226 responses to “Sandbox – 15dec15”

1. 

   Todd Juvinall

   19 December 2015

   I am low class Gregory. Kesti is right. But it is in the eye of the beholder. I do not diss anyone here who is not a libnut. Now that is classy.
   John is correct about Paul Emery. He called me some names and they are nor true and refuses to retrack. What is that called?

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   Paul Emery

   20 December 2015

   Todd
   Okay let me reconsider my branding you a sexist racist but first do this.
   On it’s own a statement like “We “white males” of America are the engine of progress and the world is so much better off.”is meaningless without some form of thoughtful analysis to gather that conclusion. Can you give me some insight into your research in that matter? In that analysis please equate the value of child rearing and family responsibilities and the time frame you attribute your research to.
   Also as a dig let me ask you how many women have started wars?

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   Gregory

   20 December 2015

   Paul, that backhanded and insincere “reconsideration” IMO puts you lower on the class rung than Todd.
   Still on the Dark Side you are.

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   Paul Emery

   20 December 2015

   Gregory
   I am giving Todd an opportunity to change my mind that he is a racist sexist. I’m a reasonable guy with an open mind and am willing to admit a mistake.

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   fish

   20 December 2015

   Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 19 December 2015 at 05:21 PM
   John is correct about Paul Emery. He called me some names and they are nor true and refuses to retrack. What is that called?
   Todd please note the following:
   

   “I am giving Todd an opportunity to change my mind that he is a racist sexist. I’m a reasonable guy with an open mind and am willing to admit a mistake.”

   This is a rhetorical device found on the first page of the lefty/SJW playbook. Accuse you of something and then magnanimously give you the opportunity to defend yourself. Rest assured there is nothing you can do or say that will change Mr. Emerys mind. He was sure you were a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, etc. before this latest exchange even started. He will feel the same no matter what evidence you provide to the contrary.
   Were I you I’d tell Mr. Emery to do his own fucking homework if he’s curious as to the historical contributions of white men.

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   Paul Emery

   20 December 2015

   George
   In the past you have supported education being administrated on a local level. When you witness situations like you describe above how best should it be “corrected”, on a local, city, county, State or Federal level?

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   drivebyposter

   20 December 2015

   “Also as a dig let me ask you how many women have started wars?”
   P. Emery
   That’s a good question. I can think of a few. Boudica, Zenobia, Catherine the Great, Elizabeth I. I would guess it’s more a matter of the job description than it is gender.

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   Paul Emery

   20 December 2015

   Fish
   If I were to make a statement like “Whites are more intelligent than blacks” in your mind would that be racist?

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9. 

   fish

   20 December 2015

   Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 December 2015 at 06:22 PM
   Is that what Todd said?

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10. 

    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    Lets not forget Golda Meir and Joan d’Arc.

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11. 

    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    “Is that what Todd said?”
    No, that’s Paul hitting below the belt… its what one does when they fight dirty intending injury.

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12. 

    fish

    20 December 2015

    Posted by: Gregory | 20 December 2015 at 06:46 PM
    That was my assumption but hey, “I’m a reasonable guy with an open mind and am willing to admit a mistake.”……..lets see if Paul can produce the “Smoking Gun”.

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    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    Isabella I of Spain not only started a war or two, she forced the deportation of Moslems and Jews who refused to convert. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
    So much for the moral superiority of females… but it’s so politically correct to believe it so.

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14. 

    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    Margaret bloody Thatcher!

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15. 

    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    Paul, what is worse, an Archie Bunker ignorant bigot, or a [insert name here] oh so sympatico progressive suffering from the soft bigotry of low expectations? Which do more damage to black families?

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    drivebyposter

    20 December 2015

    “If I were to make a statement like “Whites are more intelligent than blacks” in your mind would that be racist?”
    P.Emery
    Another good question. What’s your opinion on the matter?

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17. 

    George Rebane

    20 December 2015

    PaulE 611pm – Local level worked well there, and I believe the experience is easy to replicate all over the land. Recall, that it was national political correctness that caused the ‘educator’ to ban all those traditional terms in the first place.
    Re racism and being a racist, I have contributed the following –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/07/who-is-a-racist.html

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    Paul Emery

    20 December 2015

    RE Driveby 7:29
    Yes, racist because it implies that one race is superior to another. The next logical step is that the superior race would have privileges and status above others re Nazi Germany

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19. 

    Gregory

    20 December 2015

    Paul you read into Todd’s words what your bigotry leads you to believe… I’ve never seen you give a conservative the breaks you give your own tribe.
    Post Civil War America has been the engine of prosperity for the world; not because the majority was white and superior, but because they got it done. In fact, the white British in the 19th century were often pissed at how Americans outproduced British factories with British machines that Americans .made even better had little to do with the skin color they had in xommon or the common language that separated them.
    It’s culture, it’s physical and intellectual capital. Natural resources, the first major country formed by truly liberal men who rose to the occasion, the first stable Republic formed by kicking out monarchist England, the major world power of the day.
    Freedom isn’t just a Yang worship word.
    Nazi? Thanks for your Godwin forfeit, allowing to respond. Check out the animation Jeffie thinks is appropriate for thought: if you can’t see the same sort of dehumanizing employed by brownshirt Germany in the ’30’s, you’re in denial.
    The left sees bigotry and racism everywhere they look unless it’s inward and that’s a direction they should look more often.

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20. 

    drivebyposter

    21 December 2015

    So, if I make the observation that men are taller than women, it’s sexist? Because Hitler?
    I get it.
    Given the modern propensity to build third rails for opinion, these kinds of discussions are best left alone. The tendency is to build verbal traps for those who are least able to deal with modern catechisms. Opinions are best held by those who are retired, self-employed, or have had an itinerant work life. As a FTE, I can only brush this kind of thing.
    My own view is that over time, what is viewed as proper opinion will become more codified and we will pass from mob rule on what is viewed as correct thinking to building a proper nomenklatura. The game is already lost and the screws will continue to tighten as a proper surveillance society sets in. It’s really nothing to fret about, it’s all happened before.

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21. 

    fish

    21 December 2015

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 December 2015 at 06:22 PM
    Fish
    If I were to make a statement like “Whites are more intelligent than blacks” in your mind would that be racist?
    So….its been 12 hours…….I guess we expect a retraction from you regarding Todds purported racism?

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22. 

    Bill Tozer

    21 December 2015

    This may appear racists and sexist, but I prefer a white woman smoking a cig over that black pussie siting in the Oval Office sneaking his cig.
    http://ij.com/2015/12/496565-dear-isis-america-has-the-ultimate-weapon-with-unspeakable-power-and-her-name-is-linda/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM7&utm_campaign=

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23. 

    Bill Tozer

    21 December 2015

    Forget sexism. Racism is where it is at. The human race.
    https://www.facebook.com/WhisperApp/photos/a.424652490884618.119983.424639800885887/1239131389436720/?type=3&theater

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24. 

    Paul Emery

    21 December 2015

    No retraction unless Todd gives us some kind of criteria for his statement. What information and values does he use to come to that assumption? Todd speaks first then thinks later. Probably why he’s disappeared from this conversation. That will not serve him well in his campaign for District i Supervisor if he decides to do that.

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25. 

    fish

    21 December 2015

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 December 2015 at 08:56 AM
    No retraction unless Todd gives us some kind of criteria for his statement.
    The cries for self-incrimination…..mothers milk for the SJW.

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26. 

    Paul Emery

    21 December 2015

    Just a reminder to readers that this critique against me comes largely from those who had no objection to Larry Wirth referring to President Obama as a Coon.
    “Watch the C(oon) in Chief close Gitmo, free the detainees, and then hand over the real estate to the bros Castro as he’s leaving office. Final piece to his “legacy,” fulfilling one last campaign promise from 2008. Any bets for this not happening from folks on this blog? Thought not.”
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/10/sandbox-4oct15.html?cid=6a00e54f86f2ad883301b7c7da7e43970b#comment-6a00e54f86f2ad883301b7c7da7e43970b

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