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Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other.  Oscar Ameringer

George Rebane

‘Black Lives Matter – but Reality, Not So Much’.  National columnist and keen observer of the social scene Jason Riley agrees with RR’s long-held position on the unmitigated crap that the liberals have been handing out to the black community about how valuable such lives are.  A look at the progressive programs over the last 40 years paints another picture.  Only the local loonies are unclear on the concept.

Our Designated Reader reports that the FUE continues to burnish his journalistic credentials claiming that The Union is biased 3-1 against AGW reporting.  The fact is that, starting with the 29aug15 Newsom column, the newspaper published two additional pro-AGW columns in quick succession – 5sep15 by Barbara Rivenes, 7sep15 by Edlin Patterson.  This left the score 3-1 against the skeptics of which Bob Hren’s 5sep15 piece was the only rebuttal until Russ Steele’s letter and my 8sep15 Other Voices joined Bob’s article.  Now with Todd Juvinall’s letter, the score is 3 pro-AGW columns vs 2 skeptic columns and 2 skeptic letters.  That seems pretty even-handed to me.  But don’t expect any change from the Lamestream Liar.

A sandbox commenter posts some words attributed to reader Mr Steven Frisch that so clearly illustrate the Left’s use of the Saul Alinsky paradigm – accuse the other of exactly what you are doing.  In the skeptics’ blogs (including RR) the ‘science’ behind the AGW hysteria is dissected and countered in detail.   And on the True Believer blogs all you find are ad hominems against those who present evidence of fraud and error in the disseminated and swallowed consensus science.  So what’s a Leftie to do in such a case?  Why, just accuse them of what you do.

The Cato Institute just published a massive comparative study of the EU’s welfare systems.  No country advertises that its welfare and entitlement programs range between the dysfunctional and the unsustainable (America’s leftwing lemmings lap up these lies by omission while continuing to worship at the altar of European socialism.)  The bottom line is still that, led by Denmark, all the EU welfare programs make weaning recipients next to impossible by the implicit marginal tax rates they impose on people exiting the program for a job.  And today all EU member states are scrambling to find ways to cut back their entitlement and welfare disbursements without bloodletting in the streets by Europeans who have grown quite comfortable with the status quo.  Cato compares their folly to ours, and it ain’t pretty.  You should at least read the Exec Summary of ‘The Work Versus Welfare Trade-off: Europe’.

The EUs Muslim migrant onslaught continues unexamined.  We’ve recently discussed its other details under my recent KVMR commentary, ‘The Great Cultural Divides of 2016’, but here is an additional thought that occurred to me.  It is remarkable how rapidly the globalists can embed the 'right to ubiquitous movement and residence' into a population that has for its entire existence lived under strict authoritarian rule where no such rights previously existed.  We see videos of Syrians, who have passed through lands where their life and limb are not threatened, demand to continue their progress toward more safe and salubrious destinations, there to start new lives.  They give no thought to the rights of the people through whose countries they tramp, or in whose lands they will plant their divergent and dysfunctional cultures.  And the west’s governments (including ours) are so riddled with globalists that there is no chance that the question of such assumed rights will be raised.  If someone from a failed state declares himself a refugee, then today he has an automatic worldwide right to your work and wallet.  And our addled leaderships continue to be surprised by reports that such insane welcoming policies and de facto recognition of migrants' right to transnational migration are motivating additional hundreds of thousands to begin their journeys northward.  When did territorial sanity and sovereignty die?

[11sep15 update]  I just put down the phone with Supervisor Nate Beason.  Now that Ms Heidi Hall has announced her candidacy for District #1 supervisor, I wanted to reinforce my previously stated intention to support Nate were he to run again.  On this call I urged him to go for his fourth term, and told him that Jo Ann and I are in his corner should he decide to run.  In talking to many people of my persuasion, I have not run into anyone who would not support Nate Beason in a race against our new socialist-in-waiting Ms Hall.  The last thing we need in these foothills is another leftwing lackey to launch their political career promoting Sacramento's internationally recognized insanity in Nevada County.  Nate said that the Beasons will announce their decision in the next week or so, and the phone call left me hopeful.

[13sep15 update]  Ferguson was a total lie from beginning to end – "Hands up, don't shoot!" was bullshit, and the 'protesters' were thugs hired and imported.  They were hired by MORE, the successor outfit to Missouri's ACORN, now bankrupt.  But then MORE stiffed the 'protesters' who are picketing to get their checks.  Another hard left organization MAU is urging MORE to pay up since the thugs did what they were contracted to do.  The full story is reported by NEWSMAX here.  At every turn the Left lets us know that they are not only stupid, but also just plain evil.  (H/T to reader)

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80 responses to “Ruminations – 9sep15 (updated 13sep15)”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    His sock puppet Annie posted on my blog. LOL!

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Russ
    My 4:04 was a quote from Media Mattersnot my own. Here’s the link
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/24/fox-news-cites-birther-to-claim-nasa-faked-glob/199871

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    What I meant by “assumed rights” referred to those who “assumed” they had nationalistic status over the lands they possessed. It;s no different that we assume we have rights because we possess and control the lands we reside in. Obviously that would change if we we defeated by another entity.
    The Japanese American Citizens interned during WWII certainly know what “assumed rignts “are.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Russ
    Here’s a link about what Watts and other “skeptics think of Goddard
    https://reason.com/blog/2014/06/23/did-nasanoaa-dramatically-alter-us-tempe

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  5. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 10 September 2015 at 10:21 AM
    The Japanese American Citizens interned during WWII certainly know what “assumed rights” are.

    A shameful chapter in our nations history! Interesting that it was authorized by progressive luminary Franklin Roosevelt.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1021am – Exactly so. It appears you are beginning to understand what is a ‘right’ in the existential or operational sense. As should be clear from my extensive dissertation on the topic of ‘rights and privileges’, that without the umbrella of an appropriately powerful agency (e.g. government with guns), there can be no rights beyond philosophical bloviation about them. As I’ve explained before, might might not be right, but only might can guarantee a right.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/03/rights-and-privileges.html

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I actually don’t hold FDR to blame though. The Japanese sneak attacked and the powers that be said “who can we trust”? Lots of Americans died at Pearl Harbor and over the next few weeks many more in the far east. War is hell FDR may have thought “Trojan Horse”?
    So now we parse that out of the history and try to make vanilla out of it. Liberals never get over anything, they, like Paul Emery, never move forward.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well noted Fish

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Somebody needs to spend a little less time in front of the TV in the afternoons…..

    jeffpelline on September 10, 2015 at 10:22 am
    In the last 24 hours, this group has blown its gasket. The men in white coats are on standby, because Dr. Phil doesn’t think he can make a dent in things.

    Really jeffy…learn to spice things up a bit…..sprinkle a few Oprah references in your bleats now and again.
    It’s what good writers do!

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  10. Walt Avatar

    So Fish is a flatlander.. Big deal. And an urbanite.. So what? There is a blowhard in Truckee sticking his nose into affairs of PV. Just because the two places happen to be in the same county is meaningless. (an invisible boundary line)

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 1151am – Just so Mr Branson, RR is not a local blog like several others in our county. RR readers cover the country, and some are even overseas. I take special pleasure in distant readers taking an interest in and commenting on some of the local affairs mentioned on these pages. (I credit that to the remarkable reasoning and comments provided by our progressive commenters – the spice of socio-political debates.) Distant visitors are most welcome.

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “I am not seeking an advantage–I am seeking format where the rules are equally enforced for all participants–in such a venue I need no advantage, because people like Greg are incapable of controlling their emotions, engage in ad hominem attacks, use poorly sourced material and obfuscate to the point that the victor is clear.”
    Steven, you’re the one who, time after time, entered here with a statement like “you guys are all friggin’ insane” and after getting nowhere, do a Cartmanesque “Screw you guys, I’m going home.” The statement of yours I quote above appears to me to be nothing more than “projections”.
    http://www.britannica.com/topic/defense-mechanism#ref195659
    Pay attention to #3
    My sources tend to be citations from the peer reviewed physical science literature; please don’t confuse my postings with those by people who have a science background comparable to yours.
    Stephen has not, either with his initial challenge, specified any format nor the question. I proposed a format, I’d propose as the question, “AGW is not a crisis”.

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Looks Like Moonbeam plans to act like “O” with “executive action”
    “Brown, who has made climate change a priority of his administration, said he will push forward on greenhouse gas emissions using his executive authority. The bill will preserve the California Air Resources Board’s existing power to make regulations that reduce emissions.”
    The day can’t come soon enough when the sane people have had enough. Either get rid of the ECO lunatics, or get the State of Jefferson ball rolling.
    If that 50% deal had stayed in, you can bet the SoJ plan would happen a lot sooner than later.

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Regarding the politics swirling around the Japanese internment, a friend of mine who was held with his parents at Manzanar thought Gov. Earl Warren (R) was pushing for it to disgorge Americans of Japanese descent from their farms in the San Fernando Valley and elsewhere in California. Warren was pushing for it as state Attorney General, before he was elected Governor, before Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Hate for people who had Japanese ancestry, whether they were American or not, was arguably one of Warren’s stepping stones into the Governor’s office.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    re Gregory’s 1208pm – Gentlemen, if you are both serious about such a debate, then I suggest the following. Accept a thesis stated in the form of a proposition; Mr Goodknight’s “AGW is not a crisis” would serve. Each of you write up a summary (any length you consider appropriate) of your arguments – Mr Goodknight pro, Mr Frisch con – and I will publish them at an appropriate time before the scheduled debate. The links to the pieces would be published with the debate announcement(s).
    Readers planning to attend would therefore be able to read and study your arguments at their convenience. This allows you both during the debate to quickly summarize your initial positions that are already familiar to the audience, and then spend the remainder of the time in countering the other’s arguments, which is really the part in which people would be interested. What say you to this approach?

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George, I have no interest in such a format as you describe. I’ve proposed a question, I’ve proposed a format and I’ve proposed a venue and suggested moderators. Steven has not shown any interest in soberly discussing the science over the past 8 years, and I’ve no interest in a bare knuckles fight over the politics. Let one table discuss the politics, another the science, and have an opportunity for crossover discussion after each table has explored the question. If Frisch wants to spend some of his closing remark time to attack me, I’d be happy to respond appropriately.
    And, of course, poll the attendees for their view of the question before and after the event.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 1241pm – was not aware of the detailed road you have already walked with SteveF. Rest assured that the last thing I need is to put involvement in such a debate as another item on my plate. I am overjoyed that the matter is dead.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The matter isn’t dead, George, I’m just not interested in your stab at a format and process.
    I first incurred the wrath of Frisch, Michael P. Anderson and Doug Keachie at the old The Union blog, most all of it over the global warming question, which first caught my eye circa March 2007, sparking a swim into the peer reviewed literature which continues to this date.
    The paper I’ve cited the most over that time was probably “Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate?”, Shaviv & Veizer 2003 and as far as I can tell, neither Manny, Moe nor Curly Joe ever bothered to try to read it. When I met Anna Haynes for the second time to collect my dollar for the bet she lost upon first meeting and she offered me some science instruction, she refused to take the hard copy I printed for her since it didn’t have what she expected for evidence … “graphical proof”… meaning a graph showing GCR vs temperature correlating. Apparently, temps rising and CO2 rising is all she really needed to hold her opinions steady.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 130pm – I definitely got the feeling from your delicately worded 1241pm that my effort to suggest some way forward was not appreciated. In these pages I have made and will continue to make clear the bases for my AGW skepticism. These must have made a mark on True Believers since over the years their substance has been answered only by crickets, and in return I have been vilified for daring to go where only ‘climatologists’ may tread. So for all intents and purposes I withdraw from the progress that you and SteveF will make, and wish you the joy of coming to some profitable conclusion.

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  20. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 10 September 2015 at 12:41 PM
    Greg, I am not seeing where you proposed a format, venue and moderator, could you please repost?

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  21. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    By the way, you guys really need to re-read (or actually read rather than repeat what you think you know) The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements by Eric Hoffer. He was talking about you 🙂

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 10 September 2015 at 02:51 PM
    The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements by Eric Hoffer. He was talking about you 🙂

    That’s funny! You just can’t stop projecting can you? 🙂
    So we gonna have a debate or not? I was counting on driving up and annoying some of you in person for once!

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Frisch, scroll up to 09 September 2015 at 04:19 PM for the proposal you either missed or ignored.
    George, “I definitely got the feeling from your delicately worded 1241pm that my effort to suggest some way forward was not appreciated.”
    Perhaps if you’d have built on my proposal rather than ignore it, you’d be less miffed. I had already made it clear I’ve no desire for a local fight billed as the Battle of Greg vs Steve on Steve’s, but I’d be happy to present the science from my point of view with others with a science bent, which I do on a fairly regular basis anyway. Steve has not shown a talent for rational discussion over the past 8 years and I see no reason to believe there will be a change in the near future.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 336pm – I am equally guilty with SteveF in missing your proposal, for which I apologize. For the record, my 1229pm was not meant to prescribe the debate process but only suggest the next step as a preamble in good faith for the debate, the detailed conduct of which you two would mutually adopt. I also have no problem in participating if the science and the public policy sides can somehow be separated. I don’t see how that can be done since public policy is based on an undefined utility that uses agenda-driven scientific conclusions (truths). But we shall see.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Fish, 3:03 you have that pegged. Climate Alarmism has been a movement of the progressive left since since it started in the mid ’80’s. It reached its zenith circa 2007 but since then it’s been moving sideways, along with the temperatures.
    The inflection in the temperature rise is about where the sun began weakening, and now many are seeing a coming Maunder Minimum. It has NOT been demonstrated that CO2 sensitivity is 2C or above, which is what is required for a dangerous positive feedback warming to drive us to the brink or beyond.
    CO2 sensitivity is the single most important piece of information in the climate debate and what passes for mainstream climate science has not narrowed it one bit since the first swag in 1979, the “Charney Report”. http://www.atmos.ucla.edu/~brianpm/download/charney_report.pdf … despite boatloads of money thrown at the problem, the IPCC still has it in a range of 1.5 to 4.5C for a doubling of CO2 based mostly on their model outputs matching temperature data, while physicists looking at it from a more basic thermal physics model put it lower, Shaviv pegs it at around 1.2C (which is about what it would be with neutral feedback) other estimates have been as low as .7 which would be negative feedbacks predominating.

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 10 September 2015 at 02:51 PM

    American adults get a D in science; 22% confuse astronomy and astrology…

    To continue yesterdays discussion”these” are really the people that you are counting on to believe in Climate Change. I’m guessing that these were Hoffers actual focus not the skeptics.
    Indeed that you haven’t managed to get any real penetration into the psyches of the “Amurikan Peeples” is a testament to your incredibly weak Marketing Fu!
    http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-science-quiz-americans-pew-20150909-story.html

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And he does it with taxpayers money! Snake oil salesman!

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 900am – Good pick up. While nowhere near as rigorous as the Dept of Education’s ‘longitudinal study of adult literacy’ (much reported on RR), the results reported by the LA Times tie well with that study now in its fifth decade. So there you have another harbinger of the great intellectual deficit that afflicts our electorate. These are the same folks who today have to evaluate everything from socialism’s siren song to consensus science on AGW, and the overwhelming part of them don’t have a clue. These pages are witness to the science-free arguments that the True Believers fervently offer to maintain their sense proper place and time. As the Founders feared, they will gladly vote us into tyranny.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 11 September 2015 at 09:44 AM
    No it certainly wasn’t…..but since was in the LA Times and promoted by Drudge I’d guess that more will see this headline than the Dept of Education study. And again, these are the same people that the Steves of this world are counting on to usher in his glorious carbon free lifestyle. I imagine that should he succeed, it will be much like those who looked at their Obamacare statements and lamented….“I wanted everybody to have free health care, I just didn’t think I’d have to pay for it!”

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