235 responses to “Sandbox – 5sep15”

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   Ben Emery

   12 September 2015

   Fish,
   If you look towards the Scandinavian nations and places like Germany Democratic Socialism seems to be producing the highest levels of happiness, education, health, and equality on the planet. Funny how I have a number of nations including the US 1940’s-1970’s where Democratic Socialism works and you guys have third world dictatorships to point with your libertarian fantasy world. My brother lives in one of those nations that would be considered libertarian paradises, people and children get their drinking water from muddy pot holes because there is no infrastructure. In Cambodia (Kingdom)a war despot basically forced his way into power and has become insanely wealthy selling off the nations resources to China and the highest bidder while suppressing his own people. He has set up what is going on now with mineral extraction, deforestation, and damming up the major rivers for ever changing the culture.
   http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33702814
   So you guys can take your unfettered capitalism and jam it up your rear ends and I will continue to fight to bring democracy to capitalism. If we flip it where capitalism controls democracy we get fascism and that is what rules the day in our nation today.

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   Ben Emery

   12 September 2015

   George,
   The gun point description is getting old.
   Nobody has a gun pointing at you to pay your taxes. They might have the law on their side but that law was passed by democratically elected representatives. Far cry from a gun from all ruling other forcing you to participate in society. Oddly enough you guys seem to be fine with people of color being gunned down by authority figures. Hmmmm, a person of color being gunned down by authority and you’re ok with it but you’re expected to pay taxes for infrastructure and services and you equate it to being held at gun point. You guys are pathetic and absurd.

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   Todd Juvinall

   12 September 2015

   Ben Emery, we are a capitalist country. If you desire socialism so much, migrate to your favorite place. Along with all those Syrians.

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   fish

   12 September 2015

   Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 01:05 PM
   Scandinavian nations are going broke too Ben. A big part of the reason that they are importing the middle east…..they think they can turn the Islamic hordes into productive Scandinavians. Pity if you are a woman in Malmo these days…..middle easterners aren’t nearly as feminist as you are….great place to visit if you are into rape.
   Lot to be said for the quality of the people living in a country….the United States when it had a minimalist government produced the highest standard of living in the world….if the Cambodians can’t manage that ……well I guess it sucks to be them! Maybe your brother should send the Socialist Peoples Republic a sternly worded letter with a lot of links to goodfeelz…..I’m sure that will do wonders!

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   Walt

   12 September 2015

   Ben,, Tell you what. You like it so much, why don’t you move there? Go to where it is.
   ENJOY.. Free market and unbridled capitalism is what made this nation to be the greatest on the globe. Yes, the world looks to us.(or at least they did till Progressives fucked it up)
   Only those that suck on the government tit like socialism. Not the working stiff. Work you butt off to get taxed 60% + ? F U!!
   We can take up a collection right here for your one way ticket to Cuba. It’s a Commie nation,, enjoy…
   You almost got your wish right here. Gov. Moonbat would choose just how much you can drive, choose just what you drive, and say just how much you can heat your house with.
   Now us home owners will need to comply with new gov. regs. We must upgrade.
   You ready to foot the bill? Or does your landlord need to? (get ready for your ent to reflect the cost… sorry, no bitching)

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   fish

   12 September 2015

   Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 01:15 PM
   Nobody has a gun pointing at you to pay your taxes.
   Really? Try not doing it! See what happens eventually.

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7. 

   John

   12 September 2015

   Ben Emery, there are a lot of “odd” ideas/statements so I will only inquire about your apparent contempt for capitalism and the horrible “American Way” from your 1:05 post above. Who else besides we “bad Americans” are sacrificing our blood and treasure around the world to protect and save innocent people from tyranny and slaughter? Name one country Ben who is doing even close to what we are doing all over the world? And no, Africa has no oil or treasure to gain with our efforts. Anyone you are proud of in that effort Ben?

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   fish

   12 September 2015

   Oddly enough you guys seem to be fine with people of color being gunned down by authority figures.
   Really? By all means then present your evidence!
   You don’t think that the authorities in Ferguson wouldn’t have been happy to throw that cop to the mob……? Really what’s a single cop to keep the revenue stream going? And you did know that Ferguson filled it’s municipal coffers in large measure from fines don’t you?
   http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-missouri-racism-tickets-fines/
   http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-ferguson-missouri-court-fines-budget.html
   http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottbeyer/2015/03/11/fergusons-court-fine-scandal-arose-because-of-its-bloated-government/
   The same thing with the guy was was choked out in NY……cheating the state of it’s tobacco revenue.
   Nary a peep from Ben about root causes when you can just hurl “racism” charges around. So much more satisfying emotionally!

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   Walt

   12 September 2015

   Ben… You DO know, you go to jail for failure to pay taxes? No “gun to your head”? Really?? You must be one of those that don’t pay “your fair share”. Taxes are only for the “rich guy” to pay. I guess it’s easier to leach off others productivity, and get a check in the mail from the Gov. “Santa”.
   I know you have health problems.. so do I. But I don’t get (or take) a dime from Uncle Sam.
   So tell us. How does it feel to be a burden on society? It’s a feeling I’m not familiar with.

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10. 

    George Rebane

    12 September 2015

    BenE 115pm – Well that’s a passel of unspoken words you put in my (and everyone else’s) mouth. Is that what passes for productive debate on the other sites you visit?
    Re my “gunpoint description getting old” – With certainty I assure you that to ever forget government mandates are executed at gunpoint is not only maximally foolish, but dangerous. That is why you ‘bigger govt is better’ types are extremely scary, especially when you get into a voting booth.
    Naifs like you might be interested that no less than the celebrated Alan Greenspan (as reported even by the NY Times) warned us some years ago – “Government regulation is not an alternative means of protecting the consumer. It does not build quality into goods, or accuracy into information. Its sole “contribution” is to substitute force and fear for incentive as the “protector” of the consumer. The euphemism of government press releases to the contrary notwithstanding, the basis of regulation is armed force. At the bottom of the endless pile of paper work which characterizes all regulation lies a gun …”

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    Ben Emery

    12 September 2015

    I feel so sorry for you guys being terrorized for so long. I have been in countries with local people not tourist guides that have to pay at gun point. If they do not get paid they either turn around and go back or try to proceed and get killed. I have also been places with 100% strict curfews otherwise you will be shot. So your victim position seem outrageous and sad to those who really have to pay at gun point.
    A story from my brother on the continent of Africa. He and a new African friend were going to visit the friends village one afternoon. Some reason their ride was late and they were going to get caught out after curfew so they delayed the trip to the next morning. The next day when they arrive at the village the entire thing was in flames and everybody and ever animal was slaughtered by militia. The delayed ride saved my brothers and his friends life. Unfortunately the friends entire family and village were all killed.
    So to hear you guys whine about paying taxes and comparing it to actual life and death is pathetic. You guys should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves.

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12. 

    Todd Juvinall

    12 September 2015

    Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 02:50 PM
    Do you read what you write? You just mad the best case for living in America under capitalism and the rule of law. Please tell us all where the same things you stated above are happening in the USA. Of course you can’t. But you are also a chicken shit because you won’t go over there and help your brother. There are no whiners or victims here Ben Emery. My goodness, how a brain like yours can make a case that men like GeorgeR and Russ and Walt are “victims” is really rich. They all served to protect your ingrate ass from the very people you like so much.

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13. 

    fish

    12 September 2015

    Oh Ben about your “libertarian paradise”…..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia#Khmer_Rouge_regime
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_People%27s_Party
    Funny how many “Peoples Republics” descend into shitholes after you lefty theoreticians have bent them over a table and had your way with them!
    Remember….blame everybody but your ideological soulmates…..the go to method of saving face in socialist circles since the 1920’s!

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14. 

    fish

    12 September 2015

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 02:50 PM
    Yep….I’m sure a “Universal Lifeline Fee” on every Africans telephone statement would have prevented that massacre.
    Forget it Jake….it’s Africa!

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15. 

    fish

    12 September 2015

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 02:50 PM
    So to hear you guys whine about paying taxes and comparing it to actual life and death is pathetic. You guys should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves.
    Sounds like your brother picked a less than optimal location to indulge in “Adventure Tourism”.
    Did he learn his lesson?

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16. 

    Todd Juvinall

    12 September 2015

    Let’s see. Hmmm. In America the taxes paid are about 21% of the Gross National Product. Tell me Ben Emery, what was your share of that? No lying now. I mean come on now Ben. We are all expected to pay the same aren’t we? So, what does that tax return of yours say? Or under your socialism favorite, are you just the recipient of those who paid?

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17. 

    Walt

    12 September 2015

    But,,but,, how come Ben and bro didn’t pay those taxes for them? Ben expects everyone else to pay someone else’s bills, so why did he?

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18. 

    John

    12 September 2015

    Ben Emery, do you really think you are the only person who has been in dangerous situations in shit hole countries? Can you understand that is why everyone who doesn’t want to live that way is protective of our freedoms? You must have never really seen the bad side of anything Ben or you would have a much different attitude. Your innocent idealism is very revealing about who you really are.

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19. 

    George Rebane

    12 September 2015

    Say that you remodel your kitchen, and don’t put in the regulated number and type of ceiling lights – you instead install the ones you like. The county inspector comes, informs you of your sin, and writes you up. You have so much time to get things remedied according to government dictates. You decide to keep the ceiling lights in your kitchen that please you. The inspector revisits, notices your recalcitrance, and cites you for the code violation.
    Fast forward. The matter of your non-compliance is passed on to county counsel who brings suit against you which you choose neither to contend nor to comply to the subsequent judgment of fines, jail time, confiscation of property, or whatever the judge decides. Your continued refusal brings in the sheriff. You decide this is a hill worth defending and perhaps dying on. You arm yourself and a stand-off with the prompt arrival of the local SWAT team ensues. You wave your ‘assault rifle’ to indicate you are dead serious about defending your kitchen lights.
    Since you will not permit anyone to enter your property, in due course the SWAT sniper puts a bullet through your window and kills you. Within the hour, the sheriff makes a statement of regret that things could not have been settled peaceably, giving all the why and wherefores of his attempts to do so. Bottom line is that they had to kill you since you were armed and judged to be a danger to society.
    When some aspiring reporter at the news conference points out that all you wanted to do was to keep your kitchen lights, which would not have impacted anyone else, and then asks if that was enough of a reason to shoot you, the sheriff and county counsel in attendance advise the reporter in no uncertain terms that you were NOT killed for the out-of-code kitchen lights, but for violating a number of subsequent judgments, legal actions, resisting arrest, brandishing firearms with intent to commit murder and mayhem, etc. The official position is that no one in America is ever killed for bad kitchen lights, they are killed only for resisting that the lights be brought up to code.
    As the news conference ends and the TV cameras and lights get packed, all the progressives in the audience dutifully and knowingly nod, and walk away with a clear understanding that social justice again ruled the day. Some may even make a reasoned statement to that effect to the beautiful blonde with the microphone.

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20. 

    fish

    12 September 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 12 September 2015 at 03:58 PM
    Well done George! Progressive blandishments dismissed in a brief and entertaining five paragraph parable!
    Lets see how its received?

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21. 

    Ben Emery

    12 September 2015

    George,
    Now you are the fucking idiot not Todd. I have a friend who first hand, 10 feet or less away watched his family and like two dozen others have their brains blown out into a pond because they were perceived as non compliant to the ideals of the government. He took off and lived in hiding for two years until he could become a political refugee to a neighboring country. You don’t like refugees either unless it is you of course.
    You are talking about lights in a god damn kitchen. Nearly 2 billion people on the planet don’t have electricity and even more don’t have running water and you are equating having to follow some safety rules to being truly oppressed. If you truly believe these incidents are comparable you really are a sad human being.
    Your inability to view the world outside your pampered spoiled life where following some safety rules seems like oppression is ridiculous and very telling how your worldview can be so callus.

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22. 

    Walt

    12 September 2015

    Reality Ben,, Right here in PV. A guy with a small cabin. Read about that?
    The cops needed to escort the demolition crew in. And the cabin owner got the bill for removal. Your “big GOV” demanded the removal.
    Yes, you are off your meds.
    Now answer why YOU didn’t pay the underprivileged guy’s taxes?
    Seems to me your full of shit. (but makes for a good story)
    And you want to bring that action here???

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23. 

    Jon

    12 September 2015

    Thank You Ben! Always good to call out the closed-minded, provincial, supposed-brains.

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24. 

    Jon

    12 September 2015

    “There are no whiners or victims here Ben Emery.” Todd
    Are you freaking kidding us? Every rant and rave on your cesspool of a blog is a whining, ranting, wild dream that life was different in America. You are THE biggest whiner in Nevada County- Todd Juvinall.

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25. 

    George Rebane

    12 September 2015

    re BenE’s 440pm – Arriving as anticipated and scheduled dear readers, I present you Exhibit A.
    On other matters; in my intro remark to this sandbox I invited comment on the study of EU’s entitlements which included healthcare. The problems that Europe is quietly fighting (in addition to their Muslim invasion) are quite disquieting and should serve as a topic of serious study for those here promoting the same medicine for America. That none of our liberal readers wanted to touch that data speaks volumes to both their understanding of the problem and their values re the US remaining a strong and vibrant sovereign nation-state. So be it.

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26. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 September 2015

    Oh Walt, Brother Ben’s ideas look flawless on paper, but when it comes time to pay up or shut up, he wants “them other dudes” to pay the freight so he can continue pontificating he is fighting for social justice. Gee, Ben, I want a dependable vehicle. Will you buy me one, or is that the other dude’s responsibly?
    Did you notice that the big pushback against Jerry Brown’s Eco Wet Dream. Came from Dem legislatures representing poor people districts. They derailed some provision cause higher gas prices would hurt the little guy the most. Wipe out their cash to spent at The Patch. Ben, you are great at fucking the little guy royally. Crime has skyrocketed because of your struggle to bring fairness. You are a piece of work, my Brother from a Pinko Motha.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/725368740930499/?type=1&theater
    fuck off Ben. You are hurting the poor among us with your social justice. Come on, Ben, pay the freight. Do at least one good thing before you kick the bucket.

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27. 

    Steven Frisch

    12 September 2015

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 04:40 PM
    Right On Ben!

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28. 

    Steven Frisch

    12 September 2015

    Posted by: Jon | 12 September 2015 at 05:12 PM
    And Right On Jon!

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    George Rebane

    12 September 2015

    BenE 440pm and StevenF 648pm – Do either of you really understand the point of my 358pm???? Comparing 2B people’s lack of electricity to the issue of regulation enforcement??!! You both are incapable of staying on track on the simplest of subjects. This is what we’re faced with in the national debate. While it explains so much of what is happening in government, the visible demonstration of your logical threads make any reasonable discussion impossible.

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30. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 September 2015

    Brother Ben. He is singing your song. I bet you can name that tune in two notes.
    https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/michael-moore-american-exceptionalism-death-us-075934595.html
    How is this for social justice. You broke in to my country and, sorry, you cannot have the keys to the house.
    http://news.yahoo.com/big-jump-number-immigrants-losing-health-law-coverage-060359916.html
    Ben, you are the kind of soft hearted and soft headed guy that would literally give someone the shirt off my back.

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31. 

    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 12 September 2015 at 08:11 PM
    Of course I understand the point of your 3:58pm. I think the point is that you are so confused about the meaning of freedom and the protections our Constitution provides that you equate the freedom to decide what light fixture to use in your kitchen with speech, assembly, petition, religion and due process. You are so confused about ‘rights’ that when American society through due process determines to do anything you disagree with or empower anyone you believe does not deserve the equal protection you enjoy you dress up in a funny tricorn hat and grab your gun and bible and head to the local rally to play out the fantasy that you are an ‘real’ American.

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32. 

    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 13 September 2015 at 03:03 AM
    Oh, and just so Greg does not think I am on another late night bender, I am on the east coast and it is 6:03 am where I am so I am really just an early riser not a drunk late night poster. I know how he can get on ‘inference’ patrol when anything is out of the ordinary 🙂

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33. 

    fish

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 12 September 2015 at 04:40 PM
    You are talking about lights in a god damn kitchen. Nearly 2 billion people on the planet don’t have electricity and even more don’t have running water and you are equating having to follow some safety rules to being truly oppressed. If you truly believe these incidents are comparable you really are a sad human being.
    You operate at the intellectual level of a premenstrual teenaged girl.
    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 13 September 2015 at 03:06 AM
    I guess I can see why a man who tosses out Haldol references so casually would want to assure the audience that he himself wasn’t over indulging in a preferred “recreational activity”. I’m sure that if you can refrain from disjointed over emotional outbursts like Bens 4:40p your state of sobriety won’t be questioned.
    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 13 September 2015 at 03:03 AM
    Now it’s funny that you dismiss Georges 3:58 chain of causality so cavalierly especially since “commercial speech” was thought to have been nearly equal in importance to political speech (and I assume ….assembly, petition, religion and due process) in revolutionary times. Ben Franklin certainly thought this to be the case. The ability to purchase and ultimately use a legal product would have been considered an exercise of that right. That the local bureaucracy would have deemed them “not to code” (I do concede you part of the argument if “not to code” results from legitimate safety concerns. Since that point was not explicitly made I choose to think Georges argument was from an environmental/energy consumption regulatory perspective) on a whim would have been a violation of the homeowners rights…..right up to and including the point where he took one in the head.

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    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: fish | 13 September 2015 at 05:36 AM
    “You operate at the intellectual level of a premenstrual teenaged girl.”
    Actually I think Ben nailed it. George’s example was a classic example of head up the ass syndrome on the Constitution. You do not have a ‘constitutional right’ to incandescent lightbulbs, you have a constitutional right to due process.
    “I guess I can see why a man who tosses out Haldol references so casually would want to assure the audience that he himself wasn’t over indulging in a preferred “recreational activity”.
    “…I am really just an early riser…”
    Of course if Greg and Todd were not constantly judging other people personal habits like hypocritical preachers such a disclaimer would not be necessary.
    Finally, I guess in your society we could all just decide what is a ‘homeowners right’ and where your rights infringe on others rights can be decided by who takes one in the head. We live in a society….we make laws together…we live by those laws….that is what our Constitution in its true interpretation giants….it is a compact that guides us in creating societal order while preserving individual rights…and as always your beef is that sometimes what you (and George) think is important loses.

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35. 

    fish

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 13 September 2015 at 05:59 AM
    Actually I think Ben nailed it.
    No Ben didn’t nail it….Ben did what Ben does……goes on overwrought overemotional moral preening tantrums. If you find his “episodes” helpful or enlightening you have my sympathy.
    Of course if Greg and Todd were not constantly judging other people personal habits like hypocritical preachers such a disclaimer would not be necessary.
    Again I find your selectivity of offense at who “judges” endlessly entertaining. Did I mention that “the internet is changing how we communicate”?
    We live in a society….we make laws together…we live by those laws….that is what our Constitution in its true interpretation giants….it is a compact that guides us in creating societal order while preserving individual rights…and as always your beef is that sometimes what you (and George) think is important loses.
    Never miss an opportunity to spike the football when a legitimate topic for discussion is presented huh Steve?

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 September 2015

    Well, well, well. Mean ole universities make young fresh faced students ace the SATs before being considered for admission. Here is a great idea. Drop the SATs and increase the student body’s rich cultural diversity. No wonder some think life owes them admission based on factors other than academic excellence. Our schools win too.
    http://news.yahoo.com/nobel-laureate-required-sats-194834463.html

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    Bill Tozer

    13 September 2015

    Hey Steve, I bought a 4 pack of those Dairy Queen ice cream coned shaped light bulbs (at the most expensive grocery store around) for $1.99. Bought 3 of them 4-Packs. Kinda neat with their heads sticking above my hanging fixtures and sure make their presence known poking out of the sconces. Also, I painted another guest bedroom and love the color. Then I placed them swirly bulbs in the chandeliers and it changed the color of the walls. Now I am not so sure I like the soft paint color I was recently so proud of. Whatever happened to softness? What happened to my cool color scheme??
    Steve ain’t lazy. Don’t see him as a drunkard either. Maybe his twin, but not Steve. Hard working and promoting stuff takes a lot of energy. I deal with products and services that sell themselves and I frankly can’t keep up. Connecting people with things that are important to them is my current vocation. Drawbavk is they are beating down the doors and I am slowing down. Glad I don’t have to fly to DC to beg or fly to NYC to meet Jon’s parents. I don’t need that kind of stress, but that is just me.
    Partaking in an adult beverage or 3 and letting one’s hair down is not a bad thing in and of itself. Liquor is a good social lubricant. Feeling of ease, relaxation, and being 9 foot tall. Nay, Steve isn’t the rusty zipper type. Maybe his associates are, but Steve exercises some self control.
    Now, about the hues of those ice cream cone bulbs. Softness is needed. Wonder how low the price will drop. Who knows, seems some stores can’t give them away as that rack of 4 Packs sale items ain’t moving very fast.

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38. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 September 2015

    Now, let’s change gears. Why would a Somali want to travel to Syria?? Thought folks were leaving Syria.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/twin-cities-isis-problem-120000050.html

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    George Rebane

    13 September 2015

    StevenF 303am – Spoken like a true progressive elitist and self-appointed judge of “real Americans”. I’m afraid that even Alan Greenspan would assess your claim to have understood my 358pm to be delusional. These pages contain eight years of evidence that you and yours just don’t seem to be able to connect the dots. In your case it must be getting to desperation time since your alternatives seem reduced again to accusing me (and others like me?) of not measuring up to your standard of what is an American. I don’t think that’s where you want to go.
    BenE 440pm – “Your inability to view the world outside your pampered spoiled life where following some safety rules seems like oppression is ridiculous and very telling how your worldview can be so callus.” Ben you can be forgiven because you do not know about what or to whom you are talking.

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40. 

    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    Seriously George, if that is the hill you want to die on be my guest.
    Freedom ain’t about kitchen fixtures. Now you’re just sounding silly.

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 September 2015

    Freedom is about kitchen fixtures. The government Steve Frisch loves is one that tells you what and how you live down to that kitchen fixture. And of course they do.
    Look at the results of the Angora Fire a few years ago. All those houses burned down not because the people living in them did not have a “kitchen fixture” mandated by the government. They burned because Frisch’s policies forbade them from removing pine needles around their house. Thanks Frisch. Anyway, I knew right after the fire the government would hold “conferences” on the causes and all those self important agencies would get together and BLAME not their policies, but the people living there. And it was to pass.
    So out of the mess created by TRPA and the ARB and even Fire Districts, the government decided to double down on the rebuilds and future builds in California. All siding and roofs fireproof, all houses to have sprinklers. All house to have soffits. All light bulbs and fixtures to burn mercury filled bulbs. On and on.
    So yes the “kitchen fixture” is the issue. Maybe a fat cat like Frisch can afford all those “rules” the government makes to deny individual’s their Constitutional rights, but the poor and elderly can’t. Look at all the homeless men and women Steve Frisch has created in just our little Nevada County. I say we name the next homeless camp after him.

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42. 

    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 September 2015 at 02:11 PM
    This retort just shows how utterly full of crap you are when attempt to project my ‘policies’. I have done more to support forest thinning in the Sierra than you ever did as a Supervisor or as a ‘civilian.’ You are also all wet on TRPA ‘policy.’ Their policy never restricted removing pine needles or thinning around homes. It is a complete lie on your part.
    But really, if you want to die on the hill protecting your right to wire your kitchen with sub-standard wiring be my guest. I’ll be the first to say, “Of course I could see Todd or George getting into an armed standoff over their blender.”

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43. 

    George Rebane

    13 September 2015

    StevenF 339pm – “right to wire your kitchen with sub-standard wiring”, “an armed standoff over their blender” – wherever do you get this crap? And do you ever tire of conducting both sides of a conversation you weave out of whole cloth??
    But would sure like to hear some cogent response from the Left to the point of my 358pm that expanded on my 200pm. Is there any progressive who even understands what Greenspan wrote “At the bottom of the endless pile of paper work which characterizes all regulation lies a gun …”, or is the only possible response just an endless pile of progressive pap??

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44. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 September 2015

    Steve Frisch 3:39 PM
    Of course you think you have done something to help the forest. Your halp is burning them to the ground. My, if you were not real we would have to make you up.
    Since you only moved to the County after I was off the BOS, tell us how you know anything I did? Oh, as usual, you libnuts just make it up. What a hoot.
    Regrading electrical fixtures. The readers can see how dumb you are about construction. We are discussing the “fixtures” and not the wiring to get to the fixture. You don’t know the difference and that explains why you BKed your restaurant and owed a quarter million to the government. Dumb as a box of chocolates.
    Go Giants!

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45. 

    Steven Frisch

    13 September 2015

    I moved to the County while you were on the Board of Supervisors and remember thinking at the time, “who is this idiot.” You have done nothing since then to change my initial opinion. But you do just talk right of your ass don;t you? You just say stuff without any idea whatsoever whether it is accurate or not.

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46. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 September 2015

    Steve Frisch 5:43 PM
    Yes, I do talk talk a lot and that is because unlike you, iI have something to say. Having been elected twice I was honored to serve the people of the County. While you were not paying your taxes withheld from your employees, liened by local, state and federal government agencies, I was getting roads built and paved, buildings built and may other endeavors. When you grow up and can discuss things with grownups like me, please do. It is well known throughout the County and especially in Truckee that you are disliked immensely and ridiculed by the important folks there.

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47. 

    Walt

    13 September 2015

    An ECO bastard who is pro tree cutting in a forest? I call bullshit. “removing of pine needles”.. Oh yaaaa.. That’s going to cut the fire danger down.
    The shit storm that hit Tahoe when those folks wanted to thin trees around the lake. The ECO bastards went blind with rage. ” WE are going to SUE!!!” ( and the taxpayer foots the bill. No money out of the ECO bastards pockets)
    How bout that supposed cogen plant that was to be built in the aria? Not a peep on that.More ECO bastard NIMBYism?
    And with every salvage logging op some ECO loon ORG files a lawsuit to hold up the works.
    Count on the same with these fires.

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    Bill Tozer

    13 September 2015

    Yo Walt. New Hampshire Shocker! Trump pulls 40% in NH’s open primary poLl, highest rating ever. The sky is falling, call the whambulance.
    Oh my, where did Brother Ben’s Traveling Salvation Show go off to? What, long time no come see?
    Typical. Stomps his feet, crosses his arms real tight, calls us poopy heads and slams the door behind him. I can see why Ben says he does not like the person he becomes after kicking sand in The Sandbox.
    I am so sorry Ben. I knew the playing Cowboys and Muslim thang would get your ire to unhealthy levels. That was mean. A special message just for you and you walked right into it. Took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Kind of funny seeing your justifiable anger (from your POV) rise up and overtake ya. Me bad. But I know you will forgive me because that is the compassionate thang to do and because you are one big huggable sap.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1442202164./726418787492161/?type=3&theater
    Hey, you didn’t even say good-bye this time.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1442202164./726418787492161/?type=3&theater

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 September 2015

    Same for the Truckee tax evader. Stomp their feet, call us poopy heads and go hide under their rocks. BillT, you are priceless!

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    Jon

    13 September 2015

    Trump’s polling continues to says a lot about the incredibly narrow base of the GOP.
    And not much about the majority of America.

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