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[Apologies for the belated opening of the new sandbox.  Sure would like to hear a discussion about the relative merits of Heidi Hall and Cheri West, candidates for District #1 Supervisor.  Also, what can our BoS do to slow down the drain of liberties and our loot to Sacramento?  gjr]

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165 responses to “Sandbox – 29sep15”

  1. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    fish, just freak weather in South Carolina? Just like Sandy was freak weather for NY/NJ? Forget the mathematical odds of these events.
    Back to priorities tomorrow. We need Benghazi answers!

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 October 2015 at 09:38 PM
    I love it when you guys get all apocalyptic.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    We had similar events here in Sacramento 140 years ago, way before cars and machines. Sacramento raised all the structures 12 feet if I recall. Yep those rain events are all just new phenomena. What a joke.

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  4. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    About three weeks ago I posted a graph on my FB page (which Todd is banned from because of his nature) about ocean temperatures in the central Atlantic being about 4 degrees cells higher than average over the last 100 years. I suspect we are going to see some interesting data coming out in the next few weeks about how much energy, and thus power behind storm surge, that temperature increase resulted in. A similar calculation will be done on how much moisture content the temperature increase resulted in in the Joaquin portion of the storms that hit the southeastern coast. Insurance companies will take that data and recalculate costs for flood insurance, because re-insureres will not let them write policies without enough revenue to back them up, and property owners will see their bills increasing starting next year. That is the cost of climate change.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Must be time to build me an ark. Will gather two or each coywolf and no liberals. Walt can bring his German Shepard mixes and a couple of jackrabbits. I will start building Dr. Rebane the guest perch for him and the lovely misses. Ah, heck, I will make room for the Fish family and the wiener dog and a couple of cats as well. Note to self: load up on mice to feed the cats.

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  6. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Scott and Todd,
    At what point and level do you want government interference with women’s reproductive system?
    From conception does the pregnant woman become property of the state as an incubator of life and therefore loses all rights as an individual?
    These are very real questions, so please answer them the best you can.
    Personally I don’t think many extreme anti abortionists have thought the who thing through when it comes to how oppressive these policies can become.

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ben Emery | 05 October 2015 at 09:43 AM. You say,
    “At what point and level do you want government interference with women’s reproductive system? ”
    I have never said they should be involved at all. Where did you come up with that question?

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 05 October 2015 at 08:11 AM
    That is the cost of climate change.

    Nope! That is the cost of letting ninnies rebuild year after year in areas know to be subject to flooding during hurricane and hurricane type weather.
    From Southern Waters by Colten

    “Flood insurance discussions began before the mid-1960’s. Gilbert Whites seminal analysis exposed the rising costs of flood damages even as flood control expenditures spiraled upwards. His work dramatically exposed the ineffectiveness of relying solely on structural protection and opened the door to the discussion of spreading the costs through insurance. Congress deliberated a much broader disaster insurance program after the serious hurricane-induced floods in 1954 and 1955, and it even passed a flood-control act in 1956 (PL 84-1016). This represented a pared down agenda from a more comprehensive but less politically palatable disaster insurance option. Nonetheless, it was the vigorous 1954-55 storms that inspired a search for insurance that would provide coverage beyond the normal hurricane belt and for other types of floods. Indeed a 1956 tabulation of twentieth-century flood damage in the United States revealed that the most recent hurricanes had pushed the northeastern ahead of the South – $1.1 Billion in damage compared to $1.0 billion. Of course the reflects as much the extent of development in floodplains and the value of property susceptible to damage as the frequency of flood events. Given this economic reality, it is no surprise that six of the seven locations where hearings took place were outside the South, and consequently witnesses from the northeastern states dominated the proceedings. Yet their arguments, though perhaps not directly adopted from the script of the southern politicians, bore a striking similarity. Connecticuts delegation made the case that while hurricanes had been rare in New England, recent events suggested they now shared that risk with Florida. Representative Dodd of Connecticut, while taking an accommodating position towards his state’s insurance industry, argued that the federal government was “obligated to promote the general welfare of its people” and that subsidizing insurance was one way to do that. The general message was that the problem was national in scale and localities should not be expected to bear the full financial burden. The 1956 act reflected widespread geographical support, but the insurance program remained unfunded and not operational.”

    But those who foolishly chose to live and build in flood prone areas eventually got their way and were able to externalize…hey there’s that word again….their costs by socializing them on the backs of the rest of the taxpayers.
    Another example of the left encouraging poor choices by subsidizing them!

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  9. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd, 05 October 2015 at 09:49 AM
    I got that question from these statements.
    “….The govt has a responsibility to protect that life. If a govt will not, first and foremost, protect the most vulnerable – it has no reason to exist.”- Scott Obermuller |
    “ScottO, excellent points…..” – Todd Juvinall
    So Todd
    “The govt has a responsibility to protect that life”, at what level do they have the authority to exercise that responsibility?
    Does the state own a women’s body once they become pregnant in order to protect the potential life in their womb’s?
    Does a woman forfeit her individual rights when she becomes pregnant?
    If women are forced to carry all pregnancies to term should all the costs be covered by our government? Where does the revenue come from to pay for such services?

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ben Emery | 06 October 2015 at 12:56 PM
    Ben asks,
    “The govt has a responsibility to protect that life”, at what level do they have the authority to exercise that responsibility?”
    You tell me Ben Emery. Since you claim a “right to privacy” I have no say in any of it.
    Ben asks,
    Does the state own a women’s body once they become pregnant in order to protect the potential life in their womb’s?
    Of course not Ben Emery, just as they do not own the body of any murder victim. Or a convict waiting for execution.
    Ben Emery asks,
    “If women are forced to carry all pregnancies to term should all the costs be covered by our government? Where does the revenue come from to pay for such services? ”
    I say,
    If a person has free will to get pregnant, I think the costs are on them. Why should the taxpayers pay when a woman with free will says “yes” to unprotected sex? You are certainly available to pay their bills Ben, leave me out of it since you say I have no right to even have a say.

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  11. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    A long non-answer.
    If we are going to force women to have full term pregnancies through government then the financial and support services responsibility falls on us, through our government. I believe in having the services available to all women and children despite or abortion laws. That’s me, I am a pro-life kind of guy.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Ben Emery | 06 October 2015 at 01:56 PM
    Are you able to read?
    Non Answer? Your comprehensive levels must be the same as three year old man/boy.
    My position has always been the woman has to make peace with her GOD and conscience. I personally do not interfere. She just doesn’t get my money.
    Hey Ben Emery, did you know that if a woman f free will decided to terminate her pregnancy she doe not need the approval of the sperm donor? Did you know that if she, a woman of free will, decides to take the baby to life the sperm donor is frced to pay child support? So you libs have it both ways. You should be happy dancing in the street!

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  13. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: fish | 05 October 2015 at 10:42 AM
    By all means Fish let’s limit development in flood plains.
    Of course that would not have helped the residents of Columbia South Carolina, which is 120 miles from the coast. They received more than 12 inches of rain in less than 24 hrs. and most of the damage was in areas outside of mapped 100 year flood plains.
    To say that the fact that Hurricane Joaquin was significantly stronger because ocean temperatures in the central Atlantic were 3-6 degree hotter than normal in modern history and that held the low pressure system dropping rain in central South Carolina in place much longer than normal is standard meteorology.

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  14. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    Then why did you agree with Scott’s points that wasn’t your position?
    “My position has always been the woman has to make peace with her GOD and conscience. I personally do not interfere. She just doesn’t get my money.”
    Then you should have no problem with planned parenthood since tax payer money towards abortions isn’t used.
    Todd, you do realize the sperm donor can walk away from a pregnancy but a woman can’t? This is the very reason the decision is ultimately up to her. Three people should have a say in this decision- medical professional, woman, and the man who participated in the pregnancy. Again the medical professional and the man don’t have another human being grow inside them for 9 months so their input is important but the woman needs to make the last and most important decision for herself and potential child.

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 06 October 2015 at 03:29 PM
    They received more than 12 inches of rain in less than 24 hrs. and most of the damage was in areas outside of mapped 100 year flood plains.

    Yeah….thousand year storms and all that!

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