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[Boehner's swansong highlights the problems conservatives have had with the man for some time now. There doesn't seem to be a hill worth dying on in his political geography. Can some cleverer minds remind us what now the congressional Republicans have to bargain with a rogue hard left Executive branch once they have forfeited the power of the purse which the Constitution specifically reserved for them and them alone? gjr]
Todd RE ” Oh, and all those billions we send to the poor of the world? ” 7:57
Are you advocating we cut off oyr assistance to Israel?
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I have a response to Firth. What a hoot!
http://sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/
Paul Emery 9:20 AM, why do you insist on putting words in others mouths?
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Todd
These are your words. Correct me if I’m wrong.
” Oh, and all those billions we send to the poor of the world? Let’s stop that and spend it on the infrastructure here. How about it?”
Very simply put I asked if that should include our support of Israel. Yes or no.
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You don’t understand sarcasm? Is Israel a poor country?
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Well it must be otherwise why do we give it over 3 Billion a year in cash.
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Posted by: Ben Emery | 30 October 2015 at 07:42 AM
I repeat.
Do you have any evidence that the corporations you listed have violated US tax laws?
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PaulE 1055am – I think you’re jerking around your fellow readers. All here know that America’s foreign aid comes in two flavors – alms for the destitute, payments to maintain geo-strategic alliances. That countries like Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, … are of the latter kind is not a secret. In international affairs ‘friendships’ are pro quid quo affairs, which I bet you knew (at least I give you credit for knowing). Israel (and Egypt) are our gambits to maintain the balance of Mideast and north African power against the hegemonic designs of both Iran and Turkey.
fish 1105am – my best guess about Ben’s lengthy diatribe is that all those corporations violated his moral standards regarding their financial dealings. That they did not violate any laws is beside the point in Mr Emery’s world, for there he exhorts us all to reach for a higher bar 😉
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Paul Emery 10:55 AM the answer is by GeorgeR’s 11:34 AM.
What fascinates me about Ben Emery’s “tax” expose’ is he never lists all those “non-profits” that get those hundreds of billions. All those eco groups that never seem to be scrutinized. The eco “do-gooders” and the eco outraged are yapping about the oil companies. Lately here we now see the expenditure of hard earned tax money to study “salmon” returning to places they never were. A half million bucks or so. So, while the government is putting the thumb screws to the people working hard and paying taxes, under threat of the gun of course, they take that money and give to these far left eco warriors. All the money goes to staff, a staff of leftwingers complaining about subsidies to oil companies (that really don’t exist) all the while these eco warriors would be on the unemployment lines as holding degrees in something that is totally subsized BS! America, you gotta love it!
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Well, our gal….er….My Gal is now strutting her stuff, feeling no pain.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/election-2016-hillary-clinton-demands-probe-exxon-after-oil-giant-stops-funding
Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.
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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 30 October 2015 at 12:52 PM
I tell ya she’s going to find a way to blow this! All she needs to do is keep it cool and whine about men being mean to her and she’s in!
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Posted by: Ben Emery | 30 October 2015 at 07:42 AM
I repeat.
Do you have any evidence that the corporations you listed have violated US tax laws?
Okay….I’ll guess that that’s a no!
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Fish, what are going to do next? Count to three or repeat until you are lib blue in the face?
Remember my gilled friend, Silence is golden and duct tape is silver.
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So Todd what you propose is to cut off assistance that “alms for the destitute”, to quote George. that would mean food, medical assistqnce, clean water, etc. That money would be shifted to providing for our infrastructure. Am I correct in this assumption. If notcan you elaborate on what you said with specifics.
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“You guys seem to be fine when it comes to the wealthy and big business not paying their taxes. ”
After a quick look at the income statements for Apple, Chevron, Pfizer, and Lockheed, I can’t say that I’m very outraged at the numbers. In any case, earnings passed on to stockholders just get taxed at that point (and aren’t deductible as I remember, go figure).
The whole argument just makes me tired, so I’ll go read a book or something.
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“subsidies to oil companies (that really don’t exist)” Todd J.
This insane statement is all you need to know about this guy’s credibility to comment on matters like this.
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Jon | 30 October 2015 at 04:01 PM
Well then send us all to the links in the federal budget showing those subsides. You might be surprised. Hey you are a faceless muslim troll, I forgot.
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Paul Emery | 30 October 2015 at 02:50 PM
Sarcasm Paul Emery, for the second time. Are you dense?
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That’s right Todd. I’m a faceless muslim troll. Ooh, scary.
But I give you credit for being willing to publically embarrass yourself as a GOP representative, with insane comments about no oil and gas subsidies. Kudos for saying such things in public for the rest to see.
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So “jon” I see you can’t back up the location in the fed budget you say exist. So if they don’t exist how are you correct and I am not? Please help us out. Find that set of links and facts to back up your claims. But alas you won’t. You are simply a bloviator and a troll. No guts.
I will say though that if you can find that official information and it backs you up, I will certainly apologize and whip myself with a wet noodle.
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“oil and gas subsidies”
Off the top of my head I can think of …low income energy subsidies…some sort of tax break for domestic manufacturing generally…a bunch of rules for asset depreciation given to mining and oil firms.
When you get right down to it, probably the best thing to do is simply to look at income tax amounts as a percentage of the top line sales for Big Oil vs. other large companies. At least companies that have similarly high levels of capital investment.
If Chevron’s tax bill is a bunch lower than Intel, Safeway, Walmart, Pfizer, etc., it seems to me that worrying about subsidies is a reasonable thing.
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Interesting that the St Louis Black Church serial arsonist turned out to be a black guy whos mug shot shows from his ink that he is a member of the kings street gang. Have to wonder if the churches were targeted for effective anti drug work?
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Further from home, we now officially have boots on the ground in Syria. That last bunch we trained to fight the Syrian government done got blown to Kingdom Come by Russian fighter jets. Same with the ones we trained to fight ISIS. So, if you want the job done right, you gotta do it yourself. God help us. Does this count for a Hillary accomplishment?
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Global energy subsidies fuel climate change, says IMF study
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c6512a6-fd27-11e4-b072-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3q6mskQ1z
Governments around the world will subsidise the cost of oil, gas and coal to the tune of $5.3tn this year, fuelling pollution and climate change as they misallocate the equivalent of what is spent globally on public health, according to a new study.
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I remember a few years back when Sacramento talk show host Tom Sullivan got a hold of a list of 20 huge mega corporations that paid no business income taxes that year. Man, the airwaves were filled with angry callers, most of them conservative I reckon, about how they (the tax lawyered up evil McScrouges) are a bunch of cheating swindlers. After all, look at all the billions they made. Ole Tom was pretty exercised.
So, I look around and….gross is not net, duh. What a heavy concept. Then I almost called the show to say, “Dude, 17 of the 20 lost money for the year, 2 broke about even, and one I couldn’t tell ya why they paid no business income taxes.” But, I refrained.
Note to the Lefties who are notoriously poor at math: if you are considering buying a small business and you are checking the books, don’t get all google-eyed looking at what the til brought over the last year or 6 months without a studious review of all debts, short term IOUs, and the negative cash flow to keep the inventory a’coming, doors open and the lights on. My gift to you with broken thinkers.
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Well Bill given the number of SF we are sending it sounds very much like small teams that will primarily be coordinating air strikes. The whole air campaign has been a joke up to now with LBJ style rules of engagement that has the Air Force and Navy/Marine Airmen screaming to high heaven about the lag for HQ strike approval. Reports have them coming back with something like 60 to 80% of ordinance still on the racks unused. Since they wont do kill boxes over the bad guys and let them kill anything with a weapon or concentration of troop you need forward air control to get the best benefit from the strikes.
I would reference the opening of the Afghanistan campaign as a model. A handful of Air Force controllers embedded with the Northern Alliance broke the long standing stalemate that let the NA roll out of the hills and kick talliban ass. These skilled operators are a force multiplier. A couple of guys observing a fight from the next hill or a ridgeline away with encrypted comms are relatively safe and cause havoc amongst the targeted scum bags. Real time reports from experienced FAC’s to skilled airmen is invaluable in a fight.
The Russian sortie rate has dwindled to 25 or so a day from the opening 80-90 range. A sobering learning curve for the Russian dictator. The Russian have no experience in modern high tempo air ops much less an expeditionary air wing in hostile territory that relies on air lift for supplies.
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Sorry Bill,
Profits are; Profit = Total Revenue – Total Expenses
Profit- A financial benefit that is realized when the amount of revenue gained from a business activity exceeds the expenses, costs and taxes needed to sustain the activity. Any profit that is gained goes to the business’s owners, who may or may not decide to spend it on the business.
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Todd, we would like you to again explain- for the benefit of Walt and others- how US oil and gas companies do not receive US Federal subsidies.
That would certainly be news to the US oil and gas industry who have testified in front of Congress as to why the need those subsidies!
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Oh boy, just when I thought I have heard everything, another one comes down the pike that is more insane than a crazy cat lady watching QVC 24/7.
Now, I will go out on a limb here and say this was a joke or perhaps I don’t live on the same planet as California. I must dwell in some parallel universe because this link does not have me thrilled. I must be in denial because this could not possibly happen anywhere in this galaxy, Never. Oops, never say never.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/27/students-in-california-school-district-now-guaranteed-c-grades-for-doing-nothing/
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jon | 30 October 2015 at 08:43 PM
Please find your proof in the federal budget as I have asked numerous times. Why are you stalling? Come on, get those fingers walking and find your proof so we can all tell you how smart you are. Come on, you can do it.
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r&d my brother, r&d
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Ben @ 2021:
Sorry Brother Ben, I did not read your link or have read any of your links in a long time. Just assumed that that list of whatever you posted got you upset, so if might be good, but i simply could not bring myself to spent a half a millisecond even glancing at it. Just strolled down until it was over. Some take a longer time to scroll past than other.
So, whatever your point, I will say ya, whatever (you say). Whatever Ben, you are right…blah, blah, blah.
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Sorry Todd, got new internet devices. R&D. Since you are here, check out the origins for LMAO.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/746940452106661/?type=3&theater
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Everybody needs subsidies for R&D, everybody. Its what keeps us progressing and inventive. A good job created for good paying jobs. If the Poor get subsidies, then the companies get subsidies. Hey, companies are people too and pay taxes if owed. Equal treatment under the law and all. We must be fair. Much ado about nothing.
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except we’re moving away from fossil fuels. Divesture of oil and gas is happening as we speak and getting bigger and bigger every year. Many institutional investors dumping oil and gas stocks. Good riddance. Check out 350.org for the details.
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Todd believes subsidies are found in the federal budget. Yeah. This sap is dumber than anyone could even imagine.
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Guess the ‘jon’ thinks the UC and pc bubble head divesting has changed the consumption levels. As usual it would be wrong. Getting sloppy already the ‘jon’. Did you and the Dark lord of liberal lament land have a chili cheese fry and chardonnay fest tonight? He has outed you as his favorite sock puppet. LOL
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Want to cut the national debt by $8.5 trillion dollars? Find the lost Pentagon money. This article is from 2013 but we seem to never hear about the missing $8.5 trillion. Hmmmm…
Special Report: The Pentagon’s doctored ledgers conceal epic waste
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/18/us-usa-pentagon-waste-specialreport-idUSBRE9AH0LQ20131118
“Because of its persistent inability to tally its accounts, the Pentagon is the only federal agency that has not complied with a law that requires annual audits of all government departments. That means that the $8.5 trillion in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon since 1996, the first year it was supposed to be audited, has never been accounted for.”
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Since Todd won’t or cannot answer the question, up to $60 billion annually if we count all the government benefits towards the O&G industry. The worst of it all is the Obama administration has increased some of the O&G subsides by over 40%.
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
What is a fossil fuel subsidy?
A fossil fuel subsidy is any government action that lowers the cost of fossil fuel energy production, raises the price received by energy producers or lowers the price paid by energy consumers. There are a lot of activities under this simple definition—tax breaks and giveaways, but also loans at favorable rates, price controls, purchase requirements and a whole lot of other things.
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Jon | 30 October 2015 at 09:42 PM
Just as I thought. “jon” doesn’t know his elbow from a hot rock. Ans he is ignorant of the federal budget. What a dumbass.
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That’s right Todd. Subsidies for oil and gas aren’t in the Federal budget. Dumbass.
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Ben Emery | 30 October 2015 at 10:31 PM
Where is that in the budget Ben Emery? I think you are once again in LaLa land.
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Jon | 30 October 2015 at 10:35 PM
Honestly your are duumber than a post “jon”. All money is in the budget. You just are ignorant about how to find it. So I have proved to the readers you are simply stupid.
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Don, exactly right Don, the impact of divesture is being felt, and will be felt more and more as the years go on. Pretty impressive trend.
Kudos to Mr. McKibben for spearheading the effort. Its all downhill for that industry, and will look forward to the Federal investigation of Exxon Mobil.
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Hey dumbass TJ, why would oil and gas industry executives feel the need to defend their federal subsidies if they don’t exist? hmmm…
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“All money is in the budget.”
That is likely the dumbest thing, in the giant sea of dumb things, you’ve ever said. But feel free to keep spouting idiocy. Its fun to watch.
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30 October 2015 at 10:31 PM
I hit the wrong button, $50 billion
Todd just like the Defense spending it is spread out and hidden in a million different areas. If you check out the website given it will give you the reports.
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Jon at 10:39 and then 10:42
You are obviously ignorant of the budget process and your DailyKos talking points have failed you. You have to be the stupidest person posting here as a budget is the most important job in government and you can’t even admit you are wrong. Put the bottle down and go to bed. You are dumber than a post.
Ben Emery, we are talking about something totally different. Go back to bed.
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“except we’re moving away from fossil fuels.”
Quick and dirty numbers (from 2011):
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425489/a-future-of-fossil-fuels/
The US mix is an interesting bird, I think. A mixture of somewhat predictable year-on-year improvements in efficiency, a need for more energy for GDP gains, ongoing globalization (ie. offshoring), and a never-ending population increase based on super lax immigration policy. A big tug o’ war.
My guess is that fossil fuel depletion will be more of a driver than public policy. You never run out, but the extraction cost goes up.
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Off thread, but my dearly departed Mom was right.. She told me years ago that Micky D’s had the best coffee. Blasphemy to the lefty loosey’s ears. Brother Ben won’t like this. Always listen to your Mother, boys.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/started-going-mcdonalds-instead-starbucks-171700089.html
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