[We now hear the latest from the steroidally augmented politically correct. At Brooklyn’s PS#169 the teachers have banned even the use of the terms ‘Christmas’, ‘Santa Claus’, ‘Thanksgiving’, and several others in school affairs as hearkening back to a time of error and religion. Adding to their decades long progress in neutralizing the American intellect, our educators are opening a second front to extinguish our culture and cultural values. How long until the Left establishes newspeak.gov, an online service for those who demand their daily prophylaxis against being insensitive, racist, homophobic, religionistic, discriminative, …, and foster proper gradations of inclusivity, balance, gender neutrality, global perspective, ecological sensitivity, celebration of transgenderism, … on our road to becoming the new Socialist Person (I almost said ‘Man’)?. gjr]
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226 responses to “Sandbox – 15dec15”
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John,
Sorry to shoot down your newly found comfort in thinking there could be only one person who disagrees with the right wing slant of this board, but you are incorrect. I’ve never registered under any email address remotely close to the one you mentioned. There is another recent imposter (small case) jon, as well as jon.smith who may be playing around with that phony email address. Not sure what you heard from the host.
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FYI since there is no “jeffpelline.com” domain active (there was one that went dormant in ’11), any email address attached to it would seem to be fake or equally dormant.
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“Jon”. I’d be perfectly happy to comment at a local left wing blog (and am here only after His Lardship made it impossible to post there) but unlike Rebane’s sandbox, none that I have found actually stay on point when someone outside their tribe rattles their cage. It degenerates to insults and other ad hominems.
In the meantime, whether or not your true name is Michael P. Anderson, unless you disavow being the Jon that was challenging me and others on the AGW front, you might favor us with an answer regarding the ridiculous “hottest year” claim and its relationship to measured tropospheric temperatures.LikeLike
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George-
As blog moderator I think you can attest that my email address is unique, verifiable, and certainly not, in any way, related to He Who Cannot Tie His Shoes.LikeLike
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Walt
My Dru-Buu (Druid-Buddhist) friends contend it’s their right as Americans to worship as the please on public lands. Their numbers are limited though since naked meditation on river rocks in Mid Winter is of limited appeal.
Ritualistic symbolic reenactments of drinking blood and eating flesh are much more popular and are normally normally held in warm structures in suburban neighborhoods.LikeLike
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“Ritualistic symbolic reenactments of drinking blood and eating flesh are much more popular and are normally normally held in warm structures in suburban neighborhoods.”
Fully clothed too, except in Ferengi neighborhoods.LikeLike
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“Fully clothed too, except in Ferengi neighborhoods” LOL!!!!
Paul. Post your permit and exemption from the state. Otherwise I call BS.
Just because you make up a “faith”, does not mean it’s recognised by “the state”.
Nice try. Otherwise some group would be having orgies down at the river, or Empire state park for that matter as we speak.
(orgies, (in ancient Greece) esoteric religious rituals, especially in the worship of Demeter or Dionysus, characterized in later times by wild dancing, singing,,,etc)
Now don’t forget to add your old world lineage to the excuse.
BTW, Buddhists are not ones to frolic in the buff.
My Son’s significant other is Buddhist.LikeLike
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Gregory. Jon Smith isn’t “jon” the chew toy. J. Smith has some class.
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And an update on the AGW religion. Note to “jon” some “holy sites”( weather stations) are not up to par.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/17/exclusive-noaa-relies-on-compromised-thermometers-that-inflate-u-s-warming-trend/
““The majority of weather stations used by NOAA to detect climate change temperature signal have been compromised by encroachment of artificial surfaces like concrete, asphalt, and heat sources like air conditioner exhausts,” Anthony Watts, a seasoned meteorologist and lead author of the study, said in a statement Thursday.”LikeLike
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Walt
Dru-Budds are a special sect not that common in most places but common here in our Forrest and river lands.
What business does the state have in “recognizing” religions. How do you dio that by filling out some application and turning it into the proper agency? Looks like I’m the real conservative here.LikeLike
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Walt 3:45 There was no confusion on my part.
Paul, no need at all until a sect wants a pot to pee in and a tax exemption.LikeLike
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Walt, Paul is not going to apply for any permit and he don’t need no stinkin’ papers. Hey, if he wants to drink blood, eat flesh, and gawk at sagging buttocks and rock in the sock bosoms , more power to him. Or gawk at barely legals. It is sooo rude to stare.
He probably became a Dru-Buu when their were some younger hot newbies that followed the path. Unfortunately, that was quite a few moons ago and time has not be gracious to all who froglic naked as a jay bird in the poison oak…..down by the river in his van.LikeLike
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0 gives us a ‘reassuring’ off to the islands pep talk. Didn’t he say that just before SB? Was I the only one who noticed that grandpa joe looked like the ventriloquist puppet bitchy old man by that guy who has the purple thing and the chili pepper? Too much too funny stuff going on. LOL
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Bill
The symbolic Blood Drinkers and Flesh Eaters are not Dru-Buus. They are part of some other government approved religion that has their ceremonial sites in residential neighborhoods and commercial districts.LikeLike
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OK Paul, laws don’t apply to “you”.. Got it. ( like I said. A Nevada City thing. Nowhere else BUT here…. Maybe Berkeley)
Thanks Bill for that mental visual. Now I need a drink or two.
Obummer care don’t cover eye damage from seeing old hippies doing their thang nekid.( shudders at the thought)LikeLike
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Waltzed you really have no sense of humor and you believe everything that somebody says. Oh I guess that makes sense because you’re a Donald Trump supporter. Haven’t you ever heard of somebody pulling your leg so to speak? Now don’t take that literally that’s kind of a joke.
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That’s for Walt. Speech recognition does funny things
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Had to make you feel believed, Paul. No one else will. We all know you bow, pray, and give the the church of AGW. Rev. Al Gore thanks you. (his jet needs fuel)
BTW, I know damned well the state park rangers would haul you off for nudity and fire building. There are laws for scaring the forest critters.LikeLike
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hay jon 1413
there can’t be more than one ? you are the imposter…………hay walt given your constant reference to smoking things or drankin thangs perhaps you coulds expound upon your prescription narcotic use, we’ll leave your chain smokin alone for nows, you silly guseLikeLike
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The chew toy is back! Jon Smith has earned my respect. You on the other hand,,,,…..
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Walt, chew toy? You mean what Paul made you look like today? LOL
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I presume this is all left wing propaganda… just a small issue in Greenland..
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-greenland-ice-sheet-20151216-story.htmlLikeLike
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Ok, Paul, just stop at pulling my leg and don’t go any further up, spiritual or not.. Hey, I used to be a fan of Dru Breeze….ah, heck, I still am. Go saints. Glad you like him too.
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BenE 913am – I don’t want to make this point a debate between us. But from your commentary over the years and this comment, it is clear that you know nothing about what being poor and without any discernible alternatives for the future means.
As for what you know about my relationship with today’s young people, I suggest that compared to my ongoing and constant relationship with today’s youth, you really are only knowledgeable from a distant leftwing intellectual perspective of what today’s younger generations know and believe. My relationship with them is immersive, what is yours? The bottom line is that you really don’t know anything about me and are scared shitless to find out for it would destroy your worldview.LikeLike
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Dr. Rebane, the younger Emery coaches little league. Can you say “Jackie Robinson”? Can you say Field of Dreamers?
Ok, all you Jons and jons and dear readers. Mystery solved. Jon and jon and Jonjon are none other than our own Todd. Think about it. Who else says “you can’t make this stuff up” or ROFLOl. Bizarre. Hmmmm.
. What a practical joker Todd is as he pushes the discussion forward. Had me fooled. Opps, Fatius Maxiumus says those things. Bizarre. Is Todd the award whining journalist? Is he Baby Huey and not jon? Is Jon really jon or is jon really jon? Stay tuned tomorrow for more Days of our Many Lives.. . .LikeLike
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Oh boy. Jon (jon) will like this one. Thousands of fine law abiding foreign visitors in the USA had their visas revolved because of terror concerns/connections and our government have absolutely no idea where they are. Maybe they are heading to jon’s abode to seek a good hideout and new identity. Convert quickly, Jon, Now don’t get all excited and lose your head.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/18/feds-cant-say-whereabouts-those-whose-visas-were-revoked-over-terror-threat.htmlLikeLike
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“As for what you know about my relationship with today’s young people, I suggest that compared to my ongoing and constant relationship with today’s youth, you really are only knowledgeable from a distant leftwing intellectual perspective of what today’s younger generations know and believe.”
George, in describing Master Ben I am afraid you must be using a definition of “intellectual” of which I was previously unaware.
Walt, you seem to be unaware there is both a “Jon” with an uppercase J, a “jon” with a lower case j and then variations of jon smith. Get out your reading glasses, the “Posted by:” fonts are small.
Uppercase Jon:
Posted by: Jon | 17 December 2015 at 07:53 PM
Your confusion would be lessened if you would actually think about the last answers you got that you’ve been ignoring… yes, it got warmer in the last 140 years, but only the last 65 could be partially due to CO2 and since about 1998… the troposphere hasn’t warmed and that’s where CO2 driven warming would be coming from. You are conflating evidence of warming (Greenland melt, within natural variations) with the CO2 bogeyman that doesn’t fit with actual measured atmospheric temperatures.
No, the author of the piece on Greenland melt isn’t a flaming lefty… you are, “Jon” (or is it Michael P. Anderson, with Peeline himself as the dark horse alternate).LikeLike
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Another funny satire sparks outrage. Oh, these practical jokers got such a peaceful reaction that Facebook took their Christmas photo down. And it was Mom’s idea. I was amused, but others were not.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/louisiana-familys-christmas-photo-card-222707984.htmlLikeLike
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Gregory 1051pm – Guilty as charged. My standards here are categorical 😉
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Progressive PR Firm Closes Down Over Sexual Harassment And Assault Allegations; The group represented some of the biggest progressive organizations.
You might want to stand back……..as I’m sure that hundreds of “No True Scotsman” arguments are to begin dropping in seconds!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fitzgibbon-media_567330fce4b014efe0d4cb4e
….and from an impeccable news source.LikeLike
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Gregory,
I’m rejecting your troposphere premise. Studies show that the surface and tropospheric models do correlate according to UW scientists. Flaws in the UA-Huntsville research.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/may/15/new-study-finds-a-hot-spot-in-the-atmosphere
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/mar/25/one-satellite-data-set-is-underestimating-global-warmingLikeLike
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A repost just for “jon”.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/17/exclusive-noaa-relies-on-compromised-thermometers-that-inflate-u-s-warming-trend/
Let the cricket fest start.LikeLike
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“BERNIE BLOWS: DNC IN TANK FOR HILLARY!”
Did he really think they weren’t……that alone should disqualify him.
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Walt, you read those daily caller articles. I’ll stay away. Thanks.
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It isn’t just UAH, “Jon” 9:38. The RSS satellite dataset and radiosonde/weather balloon datasets all correlate nicely overall and show “the pause” of the last two decades. Here’s the RSS data in black compared to IPCC-blessed model hindcast/forecasts in yellow
http://images.remss.com/figures/climate/RSS_Model_TS_compare_trop30.png
Read the actual paper… they’re not claiming what you think they are, or what the Guardian wanted them to be saying. The author of those pieces is
http://courseweb.stthomas.edu/jpabraham/ … BS/MS/PhD Mechanical Engineering, a professor of engineering at a university I’d never have applied to (nor, I suspect, would professor Abraham) with as much formal education in meteorology as I have… and he’s a charter member of the so-called Climate Science Rapid Response Team, a pure propaganda effort to throw mud on heretics. Please note I don’t consider “propaganda” to be purely negative, or indicative of falsehoods. It’s mostly just an indication that weaknesses of the point being made are kept under wraps as to not distract with the point of view they’re pushing on the reader.
The Guardian is not a neutral observer and provide hot-links to an unscientific climate activist site … not to mention the utterly false “consensus-97-per-cent” it is filed under. The AMS published the paper their Journal of Climate, and the AMS professional membership last year split 52/48 on whether the warming of the last century was predominantly anthropogenic or predominantly natural; hardly a 97% number which has been faked from a number of angles… in a show of hands, 26 vs 24 would be called by the chair as evenly split The AMS poll is the only poll of actual scientists I’ve heard of, in contrast to reading tea leaves or entrails by true believers, which is what the Cook/Oreskes determinations were based upon.LikeLike
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“Jon’s” aversion to reading someone else’s bible illustrates the difference between Presbylutherans and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Walt, it helps to cite primary sources. Here is the same information direct from the AGU website.
https://fallmeeting.agu.org/2015/files/2015/12/Press-Release-NEW-STUDY-OF-NOAA-USHCN.pdf
To summarize over “Jon” holding both hands over his ears and chanting na na na na I can’t hear you na na na, if one narrows down the terrestrial temperature sensors to those that are both conforming to guidelines for siting and unmoved over the years of the sample,there is about half the warming than has been claimed in the US.LikeLike
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“jon” is just a “true believer” NO amount of facts will change that. The news of the AGW weather stations being in heat sinks is not new. Those facts have been out for years.
The “jon” loves to shoot the messenger. Yet still ignores the message.LikeLike
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The FEDS sure threw a monkey wrench into the works with that interest rate hike.
The bottom has dropped out of the DOW. Down 5oo points and falling since that “wise” move.LikeLike
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And here is a good one.. LOOK who the IRS employs.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/tin-man-in-gun-arrest-628934
You gotta suspect he’s a Progressive. An IRS employee who’s a Repub? ( what’s the Vegas odds on that?)LikeLike
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Walt, yes, I truly believe in human induced climate change. YES.
So do most humans on this planet who have looked at the totality of the evidence, not to mention the majority of Americans as well.LikeLike
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Walt, you didn’t put on your readers like I told you to. The sock-puppet I’m sparring with is “Jon”, not “jon”; uppercase “Jon” is the one I think is probably Michael P. Anderson and is the one active at the moment
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BS on the ‘jon’ the UN international survey of issues and the American issues polls show clearly no one is buying what you are selling. LOL 😉
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Annie Fox says: December 18, 2015 at 11:14 am
I’m missed! Hi there fish! Merry Christmas!
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jeffpelline says: December 18, 2015 at 11:20 am
Be careful, Annie. We don’t want to get fish too excited that someone acknowledged him. LOL.
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Oh jeffy…it’s the holiday season…..put “annie” back in her box for a while.
Go downtown……walk……c’mon…. it’ll be good for you to get out and see a real human being.LikeLike
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Jon 12:45
“Walt, yes, I truly believe in human induced climate change. YES.
So do most humans on this planet who have looked at the totality of the evidence, not to mention the majority of Americans as well.”
But only a bare majority of the scientists at the AMS think anthropogenic forcings are half or more of the warming of the last century… from all causes. CO2, other emissions, land use patterns, soot, other aerosols. Half.
You guys are on a downhill slope. The right wingers need to lighten up… the longer the “progressive left” drive costs up for no good reason, pounding down heretics wherever they are willing to stand up, the longer they will be laughingstocks once everyone can see the Emperor’s New Clothes.
Obama’s place in history is probably already sealed.LikeLike
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..yes indeed, as the first US President who recognized Climate Change for its devastating future impacts, and took actions accordingly.
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“..yes indeed, as the first US President who recognized Climate Change for its devastating future impacts, and took actions accordingly.”
Br’er Jon, bless you for citing the prophecies of the IPCC so faithfully. Now admit who you really are, for posterity. My name is really Gregory and I think everyone here knows my last name which I’ve dropped only so that the usual suspects who just want to throw slime will have to add that in if there motivation is to trash me in web searches.LikeLike
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ummm, their motivation
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Note to the “true believers” Jon “jon”s,,, “climate” has been changing since before time.
It will do so no matter what. Your “crew” will never keep it “just the way you like it”.
Somehow you guys think you can manipulate what goes on on this blue marble. It will do as it pleases.
The Sun has the biggest impact on global temps. Now it’s in it’s cooling phase.
What will you yayhoos do about that? Do you welcome a new cooling and claim your side “won”?
All your “experts” made wild claims over the years.Let’s just stick with the last 20.
ALL those “predictions” have come up empty. NO glaciers have disappeared. There is still ice at the poles.(Predictors said otherwise)
The Equator is still inhabited, and not a charcoal cinder. (as predicted by 2015)
Frisco isn’t underwater. Folsom isn’t beach front property.
Oh Ya!! how bout that “ozone hole”?? That was supposed to mean the end as well!
Cancel doomsday.(again)
So Just where have your “experts” been right in all those years of fortune telling?LikeLike
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Wow Walt, that’s a pretty damn unorganized, jumbled, chaotic mess of falsehoods and wild exaggerations, even under your standards!
Back on planet earth, glaciers continue receding at the fastest rate, ever.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/08/05/3688186/glacial-pace-now-means-very-very-fast/LikeLike
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