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[Time for some fresh sand. I'm concerned that we don't have a viable declared candidate in Nevada County's District #1 to oppose Ms Heidi Hall for Supervisor. Anyone have any ideas? gjr]

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272 responses to “Sandbox – 1nov15”

  1. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    George, nothing except your occasional relating of Estonian heritage and stories- perhaps you have insight. Don’t know why Estonia in particular would be so secular.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Thank goodness these muggers are being sent out of the country. I recognize a few of their mugs from my last trip to the Post Office.
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-paris-delegation-donors-html-20151104-htmlstory.html

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  3. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd,
    Funny how millions of American Muslims like my friends are peace loving, productive citizens who hold honorable values, exactly in line with documented Christian values. Or do you really believe most American Muslims secretly plotting behind our backs the whole time with their allies overseas?…

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yawn, reading through hundreds of reports a lot more graphic than this link for beginners:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424001/syrian-refugees-europe-mistake
    Something must have got lost in the translation.
    http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/09/migrants-discuss-raping-robbing-other-travelers/I

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Jon | 05 November 2015 at 05:41 PM
    Perhaps upi should read some history “jon”. That will make you a little smarter. You seem to be pretty closed minded. Your faith is not one of peace or trustworthiness. As I said though, you are ignorant and a useful idiot to enable comparisons between empty liberal noggins and ours that are full of knowledge and experience.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Hey a coupe of things. Had a nice meeting today about the Supe race. Wink wink.
    Democrat AG in Pennsylvania is under arrest or some such thing, for PORN! And she has the goods on others in high places, all democrats, and is releasing the info on them. What was the democrat mantra in 2004. Institutional corruption? Yep, looks like a great opportunity to get some more R’s in Pennsylvania and some surrounding states.

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  7. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Having grown up in a country divided betwen two waring factions of “Christians” I feel pretty much like a peacenik by being an atheist. The blood from a Catholic car bomb doesn’t smell any different from that a Protestant’s. I’ve never smelled the blood from a Muslim car bomb, but my guess is that it has the same stink. I think it can rightfully be called a religious stench. Every believer “knows” the better path and can kill his enemy in the name of God and be at peace then go back to dinner with his family.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    joe smith | 05 November 2015 at 06:17 PM
    JoeS, I think you are incorrect. Christians in America and Canada are peaceful people. No car bombs from a American Christian but I could be wrong. If you can list all those car bombs please do.

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  9. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Ahhh. Another secular division. “American” Christians. I don’t think the Pope would wash your feet on that basis.

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  10. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Ever hear of Eric Rudolph, radical Christian?

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  11. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd, just what is my faith? I thought I was a lefty, a Commie, and once called a pagan by someone here. Now a Muslim (LOL)! Which is it- can you make up your damn mind? Is there such a thing as a Communist Muslim? LOL. You right wingers are all in knots with your incoherent bigoted rants.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    My discussion was concerning Rummy and Cheney not Bush.
    RE George 05 November 2015 at 02:49 PM
    My justifiable reasons for going to war are pretty basic Libertarian values. Self defense and protecting our borders. Your justifications for the Iraq war are practical and basic Imperialism. The problem is that strategic resources was not the reason presented to the American people and Congress as a justification for war in Iraq. It was WMD’s which was bogus. Yes, Rumsfeld and Cheney knew, there’s not a doubt in my mind.
    Here are some Libertarian basics George that I recommend you read by Ron Paul. It is by far the most articulate expression as to why the war in Iraq was wrong and our foreign police a reciepe for thdecline of the American Empire. Read this then get back to me.
    “Many reasons have been given for why we fight and our youth must die in Iraq. The reasons now given for why we must continue this war bear no resemblance to the reasons given to gain the support of the American people and the United States Congress prior to our invasion in March of 2003. Before the war, we were told we faced an imminent threat to our national security from Saddam Hussein……………
    http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=7213

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  13. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish,
    The basis of Sharia law is that religious interpretation(God) is supreme law. I encourage you to watch this very enlightening program on reading terms of agreement.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumancentiPad#PlotPlot
    Plot
    After Cartman mocks the other students for not having an iPad, it is revealed that he himself does not have one, much to his humiliation. Meanwhile, Kyle, who did not read the Terms and Conditions when agreeing to download his last iTunes update, is pursued by shadowy agents from Apple Inc., who wish to perform a number of intrusive actions upon him, informing him that he agreed to them when he downloaded the update…..

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I can’t resist featuring this Ron Paul quote from “Why we Fight”
    “We also were told the war was necessary for national security purposes because of the threat Saddam Hussein presented, although the evidence was fabricated. Saddam Hussein’s ability to attack us was nonexistent, but the American people were ripe for alarming predictions by those who wanted this war.”

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Eric Rudolph used a car bomb?

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  16. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    Todd-
    In the dichotomous key of Christian factions. “American Christians” as you described, are not identified as a different family from Irish Catholics and Protestants. Would you care to educate us on the difference of American beliefs versus Irish beliefs of the same religion? My educated guess is that your knowledge of religion is at the first grade level. You can regurgitate the gruel, but couldn’t even begin to understand even the most basic differences between the sects.

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  17. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    “My educated guess is that your knowledge of religion is at the first grade level”. jon smith referring to Toddy J.
    Understatement of the Year candidate. Replace the word “religion” with any other word and the sentence is spot on every time!

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  18. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Regarding the ignorant, the Republican Clown Car, and the growing and soon to be GIGANTIC Exxon Scandal- a perfect piece of required reading tonight.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/opinion/fossil-fools.html

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah, go require your people to read your link. You ain’t the boss of me, paleface. Here is your required reading. Was the man wrong for apologizing or just a dumbshit for apologizing?? Sometimes whimpy Chiefs give my people a bad name. Where is Chief Grand Cherokee when you need someone who ain’t a girly red man. The Apaches, a proud fierce warring people, should be ashamed of the their Leader for being such a jon. Geez.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/celebrities/article43232607.html

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Wow, I have both the ignorant “jons” attacking. Thanks you both I accept the honor. But you two are useful idiots here and I am happy you two are not a disappointment. Obviously I am much smarter than you two so I must drop my answers down to your level of understanding. First grade you said?
    If jon smith doesn’t know the difference between a protestant and a catholic religion than he is beyond hope or “saving”.
    The other “jon” is a Muslim as he has indicated so I am unsure if his jihad here is clear. He wants sharia law and he wants his babes in a sheet over their bodies. He is not someone Americans can trust. Maybe he is a trafficker in them as well.
    There. Now go play you two.

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  21. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd, does it ever occur to you why everyone makes fun of you so often? Look inward.

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 713pm – my reply to your justification for war had nothing to do with a libertarian or any other ideological order. (Are you forgetting the thread of your discussion?) In my 249pm I just gave you my pragmatic answer as to why a nation justifies its going to war. And again for an uncounted number of times you draw others out with your questions, and never answer anyone else, save with yet another question. Not a good dialogue. The din of your crickets rule the night.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Jon | 05 November 2015 at 10:16 PM
    Because I am funny “jon”. Your Muslim beliefs and incarceration of women are a easy target. An your ignorant of facts. So look in the mirror you are useful idiot.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Todd, that was not very Nevada City friendly. jon’s family tree has a long history of political forefathers that helped shaped the Left into what it has become today. Easy, Big Fella, jon’s political DNA goes back long before any of us.
    https://www.facebook.com/MANDATORY/photos/a.251564004947905.47255.205523986218574/433882910049346/?type=3&theater

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Bill Tozer | 06 November 2015 at 06:19 AM
    Now that would be a accurate description of “jon”. Pretty funny.
    The knife wielding idiot at the Merced campus was a Muslim! His name is , GASP! Mohammed! The same as the Prophet of peace! The AP article did its best to make every excuse why this knifer (is that a word?) was not connected to terrorism. Over and over the article claimed that he was just a misguided kid who flipped out from a normal American life. Only in the last paragraph does it say this peaceful man was a attendee at the local mosque.
    Now why would a Muslim just starting college pack a KILL bag full of items and go to a college where he attacked “friends” of his? The AP says no terror connections. I say BS. He was a killer Muslim and he was taught “jihad” in the mosque. Close the place down and arrest the Iman.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Now Bill…..I thought you’d had the talk with “our gal”….the one about signing NDAs without reading them!
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-signed-nda-laying-out-criminal-penalties-for-mishandling-of-classified-info/

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  27. jon Avatar
    jon

    Breaking news. Nearly half of the people who live here are not “stakeholders” … Because they’re not currently raising kids here. And I thought as a tax paying property owner I had something at stake. http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2015/11/06/our-non-stakeholders-when-it-comes-to-raising-and-attracting-families-in-our-towns/

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  28. jon smith Avatar
    jon smith

    To the other Jon. Amen.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George, how can I more directly answer your question than this:
    George 204pm – Paul, in your view what are the allowable reasons for going to war (I remove self-defense when attacked from the list)?
    Paul E 2:49 My justifiable reasons for going to war are pretty basic Libertarian values. Self defense and protecting our borders.
    For some reason you are unable to engage in a deeper dialogue on this issue citing some rules of engagement issue with my style-much like the anecdotal screed from you in times past that only applied to those opposing your views or your one sided application of derogatory language against individuals.
    My input in this post began with my belief that Rummy and Cheney and unnamed others are guilty of war crimes and possibly treason for knowingly leading us to war under false pretenses. Using Ron Paul’s statement is a reasonable way to express the views of Libertarians and true Conservatives in this matter.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I agree with the two”jons”. OMG!

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 847am – Good enough – self-defense and protecting borders. Remaining questions: 1) What kinds of acts by foreign agents is the US allowed to used military force to defend itself, and where is the deployment of such force then considered legitimate? and 2) What is your definition of ‘war’ – in other words are there some minimum thresholds regarding projecting force in manpower, monies expended, duration of conflict that when exceeded will qualify such uses of force as ‘war’?
    For instance the administration argues that we are not at war in the Mideast at our current levels of air campaigns and boots on the ground and special ops resulting in combat casualties. Are we at war?
    Recall we conservatarians differ strongly with libertarians on foreign policy that includes the spectrum of ways America is able to project force to serve its national interests. It should be clear after all these years that I am neither a “true Conservative” nor a “Libertarian”, and have never claimed to be.
    And since we have long ago given up war as a legitimate response to protect our borders, I am confused as to how the progressive views the overall purpose and stance of our military. Hope we can at least discover the modern definition of war.

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  32. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Bye, bye Keystone and best wishes to Exxon, Shell and BP!
    Walt, how are those enviros doing this week? LOL.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    jeffpelline says:
    November 5, 2015 at 9:20 pm
    Weldon,
    I suspect the buck sought refuge in our yard from all the “gun nuts” in our community. Our family would admire the beast rather than shoot at it, claiming “hey it was on our property.” Different visions for our community, to be sure.

    You politicize everything you unwashed enema nozzle….if only that deer knew how much danger he was in being in your front yard…..I bet you could run a sub 4 second 40 yard dash and take it down like a zombie from the “Walking Dead” if you thought for an instant that you could wrap a wheat bun around and devour the poor beast!

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  34. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Oops. Low energy Ben Carson told a fib. Trumpster set to pounce. Video at 11.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    All that is now debunked. Sorry, nothing to see there.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Here you go “jon” Your favorite Mexicans forcing their kids to use the F bomb.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-latino-advocacy-ad-215591

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  37. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Um, Todd…how do we explain this to you- He has now admitted fabricating the false story he told in several books and articles. That’s pretty much it for ole’ Ben, who cannot seem to tell the truth about his past, and doesn’t like media questions. Now we know why he tried to destroy and discredit our vital democratic system of free press asking questions. T
    Trump will now pounce and kill off Low Energy Ben.
    NEXT. Rubio’s turn.
    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/06/ben-carson-west-point

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  38. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    No “jon” the Politico story is now debunked. Try again.

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  39. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    You have no idea what you’re talking about Todd. But what’s new? Care to double down again? LOL. The Carson lie and admission is over every media outlet right now. So you don’t believe his own Campaign official when he admitted the tall tale? LOL.

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  40. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Carson wasn’t going to win the nomination anyway due to Trump’s relentless attacks, but now his veneer of trust is gone as well, along with his lack of experience and low energy. Not much left except his desire for a return to a religious dominated, Christian nation.

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  41. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    “jon” you are just a run of the mill racist and now we see you hate blacks. You are just uneducated and have no clue.

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  42. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Good line Todd. So clever. I have to say- I do like to report stories you righties like to conveniently ignore, such as Carson’s dishonesty and all the progressive good news this week. We now know why Ben was so adamant about not answering media questions. He’s a phony, but now Walt’s favorite guy Mr. Trump will make sure everyone knows it! Congratulations Walt, Trump gets another boost! Go Donald Go.

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  43. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yo, Jon sending us love letters from his Mom’s apartment. So early? Must have crawled into Mom’s bed after she went off to work.
    Carson or Trumpt, makes no difference to me. Ben just has a quiet way of saying the same things, 180 of The Donald.
    Dr. Carson isn’t going to win the nomination anyway? Surely your crystal ball is all fogged up this fine morning, or did it crack when you licked Bernie’s image too hard and the ball rolled off its base again?
    Let’s take a look under the hood, shall we. Open Sesame Seed Bun. I peer into my cloudy ball and she Hillary The Inevitable losing to a Blackman with little to no experience in administration of gobberment. Viola! It’s 2008….or is it 2016? Different years, same result. Looks like it’s Chelsea in 2040!

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  44. George Boardman Avatar

    Todd, try to accept reality once in a while. Carson’s own campaign people are admitting the West Point story isn’t true.

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  45. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd, I won’t say another word about Ben Carson, but the Trumpster sure will, and already has- LOL- Trump’s latest tweet-
    “IS CARSON HALLUCINATING? NOW LIES ABOUT WEST POINT?
    Go Donald!

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  46. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Wow George B, I do believe we’ve rendered Todd utterly speechless. LOL. He is incapable of apologizing, and cannot double down now! Oh, what to do, what to do…

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