.gl/DoOa8Z via @JackHeretik

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Don Bessee

18 February 2016

Iran and putin announce a massive arms deal, almost all of which is at odds with UN arms restrictions that under 0’s deal with Iran can be vetoed by any Security Council member. Does anyone think 0 is going to lift a finger to prevent Iran from getting the S-400 anti-air systems, T-90 tanks and long range offensive weapons? All of this in the shadow of the mullahs ICBM efforts that are patently in violation of existing restrictions and we have them calling another impending ICBM test a satellite launch. The problem is the picture shows no significant pay load which makes it a large rocket test that is banned.

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Russ Steele

18 February 2016

Common Core Math Failing to Prepare College Bound Students
Gov. Brown proposes competition to create new high school math course
Tucked inside Gov. Jerry Brown’s projected 2016-17 budget is a proposal for an unusual state-funded competition to address a long-standing challenge facing high school seniors: getting them better prepared for college-level math.
Brown is proposing spending $3 million for a competition to develop a year-long math course that is closely aligned with the California State University’s expectations for incoming freshmen, and will help students avoid having to take remedial classes when they get there.
ooo
The additional high school course would mesh with the Common Core State Standards, which envisage a three-year sequence of math courses but also strongly recommend a fourth year, without specifying what that fourth year courses should be.
CSU faces a persistent challenge of having to provide developmental classes for incoming freshmen. In the most recent CSU freshman class, for example, 25,000 students, or almost half of the incoming class, were required to start their math or English remedial work during the summer before they enrolled through CSU’s Early Start program.
http://edsource.org/2016/gov-brown-proposes-competition-to-create-new-high-school-math-course/94051

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George Rebane

18 February 2016

Now here are two much discussed items of progressive progress – DonB’s 520pm and RussS’ 1002pm – that will spur the Collectives’ Cricket Core to respond.

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fish

19 February 2016

Oooooh…..Democrat on “Democrat” violence shaming!
Nice!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3454075/Hillary-Clinton-gets-BOOED-MSNBC-town-hall-says-Bernie-Sanders-wasn-t-really-Democrat-decided-run-president.html

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fish

19 February 2016

Sweet, sweet music……..

“Byron York: In South Carolina, Bush family, friends gather as end nears”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2583643

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Walt

19 February 2016

As I drink my morning coffee I come across this.
http://www.theunion.com/opinion/20587919-113/bill-neville-limit-gun-ownership-to-republicans
LIB logic gets “schooled” by Conservative logic.

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

Walt: https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796150003852372/?type=3&theater
Now, why in the hell do the Libbies want us to be more like Europe?? We fought our first war to not be like Europe. Guess they have short attention spans to go along with shit for brains.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796096650524374/?type=3&theater
Fish:
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796174017183304/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

While all have since made nice, I still find this as my quote of the day:
El Papa just visited Cuba. He hugged and embraced Raúl Castro, a man who has executed priests, harassed religious leaders, and closed Christian schools years ago. Did he call the Castro brothers un-Christian?

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Don Bessee

19 February 2016

The Union is reporting some phone call and email numbers regarding the BOS measures W meeting last month. Seems they only looked at the time frame in close proximity to the meeting. So they are focused on the growers response to the announcement of the meeting. The window that should be analyzed is the whole year prior to the meeting. That was when the home owners were complaining to the BOS. Thre is no way to quantify how many direct contatcts at events were made by home owners asking for relief.
I had a union reporter say how overwhelming the growers were at the Jan. BOS meeting. I think one need only look at the archived video of the BOS meeting where the BOS put measure S on the ballot. Same public show by the growers and their out of area friends. They lost 2 to 1 in the real world.

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George Rebane

19 February 2016

BillT 935am – Excellent point Mr Tozer. This pope’s political ideology and agenda clearly trump his duties as the current occupant of St Peter’s chair.

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Walt

19 February 2016

The question has been answered…” What is the diff between a Democrat and a Socialist?”
Remember that?,, Answer…” Just the letters that make up the words”.
Next question.. What’s the diff between a Socialist and a Commie pinko? ( I say,, not damned much.)
The dominos are starting to fall. The LIB rags of the net are starting to say Hillary is done.

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George Boardman

19 February 2016

Hey Walt, what has 28 teeth and an IQ of 96? The first row of supporters at a Trump rally.

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Walt

19 February 2016

Really Boardman? It sure gotta suck reporting that news.. From what I hear, it’s more than you have.

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Todd Juvinall

19 February 2016

Here is how we who have been the subject of headlines see you “journalists”.
George W. Bush is seen crossing the Potomac river on foot.
The Washington Post : “President Bush crosses the Potomac River”.
The Washington Time : “Bush’s conservative approach saves taxpayers a boat”.
Mother Jones : “Bush can’t swim”.

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fish

19 February 2016

Posted by: Walt | 19 February 2016 at 11:53 AM
From what I hear, it’s more than you have.
Now Walt be nice……of course George has a full set! They just sit in a glass on the nightstand at night.

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

Good one Mr. Boardman. Great to see you still can get down with your lower companions and relate on our level.
Oh Walt, Mr. Boardman is just funning with ya. Glad to see Mr. Boardman can recycle jokes decades old. It’s like being at Thanksgiving Dinner and old gramps starts saying those old depression era jokes again and we all sit around pretending to listen waiting for the time when we are supposed to laugh in delight like we are hearing it again for the first time.
Oh Fish, Boardman’s teeth are like stars. They come out at night. (A real old one).
Oh Todd:
https://www.facebook.com/ChristianConservativeAndNotAfraid/photos/a.254362961349268.60315.254361774682720/893206837464874/?type=3&theater
Oh Walt @ 11:15 in the am:
http://patriotpost.us/posts/40731
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796670230467016/?type=3&theater
Friggin commie socialist Marxist pinko progressives. Everything they touch turns to shit.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796843310449708/?type=3&theater
Why can’t we all just get along?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/796744857126220/?type=3&theater

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Walt

19 February 2016

Yaaa,,, that was a little ‘Trumpish’.. ( someone takes a cheap shot,, and gets one back… With interest.)
So my Pinko Commie comment struck a nerve with Board Georgeman. OK,,, the ball is in your court.. YOU tell me the difference between today’s Democrat and a Socialist.(good luck)
Let’s see if your “IQ” is higher than mine. ( I done took those tests over the years, and faired ah might well in them there triple digits.) So bring it on book learned smart guy.

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

Oh Walt, I done misjudged ya. I thought you would give our friend (and actually pretty good writer) the ole Southern Used Car Dealer One Finger Salute. But you chose to remain classy. Glad to see one of us take the high road. It’s lonely down here. 🙂
As far as Hillary or Debbie Whatzhername Shultz, you will never get an answer to the repeatedly asked question on national TV, now matter who butters them up before popping the question. “What is the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist?” It ain’t going to happen. They just nod their heads in the faux listening mode and smile and say within their themselves, “you’ll see, you’ll see, you’ll see come next January.”
Ok, let’s see what Shultz actually said in response.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1PWXTjxTTe8

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

Now this is how a smooth operator answers questions.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9dmygdWkI

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Bill Tozer

19 February 2016

Jon, how could I missed this one?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-ive-always-tried-to-tell-the-truth/
Seems there is a lot of Clintonese “truthism” in the word truth. I am surprised she didn’t quote P. Pilate and retort “What is truth?”
Ok, Trumps negatives are At 58% and Hillary hover around 63%. So, toss them both out of the general for electability. So, who is left??. Come on, take a stab at it. I promise not to hold you accountable or rub your nose in it. Make your best estimate, with or without conventional wisdom. Who verses whom this fall?. What goes your gut tell ya?

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Walt

19 February 2016

I guess Georgeman will get back to me on that question sometime next week.
George may care to think about what it would mean if Col.Sanders got elected, and just by chance the Commie pinkos retake the House. Taxation the likes we have never seen.
You know,, all that free shit he is promising.
The latest out of that Unicorn rancher, is 15 buck minimum wage. So just to be fair, MY pay should reflect my job skill abilities, in relation to what minimum wage is. That should bump me up to about 28 bucks an hour. The same goes for every skilled job. Then the bitch will be everything is too expensive.(I wonder why?)

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Don Bessee

19 February 2016

GB- 1144- And they each have a vote just like the university students who think Judge Judy is on the Supreme Court! LOL 😉

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