[It turns out that socialist Connecticut, one of the most leftwing, richest, and corporatist states in the Union (hedge funds, corporate headquarters, and Wall Street mavens from NYC) "has a huge pension problem' (here). "Connecticut has roughly half of what it needs to pay future retirement benefits for its workers, meaning the home to scores of hedge funds and some of the country’s wealthiest towns is wrestling with financial distress rivaling that of Kentucky or Illinois." gjr]
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233 responses to “Sandbox – 4oct15”
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I posted a rebuttal to the Frisch’s tripe on AB32 this morning. My goodness the man has no smarts.
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Steven Frisch @ 9:03
In re: the other “C” word, then may I paraphrase you?
“Well then, its use by the Tucson correspondent would be fine, because he qualified the statement when he made it to say he was referring to the effect of Obama’s policies.”
See how that works? People who don’t want to hear such words shouldn’t use them themselves. Actually, I hadn’t heard that particular racial epithet in probably 50 years until a person of color chose to remind us all of it.
Think of it as a grenade rolled into the collectivist tent, just to see the reaction.LikeLike
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Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 08 October 2015 at 10:06 AM
Posted by: larry wirth | 08 October 2015 at 10:13 AM
You both have it backwards, what I said was the the use of the word was inappropriate.
“So …um..let me be the first to say it is not OK for anyone to call anyone a “Coon’ whether a college professor from Pennsylvania or a blogger from Nevada County. It is a racial pejorative and thus, other than placed in context to discuss the history of race relations or language, it is inappropriate.”LikeLike
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So Todd, let me get this straight, you are defending the use of the word Coon to describe President Obama. I could care less about what somebody said elsewhere. that’s just a diversion.
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Steven Frisch | 08 October 2015 at 10:18 AM
You were caught posting anonymously on my blog. I thought you said you always use your real name.
Paul Emery | 08 October 2015 at 10:19 AM
Say what? Why do always put words in other peoples mouths. You are the racist Paul Emery, I am not.LikeLike
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Posted by: Steven Frisch | 08 October 2015 at 09:03 AM
“Given the above, I believe that anyone – professor or commenter – who uses such labels as ‘coon’ to identify someone should immediately qualify its use as descriptive of the opposed behaviors by the so designated.”
Well then its use by the Pennsylvania professor would be fine, because she qualified the statement when she made it to say she was referring to the affect of Carson’s policies.
Georges statement notwithstanding I’m surprised that anyone thinks that the epithet “coon” could be plausibly associated with any of the effects of any policy or proposal espoused by Ben Carson.LikeLike
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GOP Clown Alert! McCarthy pulls out!
Chaos in the GOP House ranks. Total Chaos reigns this morning in the House. No clear path to a new Speaker! Oh this is going to be fun to watch the fireworks!
What a GOP Clusterfk.LikeLike
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Folks are always going off on how radical Islam is trying to destroy our way of life. Anyone ever think about how the native Americans felt about radical Christians destroying their way of life?
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Perhaps McCarthy bailed because the whole Benghazi thing was exposed for what it is/was….political BS designed to attack Hillary.. and many of you folks bought into it hook, line, and sinker. You can fool some of the people all the time, but don’t get fooled again.
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Steven @ 10:18
Yes, you had it right the first time. It was @ 9:03 that you ran off the rails trying to excuse a liberal’s use of the term.LikeLike
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Yes or no Todd, do you support the use of the word Coon to describe President Obama. Simple
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Posted by: Joe Koyote | 08 October 2015 at 10:35 AM
Anyone ever think about how the native Americans felt about radical Christians destroying their way of life?
Pretty sure that it’s all Ben thinks about!LikeLike
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Maybe we can stop the nonsense about “free stuff” now. WE ALL GET FREE STUFF from the US Government. All of us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/opinion/we-all-get-free-stuff-from-the-government.htmlLikeLike
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The Benghazi Committee will seriously come back to backfire and hurt the GOP next year. The harder they push on it, the worse it will be. What a freaking joke of a political stunt. We can actually thank Kevin McCarthy for his honesty. Trey Gowdy is the personification of a crazed zealot.
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Posted by: Jon | 08 October 2015 at 10:42 AM
Bryce Covert is the economic policy editor at ThinkProgress and a contributor at The Nation.
Yep…nothing but clear unbiased thinking based on rational economics from Bryce!
Nope….no agenda whatsoever.LikeLike
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Larry
Can you explain to us what you were meaning to say when you described President Obama as being the Coon in Chief?LikeLike
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Posted by: Jon | 08 October 2015 at 10:45 AM
Trey Gowdy is the personification of a crazed zealot.
No Christmas card then…..? 😦LikeLike
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I think the suicide caucus of House Republicans should go all in and promote Louie Gohment for speaker.
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For the record, my 947am did NOT modify my 854am, but only expanded its original presentation with an example for those who misunderstood the original dissertation.
JoeK 1035am – Yes, Christians pretty much destroyed the native American cultures they encountered, which cultures are now being revitalized in more compatible forms. What was the intended point of your observation – that Muslims are now having a similar effect on cultures they colonize or conquer?LikeLike
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Paul Emery | 08 October 2015 at 10:41 AM
Say what? I personally do not call people derogatory names on their race or ethnicity. I have no control over anyone but me. Paul, you have called me many derogatory names. Why would you do that? Is it your lack of intelligence? You are jealous I get the pretty gals and you don’t? Why are you so slumlike in your discourse?
In other matters,
Muslims have 1.5 billion adherents in countries they conquered a thousand years ago. JoeK, what can you say about that? Do you feel guilty. Shulf those conquered people open casinos?
Benghazi remarks by McCarthy were totally accurate. He said Hillary was lying, the committee is seeking the truth and all that has affected her poll numbers. All true. Yes? Big deal. The reason Kevin dropped out is because there are 40 plus members who want a new face. Benghazi is nothing. A
nyway, Native people’s here were run over by a superior civilization which has happened for thousands of years. America is the first country to go into deep depression about that and as a country, the left wants us to get therapy.LikeLike
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The young man from Sacramento who aided in foiling the train terrorist in France was stabbed three times by thugs in Sacramento. Identified as Asian men. Spencer Stone went to the aid of a woman being attacked by the Asian thugs. He almost died. First resonders saved him and he is now in UC Davis Med Center.
Paul Emery, what do you think of that?
Steve Frisch, would you have intervened as Stone did ot stand there peeing you scivies?LikeLike
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Todd
I don’t have a clue of what you are trying to make a point of.LikeLike
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We need knife controls.
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“what do you think of that?”
I agree Paul, what are we supposed to say? The guy was hanging around Midtown Sac at closing time for the clubs, with a bunch of drunk, violent men, and drunk women milling about, and he tried to help a woman being accosted. The bar scene there is terrible and heavier police presence and security is definitely warranted.LikeLike
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Gregory | 08 October 2015 at 12:40 PM
The knife did it not the stabber.LikeLike
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“Benghazi remarks by McCarthy were totally accurate. He said Hillary was lying, the committee is seeking the truth and all that has affected her poll numbers. All true. Yes? Big deal. The reason Kevin dropped out is because there are 40 plus members who want a new face. Benghazi is nothing.””
Totally accurate? OK, the Committee is violating the law and needs to be immediately disbanded. I agree. As for the rest of your supposed explanation- its about the funniest thing I’ve read in a few weeks here.
Not good for the GOP Brand boys! Letting the local-yocal crazed minority of Republicans pick a guy to be 2 heartbeats from the Oval Office. Total Chaos.
Even McClintock was smart enough to bail on these lunatics.LikeLike
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Send prayers for the young man’s speedy recovery.
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Not good for the GOP Brand boys! Letting the local-yocal crazed minority of Republicans pick a guy to be 2 heartbeats from the Oval Office. Total Chaos.
Even McClintock was smart enough to bail on these lunatics.
The best part of this is that it’s the ardent progressive democrat losing his mind over this. The Republicans here are.“……eh….whatever.”
Politics…..show business for ugly people!LikeLike
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According to the Sac Bee, the Stone incident started with a beef in one of the bars and was continued outside. No witnesses the Bee interviewed said anything about a woman being assaulted.
It sounds to me like the old story of too much testosterone mixed with too much alcohol producing the usual predictable results.LikeLike
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fish, the R’s are very calm and it will all pan out. The loony left thinks the American people give a rats ass about this. They don’t. What is exciting to many Americans though is the marginalization of the left. People now see them as the thieves they are. Goodness I love this stuff. Libnuts are a minority and will remain so for a long time.
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Todd, that’s nearly verbatim the same thing you said before the 2012 election.
Keep saying it enough and you will end up believing it! LOL.LikeLike
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“The loony left thinks the American people give a rats ass about this. They don’t.”
Ten bucks says that the Roger Ailes Network leads every one of their prime time shows with this House fiasco.LikeLike
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Posted by: Jon | 08 October 2015 at 01:31 PM
Ten bucks says that the Roger Ailes Network leads every one of their prime time shows with this House fiasco.
Ten bucks says you’re glued to the tube breathlessly watching every second.LikeLike
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Fish, I just recalled this. Wasn’t it the left that said Benghazi was a side show right from the beginning. Even Hillary said “what difference does it make”? The left said Americans could care less.
Now they say Benghazi is going to sink the party! The libnuts are confused and the people see how stupid they are. Trump is right about that.LikeLike
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Todd, you might be good at deluding yourself, but according to my calculations, 30-40 wild far right House Repubbers does not the GOP majority make. None of the other 200+ GOP members are all that thrilled at today’s fiasco. So unless you think these 200+ members are fine with lunatics like Louis Gomert or Trey Gowdy, I am not quite sure the Party is all that relaxed and calm right now.. 🙂
From NYT latest piece- “Some Republicans worried that the current unraveling might be even worse than 1998, which played out in a crisis atmosphere as the House was voting to impeach President Bill Clinton.
“Even then we knew we could resolve it ourselves,” said Representative Pete King, Republican of New York. “But now you have a situation where there are 30 or 40 people in their own party who say they are not going to vote for anyone no matter who it is. We have to end this. We look absolutely crazy.”LikeLike
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Posted by: Jon | 08 October 2015 at 01:40 PM
Atta boy jon….defend the Republican status quo!LikeLike
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Well this should buoy democratic spirits……seems as though “Orange Julius” will remain for now.
The political Punch and Judy show can play for a few more episodes~!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-08/john-boehner-stay-speaker-after-all-fox-reportsLikeLike
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Paul E @ 10:48
You already have all the explanation you’re going to get; grenade and collectivist tend. If it’s ok for a black Penn professor to call Dr. Carson by that term, then surely O is the chief of that tribe, no?LikeLike
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fish, not a matter of defending the status quo, but the small minority in their breathless verve to take charge didn’t consider the full consequences of their palace knife wounds to Boehner. Indeed- your friend and mine, and the Pope’s, will still be calling the shots for the foreseeable future. Glory Days! The Freedom Caucus got what they asked for, didn’t they? I’m actually hoping like Mr. Boardman that they vote for a lunatic like Gomert. With the weakened Hillary and no Joe yet, again the GOP shows its really good at doing everything in its power to pull defeat from the potential jaws of victory,
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Kevin Williamson made a good suggestion a couple of days ago: how ’bout calling on Newt Gingrich to reclaim his old job?
And, no, one doesn’t have to be a member of the House to be the Speaker. Frankly, it makes a lot of sense to me.LikeLike
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So what if Boehner resigns from Congress and remains the Speaker- which is possible- are they going to patch him in via GoToMeeting on the the 19th hole?
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LarryW, what agreat idea. Newt back in charge. Other than his global warming stance (maybe different now?) he would be great.
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Posted by: larry wirtth | 08 October 2015 at 02:15 PM
Gingrich is a hack! Surely there has to be somebody that TEAM STUPID can field that doesn’t play for the “Washington Generals”. Boehner should retire to a womans shelter for all the political abuse Obama inflicted upon him. Of course Cryin John might be into it….their relationship mutually co-dependent!
I’m really just digging the chaos! Everyday that they aren’t “legislating” is a good day!LikeLike
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Larry
Racism is racism. Don’t try to make excuses. Your use of language id defiantly racist, no explanation is accepted without at least an apology as to the hurt you cause by such behavior. I can see why black folks feel uncomfortable living here. We are the whitest county in California. The folks of color I know are always overhearing snide racist comments when they are out and about and then there’s the awful incident that happened at Rollins Lake to an out of town family having a reunion.
“Allen said the family, as a group, decided to leave around 2 a.m. Sunday and drove out of the campground. She said it was the first time in her life she had ever experienced such overt racism and it left her deeply shaken.
“Maybe we were a little bit naive to think we could go into an area that is not necessarily known for diversity and think that nothing would happen,” she said.”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/03/man-who-allegedly-terrorized-african-american-campers-faces-criminal-charges/71627706/LikeLike
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Fish, I too am enjoying the “play”. The American people in general could care less. Only a few of us and most of the libnuts pay attention. The libnuts think they have a say. They don’t.
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Paul,
And its also Latino, Asian and Middle Eastern communities as well. I have friends in all three categories, some who live here full time, some from Sac and the Bay Area who visit. Even though its a minority of ignorant, cracker racists causing problems, this can be a very scary place for them.LikeLike
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The very apathy towards the question of local racism is stunning. This blog is testomony to that. To call the President a “coon” and not even acknowledge the racist intent is astounding.
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Now here is a worthy idea, and one in which the majority of the non-partisan American electorate would certainly support.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-for-a-republican-democratic-coalition-in-the-house-2015-10-08?dist=afterbellLikeLike
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Does it sound like time for Moonbeam to send the National Guard up here?
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George
You completely miss the seriousness of this matter. Racism is alive and well in Nevada County and your blog is ample evidence.LikeLike
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