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George Rebane

The local Left joins the national Left in their happy dance about the ‘Climate Change agreement’ reached in Paris this week.  What they don’t seem to appreciate is that it will have about as much impact on earth’s climate, no matter how widely it is accepted or rejected, as does the Iran deal have on that country’s development of nuclear weapons.  It is all a desperate search for some optics to bolster the community organizer’s legacy and support heir apparent Hillary’s campaign.

The humorous part of their awareness spills over to more immediate concerns about economics and development of the local economy.  For openers our devout Democrats are overjoyed that California is on the upswing in job creation and corporate formation.  The feds (Census Bureau) recently tried quietly to pour some calming water on these breathless reports, pointing out that one fifth of California’s population lives in poverty, the state has the highest poverty rate in the nation, and the largest fraction receiving welfare of one kind or another.  And our unemployment rate (5.7%) remains doggedly above the national average no matter how the numbers are tortured.

But the real knee slapper is that the local Left has finally discovered STEM and the benefits that jobs in that sector bestow upon those who can do numbers among other things.  I was pointed to one loud local luminary who now advertises a ‘how to’ posting on lifting the local economy – he advises we become a major STEM employer.  Now sumbich, why didn’t the rest of us think about that ten years ago?!  The knarly part is that their ‘how to’ isn’t a ‘how to’ at all – liberals have no clues in this department – but only a ‘what if we only could’ dissertation.  One worthy even uses Boulder,CO as a template for Nevada County, apparently ignorant of the extensive workshop put on by our ERC last January that also featured Boulder in its unsuccessful attempt at a ‘how to’ for us.  It turned out then and does still today that Boulder and Nevada County have almost nothing in common save some H. Sapiens inhabitants.

Many of us in Nevada County have known for years (at least a generation?) that STEM is the third and now wobbly leg of our local economy, the other two being tourism and the retirees.  (I don’t want to include government because it brings to mind shuttered socialist towns like Lakeview, OR.)  But the promotion of STEM employment here is a longstanding effort that is made difficult by our politically correct econut faction and the obstacles they place and maintain in the path of any development.  That kind of opposition is endemic across the state, but it really impacts low population rural counties, especially those off the beaten path and not in the armpit of a coastal urban area.

Among other things, I would like to see the establishment of a technical high school in the county that would form a tight bond with our local Sierra College campus and also expand its STEM curriculum.  The NC Technical High School would focus on preparing kids for degree and certification based STEM careers.  Such a high school would most likely require a merit based entrance exam such as the existing SESF sponsored TechTestJr taken annually by county eighth graders.  No feel good politically correct or artsy-fartsy curriculum paths would be offered, there are already enough of those in our county.  NCTHS would draw in the elite kids who can, and as such would also be an attractant for the kind of parents who see value in putting their offspring into educational programs that lead to rewarding wealth generating careers.  Who knows what would follow such a successful initiative?

I predict that the Left would oppose this approach because promoting such highly discriminating education does not guarantee a reliable klatch of liberal voters upon matriculation.

[14dec12 update] The post conference drumbeat about green jobs from Obama and Kerry is getting louder again.  These socialists, as the many failed before them, continue to believe that imposing government mandated markets to supply unwanted products to enable citizens and businesses to comply to unneeded regulations counts as creating new jobs.

Any fool (well, not quite) knows that with a gun you can force people to do what they would not do if not forced. Were I a tyrant I could mandate that life-sized paper mache statues of me would be placed at every city street corner.  Since inclement weather is rough on such artifacts, new ones would have to be emplaced every time it rains.  The businesses and towns would be required to buy them, and the manufactories would be subsidized to keep supplying them.  The requirement for implementing such an enterprise would create thousands of jobs in the land, but to what productive end?

This is effect is doubly true when forcing private individuals and commercial enterprises to dance to the tidal wave of new green laws and regulations that are supposed prevent a global warming catastrophe. Our know-nothing elites even argue that these mandates will also induce economic growth.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Were these diktats shown to actually create wealth, no government guns would be required.  That they don’t and cannot explains why force must be used to guarantee the required response from the rest of us.

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91 responses to “Local Left Situationally Unaware (updated 14dec15)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Na Todd It was bush who did the auto bailouts in ’08
    ” President George W. Bush stepped in Friday to keep America’s auto industry afloat, announcing a $17.4 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler, with the terms of the loans requiring that the firms radically restructure and show they can become profitable soon.
    “If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy,” Bush said at the White House, in remarks carried live by the national broadcast networks. “In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action. The question is how we can best give it a chance to succeed.”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2008/12/bush-announces-174-billion-auto-bailout-016740#ixzz3uMcPaPUJ

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  2. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul – Obama GAVE Govt Motors 54 big ones. Bush LOANED much less. Ford got nothing but screwed.
    How in the world (besides being stupid) does your reply to my post invalidate anything I said about the govt bailouts?
    Govt Motors Bond holders were completely swindled out of their money that was owed by law.
    Oh yeah – socialism really SAVED us.
    If we had just let the chips fall as they might, we would have recovered in maybe a year or less. Well, “we” being those who were savy and careful. The greedy, stupid and crooked would have been hung out to dry. But “they” were “saved” by socialism. Way to go, socialism.
    Really, Paul – were you that stoned? It wasn’t that long ago.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    PE, you may want to include the years subsequent to that initial action in the discussion, that’s where it turned into redistribution of wealth.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    So you believe that TARP, enacted under the Bush Admin was a big mistake.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Concerning the update to this post, Yo Jon, India good!
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/india-says-paris-climate/2345998.html
    Oh yeah, China will consider to commence to think about playing along in 2030…if they are so inclined. 2 of the 3 world’s largest nations by population say go pound sand…for now. There is always hope that someday, somewhere over the rainbow……
    Hansen was correct when he said the Paris Pact was a fraud. At least the US is giving island nations another 700 million to combat rising oceans. When I think of Haiti and the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, they each need a heck of a lot more than 700 million each just to stay afloat, with or without rising sea levels.

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 14 December 2015 at 06:12 PM
    FDR saved Capitalism from itself, hence Ralph Nader quote “Capitalism will never fail because socialism will always be there to bail it out”

    I know this is difficult for you…..and Ralph….but the beauty of capitalism is failure and that the moment it was “bailed out” it ceased to be capitalism. Bad enough to have socialists enabling bad behavior…. worse still that they don’t appear to understand that they’re enabling bad behavior.

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  7. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish,
    Let me make this as simple as possible. Capitalism would have been replaced by another form of economic system if it weren’t for FDR. Do you understand?

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  8. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    14 December 2015 at 06:19 PM
    Yes George,
    FDR shifted away from the rugged individualist mentality and brought a new zeitgeist to the nation of “We” are in this together. And NO FDR didn’t invent the idea as you misinterpreted from the statement. If President Sanders pulls American soldiers out of Afghanistan it will be introducing a new philosophy and strategy that isn’t an original idea but rather a shift away from the status quo.

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  9. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    The roblem Ben is that they don’t want to be in this together. They hate that idea. They really don’t want to be part of the United States, don’t really want to be part of Planet Earth. No respect for anyone else on this planet except their little angry corp of “god fearing” right wingers.

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  10. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul – my point was that ‘socialism’ – ie, govt meddling and bailouts – didn’t save us at all. It rewarded the rats and screwed the innocent.
    Your fixation on Bush is ludicrous. I don’t give a small rodent’s behind WHO is in charge of socialism, it doesn’t work.
    Of course TARP was a joke – Bush even admitted it was a mistake.
    The American auto industry was largely hurting but would have been able to make it without any govt intervention whatsoever. BMW, Toyota, Subaru, Mercedes Benz and Ford would just keep making cars and Chrysler and Govt Motors would go through reorganization.
    The Chinese would have scooped up GM for sure. Guess where the ‘saved’ Govt Motors is opening new plants? That’s right, China. Wow – we gave them 54 billion so they could then open plants in China.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Jon | 15 December 2015 at 07:40 AM
    You are a troll, we are real people. We love the planet and its people. We actually pay for your lifestyle and your bills since you are on the dole. What a hoot!

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    ScottO, Paul Emery is fixated on Bush and I have come to the conclusion he has a illness about it. So maybe some meds and a few prayers would help him through the day?

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    It’s always been the case that conservatarian arguments address the specific and explicit tenets of the leftist arguments. But to make their points, the liberals have to put their own words into the other’s mouth or launch into hyperboles like conservatives really “don’t want to be a part of the United States, don’t really want to be part of Planet Earth.” For them that is the pinnacle of argument.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    No fixation on Bush Todd I just had to remind you that is was the bushman who first sent bailout bucks to the Auto industry not Obama. Not only do you have a math and reading problem you also have a short memory and almost no conception of contemporary history.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery | 15 December 2015 at 08:40 AM
    Paul Emery, my history is just fine. You are the person with the problem. Good luck.

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 840am – Yes, Bush2 and a strongly Democratic Congress managed TARP as I pointed out in my 817pm. That did not allow the markets to clear but did save the status quo of the auto industry. Obama made things worse through successive QEs that have given us not a recovery but what historians will see as Depression2.

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 15 December 2015 at 06:57 AM
    Fish,
    Let me make this as simple as possible. Capitalism would have been replaced by another form of economic system if it weren’t for FDR. Do you understand?

    Oh I absolutely understand…..and it would have been what you guys always think is best……some form of a “command and control” system with edicts promulgated from the D.C. production board. It’s the lefts default position on matters economic.
    We’ve already had a sniff of it from your preferred candidate….”Phlegmy Bern”…..with still another false equivalency…“…nobody needs 23 kinds of deodorant when there are children going hungry in America”. One can only assume that should Mr. Sanders blunder into the White House each and every one of us will have an opportunity to work at “Glorious Deodorant Factory #1” where the approved scent for the masses will be produced….not sure what that is going to do about those hungry children but I’m sure he means well.
    And isn’t that all that counts in modern governance.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 15 December 2015 at 07:40 AM
    The roblem Ben is that they don’t want to be in this together. They hate that idea. They really don’t want to be part of the United States, don’t really want to be part of Planet Earth. No respect for anyone else on this planet except their little angry corp of “god fearing” right wingers.

    Clutch those pearls……..HARDER…clutch em jon. I love it when you guys flail away at psychoanalysis!

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    If I didn’t know better, Brother Ben just repeated The Bern’s campaign speech. Yes, I feel the Bern quite nicely, thank you.
    Poor Ben. I was waiting for another long history lesson in white priveledge just as soon as this BLM thang got the get-up-and-go momentum and we would be naughty boys here for trashing the Black Students Matter (with the token white chick with protest sign always on the left of center) as it rocked the Nation. But, nooooooo, that Paris thing (the mass murders, not the mass thuggery 2 weeks later) just blew the whole street creed Movement back a year.
    Then, just as things were quieting down, I was waiting for The Bern to grap some headlines and the ensuring economic (in historical context) lessons from Brother Ben about some self avowed Socialist who choose to go to The Soviet Union for his honeymoon or some wacky rumor like that. But, noooooo. This San Burdo thing blew The Bern’s message right off the first 6 pages as well. Poor guy, can’t catch a break.
    The last thing The Bern needs is the national attention to zero in foreign affairs and national security. But, Brother Ben did get The Bern’s economic message out this fine morning. When there is a will, there is a way.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jon, I was going to say that time period of middleclass prosperity that ended in 79/80 was when Jimmy the Peanut Farmer ruled the roost. But Dr. Rebane beat me to it.
    Hey, those were good times! I bought a CD down at Wells Fargo for 10% interest locked in for 20 years, lol. That was just a measly safe and sound CD. People were glad to find a mortgage loan at 14% with points. Them were the days my friend, you thought they would never end. But they did. Oh, don’t forget the year lag time it takes for things to filter through the whole economy. Jimmy was just before his time. That is why I voted for him in 76.

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  21. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish, Fish, Fish such a babe in the woods. The only way capitalism corrects itself is through innocent people being injured. Do you or a loved one want to be the victim of a drug that will kill or permanently maim? With market corrections we have to wait for innocent people to be injured unnecessarily. FDR saved capitalism from itself and we have reversed enough of FDR security precautions that capitalism is on the brink of destroying itself once again. Hopefully this time around we actually create a new model that protects us from such gross abuses.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 15 December 2015 at 08:03 PM
    Funny that in our discussion of FDR “saving capitalism from itself” you use as an example the FDA….this an enhancement of earlier legislation enacted by cousin Teddy….something that no economic historian or economist ever mentions when repeating the trope. I’m fascinated to know why you thought that the bank holiday, gold confiscation, and the whole host of programs (CCC, WPA, etc.) of questionable effect but can be used to at least advance the argument weren’t cited?

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Master Ben’s view also implies capitalists think killing customers is okey-dokey… even without liability law that can bankrupt companies and the fact that individuals within a company who, either wilfully or by negligence, do harm, remain civilly and criminally liable.
    Then there’s the even sillier notion that the motives of public bureaucrats are pure.
    The fact remains that by raising costs and erecting barriers to new drugs and devices, the FDA also kills people. There is no free lunch.

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  24. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “No fixation on Bush Todd I just had to remind you that is was the bushman who first sent bailout bucks to the Auto industry not Obama. ”
    P. Emery.
    I seem to remember that it was Jimmy Carter, my memory must be fading.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It just occurred to me that besides the kneeslapper that Nevada County’s economic woes would be fixed were we to become Boulder CO, they were also earlier claiming we should be Ashland OR… another college town that has earned its tourism with a well-earned reputation for live theater productions.
    When I arrived in Nevada County 22 years ago there were 2,000 employees at the Grass Valley Group alone but it had already been bought by Tektronix nearly two decades earlier with its destiny in their hands; those days are gone and the current trend is for successful companies to sell out to foreign corporations that are less burdened by state and federal corporate taxes… and no matter how good the Nevada County operations are, if the headquarters are out of state or out of country, the well being of local to us offices will not be on their minds.
    We do not have business friendly local governments and I don’t see that being fixed anytime soon.
    When I dropped out of Cisco to be a full time dad after my wife died, my plan A was to end up at the Group when our dust settled but when the Group got bought by Thomson, a company that screwed me out of the patent for pipeline MPEG decoders to give it to the French video engineering star at SGS-Thomson, I knew that was a losing proposition… as one GVG manager told a friend of mine… ‘Thomson management will make Tek look good’.
    Sierra College isn’t a Ashland State and it’s even less a CU at Boulder, which is arguably a peer to UC Berkeley.
    “What a maroon! What an ignoranimus!”. Bugs Bunny on Jeff Peeline.
    [Note to Jeff, I prefer the period to follow the closing double quote as it better follows c/c++ grammar; feel free to choke on it again]

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  26. Walt Avatar

    I do believe Driveby hit his target, as he rounded the corner. Carter bailed out Chrysler. Remember the disposable “K” car?
    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1983/07/the-chrysler-bail-out-bust

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  27. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Give drive by a cigar… Lee Iacocca put on the kneepads to get a bailout for Chrylser in 1979. Obama then gave Chrysler to Italy’s FIAT.
    Chrysler had earned failure fair and square by 1979 and the country would have been better off had it been allowed to be reorganized under bankruptcy law (perhaps into oblivion) then.
    I recall a Carson joke when the K-car was premiered… something like ‘Lee Iacocca showed off the first k-car today… if they manage to sell it they’ll build another one’.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Driveby
    It was Bush in 2008, as I documented earlier, who bailed out Auto as part of TARP.

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  29. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, I realize you like to portray presidents as if they were kings when it suits you but Bush in his last term had Pelosi and Reid in control of the legislature and was in no position to hold his breath until the legislature turned blue.
    that, like the Carter era help for Chrysler, were loan guarantees not actual takeovers like the Obama effort… which bailed out union pensions and health insurance more than anything else, screwing creditors and stockholders… including the widow McGillicuddy down the street.

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  30. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    “Sierra College isn’t a Ashland State” Gregory 12:09
    Ashland State? Never heard of it. The college in Ashland is Southern Oregon University.
    thanks.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    close enough Jon. now do a new culpa on your claim it’s never 65 in NYC in December.

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  32. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    mea culpa… damn autocorrect

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  33. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    BTW both the sensitivity over the proper name of ashland state and the insincere “thanks” is very reminiscent of the long absent Michael P. Anderson who I’ve pegged as the one fisting “Jon” on multiple occasions.

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yes, a lot of the ‘jons’ hereabout suddenly.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    A massive point of error and also a litmus test for progressive membership. As witnessed above, capitalism is just another economic system to socialists who don’t understand human nature, and have subsequently created the most murderous governments in human history. Not so, capitalism is not just another centrally planned economic order, but a strong attractant for commercial activity to which societies naturally migrate when given the freedom to do so.

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  36. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Paul – if you’re going to act like a snotty little know-it-all, it might be helpful to get your facts straight.
    You claim you ‘had’ to remind us of something that wasn’t even true.
    The govt had (and has) no business picking winners and losers in private business.
    It doesn’t matter who is the pres when it happens – it’s wrong.
    And you might at some point between tokes look up the difference between loaning money and giving it away.
    There’s a slight difference.

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  37. George Rebane Avatar

    Here’s how absolutely unaware the national Left is. “Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are a peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.” – Hillary Clinton, 19 November 2015. This idiot wants to be our next president, and untold others will vote for her. Sarah Palin accomplished more in a partial term as Alaska’s governor than Hillary Clinton has in her entire public life. Go figger.

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  38. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Scott and George R. I really enjoy your common sense opinions. What’s your take on Ann Coulters latest article? I’m inclined to think that America’s problems aren’t much different than with our neighbors who may live next door. If the couple can’t get along, booze, fight and spend themselves into bankruptcy, but instead of changing their ways they each blame the other. If you stick your nose into their business you become the enemy they resent for not minding your own business. Meanwhile you’re so involved in their delinquency problems that you don’t take care of your own at home. Here’s what Ann’s article says about the last Republican debate: http://humanevents.com/2015/12/16/its-time-for-the-other-13-candidates-to-drop-out/?utm_source=coulterdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Islam has been around for 1500 years. It accomplishes its goals of land ownership in the name of Allah. They used force. Believe or die. The Islamic nations are still living in the 6th century. And their tactics of believe or die are still their mainstay.
    America started in 1776. We allow all religions even the head chopper religion. We live in the now. Our country has saved millions around the world and we rejected colonies. Capitalism has allowed the creation of millions of inventions helping people in their daily lives. We have sent trillions in aid money to other countries. Our parents defeated fascism and our distant relatives fought to free the slaves at a cost of a million young men.
    And the readers of this blog and the comments of the libnuts like Paul Emery and “jon” and others would never even credit the sacrifices of those long dead fighting for us to have the rights we have. They have to be mentally ill.

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    BonnieM 546pm – Coulter makes the good point that Trump has tapped into what Americans think and are concerned about. I believe in the next part of the campaign he has to demonstrate to the electorate that he has the details and the temperament to effectively address those concerns. Then he’ll be a shoo-in.
    Here’s what Peggy Noonan wrote about the situation –
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/primary-preview-the-brawl-vs-the-blob-1450399034

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