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[These sandboxes sure fill up fast with a variety of topics tucked between the mudballs.  One regular commenter made an interesting remark that bears more consideration – under what conditions is it possible for a mixture of devout Muslims and non-Muslims to live in close proximity – e.g. the same neighborhood?  gjr]

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199 responses to “Sandbox – 9jan16”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    Somebody has taken a stab at quantification….

    When Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone:
    United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%
    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris — car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 10-15%
    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%
    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
    100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
    “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.” — Leon Uris, “The Haj”
    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France , the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Get your powerball tickets!! ( LIB constituent retirement plan)
    HELL!! MY retirement plan…

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Continued from the last sandbox:
    I just read polls numbers for Hillary back in October, 2015, aka, a couple of months ago. Boston Globe called it “crazy good” numbers for Mrs. Bill Clinton. Another main stream outlet in bold print was screaming their jeans going ape grunt proclaiming Mrs. Bill Clinton has opened up a 40% lead nationally!!
    Well, somebody better keep an eye on Huma, aka, Mrs. Anthony Weirner, because somebody is sure beating the stew out of Hillary.
    http://www.inquisitr.com/2692984/feel-the-bern-bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-in-new-poll-tips-elizabeth-warren-for-vice-president/
    Mrs. Bill Clinton’s response?
    http://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clintons-campaign-changed-162508556.html
    My, that is a winning strategy. Bash Republicans, what a novel idea. Hide from Trump, which is a no-brainier unless she likes getting her bell rung on a daily basis. And the clincher is “vote for me because I am electable.” My gal is running on all 3 cylinders now. Forward Ho!

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 1043am – your sentiments are appreciated more than the diligence with which you read my posts. Dr Hammond’s work was just recently covered and provided in a convenient downloadable pdf here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2016/01/ruminations-3jan16.html

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  5. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    The question: . . . under what conditions is it possible for a mixture of devout Muslims and non-Muslims to live in close proximity – e.g. the same neighborhood?
    We have a government system that is separate from our religion. Islam is a combined religion and political system. Muslims laws are built into their Islamic faith. Non-Muslim legal systems are separate from religious preferences. The question comes down to which legal systems will be exercised in the neighborhood? Constitutional Law or Sharia Law? It seems these are not compatible and would lead to unresolvable neighborhood conflicts. The result so far is community “no-go zones” where Sharia law is practiced and laws of the Nation are ignored or even shunned.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    RussS 1236pm – Agreed. I think you put your finger on the critical factor of Islam that guides social integration of devout Muslims with non-Muslims.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well George if the topic here is religious massacre ity is appropriate to point out the massacre of Muslims by Christians in what sas Yugoslavia. Th s Musli8ms certainly don’t own the franchise on this. Here’s a start:
    The Srebrenica massacre is the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II. In 2004, in a unanimous ruling on the “Prosecutor v. Krstić” case, the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), located in The Hague, ruled that the massacre of the enclave’s male inhabitants, accompanied by the forcible transfer of all of the women, children and elderly, constituted a crime of genocide. Theodor Meron, the presiding judge, stated:
    By seeking to eliminate a part of the Bosnian Muslims, the Bosnian Serb forces committed genocide. They targeted for extinction the 40,000 Bosnian Muslims living in Srebrenica, a group which was emblematic of the Bosnian Muslims in general. They stripped all the male Muslim prisoners, military and civilian, elderly and young, of their personal belongings and identification, and deliberately and methodically killed them solely on the basis of their identity.
    On July 1995, Bosnian Serbs killed more than 8,000 Muslim men and boys, as well as the ethnic cleansing of another 25,000–30,000 refugees, in and around the town of Srebrenica in Bosnia and Herzegovina in what is now referred to as the Srebrenica massacre.
    https://drudgeretort.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/christian-terrorism-the-bosnian-genocide/

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  8. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    The folks who follow politics might enjoy this:
    http://www.steynonline.com/7408/notes-on-a-phenomenon

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1246pm – Does not your citation then support the notion that the devout of two religions whose describe widely disparate cosmologies should live in separate communities? India has practiced this with some considerable success since 1949.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 09 January 2016 at 12:18 PM
    Sorry George….after a while it all seems to run together.

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Multiple choice: WWII Death Camps operated by brownshirt Croats (virtually all of them) exterminated more of which group, Serbs or Jews? Take your time.
    Serbs will be among the first to agree they are often their own worst enemy, but in the meltdown of Yugoslavia, they were desperate to get back their traditional homelands, including Kosovo. Imagine Texans watching the Alamo being transferred to Mexico.
    When ethnic cleansing by Serbs stopped, ethnic cleansing by Moslems (not arabs, Bosnian and Albanian Moslems tend to be descendants of slavs who converted to Islam under the Ottoman Empire) took up some of the slack.
    As of today (Literally!) the ones throwing firebombs are those opposed to giving ethnic Serbs more of a say in Kosovo’s government.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35271907

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  12. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Greg, great job justifying the ethnic cleansing of innocent Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo. Following the racist tone of this particular sandbox so far, was expecting as such. Waiting for additional hatred…

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  13. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    That wasn’t a justification, just a note on the bullets flying in all directions. You are Pelline, aren’t you, “Jon”; same modus operandi.

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Here’s another for “Jon” Pelline, who, along with Paul E., apparently only knows a fraction of one side of the history.
    “The Yad Vashem Center has in one place stated that “more than 500,000 Serbs were murdered in Croatia in horribly sadistic ways, 250,000 were expelled, and another 200,000 were forced to convert to Catholicism”.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp
    One of the largest European death camps in WWII. How many readers here ever heard of it?

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  15. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Greg, for the millionth time, I am sorry I’m who you think I am. You continue to show that you’re not as bright as you profess.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Greg, for the millionth time, I am sorry I’m who you think I am.?”
    Thank you for the confession, Jeff. I guess you aren’t as bright as you think.
    That’s Mister Greg to anonymous bomb throwing sock puppets like you, “Jon”, self professed supporter of fine dining in Nevada County.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Hummmm… No spell check help there. A’ “jon”? The rat is out of the bag.(Or HAS been bagged, depending on how one looks at it.)

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  18. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    “I am sorry I am who you think I am.”
    “I yam what I yam what I yam” . . . always suspected Olive Oil was a kind of truth serum.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    How come when someone doesn’t agree with your observation of something, no matter how factual, you are accused of spewing ‘hatred’?? That crap may work with the gruberized in the public forum, but you really have to be dumb to think that it will work with people who read, keep up with happenings, and debate on blogs like RR. So what’s the point of continuing with that inane behavior?

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  20. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The funniest part of it was “Jon”‘s characterizing of the cleansing by rogue Serbs as racist; the Moslems in the Balkans were not Arab immigrants, they were (IIRC) historically mostly Slavs and other peoples of the area who chose to submit to Islam by converting rather than be second class citizens in their own lands under the Ottoman Caliphate.

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 615pm – Union taught history interpreted through liberal logic will do that you know. ‘Forgive them for they know not …’

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jon @ 1535, Sunday.
    Good news, your wait is over!
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/videos/775169129283793/?theater

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Driveby poster: good interesting link @ 13:29. Not much to add to the link, except….
    ……I was wondering why Trump chose Burlington, VT to hold a rally. Come to find out, that is where Bernie was first elected as a socialist mayor 30 years ago. Big Walnuts has Trump, unlike our current POTUS whom a squirrel would starve to death if he ran up his Presidential mom jeans.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nzBgJ7OzC2Q

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Here’s an interesting story about the peace loving Bosnian Muslims who formed the first non-German Waffen-SS unit in WWII, swearing allegiance to Hitler and the Croat strongman Ante Pavelić.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_%281st_Croatian%29
    Paul E, you ignited this with a one sided statement of ethnic Serb crimes… what say you?

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Russ. While we are waiting for Mr. Paul’s response to Gregory, looks like someone has some ‘splaining to do. I don’t expect Paul or little j to follow complex matters, but do you (or Dr. Rebane) think about this?
    http://observer.com/2016/01/hillarys-emailgate-goes-nuclear/
    BTW Gregory, Paul is probably busy digging up some juicy history on some distant obscure Monastery time forgot hundreds of years ago to reply to your “what say you?”

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oh William….this can’t be good for “our gal”!
    From Drudge…..

    PAPER: Hillary EmailGate Goes Nuclear…
    Blumenthal Access to NSA Reports?

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 907pm – I am long on record about Hillary’s email scandal going criminal. This revelation started when every liberal in these pages was dismissing those of us who knew something about the handling of classified materials. More liberal nonsense. As I said, why do you think we have every left leaner (including our Union) hollering about ‘gun violence’ today to put up the smoke screen for Hillary. Expect succinct responses from the Collectivist Cricket Corps.
    Elizabeth Warren, call your office.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    If Hillary gets the cuffs slapped on her The BBQ will commence. “jon” pays for the ribs.
    No LIB “mascot” meat. Drop off a fist full of Jacksons at SPD I will take care of the rest.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Watch me as I plagiarize…..

    “Feminists who watched the videos were horrified, then promptly rushed to Facebook and Twitter to decry the sexism of straight, white Christian men.”

    http://madworldnews.com/muslim-chat-girl-outfit/

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    Word is getting out. Thinking people have known forever that freedom and equality are on opposite ends of a see-saw, hence giving lie to the historical Kool-Aid from the French Revolution – ‘liberte, egalite, fraternite’ – which the socialists have been selling for generations. Today we know that free people are not equal and equal people are not free.
    Speaking of socialism, here a list of socialism’s conundrums from a correspondent. You can be certain that liberals will send their best crickets to resolve these.
    1. America is capitalist and greedy – yet half of the population is subsidized.
    2. Half of the population is subsidized – yet they think they are victims.
    3. They think they are victims – yet their representatives run the government.
    4. Their representatives run the government – yet the poor keep getting poorer.
    5. The poor keep getting poorer – yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.
    6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about – yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Fish @ 8:28am
    Here, let’s put it to music. Tap blank spot for video to appear if you don’t see it.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/videos/775169129283793/?theater
    Dr. Rebane: Despite what our leaders and academics try to shove down our throats, Americans don’t want to be just like the Europeans. Been that way since before 1776. You would think they would get a clue by now.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    For the past 25 years, Americans have hated 3 things: Political correctness, illegal immigration, and Wall Street. Yo elitists, tell us again that Trump is just a passing phenomenon.

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane @ 1102. Good morning. Time for a reset on this.
    That link/e-mail ain’t about Hillary. Yes, we both gobble up the latest on a daily basis concerning this unfolding drama, but me thinks I did not communicate my question to you and Russ in a more precise manner.
    Ok, Hillary requests top secret good Intel from her White House barred friend in the private sector Sydney Bloomenthal whatshisname. The very next day she has best, fullest, latest Intel on Southern Sudan. That is faster than the NSA can produce docs like that. Lightening speed from “her old acquaintance she rarely sees anymore. I have a lot of casual friends.”
    So, just read the last 2-3 paragraphs. If you have any experience in reading reports, do these unclassified doc look legit in your opinion?
    Question #2: Do you agree with the author’s conclusion about how did Syndey get his hands on that sooo quickly? It didn’t come from Hillary. Does he know someone on the inside? Opps, sorry. You don’t know that very last question so have the clerk strike it from the record. Boy, you have been a sour puss lately. Soon your patience will be as shot up as mine is. Face time: 😍

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, maybe this will soften my close personal friend up a wee bit. He has been funny lately.
    http://prntly.com/blog/?p=4006

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 1134am – Very confusing Mr Tozer. Why would State release this email with clearly sensitive information on it, claim it used to be classified, and explicitly appends an ‘unclassified’ footnote? But then, the provenance of the email’s contents are totally uncertain; it could have been cobbled together from a number of sources including adding new wordsmithing to it.
    But one thing seems certain, Sidney has a deep throat in the fed’s intelligence apparatus.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Maybe Bill C. should have stayed in the shadows.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/10/bill-clintons-fbi-head-is/
    Hillary just might have played the “women victimhood card” a few too many times.
    Who might be arrested first? Bill or Hillary?

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  37. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Bessee 1/10/16 15:05 redirected from “Political expediency”
    Your claim that it is impossible to obtain pure CBD is ludicrous. Over 500 different ingredients can be extracted from hemp and refined into their pure form. Liquid Gas chromatography is used to verify the purity of the CBD. Just about any reliable manufacture of CBD will include a certificate of purity. These labs are often the same that make prescription grade FDA approved medicine. Herbal Renewal (statement attached below) is one of the more popular and respected purveyors of medical grade, legal CBD.
    “All of Herbal Renewal’s High CBD Oil products are manufactured in an FDA-registered, state-of-the-art laboratory operated under cGMP (FDA Current Good Manufacturing Procedures) certification and functioning according to all state and federal rules and regulations. An independent scientific testing company conducts extensive tests on each batch using high-tech liquid gas chromatography for verification of purity and consistency of hemp oil CBD content.”

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yo little guy: just another night in Sacramento? Maybe you meant just another night the Peaceful Enlightenment. Hmm. 600 reports of sexual assaults by perps that are asylum seekers AND illegal immigrants that have no right to be in Germany. 600 so far. Oh, must have been some night I tell ya.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/633344/NYE-sex-attacks-planned-600-criminal-complaints

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sudan giving to the Clinton Foundation through a bank that the US Teasury barred from doing business with because of violating Iranian sanctions and drug laundering.? Oh, say it ain’t so. At least State gave Sudan a Washington lobbyist to work our gov’t here legally. Then there is the lobbyist donating to Hillary herself, after donating to the Foundation.
    Wonder why Obama told Hillary in no uncertain terms that Sydney cannot work in his Administration. He’s the boss right? Hmm, seems Hillary was being deceptive per her MO. Nothing new under the Clinton sun. Too many search links to list.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259797/will-hillary-return-money-lobbyist-rape-jihad-daniel-greenfield

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  40. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I recall some one went to jail for doing biz with a sanctioned country. Who was that?

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The pure cbd product being used in the dravet syndrome live patient study is marijuana derived cbd by GW not some hemp oil.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    Don. I’m still trying to figure out how Mr. S got a CWP since he takes a med like that.
    Four words “Under in influence of” The way the “state” sees, and interprets things, Mr. S slipped through.(Good for him!)
    I take meds too because I beat the hell out of myself in my line of work. The paperwork that I have states pretty clearly that I can’t get a CWP because of that. Just because I take it, that’s considered “under the influence.”
    Download the CCW permit paperwork from our own sheriff’s web site.(all 15 pages)
    and give it a read.

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  43. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Uh Bessee, what in the hell are you saying? It sounds like you are reciting words from a Teleprompter or some colorful pamphlet rather than having any clue what you are actually talking about. CBD hemp oil can be extracted from both Sativa and Ruderalis. One is used to get stoned, the other is to make rope. I have MS and under the guidance of the world’s best doctors at UCSF use CBD to treat spacticity (muscle spasms) in my legs and feet. To be honest I don’t know that it works any better than traditional drugs such as Valium or Neurontin, but the side effects are far more tolerable. I truly resent that your pompous, self righteous, prohibitionist delicacies can cast a moral shadow on my medical treatment. You scream about getting the government out of our lives, but somehow your values trump mine. Go fuck yourself.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    So Hillary can trounce Trump?
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/10/white-flight-trump-holds-20-point-lead-over-hillary-among-white-working-class/
    Hillary might be able to buy the LIB elites,but not the working stiffs.

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  45. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Walt- There is no “under the influence” with CBD. I didn’t slip under any fence. More than most, Chief Royal, is well versed in the legalities of MJ and the non psycho properties of some of its quite legal derivatives. I don’t see eye to eye with him on many issues, but he is fair.
    Under the jurisdiction of King Bessee, anyone who possesses grapes, corn, wheat, rye, or barley would be a criminal because said grains can be used to make alcohol.

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  46. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    It’s getting late. Need to go to bed. Grapes are not a grain. Figured I’d get that in before someone made that a pivot point to derail the intent of my post.

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yo Fish and other assorted beloved readers. Favorite Quote of the Day so far this early morn:
    Hillary Clinton’s ankles are too big to shackle.

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