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George Rebane

It is clear the Left’s “climate scientists” can be anyone with the politically correct attitude toward AGW.  It is a different matter for the AGW skeptics, their bona fides must include a degree in climatology for openers, else they are dismissed as not qualified to speak on the issue of anthropogenic global warming.  This aspect of the global warming debate comes into focus this Saturday at the GV Peace Lutheran Church as reported by The Union and the Auburn Journal.  There the leftwing League of Women Voters will assemble a couple of worthies to discuss, “How can the actions of our leaders impact our climate?”

TomSuchanekHeading the marquee is Dr Tom Suchanek (pictured), he has a BS in zoology, MA in ecology and evolution, and a PhD in biology.  He has been on the government tit all his life studying “coastal marine ecology”.   Joining him will be geologist Dr Diz Smith advertised as a “former energy industry leader”.  (H/T to Russ Steele for digging out Dr Smith’s bio.)

It boggles the professional mind that the Left continues to assume the public to be so gruberized as to accept these people as some kind of domain experts in ANY relevant aspect of AGW involving physics, chemistry, data management, estimation theory, stochastics, complex dynamic systems, algorithmics, computational error propagation, finite element modeling, feedback systems design, …, the list goes on.  Such events should clarify the kind of ‘climate scientists’ that the AGW alarmists count in the UN’s IPCC “scientific consensus” that gives rise to ‘the debate is over’ hysteria which demands we immediately start doing very stupid things on a massive scale and worldwide.

So when it comes right down to it, if you are a skeptic with degrees and decades of professional experience in the climatology related physical sciences, mathematics, computer science, complex dynamics systems, probabilistics and stochastics, large scale computer models, data handling, algorithmics, decision theory, financial engineering, … with the ability to understand the seminal climatology literature, your skeptical assessments re AGW are not accepted.  However, if you’re a biologist or geologist or, God knows, maybe even a labor lawyer or piano tuner with a history of global warming activism, you are automatically qualified to be presented to the public as having sufficient expertise “to discuss (the) several aspects of climate change.”  Such is the state of the national debate, so go figger.

[11sep15 update]  A reader sent me this graphic from the Heartland Institute.  It correctly summarizes the current global sweep of politically driven ‘science’ and compares it to real science which is forever skeptical and has been vigorously suppressed wherever it dared raise its head.

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71 responses to “The Left’s Climate Scientists on Parade (updated 11sep15)”

  1. Walt Avatar

    Yes, Stevey,, when junk science is used to inflict damage upon the masses.All under the excuse of “the greater good” and “we know best”.
    From fake dead polar bears, to claiming glaciers would be all gone.(yet they are still there) Yup,, “scientists” said so. Plenty of ice still at the North Pole despite a “scientist” predicting it all gone by THIS YEAR.
    None of the ECO bastard doom and gloom predictions have even come close to being right.
    In simple terms,, Horse shit…
    With all the fires we are having, and ALL that “greenhouse gas” production from them, the Gov. should suspend all driving. ( Empty the freeways) to help the environment.
    All the eco buggie’s work has been in vain.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    GeorgeR, 1:42 PM, excellent points. But as we read later, Frisch cannot even accept the premise. He is stuck in some dungeon of denial that it is possible to evolve through life and education. He is stuck in the first press releases by the econuts back in the late 80’s. (money to be made) He is stuck. He has not learned anything to better himself. He is a parrot. A lemming, a true believer. Then there is “jon” the lurker around elementary schools who shows up here to be the other parrot of the true believers in the hoax.

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  3. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 12 September 2015 at 03:07 PM
    Seeing you spin around the ad hominem maypole like some crazy whirling dervish is a perverse joy in my life. When your little pointy head explodes no one around you will even notice.

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  4. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Steven F, upthread. I don’t think you grok what I wrote; the 18+ year pause is real indeed, and yes, it is about the warming (not) of the atmosphere. The sea temperatures, about which you write, were revised earlier this Summer to discount the ARGO buoys, which are our best tool so far, and replace their findings with ship engine intake temperatures from prior years, which are suspect primarily because the depth of the sea at said intakes varies considerably from ship to ship.
    IOW, bad data was substituted for better data. Do we really know anything about sea temperatures? That’s what the ARGO buoys were supposed to answer, but the AGW folks would like to dilute that data with older, less reliable data.
    So, tell us all, your real explanation for the flat lining of atmospheric temps for 18+ years. That is, after all, where we live.
    Followed your link to SkS and found, surprisingly, that their prediction was for about 1.1C for this Century. Hmm- sounds fine to me, no problem.
    It is a fact that the MWP was warmer than the present; why else would scientists keep finding thawing Viking settlements in Greenland- it must have been warmer back when they were settled. Took a course in Scandinavian literature back in the day, and I am sure that Eric ‘the Red’ and Leif ‘the lucky’ weren’t lying in their accounts, they had no reason to do so, unlike today’s climate “scientists,” who have an very obvious reason to do so.
    And, while we’re on the subject, why would 1-2C increase in global temperature lead to catastrophe? So far, the measurable effect of increased CO2 in the atmosphere has led only to an increased greening of the planet and a resultant bounty of food crops. Address that issue, Mr. Green.

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  5. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    On another note, Australian government changed hands yesterday, climate denier Tony Abbott is out and Macomb Turnbull is in…fancy that 🙂
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/abbotts-climate-change-policy-is-bullshit-20091206-kdmb.html

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Steve Frisch, I think you better start reading your links as the one you posted from the Sydney Paper says nothing of the sort. Here is a link to Reuters from yesterday
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-australia-politics-election-idUKKCN0RE05X20150914
    Abbott is possibly facing a challenge with his Liberal Party leadership from Turnbull and “climate change” is a side issue. The country has accepted 10,000 Syrians and that along with some economic issues is the story.
    So, please link us to the “defeat” of Abbott and his replacement by Turnbull. Your veracity is now quite suspect.

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Hey George, we have a new loon from the left attacking you in the paper today. He is a lawyer who worked for the State for 30 years.
    http://www.paulsberger.com/
    I responded with a ditty on the Union this morning. LOL!

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  8. Stevenfrisch Avatar
    Stevenfrisch

    Todd, it’s up to you to stay up on the news. The column I posted was from 2009 and I posted it as an example of their differences on climate change.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Stevenfrisch | 14 September 2015 at 08:27 AM
    Where in that post do you say anything other than the link is today? My goodness are you off your meds?

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    ToddJ 752am – Thanks for the heads up Todd. Read it this morning. Besides the ad hominems, it is bland response directed to the informationally deprived. But it will deserve a response.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The man is a lawyer who worked in the appellate system for California over thirty year. Is it possible he is grends with the Newsom’s? Maybe those Newsome’s are related to Gavin Newsome? And Gavin father was a judge and the boss of the Getty Trust? The Getty Trust owned the Loma Rica Ranch.

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  12. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 September 2015 at 09:07 AM
    What are you stupid or something? I posted a column to, a) illustrate my point that Abbott and Turnbull are at odds over climate change, and b) becuase in the past posters here have used Abbott’s position to illustrate that other countries are rejecting AGW as a theory.
    If you want to play with the smart people you need to keep up little man.
    Oh, and it is “Newsom” not “Newsome”

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Steven Frisch | 14 September 2015 at 02:14 PM
    Are you that stupid that you can’t even read your own post? Apparently. What a twit. Abbott and Turnbull are the same party. The Aussie people did not booot Abbott, his own party did and it was because of the economy, not the climate change hoax. I am a little man compared to your girth so I will accept the compliment. My goodness the Truckee area is really stuck with a loser.

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  14. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Are you a loon Todd?
    I said, “On another note, Australian government changed hands yesterday, climate denier Tony Abbott is out and Macomb Turnbull is in…fancy that :)”
    I did not say “the Aussie people” booted Abbott, I said the government changed hands, which is precisely what it did, it went from Abbott’s hands to Turnbull’s hands.
    You have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Are you that dumb Steve Frisch? You don’t even recall what you said and in the context you said it. God help the Truckee area if you are allowed any power there. You have things so screwed up I don’t think you are recoverable.
    Your reading comprehension is less than my four year old grand daughter. Try harder and stop being so transparently idiotic.

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  16. Walt Avatar

    Here we go again,,, http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/15/climate-change-deniers-bad-hitler-yale-history-professor-goes-full-godwin/
    Read the story, and just see “which side” is closer aligned with Hitler. ( and it’s not us “deniers”…)

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  17. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Just thought I would drop in here to congratulate the 11 Republican members of the United States House of Representatives that introduced this Resolution this week:
    http://gibson.house.gov/uploadedfiles/environmental_stewardship_resolution.pdf
    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/254021-11-republicans-seek-to-fight-climate-change
    I would encourage readers here who know that climate change is a significant risk and the increased risk is substantively human caused to write personal letters of support to the brave vanguard of the Republican party who ‘get it’. They should know we have their backs.
    For those of you who disagree, just be your normal selves; the more you talk the better off those of us working to find a solution will be.

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  18. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 September 2015 at 03:50 PM
    By the way Todd, it should be obvious to any one other than you reading this thread that you are demonstrably dumber than a rock. My original post is right there for all to see.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Steven Frisch | 18 September 2015 at 08:09 AM
    I could not find a vote for this Resolution so maybe Frisch can supply the results?
    Gibson is not running for re-election to the House in 2016. He is probably going to run for Governor of New York which explains this Resolution. 11 members of the R party signed on to this which does not surprise me as there are many Democrats who offset the hoax. I am urging the Congress to cut off all grant money for this hoax and to cleanse the Federal government of this virus that is wasting our money.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    When the science just isn’t there……prosecute the dissenters!
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/17/scientists-ask-obama-to-prosecute-global-warming-skeptics/#ixzz3m6i5gZfj
    Because science…..

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