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Sandbox – 18oct15

18 October 2015

[Did President Obama prejudge the FBI investigation of Hillary's email contents and handling? gjr]

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145 responses to “Sandbox – 18oct15”

Walt

22 October 2015

But BILL!!! Nev. Co. is a “gun” too! And we are even pointed at the head of Nevada!

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Walt

22 October 2015

Wow.. Hillary sure looks business like. ” You got nothing on me.”.
Condescending bitch!

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fish

22 October 2015

Quote of the day…..
“When a Republican screws up, that’s the story. When a Dem screws up, the GOP’s reaction is the story.”
https://twitter.com/jtLOL/status/657238746752901120

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don bessee

22 October 2015

NRA 20 points higher in positive public perception the Hillary according to Gallup. 58 v 39. LOL

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Todd Juvinall

22 October 2015

I thought Wu was best friends with Pelline? Nothing critical on his blag! Also, did Frisch get jailed for doing the same thing this Wu babe did with her employees money?

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Bill Tozer

23 October 2015

Just saying.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3284885/Calls-versus-balls-Monkeys-smaller-testicles-roar-loudest-make-shortcomings-attracting-females.html

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Bill Tozer

23 October 2015

Hey, buttheads, don’t fly to the Paris Climate Lovefest nor arrive by a cruise ship. Go by sailboat or a slave ship with extra oars.
http://yubanet.com/usa/U-S-Climate-Negotiators-Urged-to-Support-Airplane-Ship-Pollution-Cuts-During-Paris-Negotiations.php#.Vio3snpHaK0

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fish

23 October 2015

OH NOES………

Jeb Orders Across-the-Board Pay Cuts for Struggling Campaign…Removing senior staff, canceling fundraisers…

With another Bush lemon why wouldn’t you vote for Hillary?!

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Walt

23 October 2015

What gives? How come The Union isn’t asking the hard questions?
http://www.theunion.com/news/18740301-113/mental-status-in-question-for-nevada-city-shooting
How did this nut case in Nevada city get his hands on a shotgun? You know,, the kind of person that should not be allowed to get their hands on a gun?
Where are the gun grabbers when you need’m?
I guess when it’s “one of their own” (Nevada city lunatics) that question just isn’t important.
It’s guys like me, Bill, Fish, George, and Fuzz they want guns taken away from.

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Ben Emery

25 October 2015

Paul Emery,
This comment is for you. Kudos on the Rita show the other night, everybody who was there loved it.
Lets not all forget how and why we invaded and occupied Iraq. Also lets ask for forgiveness of the millions of innocent people we displaced, terrorized, injured, and killed in the process(asking for forgiveness includes US/ Coalition military men and women for sending them in harms way and asking them to kill other human beings).
A two part email from me in 2006 to around 100 people who were on my political discussion list. Many if not a majority of them were Republicans.
9/11/06
I will send part II with tons and tons of quotes from the BIG FOUR in the Bush administration. This is so important please read and pass it on.
March 2, 2006
http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=12749
The most striking answer was the reason for the US presence in Iraq. Eighty-five percent of the troops said their mission is primarily “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9/11 attacks.”
Iraq’s Alleged Al-Qaeda Ties Were Disputed Before War
Links Were Cited to Justify U.S. Invasion, Report Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…/2006/09/08/AR2006090800777.…
A declassified report released yesterday by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence revealed that U.S. intelligence analysts were strongly disputing the alleged links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda while senior Bush administration officials were publicly asserting those links to justify invading Iraq.
Far from aligning himself with al-Qaeda and Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Hussein repeatedly rebuffed al-Qaeda’s overtures and tried to capture Zarqawi, the report said.
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
August 21, 2006
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/…/20060821.html
Q Quick follow-up. A lot of the consequences you mentioned for pulling out seem like maybe they never would have been there if we hadn’t gone in. How do you square all of that?
THE PRESIDENT: I square it because, imagine a world in which you had Saddam Hussein who had the capacity to make a weapon of mass destruction, who was paying suiciders to kill innocent life, who would — who had relations with Zarqawi. Imagine what the world would be like with him in power. The idea is to try to help change the Middle East.
Part II
Please Send On or Make Copies of Quotes and Post Them
Where You Can
This is so important please do not just delete. Our country was lied into War. That is an act of Treason against the United States of America. We need to hold those accountable for this act by IMPEACHING and CONVICTING. Vote Democrat across the board in November to start some real investigations in what actually went on in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq. For the record I’m not a Democrat but feel our country is truly in a crisis and we need some checks and balances.
Remember, Scott Ritter/ Hans Blix/ David Kay/ Charles Doulfer, all expert weapons inspectors held investigations (hundreds if not thousands of people) and came up with NO WMD’s or the capability to make them.
It is hard to disarm something that doesn’t exist. All of the Bush administration claims on why we had to invade immediately have turned out to be false.
March 2, 2006 http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=12749
The most striking answer was the reason for the US presence in Iraq. Eighty-five percent of the troops said their mission is primarily “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9/11 attacks.”
Thursday, June 17, 2004
The finding challenges a belief held by large numbers of Americans about al Qaeda’s ties to Hussein. According to a Harris poll in late April, a plurality of Americans, 49 percent to 36 percent, believe “clear evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda has been found.”
“The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda [is] because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda,” Thursday, June 17, 2004
(Saddam)”provided safe haven for a terrorist like Zarqawi, who is still killing innocents inside of Iraq.” Thursday, June 17, 2004
President George W. Bush Ties with Iraq (Saddam) and Al Qaeda
“The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 — and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men — the shock troops of a hateful ideology — gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the ‘beginning of the end of America.’ By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation’s resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed.” Source: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003).
“The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We’ve removed an ally of al Qaeda, and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more.” Source: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003).
“The regime (Saddam). . . has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda. The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons, obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country, or any other.” Source: President Says Saddam Hussein Must Leave Iraq Within 48 Hours, White House (3/17/2003).
“He (Saddam) has trained and financed al Qaeda-type organizations before, al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.” Source: President George Bush Discusses Iraq in National Press Conference, White House (3/6/2003).
“One of the greatest dangers we face is that weapons of mass destruction might be passed to terrorists who would not hesitate to use those weapons. Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraq intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. And an al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990s for help in aquiring poisons and gases. We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner.” Source: President’s Radio Address, White House (2/8/2003).
“Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help develop their own.” Source: President Delivers “State of the Union”, White House (1/28/2003).
“This [Saddam Hussein] is a person who has had contacts with al Qaeda.” Source: President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks by the President on Iraq, White House (10/28/2002).
“He’s a threat because he is dealing with Al Qaida. In my Cincinnati speech I reminded the American people, a true threat facing our country is that an Al Qaida-type network trained and armed by Saddam could attack America and leave not one fingerprint.” Source: President Outlines Priorities, White House (11/7/2002).
“He’s had contacts with Al Qaida. Imagine the scenario where an Al Qaida-type organization uses Iraq as an arsenal, a place to get weapons, a place to be trained to use the weapons. Saddam Hussein could use surrogates to come and attack people he hates.” Source: Remarks by the President at Arkansas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002).
“This is a man who has had Al Qaida connections. I want you to think about a scenario in which he becomes the arsenal and the training grounds for shadowy terrorists so that he can attack somebody who (sic) hates and not leave any fingerprints behind. He is a threat.” Source: Remarks by the President at Missouri Welcome, White House (11/4/2002).
“It’s a man who has got connections with Al Qaida. Imagine a terrorist network with Iraq as an arsenal and as a training ground, so that a Saddam Hussein could use this shadowy group of people to attack his enemy and leave no fingerprint behind. He’s a threat.” Source: Remarks by the President in Texas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002).
Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn’t have weapons of mass destruction, but he’s got them . . . . And not only that, [he would] like nothing more than to hook up with one of these shadowy terrorist networks like Al Qaeda, provide some weapons and training to them, let them come do his dirty work, and we wouldn’t be able to see his fingerprints on his action.” Source: Iraq Must Disarm Says President in South Dakota Speech, White House (11/3/2002).
“And I also mentioned the fact that there is a connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.” Source: President Condems Attack in Bali, White House (10/14/2002).
“We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader (Zarqawi) who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.” Source: President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks by the President on Iraq, White House (10/7/2002).
“The regime has longstanding and continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are Al Qaida terrorists inside Iraq.” Source: George W. Bush Delivers Weekly Radio Address, White House (9/28/2002).
“With every step the Iraqi regime takes toward gaining and deploying the most terrible weapons, our own options to confront that regime will narrow. And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorist allies, then the attacks of September the 11th would be a prelude to far greater horrors.” Source: Address to the United Nations General Assembly, White House (9/12/2002).
Vice President Dick Cheney Ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq (Saddam)
“Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. His regime cultivated ties to terror, including the al Qaeda network, and had built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction.” Source: Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks to Veterans at the Arizona Wing Museum, White House (1/15/2004).
“Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. His regime cultivated ties to terror, including the al Qaeda network, and had built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction.”Source: Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, White House (1/14/2004)
Absolutely. Absolutely. And you can look at Zarkawi, (Abu Mussab) al-Zarkawi . . . Who was an al-Qaida associate, who was wounded in Afghanistan, took refuge in Baghdad, working out of Baghdad, worked with the Ansar al Islam group up in northeastern Iraq, that produced a so-called poison factory, a group that we hit when we went into Iraq. . . . We’ll find ample evidence confirming the link, that is the connection if you will between al Qaida and the Iraqi intelligence services. They have worked together on a number of occasions.” Source: Transcript of interview with Vice President Dick Cheney, Rocky Mountain News (1/9/2004).
“Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. He cultivated ties to terror — hosting the Abu Nidal organization, supporting terrorists, and making payments to the families of suicide bombers. He also had an established relationship with Al Qaida — providing training to Al Qaida members in areas of poisons, gases and conventional bombs. He built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction.” Source: Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks at the James A. Baker, III, Institute for Public Policy, White House (10/18/2003).
He cultivated ties to terror, hosting the Abu Nidal organization, supporting terrorists, making payments to the families of suicide bombers in Israel. He also had an established relationship with al Qaeda, providing training to al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons, gases, making conventional bombs.” Source: Remarks by Vice President Dick Cheney at the Heritage Foundation, White House (10/10/2003).
“[Since September 11] We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the ’90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization.” Source: Meet the Press, NBC (9/14/2003).
“And the reason we had to do Iraq, if you hark back and think about that link between the terrorists and weapons of mass destruction, Iraq was the place where we were most fearful that that was most likely to occur, because in Iraq we’ve had a government — not only was it one of the worst dictatorships in modern times, but had oftentimes hosted terrorists in the past . . . but also an established relationship with the al Qaeda organization . . . .” Source: Vice President Dick Cheney Remarks at Luncheon for Congressman Jim Gerlach, White House (10/3/2003).
“If we’re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it’s not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it’s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” Source: Meet the Press, NBC (9/14/2003).
“And Saddam Hussein becomes a prime suspect in that regard because of his past track record and because we know he has, in fact, developed these kinds of capabilities, chemical and biological weapons. . . We know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization.” Source: Meet the Press, NBC (3/16/2003).
“His regime aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. He could decide secretly to provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against us.” Source: Vice President’s Remarks at 30th Political Action Conference, White House (1/30/2003).
“There is also a grave danger that al Qaeda or other terrorists will join with outlaw regimes that have these weapons to attack their common enemy, the United States of America. That is why confronting the threat posed by Iraq is not a distraction from the war on terror.” Source: Remarks by the Vice President at the Air National Guard Senior Leadership Conference, White House (12/2/2002).
“His regime has had high-level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to al Qaeda terrorists.” Source: Remarks by the Vice President at the Air National Guard Senior Leadership Conference, White House (12/2/2002).
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld Links to Al-Qaeda and Iraq (Saddam):
“Well, there’s no question but that Iraq has relationships with countries that are on the terrorist list. They also have relations with terrorist networks. They also have al Qaeda currently in the country, among other — Abu Nidal just, they say, committed suicide with four or five slugs to the head; that’s a hard thing to do — but he was in Iraq. So there’s no question about those relationships.” Source: Testimony of U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld before the House Armed Services Committee, House Armed Services Committee (9/18/2002).
“QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, today in a broadcast interview Saddam Hussein said: “There is only one truth, Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction whatsoever.” And he went on to say, “I would like to tell you directly we have no relationship with Al Qaida.”
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: And Abraham Lincoln was short.” Source: Donald Rumsfeld Holds Defense Department Briefing, Defense Department (2/4/2003).
The regime plays host to terrorists, including Al Qaida, as the president indicated.” Source: Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Myers Hold Regular Defense Department Briefing, Defense Department (1/29/2003).
“[T]here is no question but that there have been interactions between the Iraqi government, Iraqi officials, and al-Qaeda operatives. They have occurred over a span of some eight or ten years to our knowledge. There are currently al-Qaeda in Iraq.” Source: Secretary Rumsfeld Live Interview with Infinity CBS Radio, Infinity-CBS Radio (11/14/2002).
“Since we began after September 11th, we do have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad. We have what we consider to be very reliable reporting of senior-level contacts going back a decade, and of possible chemical- and biological-agent training. And when I say contacts, I mean between Iraq and al Qaeda. The reports of these contacts have been increasing since 1998. We have what we believe to be credible information that Iraq and al Qaeda have discussed safe haven opportunities in Iraq, reciprocal non-aggression discussions. We have what we consider to be credible evidence that al Qaeda leaders have sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire weapon of — weapons of mass destruction capabilities. We do have — I believe it’s one report indicating that Iraq provided unspecified training relating to chemical and/or biological matters for al Qaeda members. There is, I’m told, also some other information of varying degrees of reliability that supoprts that conclusion of their cooperation.” “Since we began after September 11th, we do have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad. We have what we consider to be very reliable reporting of senior-level contacts going back a decade, and of possible chemical- and biological-agent training. And when I say contacts, I mean between Iraq and al Qaeda. The reports of these contacts have been increasing since 1998. We have what we believe to be credible information that Iraq and al Qaeda have discussed safe haven opportunities in Iraq, reciprocal non-aggression discussions. We have what we consider to be credible evidence that al Qaeda leaders have sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire weapon of — weapons of mass destruction capabilities. We do have — I believe it’s one report indicating that Iraq provided unspecified training relating to chemical and/or biological matters for al Qaeda members. There is, I’m told, also some other information of varying degrees of reliability that supoprts that conclusion of their cooperation.” Source: Defense Department Regular Briefing, Defense Department (9/26/2002).
“It is the nexus between an Al-Qaeda type network and other terrorist network and a terrorist state like Saddam Hussein who has that weapons of mass destruction. As we sit here, there are senior Al-Qaeda in Iraq. They are there.” Source: Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Jim Lehrer, PBS (9/18/2002).
National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice on Al-Qaeda Iraq (Saddam) Links:
“Saddam Hussein — no one has said that there is evidence that Saddam Hussein directed or controlled 9/11, but let’s be very clear, he had ties to al-Qaeda, he had al-Qaeda operatives who had operated out of Baghdad.” Source: Meet the Press, NBC (9/28/2003).
“QUESTION: Do you believe, because this is continually a subject of debate, that there was a link between al Qaeda and the regime of Saddam Hussein before the war? MS. RICE: Absolutely. . . . But we know that there was training of al Qaeda in chemical and perhaps biological warfare. We know that the Zarqawi was network out of there, this poisons network that was trying to spread poisons throughout . . . . And there was an Ansar al-Islam, which appears also to try to be operating in Iraq. So yes, the al Qaeda link was there.” Source: Fox News Sunday, Fox News (9/7/2003).
“Now the al-Qaida is an organization that’s quite disbursed and –and quite widespread in its effects, but it clearly has had links to the Iraqis, not to mention Iraqi links to all kinds of other terrorists. And what we do not want is the day when Saddam Hussein decides that he’s had enough of dealing with sanctions, enough of dealing with, quote, unquote, “containment,” enough of dealing with America, and it’s time to end it on his terms, by transferring one of these weapons, just a little vial of something, to a terrorist for blackmail or for worse.” Source: Face the Nation, CBS (3/9/2003).
“Well, we are, of course, continually learning more about these links between Iraq and al Qaeda, and there is evidence that Secretary Powell did not have the time to talk about. But the core of the story is there in what Secretary Powell talked about. This poisons network with at least two dozen of its operatives operating in Baghdad, a man (Zarqawi) who is spreading poisons now throughout Europe and into Russia, a man who got medical care in Baghdad despite the fact that the Iraqis were asked to turn him over, training in biological and chemical weapons.” Source: Fox News Sunday, Fox News (2/16/2003).
“QUESTION: Is there any question in your mind about the al Qaeda connection? Did Powell totally convince people today in that area? RICE: There is no question in my mind about the al Qaeda connection. It is a connection that has unfolded, that we’re learning more about as we are able to take the testimony of detainees, people who were high up in the al Qaeda organization. And what emerges is a picture of a Saddam Hussein who became impressed with what al Qaeda did after it bombed our embassies in 1998 in Kenya and Tanzania, began to give them assistance in chemical and biological weapons, something that they were having trouble achieving on their own, that harbored a terrorist network under this man Zarqawi, despite the fact that Saddam Hussein was told that Zarqawi was there.” Source: Larry King Live, CNN (2/5/2003).
“MS. RICE: There is plenty to indict Saddam Hussein without a direct link to 9/11. He clearly has links to terrorism. QUESTION: All right. And links to terrorism would include al Qaeda? I just want to be certain. MS. RICE: Links to terrorism would include al Qaeda, yes.” Source: Fox News Sunday, Fox News (9/15/2002).
Secretary of State Colin Powell Ties to Al-Qaeda and Iraq (Saddam):
“QUESTION: Another rationale provided by the administration for action against Saddam is his connection to al Qaida. Tom Friedman, in the New York Times, wrote this: “I am also very troubled by the way Bush officials have tried to justify this war on the grounds that Saddam is allied with Usama bin Laden or will be soon. There is simply no proof of that, and every time I hear them repeat it, I think of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution from the Vietnam times. You don’t take the country to war on the wings of a lie.”
SECRETARY POWELL: I don’t think it’s a lie. I think there is information and evidence that there are connections. We have talked about Mr. al-Zarqawi and some of the people who are in Baghdad who are linked with al-Qaida and Usama bin Laden and who were there with the certain knowledge of the Iraqi regime. We have seen connections and we are continuing to pursue those connections. . . . And the fact that there is also an al-Qaida connection, I think certainly adds to the case.” Source: Interview on NBC’s Meet the Press with Tim Russert, NBC (3/9/2003).
“But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the Al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi an associate and collaborator of Usama bin Laden and his al-Qaida lieutenants. . . . From his terrorist network in Iraq, Zarqawi can direct his network in the Middle East and beyond. . . . We are not surprised that Iraq is harboring Zarqawi and his subordinates. This understanding builds on decades-long experience with respect to ties between Iraq and al-Qaida. . . . A detained al-Qaida member tells us that Saddam was more willing to assist al-Qaida after the 1998 bombings of our embassies . . . . Some believe, some claim, these contacts do not amount to much. They say Saddam Hussein’s secular tyranny and al-Qaida’s religious tyranny do not mix. I am not comforted by this thought. Ambition and hatred are enough to bring Iraq and al-Qaida together, enough so al-Qaida could learn how to build more sophisticated bombs and learn how to forge documents, and enough so that al-Qaida could turn to Iraq for help in acquiring expertise on weapons of mass destruction.” Source: Remarks to the United Nations Security Council, United Nations (2/5/2003).
“And, perhaps most critically, the President confirmed that Iraq has open channels and ties to terrorist organizations, including al Qaeda.” Source: “We Will Not Shrink From War”, Wall Street Journal (2/3/2003).
“QUESTION: What have you got on the other front linking Iraq with al Qaida and Usama bin Laden? POWELL: We do have information that suggests that there have been links over the years, and continue to be links, between the Iraqi Government and al Qaida. And the more we look at this the more we are able to look back in time and connect things with people who have come into our custody and other information has become available to us. It’s clear that there is a link.” Source: Interveiw by ITN Television of Great Britain, ITN (1/29/2003).
“QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, you have spoken, in Davos most recently, about a connection between Iraq and terrorist groups, including al Qaida. Are you saying there is evidence that that has happened in the past, or is there evidence currently that there’s still a connection? SECRETARY POWELL: I think we have said consistently all along, through last fall and into this year, that we have seen contacts and connections between the Iraqi regime and terrorist organizations, to include al Qaida. As we have been able to focus on this more and look back in time, I think we’re more confident of that assessment and we see no reason not to believe that such contacts and the presence of al Qaida elements or individuals in Iraq is a reasonable assumption, and we have some basis for that assumption.” Source: Briefing on the Iraq Weapons Inspectors’ 60-Day Report: Iraqi Non-cooperation and Defiance of the UN, State Dept (1/27/2003).
“The more we wait, the more chance there is for this dictator with clear ties to terrorist groups, including al-Qaida, more time for him to pass a weapon, share a technology, or use these weapons again.” Source: Remarks at the World Economic Forum, State Dept (1/26/2003).

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larry wirth

25 October 2015

Question, Brother Ben: Just where do you think Bashar Assad got his WMD? Maybe from those semis rolling in from Iraq just ahead of the US invasion? Think about it- no one was claiming Syria might have WMD- until they did…

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Bill Tozer

25 October 2015

I dunno.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/745355018931871/?type=3&theater

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don bessee

25 October 2015

Is someone paying brother Ben by the word?

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Ben Emery

26 October 2015

Larry,
Where have all the weapons in the region come from? You got it, the USA.
I think the bigger question is; Why does the US think it has the right to interfere in the governments and politics around the world?
Does America’s interests trump the interests of the people of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, ect…?
Arming the Middle East: The Checkered History of American Weapons Deals
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/arming-the-middle-east-the-checkered-history-of-american-weapons-deals-a-498421.html

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Ben Emery

26 October 2015

A question to all of you guys-
Does American Interests trump the interests of the people of ________________ nation?
I thought you guys were about individual liberty. Saying our interests are more important than the citizens or people of other nations therefore we have the right to trample on their natural rights as human beings and the sovereignty of there nation is astonishing. This idea shows the lack of understanding what the ideal of liberty and freedom actually is or means. It also proves my point that you are for rights, liberty, and freedom for yourselves and to hell with anyone else that doesn’t agree with your ideology.

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Walt

26 October 2015

DAMN Dr. R.,, a little friendly fire incident? I’m sure Todd isn’t going to sue.
What’s a little “dick Cheney” incident among friends?
http://www.ncscooper.com/area-conservetarian-blogger-accidentally-shoots-companion-blogger-in-spenceville-turkey-hunt/
I’m sure we can guess just which “Turkeys” you guys were hunting.

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fish

26 October 2015

Posted by: Ben Emery | 26 October 2015 at 08:38 AM
It also proves my point that you are for rights, liberty, and freedom for yourselves and to hell with anyone else that doesn’t agree with your ideology.
Actually it proves nothing at all Ben which really isn’t surprising.
Trump, were you paying attention even a little, is a phenomenon of which you should approve! His showing is a huge middle finger to those establishment parties against whom you constantly rail. Perry out due to lack of interest. Walker pretty much the same. Christie ……done! Bush may very well spend a quarter billion in donor money and not crack double digits….he was whining this weekend about “having better things to do” than grace the United States with his magnificence.
How do you not view this as a good thing?

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George Rebane

26 October 2015

Walt 848am – Well, I just had to write a Memo to File: Remind ToddJ to devise an alternative means of getting close to prey the next time we go hunting. That realistic turkey suit that he was wearing confused the clutch of turkeys we were stalking, but it also completely fooled me. I thought I had successfully picked out the biggest bird of the bunch when I drew bead and fired. Sorry about that Todd, the next round of drinks are on me when you get home from the hospital 😉

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Gregory

26 October 2015

The more Ben quotes the less Ben has to think… I think with the latest he’s down to about zero.

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George Boardman

26 October 2015

Dr. R, I hope you didn’t lose any street cred with local conservatives after Pelline tried to throw in the same Dumpster with me.

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George Rebane

26 October 2015

GeorgeB 134pm – Not at all Mr Boardman, proud to occupy the same dumpster with you, a fellow ideologue who communicates his ideas and observations much to the ire of those who disagree with such well-formed patterns of thought 😉
Interested readers may find the URL in the ‘Our Links’ (right panel) to the referenced ‘dumpster’ wherein we both are regularly denigrated.
BTW, I did enjoy your column this morning and was planning on a similar piece, but you scooped me fair and square. And in case you missed it, here is the link to Mr Boardman’s column –
http://www.theunion.com/opinion/18749743-113/george-boardman-another-example-of-why-the-privileged

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don bessee

26 October 2015

How polite of you and Mr. Boardman to categorize the dark lord whos name we will not utter’s blog as a dumpster. Very gentlemanly of you two. 😉

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

George B. @ 1324:
Of course Dr. Rebane just lost some street cred here. Amateur, the Good Doc is. He may be a rocket scientist, but he ain’t no Dick Cheney. Cheney also peppered the backside of a fellow conservative, but Cheney ain’t no amateur. Dick done shot himself a connected lawyer and Todd (to my knowledge) ain’t no high flauting member of the bar in good standaning. Sorry Todd, but a Republican lawyer’s rosy behind trumps a lowly County Supervisor 9 out of 10 times.
Brother Ben and his Traveling Salvation Show @ 0838 in the am.
To answer your inquiry, that is an astounding Yea!!! We are big, they are small. They were meant to serve the interests of the USofA, never the other way around. If they don’t take an particular liking to that fact of life, they can always immigrate north to Greenland, a very large place with lots of space to rear goats.

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Upon further consideration, the Good Doc ain’t very handy with swords either. Best to hid the whittling knife when he enters the room. Next time use a corkscrew, Doc, that’s what they are made for. 🙂

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Todd Juvinall

26 October 2015

So someone is trashing me again? I hope it is funnier than the last time. Where is this again?
Boardman’s column was very good this morning. Keep it up, and your columns too!
Ben Emery sure is a ungrateful louse. Here we have GeorgeR and Russ Steele and maybe more, fellows retired from the military and all they get from the weasel Ben is trash talk. Who the hell were these men fighting for Ben? Your sorry ass that’s who.

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Todd, check out Walt’s 08:48 in da morning. I, for one, certainly enjoyed it. So, just get back from the hospital? When did they release ya? Isn’t stupid how they insist on pushing ya out the door in a wobbly wheelchair and then dumping ya over on the sidewalk at the back entrance. Seems to me it would be safer to just walk out under one’s own power. Yep, at least the Scooper was kinda funny this time.

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Todd Juvinall

26 October 2015

That was funny but not as funny as the last not too funny from the Scooper.
Ironically I have been in the Auburn hospital off and on and today too for a friend who is ill. Alas, I am fine, but my plastic surgery to repair the shot damage made me look like a young Warren Beatty! Look out gals!

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Ben Emery

26 October 2015

Todd,
What are you talking about? I ask for forgiveness from US/ Coalition military men and women for allowing our governments to send them into harms way based on greed and fossil fuel profit margins.
Iraq or even Afghanistan didn’t have anything to do with 9/11. Both of those had to do with gas pipelines and oil fields. We had to insert puppet regimes to get control of the governments for the approval. Iran is holding out and that is why they have been in the cross hairs since 2001.
Bush Rejects Taliban Bin Laden Offer
By Kathy Gannon
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001; 1:50 p.m. EDT
JALALABAD, Afghanistan –– A senior Taliban leader said Sunday that the Islamic militia would be willing to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country if the United States halts the bombing of Afghanistan and provides evidence against him.
President Bush quickly rejected the offer.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011014/aponline135016_000.htm

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George Rebane

26 October 2015

BillT 400pm – Et tu Mr Tozer; I’m bereft. Forsaken by one of my own. Let the record show that there was nothing in the Scooper’s report about my not being “handy” with a gun (or a knife). The whole unfortunate affair revolved around ToddJ’s clever hunting outfit. I hit what I aimed for.
However, truth be told, I’ve had a couple of embarrassing incidents with cutting implements. The last one was reported here (Aug 2014) when sabraging a champagne magnum, I almost lost a finger when the damn bottle exploded.

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Ben Emery

26 October 2015

I forgot on the all opinion no facts blog using direct quotes and siting sources is considered a weakness. It is hard to misquote somebody when their own words are used along with the source of the quote.
You guys just cannot admit that the Republican Bush/ Cheney administration with almost 100% support for the Republican Party lied us into a multiple invasions and started the complete chaos that is there now. Oddly it is Saudi Arabia that remains unscathed despite 15 out of 19 terrorist on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. The biggest promoters, teachers, and financiers of Wahhabism comes from Saudi Arabia. Also Saudi Arabia is one of the absolute worst human rights violators on the planet.
I think Obama continuing many of these policies and even expanding on some of them constitutes crimes against peace and humanity. The leadership of the party backs these policies and violating our civil liberties. They are almost as bad but not quite. That is why I don’t support either party.

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Brother Ben, you are almost correct for once. Lordy, Lordy, will wonders never cease. Benjamin, it’s not that we “cannot” admit that the Republican Bush/Cheney administration blah, blah, blah. blah to infinity and beyond. Of course we can, silly boy.
It’s just that we “won’t” admit, not now, not no way. “Nobody sees The Wizard, not no how.” Won’t ever give you the pleasure, and judging solely by the response of the humongous hush all over this blog, seems like nobody will throw you or Brother Paul a crumb, no matter how many times you plead, no matter for how many years.
Brother Ben, what you seek you will not find. Live in everlasting turmoil as Bush Derangement Syndrome rears its ugly head and devours another lost frustrated soul. My condolences to what is left of ya.

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Todd Juvinall

26 October 2015

My turkey suit full of GeorgeR’s buckshot is now headed to the Smithsonian. Along with a picture of GeorgeR standing over my prone carcass with his foot on my chest. It is going into the Second Amendment accident cubicle.
Ben Emery, you are irrelevant and your disingenuous postings here show the readers what a ungrateful liberal sounds like. You are a truly not a respectful or nice person and thank goodness you were never in the military. You and Beau would still be helping the Taliban.

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Dr. Rebane@ 5:02pm. So, when you make a spectacle of yourself in front of a live audience with every eye glued on your slightest movement….and you proceed to fling warm blood on the dinner guests and they, in turn, heave up their just masticated fine food and merriment, it’s called “sabraging”??? Oh, that’s what that word means. Learn something new everyday. I think I get the “raging” part to end that 2 dollar word, but what does sab mean?
Oh, BTW Good Rocket Scientist, always wanted to know what you did for an encore that formerly cheery evening? Sneeze in the dessert? Spew blood on the future generation? Or did you lie and announce to the brightest and best of the younger generation, “Nothing to see here but hurt pride! Pay no attention to the hand wrapped in the champagne bucket towel.”

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Dr. Rebane @ 1702:
Now wait just one cottonpickin’ moment. That unfortunate learning experience happened in August, 2014 and this is late October, 2015. According to my calculations that I have checked not twice, but thrice, that means that the one year anniversary date has come and gone. What fool did you get to substitute for you for doing the rabraging thang this year? I dare not ask to find out what the results were.
Take heart. In years of yore, my college dorm initiation ritual that I endured as a greenhorn freshman was hence and forever more banned by the college administration the following year. Underage students and drinking in a cave in the dead of night down a most narrow trail cut into the face of a cliff was apparently a big no-no, as well as strapping us underclassmen to the hood of an Oakland Pimpmobile speeding at a high rate of speed across rural America on below freezing nights. It was fun while it lasted.

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George Rebane

26 October 2015

BillT 715pm – Mr Tozer, the annals of our monthly poker assemblage clearly record that on the anniversary (Aug 2015) of that unfortunate demonstration, I did again sabrage a fine bottle of the bubbly (or flask of the flatulent, if you will), this time without incident. For those interested in deeper historical detail, I wore the pair of Kevlar gloves which my youngest offspring had delivered after I promised her that I would so outfit myself before the next decapitation. Those wishing to review the original report will find it here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/08/to-sabrage-or-not-to-sabrage.html

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don bessee

26 October 2015

So was it a magnum or a jaboom sized bottle Dr.R?

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Bill Tozer

26 October 2015

Kevlar. gloves? My, that is living on the edge. I would have figured you would have appropriated the ole suit of amour from one of the Knights of the Round Table situated in some poorly secured museum.
Another example in a very long list throughout the annuals of humanoid existence that weapons and copious amounts of librations do not mix. Yes, this carved in the stone truism has repeatly been challenged without positive results since man first stomped grapes.
Just how much social lubricants did you consume before you blasted our friend Todd walking about innocently in the brush? Always remember guns and alcohol do not mix, especially when you pick and enjoy a few magic mushrooms hiding under the cow pies you just can’t help yourself from turning over with the toe of the boot.
No wonder you were a range instructor. At least the military was wise enough to have the other guys firing at the targets. Our journey through life goes on….for those who believe that gun control means using both hands. Poor Todd. He was always nice to you. What’s up with dat? We all have our demons I suppose.

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George Rebane

27 October 2015

The faulty receptacle was a magnum Mr Bessee. And Mr Tozer, booze and guns never mix – no, no, no. Your humble scribbler has been a firearms instructor and range officer for over fifty years, and actively continues in the practice. Readers who wish to shoot under my watchful eye are invited to come to the NC Sportsmen range on 8 and 15 November between noon and 4pm when we invite the public to enjoy the ancient and honorable sport of safely making precisely placed little holes in paper.

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Bill Tozer

27 October 2015

Hmm. There must be 50 ways to leave your lover.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/27/report-isil-blows-up-prisoners-antiquities/74670628/

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George Boardman

27 October 2015

Dr. R, here’s a candidate for a safety class:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dog-trigger-shoots-owner_562e98b3e4b00aa54a4ad667

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George Rebane

27 October 2015

GeorgeB 1140am – Good pick up Mr Boardman. I am sure that I would not want to be in the same hunting party with that woman. The shotgun should have its safety ON at all times except when she puts it to her shoulder to shoot. And laying a gun ‘in battery’ on the ground is even a bigger no-no. Would be interesting to discover if her hunting mates understand the risk they assume with that gal.

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Gregory

27 October 2015

GB, that hunter already had a safety class, required in every state I know of and a steady drumbeat in periodicals devoted to hunting. They flunked the knowledge retention and application of common sense phase.
Regarding B’rer Ben, he has repeatedly shown an innate inability to rub two facts together in order to create a hypothesis, preferring the communication styles of our distant cousins kept under lock and key in the zoo who fling the ammunition they are able to create themselves in any and all directions.

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fish

27 October 2015

Ooooh……John Boehner……going out like he served on his knees before his liege….King Barry the First.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/27/jeff-sessions-says-his-knees-quiver-over-boehner-obama-deal/
….and the establishment republicans can’t figure out why the “Cuckservative” label went viral!

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Todd Juvinall

27 October 2015

I am very saddened by what Boehner has done. I am shocked.

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George Rebane

27 October 2015

Administrivia – the brand new and fresh 27oct15 sandbox is now open for business.

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