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'What happens in the Middle East doesn’t stay in the Middle East.'  WSJ

George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary aired on 2 September 2015.]

Here’s a 50,000 foot view of the great cultural divides that will focus our attention in America and also in the European Union.  The EU’s promise of a unified Europe free of wars is under great strain both economically and culturally.  It turns out that Angela Merkel’s conclusion that “Multi-kulti does not work” is true, not only in Germany, but all over the continent.  And nothing has caused the Europeans to raise their ire more than the increasing flood of Muslims into their cities and countries.

The diaspora from the failed Islamic states that ring Europe on its south is turning into a life altering invasion of people who share few values with the Europeans beyond the desire to escape death and destruction.  These illegal aliens who are daily scampering onto the shores of southern Europe are called ‘migrants’ which is their word for our politically correct ‘undocumented immigrants’.  The European countries of entry don’t want the Muslims to stay, so the ‘immigrant’ word is out.  But they do want them to migrate north to the richer regions of the continent, so ‘migrant’ is an accepted politically neutral label for the desperate aliens who are quickly ushered northward by countries like Greece, Italy, and Spain.

Muslims have been emigrating to Europe for decades, and have made themselves conspicuous to the indigenous Europeans by their refusal to assimilate and their understandable desire to live in their own culturally cohesive communities.  In many countries these enclaves are now functionally sovereign in that they follow their own laws, maintain their own traditions, and forcefully reject any encroachment by the institutions of their targeted host nations.

We in America were once taught to abide all cultures which in our public forums subsumed themselves into the overarching ‘American culture’ – practice your own cultures when you are among yourselves, but become an obvious American when you gather in the town square with fellow Americans.  This is no longer taught to our young.  Today our schools celebrate America’s constituent cultures to the point where a common American culture has been banished and replaced by reference to a yet nebulous global culture.


The world is and has always been a dangerous and uncertain place.  Cultures arose millennia ago as people of like mind joined together to defend themselves and contend with groups who sought what they had.  Most people understand that a culture is defined by commonly held attributes of language, ethnicity, religion, governance, economics, traditions, mores, and values.  The stronger cultures hold more of these attributes in common.  For security and economic purposes the main benefit of a common culture is the people’s ability to know and reliably predict each other’s behavior.  Living in a culturally cohesive community you don’t have to constantly watch your back, you know the behavioral norms practiced by your neighbor as well as the man-on-the-street.  As an unmistakable member of that culture, you can devote more of your attention and energies to better your and your family’s life.

Strangers in strange lands have always sought out people like themselves to band together and establish a familiar and secure place in which to live and work.  The trouble usually starts when widely variant cultures must share the same space and resources.   Sharing is hard, and sharing with people who are not like you is almost impossible.  This truth gave rise to kingdoms and countries which have survived the rise and fall of empires.  Today we see cultures clashing once more on a prosperous continent that has attempted to organize itself into an economically unified landmass of already culturally distinct countries into which hundreds of thousands of very different and uninvited people arrive yearly.  This has always spelled trouble, and promises to do so again.

In the United States we are dismantling the great cultural assimilation engine.  We are again told by political elites to view ourselves first as members of culturally neutral classes rather than as Americans with an overarching culture.  Instead we are divided into the rich, the poor, the privileged, the persecuted, the Anglos, the Blacks, the Hispanics, the whatever as long as such lines of separation and growing contention can be maintained for later reassembly under a new world order.  And this new world order will then be sought at any cost as relief in the time of troubles that lie ahead.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  Collectivists of all stripes, and especially global collectivists, seek the triumph of their ideology through class warfare.  As recounted above, class attributes reach across all cultural boundaries.  All cultures have their rich and poor and privileged and underprivileged.  Even ethnically labeled yet culturally distinct groups such as Hispanics can be relegated to a class for purposes of political cohesion and marshalling.  The main weapon of collectivists is a class-based view of society wherein the disaffected from all cultures can join to fight for ‘equality’ and ‘social justice’.

When such people can be convinced that their greater benefit will come from a successful class struggle rather than hewing to their cultural assets, then they can be convinced to join in the fight for forms of governance that are ‘democratic’ and redistributive.  This strategy was implemented as early as the waning days of the monarchy in 18th century France, and formalized within a global perspective by Marx and Engels in the mid-19th century.  And even after some massive failures during the 20th century, some of which are ongoing, the collectivist dream in the west is alive and well, seeking once and for all to put the Westphalian world order behind us and achieve a global governance – a just and sustainable social order of true equality, peace, and plenty for all who submit their individuality to the correct and approved Homogeneous Man. (see also Agenda 21)

In this American election season we have strong voices from the Left now unabashedly calling for a more direct route to such a future.  They range from socialist candidates like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton to national voices like that of Amy Goodman calling for people to see themselves first as members of the underdog class from whom the rich and privileged have stolen their means to obtain both succor and security.  No matter their cultures of origin, they are exhorted to join the proudly gruberized who need know only that their salvation lies in the collective able to put in place a government willing and strong enough to claw back from the rich everything that was meant to be theirs.

In 1951 socialist and social activist Upton Sinclair wrote “The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label.”  While that has been true in the intervening years, it is no longer true as the proud pronouncements of today’s Democrat candidates attest.  America’s programs of wealth redistribution have gone beyond the tipping point in their breadth and depth, and that means that the Peter-Paul Principle is now fully in force across the land.  ‘Whenever you promise to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on the full support of Paul.’  Our Founders (and early foreign visitors) warned us about what will happen when the Pauls gain majority.  For confirmation, just look around you (and in your own mailbox).

[7sep15 update]  Germany is now beseeching other EU countries to help her welcome mid-east migrants.  Merkel is currently allowing about 800,000 new Muslims annually into Germany, and she knows this is a life-changing policy for Germans and unsustainable.  Many other EU leaders are way ahead of her and already have concluded that they don't want their countries fundamentally transformed by Islam's most successful foray into Europe to date.  The Europeans will now have their Muslims to deal with in a manner similar to our having to deal with 11M+ illegal Hispanics.

However, there appears to be a mitigating solution for Europe.  I first posted on it in the comment stream below where it seems to have garnered a big yawn from the RR readership.  I believe it deserves better, so I have elevated it into this update in order to have it more prominently displayed when someone searches RR for topics dealing with culture or the Muslims' northward migration.

Has anyone wondered why no one in the media – including Fox News – points out that the Muslim 'migrants' now flooding into Europe overwhelmingly come from Turkey where there is no threat to their life and limb?  Upon arrival in Europe, their claim to be escaping death and destruction is clearly risible, since they are then simply looking for a better economic environment in which to set up shop.

Why has no one suggested that the EU countries, and even the US, provide Turkey the aid needed to care for the Syrian refugees where they already are – in short, replicate what we are doing to help Jordan care for the Syrian refugees lodged on their soil?  The added benefit there is that the distance back home is short when the hostilities end and it is safe to return.  Whatever the policy outcome affecting this mass migration, how come our vaunted journalists are too dense to even bring up this (to me) obvious solution?  (I don't ask the same of the politicians, for they really do have the required density.)

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203 responses to “The Great Cultural Divides of 2016 (updated 7sep15)”

  1. Walt Avatar

    Read it and choke.
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94031000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-stuck-38-year
    Yet unemployment is 5% and change? Common Core math at work.
    But lets open the boarders and let even more in to compete for the few jobs there are,
    and at the same time dilute our own culture even more.

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  2. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    “What I would like to hear from the ‘jons’ of the world is how they can advocate for open boarders when we have over 94,000,000 American workers out of the job market?” Bessee
    Who on here is advocating for Open Borders, per Don’s inquiry? Not me.
    JoeK, Paul, Ben, Steve, George B? Please chime as needed. Someone must be advocating for this- Don must have heard it somewhere…

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    GeorgeB, I would suggest there is no “white man’s burden” here. Actually it is your ilk of white liberals guilt.

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  4. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    BTW, there are not 94 Million American workers out of work. Lets stop that nonsense, k?

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  5. Psaul Emery Avatar
    Psaul Emery

    Yeah Jon Manifest Destiny
    It’s interesting how George equates the genocide of Native American populations due to Manifest Destiny with the destruction of the Estonian culture and population by Germany’s Teutonic Knights. That puts our American Conquistadors that destroyed the native populations in their thirst for land and power in interesting perspective. Might makes right. Now he wants them to be good injuns or stay on the reservation if they don’t behave because they have no right to be on their tradition lands because they are a defeated culture.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The latest Obama numbers show 94 million out of the labor force.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 September 2015 at 11:13 AM
    Who on here is advocating for Open Borders, per Don’s inquiry? Not me.

    Well I seem to remember the august presence of Stephen Frisch lamenting the incredibly insignificant pushback during “2014 Childrens Crusade” that America “used to be a nation that could get things done”

    “Now for some lean red meat for Stevie. Seems the Bundy supporters have ICE in their sites. Just this time it’s the buses full of illegals about to be set loose on our streets.
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Immigrants-Headed-to-Murrieta-Despite-Opposition-265381911.html
    The citizens just won’t stand for it. Is this more vigilantism Steve?
    Those buses should be greeted with open arms…. Right?”
    Posted by: Walt | 01 July 2014 at 04:30 PM
    Now lets see if I have this right, it is cool to do this with children? Some set of values you all have.
    That is not the American values I know and love.
    Why don’t you guys target your legislators and demand that they reform the immigration system? Oh, I know why not, because it would mean you might have to compromise something to reach an agreement, which is why you Yahoos torpedoed the Bush II immigration reform initiative.
    Once we had a Republic that knew how to get things done. Now we have a frozen Republic that shirks its responsibilities.
    It all comes down to one thing, you are not Patriots you are anti-Americans.
    George, why do I consider this forum comedy? Because it is a continuos chant of “Get off my grass.” The dustbin of history will welcome you with open arms.
    Posted by: stevenfrisch | 02 July 2014 at 07:57 AM

    Sign an agreement…..give me what I want…..more social service consumers, more democrat lever pullers!
    Really jon nobody ever comes directly out and yells “OPEN THE BORDERS” they hint around the the edges so as to not spook the rabble and end the discussion.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    HERE os a link to the latest labor numbers. I always knew “jon’s” head is placed firmly in the ostrich hole.
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/record-high-americans-not-in-labor-force-exceed-94-million-for-first-time/

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 September 2015 at 11:17 AM
    BTW, there are not 94 Million American workers out of work. Lets stop that nonsense, k?

    From that noted REICH WING source of information…the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t01.htm
    Here ya go…….k!

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yes the ‘jon’ lets stop the nonsense policies that have put us in this untenable situation. Worst numbers by percentage since Carter and the greatest number out of the work force ever 94,031,000 says the bureau of labor statistics. We have long seen the trolls scurry from those pesky facts. Its not ok to be such a sniveling lick spittle for these failed socialist policies the ‘jon’. k? LOL

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  11. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    There are not 94 million people looking for work. Your spin is comical.
    Many people have retired early due to their business or financial success..or they choose to work PT or on temporary contracts…or they are disabled.
    To imply 94 million people are actively seeking FT work is utterly ignorant.

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  12. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    BTW Todd, Free Beacon? LOL. Its up there with WND and NewsMax.
    cue the space music…

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 September 2015 at 11:43 AM
    Well jon how many people are not in the labor force who would like to work full time? Please?

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  14. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    don’t know fish. I know its not 1/3 of the American population. Anyone with a brain can figure that out.

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 September 2015 at 11:48 AM
    You don’t seem to be able to figure it out. Economists are saying that this number is more indicative of the real state of the labor market than the unemployment rate.
    But tell us why you think all is well.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    “jon” is obviously pulling our leg. He knows the number by the Feds is correct. What do wanna bet he agrees with the unemployment rate? The troll is to ignorant to engage.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    I guess I need to repeat myself, since a few have the attention span of insects.
    The way of life for American Eskimos is still under attack by a tribe of Lefty decent.
    They don’t like the Eskimos hunting whales, and still try and stop the hunts.
    The same group of ECO do gooders are giving Japan a hard time for dolphin harvests.
    Yup,, screw with that culture too. ” WE don’t like it!!”
    And speaking of the American Indian, it’s the LIB bureaucrats that demand they get permits to practice their religion. One in a while the Indians kill an Eagle for ceremonial reasons. But the need to beg to the Great White Father to do so. Maybe they should wait by a windmill and in no time one will drop in their lap. ( Wind turbines are exempt)

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  18. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Todd, are you dense? No statistic shows 94 million people actively looking for FT work. None. If you don’t understand the statistic, all I can say is that you should attended a school of higher education when you had the chance.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    And the Free Beacon is just one source there “jon” (they just reported the fed numbers anyway) Pick your own and it will read the same. I bet you believe in “climate change” too, right?

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Jon | 04 September 2015 at 11:59 AM
    Higher education? It appears you did not make it out of 8th grade there “jon”. I am truly much smarter than you (and better looking according to the TSA) and you are simply embarrassed and lash out. Your ignorance is palpable.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    “j” is a TROLL, and you guys are taking the bait. Ignore his/it happy a**.
    It will never supply a fact to support the claim. Facts are not in it’s culture.

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Bureau of Labor Statistics counts the nations non-institutional population, all people 16 or older who were not in the military or an institution. In May the hard numbers were 247,622,000 with a 62.8% participation rate meant 155,613,000 were in the work force. So what would that make the number of people not participating back in may class? The previous record established in July was 93,626,000 said BLS. Now we are 94,031,000 another record for 0. Lets see how many months left in his term equals how many more record months class? The ‘jon’ GO to the Deans office and piss in a cup. If you pass then report to the mental health office, delusionals dept. When and if cleared back to remedial math with you.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1124am – You again misread my 746pm (as you did my 1103am) that nowhere claimed either Manifest Destiny or that Estonian culture was destroyed by the German invasion in the 1200s. When you fashion your arguments from fictitious whole cloth, it’s really hard to converse let alone debate with you. Your counterpart must always first go through the laborious process of correcting your reading errors, then attempt to fathom how these connected to their previous comment, and finally present a counter argument that admittedly may not address what you either understood and/or meant.
    But yes, since rights are granted and guaranteed by the governing jurisdiction, American Indians should have no right to behave counter to the ascendant culture when they are off the reservation; most certainly not be free to wantonly practice some of the more draconian parts of their own pre-conquest culture. Might may not make right, but might does make and enforce rights.
    The Ests (the Estonian tribes) controlled a vast landmass before the 13th century arrival of the Germans that include today’s Latvia and penetrated deeply into what today is Russia. More recently, before WW2, Finland encompassed Karelia which is about a third again of today’s Finland. The USSR simply took Karelia away from the Finns after the war. Do today’s Estonians and Finns have any ‘rights’ to their lost territories?

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  24. Walt Avatar

    See Dr. ? When the holier then thou get confronted with their own side’s “messes with culture”, is brought to front and center, utter silence. And these examples are in the here and now. Not back in the bronze and early iron age, where Paul and Ben like to go.

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  25. Walt Avatar

    Crap.. “than”…not “then”….. The spell’n police will surely pay me a visit.

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  26. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Walt, they could literally visit on every post if they saw fit. Buts its beyond comical and hopeless.

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    POW- CCC by the ignorant.

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  28. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Don, my sister is one example of tens of millions included in the 94 million. She retired early with her partner, did well in Real Estate and job, and does not have to work. You going to force her back to work? LOL. She lived the American Dream and was the perfect example of success.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jon | 04 September 2015 at 01:05 PM
    Buts its beyond comical and hopeless.

    So says the …..um……err…..individual who forgot his apostrophe.
    Your inner “Keachie” is showing again!

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  30. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    thanks fish. Love Mr. Keachie, but paleez. I’m several steps removed from Kesti.

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  31. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Don, your buddy Todd is included in the 94 million. Whats his excuse?’
    (fish, note the apostrophe 🙂

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  32. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    LOL. In the words of Ricky Perry- OOPS. Sent it before the punctuation was there. 2 grammatical screw-ups in a row!
    Speaking of the indicted Governor of Texas- Mr.Perry- he very astutely pointed out yesterday that a stopped clock is right once a day! Rick Perry for Pres!

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  33. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Aw gee shuck an anecdote for the ‘jon’ to evade the facts so forcefully denied. The numbers speak for themselves. Don’t bother going to the disabled numbers they do not help your narrative as they have been falling. The gross disabled ss # includes kids. Oh gee he scurried off to the sand box to drop some troll poop. Retired( including early) are not part of the 94 millions so Todd is not included in that number braniac. lol

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Don’t engage the “jon” troll.

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  35. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    Don, with all due respect, you don’t know what you are talking about in regard to 94 million. I implore you to use your brain and understand the statistics here. Politifact lays it out for you nicely here. It includes 16/17 year olds, college kids, and retirees. Glad to help you out. But common sense goes a long way as well.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/30/blog-posting/are-90-million-americans-not-working-or-looking-wo/

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    You write:
    “But yes, since rights are granted and guaranteed by the governing jurisdiction, American Indians should have no right to behave counter to the ascendant culture when they are off the reservation”
    You are off the reservation on this one. I contend that there are human rights that trump (small case) granted rights issued by the conquering state-gang or heard of Germanic Knights.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    “Donald Trump is an out-of-control car driving through a crowd of Republicans, and somebody needs to get him out of the car,” Graham said. “I just don’t see a pathway forward for us in 2016 to win the White House if we don’t decisively deal with this.”
    Walt, its over. OVER for your wild man. Way too much money at stake from big, big, bit Republican donors.
    Posted by: Jon | 09 August 2015 at 09:06 AM
    and
    Walt, Hillary will DESTROY Trump in a debate because she will draw out his nastiness and dislike of women. She would win 80% of the female vote in the General. Would enter a new dimension in the Gender Gap problem for Republicans. Every national poll shows her mopping up with Trump.
    So all I can say is, Run Donald Run. Win Donald Win, the Repub Primary. Please!
    Posted by: Jon | 07 August 2015 at 10:50 PM

    Found a couple flirting with it. But it seems that you didn’t make the claim!
    Retracted!

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 413pm – You may contend all you want about ‘human rights’ trumping granted rights. For almost eight years I have made clear that the only rights that are important to people and that I care to argue are the operational rights granted AND enforced by sovereign jurisdictions. If you insist on exercising some human right that is not a granted right, be prepared to be thrown into the slammer or worse.
    Now ‘human rights’, which are culture dependent, may form the basis for argument or even revolt in that they should also be included in granted rights, but that is another discussion having little to do with what granted rights should and will be enforced when our conquered Indians wander off their reservation. (BTW, I believe granting them semi-sovereign reservations was the worst thing we could have done to the survivors of white man’s conquest. Choosing to live on the res instead of joining into the advanced civilization that conquered them was probably the worst decision that individual Indians subsequently made. But it does attest to the power of culture, as I have argued.)
    One more time – I have made clear the operational definition of rights and privileges multiple times. Enjoy, and let’s continue this when you’re willing to talk about actual US, not blue sky, rights.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/03/rights-and-privileges.html

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Fish (via Jon) @ 4:16pm. Trump loves women. The difference between Hillary and The Donald is The Donald has been in love. He knows how to speak to women’s hearts, fears, wants, concerns, and needs. Hillary knows how to calculate words for personal gain only. Women believe The Donald says what he means, means exactly what he says, and will never lie to them nor abandon them. He is their rent-a-husband. He says “the bullshit stops now.” Hillary lies about everything and women know the bullshit starts with her and will not end as long as she is sucking up their air, waiting for the other shoe to drop.
    Jon, please name just one notable achievement Rodclam has done as a U.S. Senator or during her stellar stint as our top diplomat. Just one great achievement, please.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I will be happy to rely on the BLS and SS Admins numbers. k?

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Bill.. There are one or two here that would vote for that guy.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Black voters matter. Culture divide? Yes, indeed. We have more in common with Black Americans than the largest ethnic group in CA., ie., Americans.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-doesnt-need-latino-voters-to-win-the-nomination/2015/09/04/9fd2e40c-524f-11e5-933e-7d06c647a395_story.html

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  43. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    “Women believe The Donald says what he means, means exactly what he says, and will never lie to them nor abandon them.”
    LOL x 10. Perhaps you can consult with Ivana for a second opinion! Ah, funny stuff for Friday night before turning in.

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  44. Jon Avatar
    Jon

    “I will be happy to rely on the BLS and SS Admins numbers. k?” So says Bessee
    Great Don. OK, then you should tell all those tens of millions HS kids, college kids and retirees in the 94 million- to get a damn FT job!
    Man the bread lines are 4 blocks long! LOL.

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Latest nationwide poll has Trump beating Hillary, Gore, Biden, Sanders. Read it and weep you libnuts.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252825-poll-trump-beats-hillary-head-to-head

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What an idiot. There are no retirees or totally disabled people on the list. By definition if you are retired you are not in the job market dunce. Employed people according to the gov can be working as little as 15 hours which is what is propping up the low unemployment rate, the real rate of unemployment is in the 10% zone. This also accounts for any high school or collage kids working part time as being employed. The whole point is we have over 94 million out of the job market and that means no room at the table for millions of uneducated unskilled flooding the boarder. You know the rule of law. Perhaps you would like to come to south sac or rancho and tell the moms there why some guy from wherever gets more help from the gov than her kids or why in this economic condition we can cut the pie into so many smaller pieces? 75% of Californians reject the notion of sanctuary cities as do 65% of CA Latinos.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah Jon
    Todd would have made my Grandmother go back to Greece because she wouldn’t learn English and in his lights my mother would not have been a US citizen. She was born eight years after my Grandparents entered this country.

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