Rebane's Ruminations

About

November 2015
S M T W T F S
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
2930  

ARCHIVES

OUR LINKS

YubaNet
White House Blog
Watts Up With That?
The Union
Sierra Thread
RL “Bob” Crabb
Barry Pruett Blog

Sandbox – 1nov15

[Time for some fresh sand. I'm concerned that we don't have a viable declared candidate in Nevada County's District #1 to oppose Ms Heidi Hall for Supervisor. Anyone have any ideas? gjr]

Posted in

272 responses to “Sandbox – 1nov15”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ben Emery | 02 November 2015 at 01:32 PM
    You are simply a “affirmative action” proselytizer Ben Emery. Nothing on hard work or merit ever spews from your lips. All those people in office must have just been handed the positions? No, they worked hard for it. Liberals always want something for free, a job, a car, a phone and now a seat on the BOS. Typical lefty mumbo-jumbo!

    Like

  2. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re MichaelK’s 144pm and ToddJ’s 149pm – I most certainly agree with BenE (132pm) that a woman could well be a “breath of fresh air” on the BoS. But then I believe, based on decades of careful observation, that women and men are intrinsically different in many (most?) aspects. However, the progressives have been conditioning us through their lamestream and union schools that men and women are no different from each other save some minor plumbing configurations. Now suddenly our resident progressive becomes a sexist? One wonders what other jobs could benefit from being performed by men or by women, or perhaps by a politically correct mix of the two.

    Like

  3. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Michael,
    Can you admit that men and women have different life experiences and perceptions? If yes, then you understand that somebody with a different perspective can bring some fresh new ideas to the table. Those ideas might stimulate a broader discussion about important issues of the day. I never claimed Heidi Hall or any other person should be elected solely based on their gender. How can women who are 51% of the national population continually be less than 25% of our elected officials both at state and federal levels? In the private sector the number of decision making positions is in the 15% range.
    I think Heidi Hall’s resume speaks for itself.
    https://www.linkedin.com/pub/heidi-hall/8/376/159
    Education
    Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey-New Brunswick, Eagleton Institute
    M.A., Public Policy, Environment
    1987 – 1988
    Columbia University – School of International and Public Affairs
    M.A., Economic and Political Development
    1983 – 1986
    Pomona College
    B.A., International Relations
    1979 – 1983

    Like

  4. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd and George,
    The point is about a mile over your heads and if you cannot understand it by this stage in life it is most likely you will never get it.
    Everything that is today was set up by those of yesterday and it is those of today that will set up tomorrow. You guys want to remain in a bygone era since all the power, benefits, and privilege were skewed in your specific demographic favor. Yesteryear wasn’t so pleasant for many and we are trying to move to a more equitable society and nation. This means white males are going to see their power, benefits, and privilege decrease so others can have equal access.
    That is what makes this country so great, progressing towards justice and equality for all. Oddly enough it is what you guys oppose the most.

    Like

  5. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 02 November 2015 at 02:29 PM
    That is what makes this country so great, progressing towards justice and equality for all. Oddly enough it is what you guys oppose the most.
    THERE’S A SNAKE IN MY BOOT!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMuBSkVuzE

    Like

  6. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George, 02 November 2015 at 01:57 PM
    Glad to see that you understand there is a difference between men and women. Also that it could be a breath of fresh air for BoS. Right on cue you misrepresent a progressive point of view and position. You really do not understand progressives at all.
    When it comes to politics women are no better than men but will bring the perspective of 50% of the population to the table, which is absent at the moment. White males are dramatically over represented in our state and federal governments. Why? All the laws up until the the mid 20th century were based on the perception of how white males experienced and viewed our nation and society. So all this privilege is no surprise.
    In 2015, over 200 years later, our federal government still has 80% white male perception on our nation and society. Does this mean all white males agree? Not even close. No matter how much I can sympathize with women or people of color there is no possible way I can every understand what it means to live in our community, state, nation, or world as anything other than a white male. The same is true for women or people of color. They have no idea of the pressures and responsibilities that comes with that privilege.
    Over my lifetime I have only been able to explain it one way that most people can understand. I have chosen not to take advantage of many of the privileges because I truly believe that is the wrong direction the human race needs to go. Here is the point, as a white male I had the privilege or luxury of having a choice in the matter. That is the difference. It is getting better for more people but it is not even close to being just and equitable, which means equal access not mandated equal portions.

    Like

  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ben Emery, what exactly have you done here in the community for its betterment?

    Like

  8. George Boardman Avatar
    George Boardman

    My God, is Pelline aware that Ms. Heidi is actually proud of her affiliation with The Union? First she sends them a press release, now this!
    But I’ll bet Jeffy holds his nose and votes for her anyway.

    Like

  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah, I get Ben’s point. 5 out of 5 does not look good. In fact, there is something so wrong with this picture. I just can’t seem to put my finger on it. Hmmm. Oh, I get it now! One out of 5 is totally acceptable. I be a fart smeller I tell ya.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1446506738./743002835833756/?type=3&theater

    Like

  10. George Boardman Avatar
    George Boardman

    Re Dr. R’s 9:50 am:
    The same basic video has been reproduced in several different languages, apparently to soften China’s image and portray the country as a kinder, gentler giant.

    Like

  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Loved the video, Mr. Boardman. Got me doing some real down home hand slapping foot stompin’ dancing to the muzak. I can still kick a leg, especially if it is attached to a progressive liberal pinko.
    Brother Ben, Brother Ben. I know you are trying to change the group photo and working tirelessly with every ounce of your strength to rid the County, and by extension the Orb known as Planet Earth, of this unspeakable injustice that curses Western Civilization to this very hour. Something must be done. It certainly offends all with decent sensibilities.
    Helpful Hint #79, a sure way to solve your troubles.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1446506738./742903005843739/?type=3&theater

    Like

  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Guilty as charged, Your Honorable Discharge. I feel so rotten! Rotten to the core.. What can I do to balance the books? While waiting for someone throw me a lifeline, I will rock on….totally miserable of course, especially when the cameras are rolling.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IXsOJsXpDcE

    Like

  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Well this is sure to help raise those low wages that Ben is so concerned about vis a vis paying for Obamacare premiums….
    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/the-administration/258689-leaked-dhs-memo-shows-obama-might-circumvent-dapa

    Like

  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Smokes, now that mean Libertarian Judge Nappypooh is chipping on my gal. This War on Women is getting nasty. Dis my gal and you are a male pig. My gal certainly is a breath of fresh air, even though she could use a wee bit of time bathing in the sun. I fear she is working too hard for us little people.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/11/02/hillary-mistress-deception-judge-napolitano-breaks-down-newly-released-benghazi-email

    Like

  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 02 November 2015 at 04:30 PM
    C’mon Bill…she’ll be fine.
    I’m sure that when we’re not looking she’ll take a quiet moment to bite the head off a live baby and be back to her normal self in no time at all!

    Like

  16. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Dr. R… We DID have a woman on the board. (your above comment) We couldn’t get rid of her fast enough. No,, not always a “breath of fresh air”. ( Izzy was full of HOT air)
    The “face” that launched (demanded) a thousand permits.

    Like

  17. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Update…
    A few days ago I posted a “good news” story out of Chicago. ” Armed CWP holder snuffs thug”.
    Well now,,, the family of said thug have dreamed up a great excuse, and now want charges leveled on the good guy.
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/02/armed-robbers-family-complains-he-was-shot-too-many-times/
    “The family of a Chicago man gunned down during a robbery attempt are calling for his shooter, a concealed weapon permit-holder, to be prosecuted for the shooting. The Washington Post is helping to further that effort, suggesting the failed robbery could even be a Halloween prank gone horribly wrong.
    Police say Saturday night Reginald Gildersleeve walked into the small bodega Agencia Mexicana while wearing a mask and announced a holdup, whipping out what appeared to be gun. Moments later he was gunned down by an unnamed patron. It was later discovered that Gildersleeve’s gun was a paintball gun.”

    Like

  18. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re BenE’s 250pm – The topic was composition of the NC BoS, and suddenly one of our respected progressives goes off on a quota system tangent. What does being a woman (or a man) have anything to do with qualifications or even recommendations for becoming a county supervisor?
    But understanding one’s socio-political ideology has everything to do with making such a decision. Ms Hall has let me and others like me know that the public policies she will instigate and back will not support the kind of community, state, and nation that to us is dear. And we do recognize that to others her ideology will seem like the perfect salve to correct all that is wrong with our society.
    That aside, we should return to arguing the pros and cons of the gender quota system in politics, business, education, military, … since 51% of Americans are women, and it’s most important to incorporate this discriminant properly into all of our institutions. Perhaps only then we can broaden our view to include the actual merits required by the job.
    (For those new to the quota system discussion – the Left believes that disproportionate representation in terms of gender, race, education, age, … is prima facie evidence that such representation came about through a vile and reprehensible application of discriminatory selection procedures and processes. And the state should step in to correct such distortions wherever they are found.)

    Like

  19. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Ben is just too funny. I do remember (don’t we all) how the left thought M. Thatcher was just the cutest breath of fresh air to break up that old white man’s club?
    HH is a lefty and Ben can’t think of any good reason to vote for her other than the fact that she is a woman.
    If it was Bernie Sanders running against Sarah Palin in his district, we wouldn’t hear one single word of his clap trap about needing a woman to break up the old white boys club. I’m not being defensive, Ben, I’m laughing at your pathetic attempt at yet another ‘deeply held’ liberal belief that comes and goes like the tides.

    Like

  20. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Scott,
    You’re being an idiot and that is why it is defensive. The fact I am choosing Sanders over a woman in the Democratic Primary kind of shoots your lame theory out of the sky now doesn’t it. Heidi Hall is a declared very qualified candidate for my Supervisor seat and as of now she has my support because I agree with her poistions on issues. If Bernie Sanders were running for Supervisor in my district he would have my vote. An unabashed progressive on the BoS would be more than a breath of fresh air.

    Like

  21. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George, 02 November 2015 at 05:37 PM
    Personally I prefer Instant Run Off Voting over Proportional Representation but either would be better than the government to the highest bidder we have going on now.

    Like

  22. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Bill, 02 November 2015 at 03:29 PM
    Actually that is exactly the point. Out of around 25 major party candidates all but 2 were white and or male. That is not very good diversity. Only 1 of the 4 non white males is a serious candidate for the position and she is as slimy as politicians get. Probably why she is a serious candidate in our totally corrupted system. It also shows women can be just as bad as men in politics. Is she better than the insane train in the Republican field? Yes. Will she get my support? No way. At least with the Republican Party I know exactly what I have to fight against. The Democratic Party rhetoric vs their actions is a coin toss, therefore everything is up for questioning.

    Like

  23. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Ben and I prefer women with logic, common sense, and brainpower. Heidi fits the bill. Sarah Palin fails miserably on both counts.

    Like

  24. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    Too funny Ben – you make my point. If B Sanders were running in your district for sup we wouldn’t hear one single word of this ‘woman’s perspective’ BS from you. Instead, you would happily vote for another good ol white boy to join the others. And what about the conservative woman running against him? What about this BS about needing a breath of fresh air?
    You’re making a jackass out of yourself. You like H.H. and her politics. We get it. But you can’t think of any better reason to vote for her other than the fact that she’s a woman?
    This BS about how we need a woman is solely because the leftie you like is one. If it was a Sarah Palin conservative you’d sing a different tune. You vote for the politics. Period. Give the other crap a rest.

    Like

  25. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Scott,
    Too funny right back you. She will be a breath of fresh air to the old white guys club when elected. Just as a progressive would be a breath of fresh air to the old white guys club. It is you guys who have projected into the the conversation that my support for Heidi Hall is strictly due to her gender. I have never said that or would I ever say that, I vote for the candidate that represent my values most. I voted for Jill Stein in the 2012 Presidential election because she matched my values most. I support Bernie Sanders in this election over Jill Stein because he matches my values even more. If Bernie Sanders doesn’t win the primary and Jill Stein does I will be supporting her in 2016. Unlike you guys party affiliation means very little to me. I rarely vote for D’s or R’s if I have a choice because both parties represent industry over people, therefor they do not represent my values at all. My votes in my lifetime have gone towards independents, Greens, Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, and occasionally to Democrats and Republicans. I have only voted for a winning Presidential candidate once, and it is one of the only votes I have every regretted.

    Like

  26. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Scott, I vote for the candidate’s positions on issues. Heidi’s priorities are my priorities. Being a woman is a secondary benefit for the District, as the Board could use a huge dose of female perspective and sensibility. Since you are in Idaho these days, you’re not going to have to worry about her landslide victory. So let it roll. District 1 is going to be in very good hands.

    Like

  27. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    A big LOL tonight for the total unraveling of the GOP and the Trump campaign. Unreal insanity 🙂
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-to-negotiate-directly-with-tv-networks-on-debate-formats/2015/11/02/5fdec85e-8191-11e5-a7ca-6ab6ec20f839_story.html

    Like

  28. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    “… as the Board could use a huge dose of female perspective and sensibility.”
    Except of course that the female was conservative. Then we would have to put a male, white, leftie codger in.
    You bozos on the left can’t keep your deeply held views straight for more than five seconds.
    And I still live in Nevada County, thank you very much.

    Like

  29. don bessee Avatar
    don bessee

    So does the ‘jon’ live in District 1 as it seems to indicate in the 831p?

    Like

  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh, my gal does not have to explain anything to nobody. She has a vagina (we assume), thus anyone who questions her is part of the evil Neanderthal knuckle dragging racist white power privileged Vast RightWing Conspiracy.. Did I mention her detractors are old white men? Just making sure.
    Yo My Gal. Helpful Hint # 31: you look better wearing blue. It’s the Dem color of choice, duh. Maybe Monica will lend ya one of her’s. Who knows, maybe it wil turn Bill’s head, just like back in th day. Good times. You need a tension reliever, my fair lady. Hillary, we love you!!
    http://patriotpost.us/posts/38622

    Like

  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Aw, beginning too feel my age. I remember the Dem party as the party on the youth. Vibrant, enthusiastic, and full of redoing the sausage maker to make sasuage making kinder, fairer, gentler. Now I look around and all the Utopians look like…….starting to look like Cornel Sanders or…..looking a lot like Bernie Sanders. What has happened to that party. Oh yeah, elections have consequences down to the local level when the rising stars await their trading wheels. They need some fresh blood, some young bucks and sweet maiden lassies.
    Feeling older…

    Like

  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hey….it’s going great Beav!!
    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320651-germany-refugees-crisis-bavaria/

    Like

  33. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Regarding HH’s education resume that so impressed Master Ben:

    Education
    Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey-New Brunswick, Eagleton Institute
    M.A., Public Policy, Environment
    1987 – 1988
    Columbia University – School of International and Public Affairs
    M.A., Economic and Political Development
    1983 – 1986
    Pomona College
    B.A., International Relations
    1979 – 1983

    The three years at Columbia has the aroma of a PhD program terminating with an ABD (All But Dissertation aka Axed Because of Dumbness) Masters with the lateral to Rutgers being a second bite of the apple that didn’t pan out. No union card, no tenure track academic path, time to do something else. No shame in that, unlike a lower degree (like mine) there’s a lot more to it than passing classes and tests. Think apprenticeship to your professor and if you can convince them and their peers you’ve met their standards, you’re in the Guild.
    One of the best professors I had at Mudd almost had an original dissertation twice only to have someone else publish first so he took the Masters and ran, another honorable exit.

    Like

  34. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Hey the smartest guy and biggest asshole in every room has chimed in.

    Like

  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 03 November 2015 at 01:41 PM
    Don’t know what you’re complaining about….since Ms. Hall is possessed of non-technical/non-scientific credentialing this is almost complimentary. To me most of it looks like the way a lot of women who aspire to management while away their time… acquiring vague and impressive sounding chair warming degrees.

    Like

  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    You’re projecting again, Master Ben. I may be one of the smarter guys but your personal attacks put your asshole front and center.
    Ms. Hall is trying her darnedest to get on an entry level elective job; if the local right wing can’t put up a better candidate they deserve to lose the seat to an energetic progressive climber in training. She may be dreaming of following Barbara Boxer’s path from a County Supe to the big time and unlike Boxer, Hall appears to have a three digit IQ. We could do worse… Ben could be running.

    Like

  37. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re Ms H Hall – While I agree with Messrs Gregory and fish’s assessments of Ms Hall’s educational underpinnings – they are underwhelming to say the least – we should keep in mind that the job she’s aspiring to does not require much in that department. And she definitely appears to have a 3-digit IQ, and presumably will learn while she earns as Supervisor. She most certainly will attack the position assiduously, and that for me is the scary part when we reflect on her world view.
    And even more scarier is that the lady may well tread in the footsteps of that paragon of haughty hubris in the Senate – Barbara Boxer – who ranks right up there with the guy who thinks islands can tip over if too many people stand on one side of them.

    Like

  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Fish, I was a long haired FM type hosting a show on Pomona College’s radio station (KSPC?) a few years before Ms. Hall arrived and I knew a few like her at Oldenborg, Pomona’s international/foreign language dorm. Pomona’s a solid school, almost a Stanford but not quite.
    “Why do you resist us? We only wish to increase quality of life.”-Loqutus of Oldenborg.

    Like

  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 03 November 2015 at 03:21 PM
    My comment wasn’t to denigrate Ms Halls educational achievements. As the holder of a mere bachelors I bow before the might of her multiple credentials. I am forced to ask however just what the hell does a degree in International Relations qualify a person to do….except follow up with further study leading to a credential in Economic and Political Development…which I don’t really get either and Public Policy which I do get but don’t respect at all as it’s the quintessential politicians degree…. it sure sounds impressive but as mentioned upthread….. chair warmer.
    I’m sure Ms Hall will do fine as a supervisor at least she didn’t waste her time pursuing a journalism degree.

    Like

  40. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    International Relations/Economic and Political Development is a nice course of study if one desires to expand one’s horizons beyond a very narrow, provincial mindset. An open mind leads to better decision making. And its exactly what is needed in Nevada County.

    Like

  41. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 03 November 2015 at 04:14 PM
    Not that I think for a moment you know what is needed in Nevada County nevertheless I am intrigued as to how the aforementioned credentials “expands ones horizons”?
    By all means….. enlighten me!

    Like

  42. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Too late- if you didn’t what those things mean in your Bachelor degree days. Perhaps if you were a long time resident here you would know.

    Like

  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 03 November 2015 at 04:36 PM
    Too late- if you didn’t what those things mean in your Bachelor degree days.
    I’m wrestling a bit with your sentence structure here.
    …and in the “That must have been really good chicken department”.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/03/last-piece-of-chicken-stabbing/75112266/

    Like

  44. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    That was bad sentence structure, fish. Worse than bad. I need a mulligan today.

    Like

  45. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    fish 354pm – I did not exceed the bounds you set in your assessment and stand with mine.

    Like

  46. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Digging, HH left out an interesting detail… the school she attended at Rutgers isn’t “The Eagleton Institute”, it’s “The Eagleton Institute of Politics“!!!
    http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/students/aboutfellowships.php
    It’s apparently a finishing school for politics.

    Like

  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Just back and had some interesting meetings about the position.

    Like

  48. Scott Obermuller Avatar
    Scott Obermuller

    This whole concept of a ‘woman’s’ perspective in politics is actually pretty amusing in the first place. Amazingly, the ‘woman’s’ perspective seen from the left always seems to perfectly align with what a man from the left would do. And a ‘latina’ always votes in the same way as a white male leftie would vote.
    Dang near every single issue for the supervisor in Nevada County hasn’t got anything to do with the sex or race of the candidate. And the ones that might are going to go party line no matter who or what identity group the supervisor might claim to be part of.
    My original statement stands. If a conservative woman was running against a white male leftie, Ben and the other lefties wouldn’t have said squat about the need for a woman on the board.
    Not backing Shrillery doesn’t count. My wife says that she’s not any kind of woman worth the title of that sex.

    Like

  49. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Rarely do we see such a perfect real life definition of jumping the shark, ie. doth protesting too much- in someone’s verve to not appear as a sexist or racist.
    Thank you Scotty.

    Like

  50. don bessee Avatar
    don bessee

    Good to see the ‘jon’ is consistent with evening chardonnay fueled ooopsies, will he whos name we shall not utter be excoriating the ‘jon’ for mangling the language? LOL

    Like

Leave a comment

RR FUNDAMENTALS

About the Bastiat Triangle

Glossary & Semantics

A Conservetarian Credo

Commenting Rules

RECENT POSTS

RECENT COMMENTS

CATEGORIES