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Sandbox – 23aug15

23 August 2015

[OK, can someone besides crickets explain why farmers are experiencing a shortage of field labor with one out four black youth unemployed, along with an unknown high unemployment rate among our illegal aliens? gjr]

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304 responses to “Sandbox – 23aug15”

Ben Emery

28 August 2015

To the question,
OK, can someone besides crickets explain why farmers are experiencing a shortage of field labor with one out four black youth unemployed, along with an unknown high unemployment rate among our illegal aliens?
Farm workers are still paid with antiquated pay scales, which haven’t even come close of rising with the cost of living. In America we don’t like paying the true cost of food therefore the true cost of labor.
As far as semi racist association part of the question. 1) How many black teens live in rural areas? 2) I am not sure if you noticed but the Obama administration has been cracking down on undocumented and illegal immigrants. I still don’t know why you guys don’t love Obama. He is everything you want in executive branch and more.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flow-of-illegal-immigration-slows-as-us-mexico-border-dynamics-evolve/2015/05/27/c5caf02c-006b-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html

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Todd Juvinall

28 August 2015

Fish, yep, I deserve a smack.

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Walt

28 August 2015

Didn’t read what I posted on that did you Ben? 15 bucks an hour is the going rate.
How much do you want to pay for Ca. grown food? Remember,, veggies shipped in from GOD knows where, the cost of labor is pennies on the dollar, and the use of chemicals is far less regulated.
Enjoy the new cost of Ca. grown.

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Todd Juvinall

28 August 2015

Ben Emery, yes it is easy to explain. We have high unemployment in the inner cities and those farmers could use those young men for the fields. But they won’t go.

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

Oh, silly Ben Koyote, there ought to be a law…like a whole bunch more, right?
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1440813200./10152815741020914/?type=3&theater
Those old decrepit forefathers were so out of touch with our modern time, eh The Jon on The Spot. Citizens protecting Liberty, Freedom, and Principles, what a hoot! If I was 300 pounds fatter, I would be rolling on the floor laughing my pitchfork handle sized ass off.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1440813124./10152877588665914/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

Todd @ 6:43pm
Geez Tood, you just don’t get it. Ben Jon Koyote know that being a victim is morally superior. Ben does it well, protecting the victims from you! There are two kinds of people in this world. Victims (morally superior) and folks like you (the reason the morally superior are non empowered).
Yo Ben
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1440814035./718804884920218/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/pb.217926015008110.-2207520000.1440814024./720200224780684/?type=3&theater

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

Yes, there is such a thing as Black Privelge
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296.63999.217926015008110/720987394701967/?type=1&theater
Yo, Jon, you must be the kind that believes everything you read. Helpful hint: Stop reading the white on the page and filling in the blanks instead of reading those colorless black letters on the page. It worked for me, might work for you. Try it sometime. You may find it new and exciting.
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/720867621380611/?type=1&theater

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Jon

28 August 2015

Todd, please put the drink down and learn to read. I do agree- you have no class, and publishing phone numbers on here is a great example. But kudos first go to Mr. Kesti has nailed your lack of class on on numerous occasions.
apology accepted. Thanks.

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Don Bessee

28 August 2015

Save the feigned indignation the ‘jon’. You wish none of us well. Sounds like you need to put down whatever is altering your perceptions, (insert your stuff of choice here) oh wait your a socialist so that counts as poly drug use. Many of us engaged in the community have our numbers out there. So go ahead and do your best bart simpson but the records of everything are there upon demand for both sides of the call, oh ya LE too. Do you have dread locks? ROFLOL

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

Goodie, Jon came out to play. Quick, let’s do some trash talk before Dr. Rebane starts a new sandbox. Let down on your bad self, sweet cheeks.
Jon, is this your Mr. Likeable?
https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/720966068037433/?type=1&theater
Yo Jonnie, they are talking about you. Heck, everybody is cause your be a very impotent mangina.
https://www.facebook.com/ThePatriotFederation/photos/a.1438199709731887.1073741827.1438198179732040/1669459889939200/?type=1&theater

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Todd Juvinall

28 August 2015

What a hoot! “Jon” is a troll and he is giving us real people advice! Jeeze the internet is entertaining. But “jon”, you need to stay off the ecstasy tab and start talking coherently. I have more class in my pinky than you do in your whole trollish bod.

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Todd Juvinall

28 August 2015

Hey trollman “jon”, why do you not answer us? We ask for your profession. You never answer. How come?

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

He never answers because he is his own worse nightmare. Besides, he is too busy looking for monsters under his bed to be bothered right now. Helpful hint #2. Jon, the bogeyman is not under your bed. But be very very careful when you open your closet. He moved over there. That is why you can’t find him/them hiding beneath. At least you were correct, they are there. Not under your bunk, but you felt their present. Always a silver lining. Do not go into the closet.

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Bill Tozer

28 August 2015

My, my. I bet he doesn’t apologize for this delightful speaking clearly what I have been thinking. Trump might save CNN’s ratings with their 24/7 The Donald Coverage. Enjoy.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/252238-trump-rips-clinton-aide-huma-abedin-and-perv-husband-anthony

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Douglas Keachie

29 August 2015

I am Jon.

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Douglas Keachie

29 August 2015

“Take away the teachers’ lounges, Greg, that’ll learn’em.”
So says one Republican Presidential hopeful.

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Jon

29 August 2015

Keach, exactly. With a few exceptions (ie, Kasich) the Repub field consists of stand up comedians, angry racist-toned governors, or certified Morons (ie. Rick Perry).

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Todd Juvinall

29 August 2015

Let the two lib trolls speak to each other. What a hoot!

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Steven Frisch

29 August 2015

I am Spartacus! 🙂

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Todd Juvinall

29 August 2015

No, maybe a eunuch for Nero. LOL!

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George Rebane

29 August 2015

L’état, c’est moi! … if only. Oh well. 😉

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fish

29 August 2015

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 29 August 2015 at 05:04 PM
Company with whom I’m sure you would be most comfortable.

1) Toussaint L’Ouverture, a leader of the slave revolt that led to the independence of Haiti, was called the “Black Spartacus” by one of his defeated opponents, the Comte de Lavaux.
2) Founder of the Bavarian Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt, often referred to himself as Spartacus within written correspondences.[49]
3) Karl Marx listed Spartacus as one of his heroes, and described him as “the most splendid fellow in the whole of ancient history” and “[a] great general ([though] no Garibaldi), noble character, real representative of the ancient proletariat.”[50]
Spartacus has been a great inspiration to revolutionaries in modern times, most notably the German Spartacus League, a forerunner of the Communist Party of Germany, as well as an Austrian anti-fascist organization in the 1970s.

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Russ

29 August 2015

Too good not to share:
PEGGY NOONAN ON DONALD TRUMP:
You know the latest numbers. Quinnipiac University’s poll this week has Mr. Trump at a hefty 28% nationally, up from 20% in July. Public Policy Polling has Mr. Trump leading all Republicans in New Hampshire with 35%. A Monmouth University poll has him at 30% in South Carolina, followed 15 points later by Ben Carson.
Here are some things I think are happening.
One is the deepening estrangement between the elites and the non-elites in America. This is the area in which Trumpism flourishes. We’ll talk about that deeper in.
Second, Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means.
Third, the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the Republican universe—its establishment, respected voices in conservative media, sober-minded state party officials—have little to no impact on Mr. Trump’s rise. Some say voices of authority should stand up to oppose him, which will lower his standing. But Republican powers don’t have that kind of juice anymore. Mr. Trump’s supporters aren’t just bucking a party, they’re bucking everything around, within and connected to it.
Since Mr. Trump announced I’ve worked or traveled in, among other places, Southern California, Connecticut, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey and New York’s Long Island. In all places I just talked to people. My biggest sense is that political professionals are going to have to rethink “the base,” reimagine it when they see it in their minds.
I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday to say she’d just registered Republican. I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”
Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”
“He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

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Steven Frisch

29 August 2015

I think the only one who got the joke is Mr. Rebane, the rest of the ruminants seem to have forgotten their Hollywood history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0

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Steven Frisch

29 August 2015

Oh, and in case you missed it, yes, each and every one of us is the state. The problem all y’all have is that vox populi has passed you by.

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fish

29 August 2015

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 29 August 2015 at 07:50 PM
Yawn……..

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Don Bessee

29 August 2015

That would be DR frichy @742. What supervisorial district do yo live in old boy?

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Walt

29 August 2015

ECO bastards VS national security. Its such a GREAT idea to put up windmills in front of early warning radar.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/29/how-obamas-environmental-policies-are-undermining-the-us-military-and-national-security/

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Bill Tozer

29 August 2015

What out Steve. Trump does not like pervs.

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Bill Tozer

29 August 2015

Not a smidgen of corruption our president said about the the IRS. Looks to me our benevolent protectors have been sitting around the barn and eating all the hay in a very biased manner. Another day, another e-mail scandal. What, 3 or 4 this week alone. Something about Slick Willey’s private server and a few more. Not a smidgen of corruption at the Justice Department, IRS, State Department, EPA, the Department of Education, Homeland Security, …..the whole Administration is corrupt and deceitful. And people wonder why our post racial President is still playing the race card. Off with their heads.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/08/29/irs-ordered-to-turn-over-any-docs-showing-white-house-request-for-taxpayer-info/

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Steven Frisch

30 August 2015

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 August 2015 at 10:31 PM
I’m not sure exactly what that means Bill. Do you care to elaborate?

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Bill Tozer

30 August 2015

Good morning Steve. Liked the link you posted. And people say you have no sense of humor. Wrong! My elaboration is required due to a typo. I mean to say Watch out Steve, not what out Steve. The rest is fairly self explanatory.
Well, you and your Scared Cow EPA has not poisoned any Kermit the Frogs or Injuns in the last 2 hours that I am aware of. But, I do like your beloved EPA’s style. Sending the Navajo Nation emergency drinking water in barrels contaminated with oil was a class act. A sign of true genius from those protecting the little people’s health and welfare. Is it because them savage Redmen are not white? Is it, Steve? Kind of a preverted thing to do, but it does have a flair of imigination I must confess. Oh, my poor people suffering under the heavy hand of your people. Do you really hate us that much? We leave you alone, but you seem to be unable to keep your heavy handed clutch of poisonous death from us little people. Whatz up with dat?
Heard the EPA had a new theme song. The old classic Land of 1,000 Dances. Very appropriate. The irony had not escaped me. Sung by Hannibal and the Headhunters, perv.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTPFERD8zs

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Gregory

30 August 2015

Not only do I remember my 1960’s cinema, I never got taken in by Keach’s declaration. The classic three stooges on the local blog scenes were Keachie, Frischie and Michael P. Anderson, and Anderson has been absent for not much longer than “Jon” has been posting.
“Agent Nation” can be expected to be at Burning Man for the next week.

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fish

30 August 2015

Posted by: Gregory | 30 August 2015 at 10:21 AM
I’m inclined to take KKKrazy Doug at his word I don’t remember MA ever managing to be that smarmy.

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John

30 August 2015

Agreed fish, but we all know who is that smarmy.

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Gregory

30 August 2015

I’ve witnessed Doug Keachie making stuff up (also Steven Frisch and Michael P. Anderson), so taking him at his word isn’t in the cards.
I also don’t think Keach is capable of aping the “Jon” style for more than a few seconds at a time.
Regarding Frisch’s “The problem all y’all have is that vox populi has passed you by”, were I a Republican I’d be heartened by the plurality of state legislatures the GOP controls, not to mention governorships, the Senate and the House. California is a one party state but the Democratic Party here is fully invested in the Global Warming crisis and the continuing crisis is the lack of warming, just a drought that is, according to NOAA research, not caused by “Global Warming” and matches a number of past natural drought cycles. Lots of cold, lots of snow nationwide would make it that much harder to continue to fool some of the people all of the time and it looks like the snow is coming.

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Gregory

30 August 2015

The extended forecast by Accuweather shows most of September with high temps about 10 degrees south of average… in fact, this Thursday is expected to be about 15 degs cooler than average.
Of course, that’s only weather… weather is only climate when it’s significantly hotter than normal.

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Bill Tozer

30 August 2015

I personally was fond of Mr. Sky Pilot Anderson. At least he laughed at my jokes and that showed his other side. Oh my, the other side. I hope he has a blast @ BM. I want pictures of my kind of debachery. That bug infestation should be petering out by now, unless it rained yesterday. Timing is everyrhing. Yep, Michael and I were walking hand in hand until that harlot Fish came to class one day and the first thing you know I was waiting at the alter…..and it’s been a long wait. Darn that Scaly One. What a hussite hussie.

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fish

30 August 2015

Posted by: Gregory | 30 August 2015 at 11:44 AM
Of course, that’s only weather… weather is only climate when it’s significantly hotter than normal.
….or you need to scare the rabble.

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Steven Frisch

30 August 2015

Posted by: Gregory | 30 August 2015 at 11:44 AM
I love it when people who deny the rising climate crises use weather as a proxy for science. It really shows just how disingenuous their positions are.
But that’s really not the point is it?
Even with Republican control of many sate houses and Congress, policy is constantly moving toward liberalization. Abortion. Gay marriage. Civil rights. Immigration policy.Climate. Politics follow culture, culture does not follow politics, and the nation is inexorably moving left. Even young conservatives are moving left. Conservatarians can fight it tooth and nail, but they are fighting a losing battle, and they know it, which is why they are so very angry and acting out in nativist, racist, misogynist and homophobic rhetoric.
The point I was making was that Keach was pulling your chains boys, and dimwits like Todd, Walt, and Fish fall for it like the rubes they really are. Which gives MA, Keach, Jon and me a belly laugh every day. Ever notice that with the possible exception of Keach, we don’t really have time to post during the day….that’s because we are out in the real world doing things, while you guys are on the back porch of life bitching like a bunch of old men.

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Bill Tozer

30 August 2015

You mean old angry white men, don’t you Steve. BTW, if using the word perv attached to your name makes you uncomfortable, I will extend the hand of understanding and drop that adjective. There, that was easy, Mr. Skull and Crossbones. The Earth forgives you.

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fish

30 August 2015

Even with Republican control of many sate houses and Congress, policy is constantly moving toward liberalization. Abortion. Gay marriage. Civil rights. Immigration policy.Climate. Politics follow culture, culture does not follow politics, and the nation is inexorably moving left. Even young conservatives are moving left. Conservatarians can fight it tooth and nail, but they are fighting a losing battle, and they know it, which is why they are so very angry and acting out in nativist, racist, misogynist and homophobic rhetoric.
Well it is Sunday…a perfectly appropriate time for offering up ones most fervent prayers.

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Gregory

30 August 2015

I hate it when people who imagine a warming climate crisis use weather as a proxy for science, which has been the case for every heat wave in the past decade or so. Turnabout can be fair play especially when one expressly points out it’s only weather.
Yes, a sure sign of a Rube tends to be taking people at their word. How hick can one be? Enjoy those bellylaughs, Steven; I’d rather be a rube than one of the accomplished liars but will settle for something in the middle.
I use the impending cool weather as a pure indicator of how well the alarm will be selling to voters come springtime, summer and fall. A number of those of the Physics persuasion are expecting a cooling starting right about now and lasting until about 2080 and if it pans out, the lack of the forecast warming and expensive energy (damn, photovoltaics really don’t put out when covered with snow, nor do iced up wind turbines) will not wear well for Democrats, nor will it wear well for our local 6 figure rentseeking 501c3 CEO, Steven Frisch of the so-called Sierra Business Council which isn’t a Council of Businesses.
Unlike the students of the Trivial Arts like Stephen and Dougie, I can and do read the journal articles myself, and know how to tell the difference between activists like Mann or Oreskes from those who are doing the hard science.

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Walt

30 August 2015

LOL Stevey,, “chain pulling”? Nope,, we know trolls. It’s been more than obvious that the “jon” was a pack of lies. Pure trollism. Ya.. he was “pulling” something.. One handed typing is more like it. Right down to “his” claim of Muslim.
“he” live up to the LIBS LIE moniker.
As for your AGW crap, the ONLY place it exists is on paper that’s fabricated too.
Every “expert” gets caught “F”ing with the numbers. ” what? temp.s actually not agreeing with what we say? Well we can fix that.”

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Gregory

30 August 2015

I hate it when people who need a warming climate crisis to fulfill their political goals use weather as a proxy for science. It really shows just how disingenuous their positions are but it does appear their chickens are coming home to roost, and the roastings will be by natural gas, not CO2.
Yes, Rubes tend to take people at their word. How stupid can one be? I’d rather be a rube than a Steven or a Dougie, but being stuck between the liars and the Rubes will do just fine.
Thanks for the tacit admission that Michael Anderson is still among us, Steve.

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Todd Juvinall

30 August 2015

The world is passing Steve Frisch by it appears. He is so dumb ghe believes his own propaganda. Amazing that a person without heirs would agree selling baby parts for a profit (or none) is OK. I mean, is Frisch a zombie, a flesh eating monster perv? Looks to me like his agenda is one that fits into a ghoulish Transylvania circa 1400. Frisch could be the “headhunter” for them and I don’t mean looking for executives. He is a cartoon!

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fish

30 August 2015

Yes, a sure sign of a Rube tends to be taking people at their word.
The most entertaining aspect of this is of course that it had it’s genesis from Pellines insistence that people post…..”real name next time, thank you!”….. while he himself enjoyed posting under pseudonyms elsewhere. I don’t care if Keachie posts as “Keachie”, “jon”, “Frisch” or Santa Claus. The tone and language was similar enough to jeffy that it was as if he had shit out a smaller version of himself to post autonomously.

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Bill Tozer

30 August 2015

Yep Fish, somebody was working overtime pulling on His Purple Mountain’ Majesty’s finger. They are multiplying. Figured it was time he spit into smaller Minimes anyhow.

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Gregory

30 August 2015

Well since Dougie came out with my name at the tip of his tongue (29 August 2015 at 12:44 PM), one bad turn deserves another.
It’s public information… Doug gets a grand total of $22,980.00 from the Frisco School District via CalSTRS for 18.59 years of “service”. and has been retired since 2004.
Consider yourself lucky, Doug.

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Todd Juvinall

30 August 2015

Did I see the Keachies pension mentioned on the FUE’s blog? Oops no, they are pals. LOL!

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