225 responses to “Sandbox – 30aug15”

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   Bill Tozer

   31 August 2015

   Forgive them for they know not what they do.

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   Todd Juvinall

   31 August 2015

   Oh BillT, I know I am a harsh SOB when it comes to drug dealers. But hey that’s me! LOL! With a Obama inside.
   Our country is so PC and the courts so wimpass that I fear we will be overrun by felons. Even locally, the dude that conked Ms. Tassone is being sent to Hospital Heaven for a diagnosis. Three squares, pretty nurse, roof over his head. And Ms. Tassone fighting to regain her life. But the Judge was convinced by some public defender to send him for evaluation. I say both should resign! We need hanging judges!
   You see I am such a hard ass that even someone diagnosed as mentally ill and who committs a crime is EVEN MORE important to lock them up. My sympathies go to Ms. Tassone, not the reprobate attacker!
   And again, if you are drug dealer, death by firing squad after a quick trial and only one appeal. Adios scumbags pushing death.

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   Steven Frisch

   31 August 2015

   Posted by: fish | 31 August 2015 at 02:30 PM
   Actually, let me be the first here to denounce the New Black Panther Party for protesting in this way. Since some appear to be unsupportive of the NBPP doing so I am sure they will step forward now and denounce similar behavior at Bundy ranch and speak out against carrying loaded AR-15’s into Walmart just because it is their ‘right’.

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   Jon

   31 August 2015

   “Our country is so PC and the courts so wimpass that I fear we will be overrun by felons.” Todd
   Well we already know that FEAR drives everything about you, Todd which explains your odd interpretation of reality. The situation is quite the opposite. Where do you see data that indicates a potential to be overrun by felons? Sounds like you’re talking about NYC circa 1971 or something.
   No nation one earth comes remotely close to the number people we imprison. Its why even Repubs are joining the movement to LESSEN the lockup rate.

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   Bill Tozer

   31 August 2015

   Never happen Steve, you clock puncher you. Some of us believe that the ATF (bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms) should be a convience store, not a federal agency. I am one of those misfits. So, put that in your peace pipe and smoke it.
   Seriously, I will toss you a bone. After some facts appeared, Bundy really was not the right person to rally the troops around. He did not have a legal leg to stand on, but who would ever give you government types the pleasure of hearing that from us local yokels. No way, Jose. Bundy was the wrong poster child IMHO. They (the Feds) should have shot his horse out from under him and turned the horse into a martyr. No one hurt except both party’s overblown pride.
   BTW, just cause nobody races to denounce certain events under the sun (Black Panters, cop killings, a bad cop killiing someone in an unjustified manner, flash mobs, the entire Dem Party, etc, etc) does not mean any of us don’t condemn certain actions within our own hearts and minds. Many a link has been posted with no follow up comments. I, for one, have shaken my head instead of posting outrage on several occasions.
   Well, except when it hits close to home and when your Government….er…our Government sends emergency drinking water in oil contaminated barrels to people of color dwelling peacefully among the First Nations. That really gets me contemplating putting the war paint on and do the Fire Dance with a double War Dance encore. Since our government recently did such an outrageous despicable act of ill will on purpose, I have sharpened the old tomahawk and snapped the peace pipe in two across my knee, paleface. Injun killer. Liar.
   Oh, BTW, I would feel uncomfortable walking in any Wal-Mart unarmed. Have you seen what kind of White Trash frequents that place. One would have to be crazy to walk in there without an old peacemaker, a concealed Equalizer, or a nice sharpened tomahawk. Chop chop.chop, chop. Plus, one could always sell their arms to the Contras to make alittle untaxed side money. We may be crazy, but not stupid…like The EPA and the ATF, which is both.

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   Joe Koyote

   31 August 2015

   George 11:45 —
   ” Since you and yours have ruled California for decades” I guess the reality of that statement would depend on how you define “rule”. Looking a list of Ca governors one discovers that prior to Jerry Brown’s current term and going back to and including Pat Brown, we had 32 years of Republicans in office and 25 years of Democrats (16 the Browns and 5 Davis.) Prior to that, going back to the turn of the 20th century there were 11 Republican and 1 Democratic governors. For the last 115 years, Democrats have only occupied the governor’s mansion for 26 years including Jerry Brown’s current stint.

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   Todd Juvinall

   31 August 2015

   I think it is the Legislature he is talking about. Having worked there in 1996 for Bernie Richter It was the only year the Assembly was run by R’s for 40 years or so.
   But I do not let R Govs off the hook. There was a necessary signature on many laws and many of them have and are smothering the middle class.

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   Todd Juvinall

   31 August 2015

   Jon | 31 August 2015 at 05:33 PM
   I am run by fear? Sorry “Jon” not so. I said what is wrong with the system and choose to namecall and denigrate. You are simply unimportant here and do your best to be relevant but can’t.
   I am talking about California’s realignment as well as the results of Prop 47. Crime is up. Maybe you should drive down to East LA or Oakland and take a walk “jon”.
   Regarding incarceration. I see no evidence of R’s jumping on board the release gang. In fact, it is the opposite. Commit the crime and do the time. Do you think when you are robbing someone “jon” that you may get incarcerated? What a nutball.

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   George Rebane

   31 August 2015

   JoeK 600pm – I believe we all know what ‘rule’ means and who has been doing the ruling in California. Nevertheless, your Clintonesque rejoinder is well suited for the gruberized readerships on more sympathetic blogs.

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    George Rebane

    31 August 2015

    re Donny 538pm – just dug another comment out of the TypePad spam folder. It seems like RR got some coverage from the NC Scooper while I was on travel. At least they spelled ‘Rebane’ correctly 😉
    As an interesting footnote, even implying that unemployed black youth might work as field hands truly is a no-no in progressives’ eyes. Why? Well hell, their slave ancestors were also field hands, and recommending a return to the fields is equivalent to advocating the resumption of US slavery among the light thinkers. However, I am exempt from that criticism because I too was a field hand in my youth, and moreover, am a descendant of slave field hands who for centuries worked the Estonian plantations of our Russian and German masters. According to progressivist standards, likes can call out likes with impunity.

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    Joe Koyote

    31 August 2015

    George: We have a majority rule form of government and yes the CA legislature have been under democratic party control continuously since 1958 with the exception of two two year republican majorities in the Assembly during the Reagan and Wilson administrations. Prior to 1958 going back to 1900, the situation was the exact reverse with the state senate continuously in republican hands as was the legislature with the exception of 1938-42 when the assembly was in democratic control. The political pendulum seems not to swing in CA. It seems to be either one way or the other for long periods of time.
    It has only been during and since the Reagan era that CA has ever had any governors (all Republican) who served with democratically controlled legislature for any length of time. I guess the question is who has more power to enact a political agenda a governor or the legislature, the president or the congress in situations where there is a political split between the two? That might define ‘rule’ more clearly for those of us who don’t know what ‘rule’ means.

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12. 

    Don Bessee

    31 August 2015

    Koyote quibbles by totally ignoring the local levels of governance in the populated power centers.

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    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2015

    Yep, Don, the commie pinko socialist plan has always been to infiltrate the local school boards, local party leadership, local city councils and local Democrat caucuses first to get a nice big under the radar foot in the door. Giving credit where credit is due, they get a sincere “hat tip, sir” (ala MA) from me. CA is a fantastic example of how their plan has come into fruition . A total successful plan any way you slice or dice it. Good job, socialists. Our schools wiin too. It was all for the chilledrum.

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    Don Bessee

    31 August 2015

    So by chilledrum you mean teacher’s unions?

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    George Rebane

    31 August 2015

    JoeK 717pm – Joe, you are priceless. Thank you.

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    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2015

    Mr Don,
    Chilledrum. Hmmmm. Have no idea where that came from. Translation: children, aka, chilled run, chilled rum, chilledun, whatever autospell throws up there and I don’t feel like arguing with it. Curse you Gregory types. Oh, unions? How could I omit them on the mere partial list?
    Back on topic target. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I have been waiting since before the Reagen/Mondale debate to throw this one right back in their face.
    Watch out libbies, incoming! No worries: We are keeping the age card you played on us back in the day. Not keeping it, just will be using it next summer. Then we’ll give it back.
    https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/722432014557505/?type=1&theater

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    Jon

    31 August 2015

    Todd, your grasp of current events and reality gets worse with each passing day you toil within your lonely, sad life. Not a single thing you stated at 6:16 bears resemblance to truth. But that’s OK. PFTC.

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    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2015

    Watch out Todd, the gum dog’s girlfriend is defending his man. You shouldn’t said all those meanie things to Whatz his name over the Summit in the land of windswept frozen tundra dotted with electric cars. :). She defending her man Tood. In every relationship, one is the Princess and one is the Bull Moose. They are ganging up on ya, big guy. Sure, the Princess chimes in on a regular basis, but Bull Moose is gunning for bear. “Nobody talks to my man in that way! I’ll take care on this, Princess.” Down, Jon, down.

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    Todd Juvinall

    31 August 2015

    Jon | 31 August 2015 at 10:50 PM
    Where did you get the info I have a sad and lonely life? LOL! “Jon” you are irrelevant here and your butt buddy is now asleep. All I said was true and accurate and you are desperate for attention. My goodness your are so easy no wonder you and Frisch a pals.

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    Jon

    31 August 2015

    Todd, your entire world of bluster and faux machismo is dominated by projection. Its pretty amazing for someone trained to spot it.
    Yup, classic sad and lonely aging single male. But really its OK 🙂

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    Bill Tozer

    31 August 2015

    Pssss, Todd. Don’t say anything derogatory about colon cowboys nor any Showtime series. Those are hot topic no-nos. “Resist the devil and he will flee from you”, my Momma always counseled me. Don’t fall into Mr. Rump Ranger’s snare. Carry on.

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22. 

    fish

    01 September 2015

    Posted by: Jon | 31 August 2015 at 11:19 PM
    Its pretty amazing for someone trained to spot it.
    …and that would be you?

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23. 

    fish

    01 September 2015

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 31 August 2015 at 05:15 PM
    Posted by: fish | 31 August 2015 at 02:30 PM
    Actually, let me be the first here to denounce the New Black Panther Party for protesting in this way. Since some appear to be unsupportive of the NBPP doing so I am sure they will step forward now and denounce similar behavior at Bundy ranch and speak out against carrying loaded AR-15’s into Walmart just because it is their ‘right’.
    We will both remain consistent then. As I see it the NBPP did nothing more than beat their gums while holding firearms……no crime there! As far as last summers kerfuffle in the desert…..still wondering why charges haven’t been brought…..maybe they know that getting convictions in the matter isn’t likely.
    Why the animus against merely carrying a gun….?

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 September 2015

    Jon | 31 August 2015 at 11:19 PM
    So you are a pissologist? I think you have some screws loose “jon”. But liberalism is a mental disease.
    BiLLT, I will take your advice. LOL!

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    Steven Frisch

    01 September 2015

    Seriously, “..butt buddy?” If ever there was proof that Todd never grew beyond the mind of a 13 year old boy I would say that is it.

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 September 2015

    LOL!

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27. 

    Bill Tozer

    01 September 2015

    Time to clear the air and get back to Dr. Rebane’s topic at hand.
    First, I want to announce publicly that I forgive you, Steve. I forgive you not because you poisoned my people and their little innocent children, but I forgive you because that is the kind of evolved person I am. Time to drop the rock and free us both.
    I wish to add that at least you keep you antics on the other side of the range where water runs away from the Western Slope, where I currently abide.. Helpful hint #3: Always best to keep those kind of mischievous antics on the Eastern side of mountains. Gotta like your style though. The images of canoes paddling through orange foam was something only a Bronco fan would dream up. Nice touch.
    Besides, the Navajos were not here first. The Hopi outdated them by a good 800 years, so screw them undocumented Redskins. Plus they are not an attractive tribe, so drink up boys, drinks are on the EPA. You have been given a clean slate, Mr. Steve.
    Now, the real important stuff. Hillary. Are we giving her too much exposure, thus helping her achieve inevitably? Hmmm. Much to ponder this fine lovely morning.
    http://patriotpost.us/articles/37328

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28. 

    fish

    01 September 2015

    Amazing….who would have thought that I would agree with Sid Blumenthal on anything!?

    “Boehner is despised by the younger, more conservative members of the House Republican Conference,” Blumenthal wrote to Clinton. “They are repelled by his personal behavior.”
    “He is louche, alcoholic, lazy, and without any commitment to any principle,” he added.
    According to dictionary.com, “louche” means “dubious, shady, disreputable.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2571172/

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    Bill Tozer

    01 September 2015

    Oh Fish, that describes half the population.

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30. 

    fish

    01 September 2015

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 01 September 2015 at 09:16 AM
    I don’t want “half the population” standing against President Ward Heelers agenda either William. Well I do…..but you know what I mean!
    Boehner is an orange embarrassment!

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    Walt

    01 September 2015

    More on the coal front.
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/09/01/coal-play-virginia-environmentalist-follows-soros-buys-into-beleaguered-fossil/?intcmp=hplnws
    John Sparr, a mining engineer and geologist, said merely planting trees is no guarantee that the CO2 from burning coal will be absorbed.
    “On paper, it is simple to calculate the amount of CO2 emissions a ton of coal will produce and then to calculate the number of trees it takes to consume the CO2,” Sparr said. “The problem with that theory is that you have to “train” the CO2 molecules to go to those trees . . . maybe we only burn coal when the wind is blowing in that direction?
    “And, oh yes, the trees,” he said. “Are these mature, 40-foot oak trees they are planting, or more likely 16-inch pine seedlings? Do they realize how long it will take to get a mature forest capable of consuming the CO2?”
    Just wait for this scam to show up in the power bill/

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 September 2015

    I met Boehner at a LaMalfa dinner and even have a picture of the three of us. He is a smoker, but his voice is still OK it appears. He was not drinking at the function. Hillary uses a private, non legal server to diss Boehner? I think this is the Clinton tried and true ropa-dope. Divert the media (watch the shiny object crowd) while screwing the nations secrets. Just like Bill sending our rocket secrets to the Chi-coms.

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33. 

    Jon

    01 September 2015

    Walt, give it up on coal. Its day is done.

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    George Rebane

    01 September 2015

    Note on Jon’s 1058am on coal. Note that the man has never addressed the projected explosion of coal consumption in the coming decades (which I posted in a previous sandbox), and that the likes of Soros and Buffett are investing in it. All he has to contribute is his broken record repetition of “give it up on coal. Its day is done.”

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 September 2015

    GeorgeR, why do you assume “jon” is a man? He never answers questions, no one knows who or what he/she is. He is uneducated about most of the issues you post. He /she is an embarrassment and my guess is the readers have no empathy for him/her. LOL!

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36. 

    Don Bessee

    01 September 2015

    Dr. R didn’t they tell you that repeating a false talking point ad nauseum is the big lie 101 they teach them in school.

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    Walt

    01 September 2015

    Dougy… Your Solyndra investments going up yet?

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    Don Bessee

    01 September 2015

    Monmouth poll has Carson tied with Trump in Iowa at 23%. If the lefties like the dark lord of liberal lament land and his ilk keep calling Carson coon, house nigger, uncle tom and the like they will start pissing off the black base.

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    Bill Tozer

    01 September 2015

    Carson was and is my first pic along (with Gov John K. as VP to lead this country) but figured he would be swept under the carpet. Of course, if any one of us called Dr. Carson those names, it would be headlining the next post on The Lord of the Flies’s site. In fact, this is so outrageous that, Mr. Don, that I struggle to believe you on this one. Coon? I cannot conceive The Lord of the Flies not immediately removing that despicable racial epthitet and barring the poster for life. Usually have no reason to doubt you, Don, but this is too over the top for even potty mouth me. Surely you jest. I cannot utter the other antiquated term. I feel ill.

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    Bill Tozer

    01 September 2015

    Walt, a 36″ diameter oak is safe to say over 200 years old. Very safe to say. The diameter measurement is taken 4 feet from the ground. However, some 18″ diameter oaks have been found to well over a century old and many pushing 200 years old themselves. Had a 72″ diameter black oak once. Well, I owned the land but one never really owns the trees or the land, IMHO. That was one old mamba jamba , fully crowned. A branch one night fell and blocked the driveway. The branch’ alone was the height of the hood of a 3/4 ton 1970 GMC 4×4. Big boy, but I digress. Grow piss fir and yellow or white pine is you want to reforest in a couple of generations or so, lol.

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    Steven Frisch

    01 September 2015

    Posted by: Walt | 01 September 2015 at 09:50 AM
    What part of the carbon cycle and the point that it is a global ecosystem function don’t you understand Walt? (I and not sticking up for carbon offset projects for coal emissions, just commenting on the cycle)

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42. 

    Gregory

    01 September 2015

    Regarding the rulers of California, Jesse “Big Daddy” Unruh did a bang up job backing Governor Brown (the dad, not the son), Leo McCarthy (iirc Terry McAteer’s godparent) was in that spot when Governor Brown (Moonbeam v1.0) gave Public Employee unions the right to collective bargaining over wages and benefits, and his successor, Willie Brown, did a bang up job of gathering power over his fifteen years with the gavel.
    Since January 1959, a GOP Assemblyman has been Speaker of the California Assembly a total of about two years. Dems have controlled that body for two of the past fifty six years.

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    George Rebane

    01 September 2015

    StevenF 359pm – I don’t think that Walt’s 950am indicated he didn’t understand that the carbon cycle “is a global ecosystem function”. But the entire carbon cycle itself (sources, sinks, and rates of production and absorption) is not well understood. Most certainly not understood to a degree that a system scientist would claim useful in general circulation models to predict climate variability – especially isolating out the effect of any one small component – over the coming couple of decades, let alone the rest of the century.
    Here’s how NOAA’s PR people try to put the best face on it. Reading this as a professional confirms the assessment on the worth of today’s GCM models.
    http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/research/themes/carbon/

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    Todd Juvinall

    01 September 2015

    Here is a 52 minute CSPAN clip at the Manhattan Institute yesterday. Mark Mills was discussing Shale Oil and Production Technology. He got into most of the issues on “climate change”, CO2, and the rest. The man is really smart and easy to understand. He is non political.
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?326585-1/discussion-shale-oil-production

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    Steven Frisch

    01 September 2015

    Posted by: George Rebane | 01 September 2015 at 04:39 PM
    “The problem with that theory is that you have to “train” the CO2 molecules to go to those trees . . . maybe we only burn coal when the wind is blowing in that direction?”
    Funny George, I don’t think that that is at all what Walt meant. If he did then why did he repost this?
    The idea that the global carbon cycle is not well understood is complete malarky. We know more about and are doing more research on a daily basis on carbon cycle components that almost any other areas of scientific research other than perhaps medical research on various cancers. The idea that systems scientists and models have not been able to predict variability within a reasonable range of uncertainty is also complete malarky. Climate models have certainly progressed to the point that they are remarkably accurate at predicting long term changes and are becoming more accurate all the time predicting shorter term affects. The question is not are they accurate, they will never be 100% accurate, they are models. The question is are they accurate enough for people to act on their predictions.

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46. 

    Walt

    01 September 2015

    Steve just can’t (or won’t) read. Another ECO bastard buying coal, and trying to use ‘carbon credits” to plant seedlings to suck up the CO2. A fools errand.
    He will go broke before Soros will, then Soros will buy up those stocks even cheaper.
    Coal will need to go up plenty before either on can make a dime.
    So both of the ECO bastards are betting on the Right taking the White House, and ending the war on coal.
    Someone nail the “jon” door closed. Every time “it” opens, it stinks up the place.

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    Jon

    01 September 2015

    Walt, you haven’t the first clue about big time investing, coal or ecology/environmental studies.
    Best stick to BBQ talk and such. I have no doubt you know a few things about an outdoor grill.

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48. 

    Jon

    01 September 2015

    Walt, to begin your journey in understanding the latest innovations in energy and renewables, here’s some good reading to begin with. Great investment and yet another milestone on the path to the new world of US energy.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-navy-solar-farm-arizona_55e5e235e4b0b7a9633a6406

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    Steven Frisch

    01 September 2015

    I’m sorry Walt, I was not commenting on the efficacy of anyone buying coal stocks..I was commenting on the quotes you included that prove that neither you nor your quoted source know their rear ends from a hole in the ground about the carbon cycle.

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    Don Bessee

    01 September 2015

    Anyone who says ‘big time investing’ to deflect is clearly displaying no depth of knowledge whatsoever. That would be you the ‘jon’.

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