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Sandbox – 23aug15

23 August 2015

[OK, can someone besides crickets explain why farmers are experiencing a shortage of field labor with one out four black youth unemployed, along with an unknown high unemployment rate among our illegal aliens? gjr]

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304 responses to “Sandbox – 23aug15”

Walt

24 August 2015

What next Bill? Beef brisket ala Goodyear? Just a few chunks of mud and snow should do wonders in the BBQ.

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Gregory

24 August 2015

Here’s something completely different… Common Core will be front and center in the news in California very soon now, as the wretchedly misnamed “Smarter Balanced” Common Core test results have been given to all the school districts in California. When parents get the results for Junior is unclear but probably mid September.
Unlike in the ’90’s when, after Whole Math (as defined by Phil Daro in the disastrous 1992 MATHEMATICS FRAMEWORK for California Public Schools), when California started testing it was with a well known, benchmarked SAT9 test that had been refined for years. Now, we have a brand spanking new Common Core “State” Standards (that the states had nothing to do with developing) defined by the guy those Washington DC 501c3’s behind common core hired to define the common core… the very same Phil Daro whose only college degree remains a BA in English from Berkeley in the ’60’s.
To be fair, Daro did wash out of Physics and Math before he decided to major in English so he isn’t entirely unschooled in science and math, just not enough to actually major in it.
I’m sure our county Superintendent, Holly Hermansen (married to Jon Byerrum, the whole math, whole language maven who presided over the GVSD’s plunge in the ’90’s and the Oughts) will be on top of managing the public relations efforts required to keep the natives from getting too restless, and I’m going to guess Ms. Campbell at the Board of the high school district is going to have a hard time holding her tongue, as always.
Stay tuned.

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George Rebane

24 August 2015

Gregory 157pm – In what sense do you mean for Ms Campbell to have problems “holding her tongue”?

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Gregory

24 August 2015

George, I know only one meaning for holding one’s tongue. It’s that one.

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George Rebane

24 August 2015

Gregory 258pm – Silly me, I thought of two. 1) Opposing CC use in our schools, 2) Promoting CC use in our schools.

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Gregory

24 August 2015

An even more ominous sign for the upcoming public release of the “Smarter Balanced” test results is that the California Department of Education has removed from their website all of the STAR (Standardized Testing And Reporting) math and language results, spanning 1998 through 2013. No significant STAR, Academic Performance Index (API) or Similar Schools information. Wiped clean.
For example, it is now nearly impossible for a parent of a prospective student to learn that the Yuba River Charter School was at the bottom of it’s 100 Similar Schools list. The worst performance of the 100 schools that are the most similar to YRCS in the state. At one time it was at 99 but the worst school in that ranking (another Waldorf Charter) got closed down.
Something tells me the new portal created for Common Core testing will make it even harder for parents and other stakeholders to evaluate the schools in their area.
If you are a ‘serious researcher’ the files are still available but the portal for mortals to get public information has effectively been shut down.

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Gregory

24 August 2015

George 3:17… both of those are essentially the same… they’d both involve flapping lips uncontrollably when discretion would be appropriate.. In Campbell’s case, she’s chugged the CCSS Koolaid and an opposition to CC is, in my opinion, not in the cards.

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George Rebane

24 August 2015

Gregory 322pm – where should political pressure be applied in the interval so that a “portal for mortals” (love that metaphor) will indeed be available?

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Gregory

24 August 2015

It’s a state issue, so your state representatives (Assembly, Senate), Governor, Superintendent of Public Instruction and Guv’ner would all be targets. The Union and SacBee might also be interested in how the state is closing down access to public information.

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Don Bessee

24 August 2015

Saw an interesting annalists china notes that were written just before the recent currency devaluation. It was focused on the capital outflows this year from china and their actual liquid forex reserves. The concern was that while china shows 3.7T in reserves no one is buying it since at least almost a trillion was used to set up their new development bank that has loans in the 3rd world locked to mines and other development so illiquid there. China has been burning about 40 billion a month in reserves to shore up markets. Her main concern was what we are seeing now and that if it goes too far china could be hammered by having to dump big amounts of US bonds and the traders would find out and react before the chines govt. can sell the bonds and use the cash to shore up markets. The level of the chines municipalities debt is really unknown but what is clear is they wasted most of the money on unused projects like the vacant cities and industrial centers. The realities of a tyrant run system trying to pretend they are a market economy are starting to been realized.

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Walt

24 August 2015

Well Trump was right. Trump has been saying for a long time that China would damage the U.S.
It just did.

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Walt

24 August 2015

OK LIBS your LIB news source sure know how to twist things. Story here.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/24/if-you-think-government-should-ever-be-limited-you-want-people-to-die-in-fires/
“The shirt says “Lower Taxes + Less Government = More Freedom.” You can buy one here on the site of the FreedomWorks Tea Party organization.”
“Slate… Only crap that’s unfit to print”

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Don Bessee

24 August 2015

Jeb rightly point a finger at the organized Asian anchor baby mills like the luxury ones in LA that were recently busted with a bunch of big wigs relatives doing the anchor baby. Nice way to set up money laundering end point for the Chinese commie bosses.

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Don Bessee

24 August 2015

This is china’s bubble not ours. If we can get a competent federal govt. next year this can all work out well for us in the long run. The flight to safe parking places for money did not include gold. Does anyone remember back not so long ago when Japan was ascendant and at one point the real estate value of Tokyo was more than most of America and they were paying crazy money for ego properties? With our energy independence our production costs are again in the zone if we can get the politicians we need to take advantage. Please do not let emotion let you f^*k with your 401k’s and such.

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Walt

24 August 2015

My 401K sure is buttsore, no amount of preparation H will help at the moment.
But no,, selling isn’t the answer. What I hold will come back over time.
Good thing the rest of my assets are NOT in the market. I have been waiting for this.
Now the question is when to buy, and what. Has the market hit bottom or not?
Now the real game begins. Like looking at dinner through a rifle scope, and using a muzzle loader.. You got one shot.. Now to make it count.. Wait too long, and it’s out of range.

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Walt

24 August 2015

OK,, what do you make of this?
After hours has the DOW up over 200 at the moment. Need to keep tabs on that.

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Walt, no one can constiently pick the true highest of highest and lowest of lows of the market, which everybody knows but we think we are special and will beat the odds this time. What goes up must come down and all that. But some do go up up and away in my beautiful balloon until it loses attitude somewhere over The Grand Canyon. Ah, when to buy? Another Warren the Buff old quote: Sell when everyone is rushing to buy and buy when there is blood in the streets. Well, the last part of the quote is accurate maybe not the first part word for word. Granted, that takes some brass ones. But, what do I know is I don’t know when to call highs and downdrafts.for sure. The market is 100% forward looking.
I once thought I had a secret winner. Saw CA shutting down cement plants and Texas had a couple of big ones, one just bought up by those darn foreigners. So I checked the fore-ners out and come to find out they were pretty big and global. Top 3-4 in the wold, maybe 4th. Had the contract to do the Dubai airport, supplying the construction boom in Spain, was all over Latin America and The Mediterrian, had barges shipping cement to Hong Kong, and more. I bought high at 34-36 bucks American and sold at 6. But, the last divididen check from Bank of New York International Division was 7 bucks a share, lol. Too much hanky panky for my radar. I sold it just because. I did not foresee the global correction in 2008 and I just got plumb tired of following it swing all over the map, So, don’t listen to me y’all. That’s the best advice I could ever give a picker. Where is the Crystal Ball??

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

I am tired of reading daily e-mail woes for Hilliary Rodclam Clinton. So, let’s kick around an idea instead of events. How about these bananas:
Hillary had been the Anointed Appointed Heir to the Throne for years now. She maintains high favorability with women, blacks (the majority of them are not true hard core liberals…more like old Democrats with a family first core belief system). Same with the average Latino, maybe not the Chicanos though. The average person of color wants change, but not political revolution.
. Sorry, Bernie. The lion’s share of average people of color are not totally liberal to the core when having to choose between far left and left of center, IMneverHO.
She stomps any Dem in the race and matches up more that pretty against several Republicans. Name recognition and all that. Never mind that we can’t name one single notable achievement Mrs. Bill Clinton did in the Senate, at State, or even in her 8 years of being The First Lady. That don’t matter to most voters.
Hillary sits in the catbird seat. She just had to kick back and let others duke it out. She will win the Democrat Primary, scandals or no scandals by doing nothing. . Heck, if Obama was sitting in prison right now for child molestation, probably 38-44 % of the voting public would vote for him. Hillary is no smooth Obama, put many many will vote for her in the end. She did draw more popular votes than Obama in the 2008 primaries if you count Puerto Rico.
So, I ain’t so sure that Hillary is toast. She was/is married to man who self declared himself The Comeback Kid after he came in 3rd in New Hampshire and after the Clinton’s 60 Minute interview as the bimbo eruption started to heat up. She is skilled.
Conventional wisdom said she could waltz into the White House. Just play it safe and cool which is exactly what she has done since before she officially announced. Talk to only handpicked dire hard supporters in pre-screened Town Hall small settings and it will look like she is listening to the “Ametican people.” That is her campaign strategy and she is sticking to it. She isn’t good in large crowds or with hecklers, so they shy away from those settings. Plus, it doesn’t look to good for The Dem Party Mantle Bearer to address the people in half filled settings. Anything bigger than a high school gym or a small theater at some college with 900 students doesn’t pack them in.
Hilliary might just waltz her way straight to victory at the Dem National Convention, barring a complete implosion from within and from without. She is still in the catbird seat.

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Walt

24 August 2015

Well Bill,, the “crystal ball” has the DOW up 376 as of now. The bottom feeders chowing down?

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Walt

24 August 2015

The rat bastards in D.C. sure love to use false email accounts. We know it started with the EPA then Hillary,, now back to the IRS.
Just like Herpes,, they just keep popp’n up. Now guess who!!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/24/irs-finds-yet-another-lois-lerner-email-account/

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Gregory

24 August 2015

It’s 10PM Monday night.
Of the ten comments at the FUE’s sandbox, eight were written by the FUE himself, meaning, of course, virtually no one wants to interact with the guy.

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Walt

24 August 2015

That means “they” will show up here soon.

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Yep, here’s jonnie will be snooping around here any minute now.. Good link about Lerner. She did a lot of damage. Behind the scenes Tea Party Average Joes who merely attended a rally and signed up on some mailing list were getting themselves audited. And they were the faceless nameless ones. Met an older gentleman from Nevada City that he does not wear his Tea Party ball cap anymore or show up at meeting because he does not need the hassle of an audit. Not afraid of an audit by the IRS, just doesn’t need the extra hassle. I hope they take that bitch Lois and hang her upside down and plant a thorn bush between her legs. Only in my dreams. 🙂
Sandbox time from my hands down no holds barred favorite feminist ever, the former head of LA’s NOW chapter and former feminist buddy with Ms Gloria Steinmen, the one, the only, the woman who came to the light, my favorite switch hitter on the planet, Ms. Tammy Bruce discusses the Dems War of Women.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/24/tammy-bruce-democrats-take-women-granted/

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Bill Tozer

24 August 2015

Ah, another source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/cartoons/campaign-2012/gop-bench/

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Joe Koyote

24 August 2015

can someone besides crickets explain why farmers are experiencing a shortage of field labor with one out four black youth unemployed”
As far as black youth are concerned, I don’t know if here are that many fruits and vegetables to pick in the inner city projects and if one is unemployed it might be difficult to scrape up enough money to even get to California or some other agricultural state from Detroit.

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George Rebane

25 August 2015

JoeK 1152pm – Valid concerns. But unemployed people used to go where there was work, and central valley farmers have always provided quarters for their field hands. I believe California has enough young and less skilled/educated people in their urban areas to satisfy our agricultural labor needs. And I hear that some people even come from Mexico to work up here.

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Todd Juvinall

25 August 2015

What were those Okies doing coming here to pick the food in the 30’s? No money but a lot of pride to work.

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

I would seem to me that a black kid raised in the city may not even know where some of the arigulural areas are, not to mention knowing if such places exist. The Cotton Gin changed they way we communicate. Does anybody do share cropping anymore outside of sustainable organic community green plots?
As far a the “normal” term of the farm worker (migrant or not), aka South of the Border workers, they are now landscapers and gardeners for good kind folks in culdesac neighborhoods who pay them way too much. It’s all them busy busy working folks fault that they are too busy to keep up with their yards. Thus fruits rot. It’s all the crackers fault. Boy, whites make my blood boil at times.
And this makes my blood boil as well. Just when I thought I had a good thing going….
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/24/obamacare-cadillac-taxs-secret-threat-to-fsas.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=102942675

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

George R, a kid around these parts stretching a thousand miles east and north would probably opt for working on a ranch, not stooping over in the sweltering flatlands of the Central Valley. An industrious young person who wants to do a bit of seeing what’s over the next mountain would find work as a complete stranger in parts unknown all over the West. But, that was my story so it’s hard to parlay that to what other kids would do to be brutally honest.
Bucked bales in NE WA, cut firewood in Idaho, worked at a hot springs outside Taos, roofed in Portland, worked in Southern Nevada, Kingman, Az, Hawaii, Louisanna (good job), Texas, and a few places I forgot. Oh, loaded freight cars, worked in foundries, washed dishes, etc, during my healing up Forest Gump vagabond days. Thus, I relate to the trimmigrates, one I met from Northern England near the Scottish border and one from Germany, who I originally met when I was traveling through Columbia and Ecuador on vacation staying at young people’s youth hostiles. In the States I have snoozed in many a spot under the trees. See the world by landing temp jobs all over the map, Heck, one of the girls caught my traveling bug and ran out of money down there and got a job tending bar at a Irish Pub in Panama City of all places. That was after doing farm labor on the hillsides in Peru, and working on a boat in The Caribbean . When there is a will there is a way.
But, I can’t expect everyone/anyone else to think like I do/did. Each one of us has to chart our own course in life and that sometimes requires going it alone to places unknown. Never picked berries in Oregon. That’s for kids, lol.

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Walt

25 August 2015

As for “kids” working in the fields,, ” I’m TOO COOL to do that sh**. Why bust my a** is the hot sun when I can sell drugs on the street corner? Besides,, they money is better.”
And with the black attitude these days, how dare someone even mention blake labor in the fields?? That’s racist, and slave talk.

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

Agree, Walt. guess they should go pick cotton or sweep the floors. Here is how I view it. We were an AG country for years. Then the kids started leaving the family farm and heading to Detriot City up north, never to come back to the old cotton fields back home at Grandma’s cabin.
I had an advantage. I had two parents, one being a hard nosed Dad and the other being a sweet gentle spirited Mom. The crux of the problem is that a lot of our black communities and projects were raised solely by the mom who had to be the man and woman of the house. A father’s words to his child is the true legacy he leaves behind. And they were poor cause all of them raised kids on the dole. Not excuses, but maybe the keep your nose to the grindstone, work hard at any job you find, you can find a way to get out of here and work your way up, that kind of stuff.
So, questions posed as to “why” almost have a false premise. We assume that all black kids and all kids will stick out their thumbs and head to the fields as soon as they turn 18.
While it is the gospel truth that a man’s hunger drives him on in labor and sweat and toil, that is a foreign concept to them.
If your mom and grandparents lived off the dole all your life and everybody you knew did, and you had no good male mentors in school daze, then the idea of let’s go where the jobs are may never enter the young bucket of mash.

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Gregory

25 August 2015

It’s more than just the dole, it’s how the dole has been structured. It punishes those who try to work by leaving them with less income than before they began to work even if they keep their new job, there can be significant delays to get back on the dole if needed, and it has punished the family minded by forcing the Dad to leave the house so that baby momma and the kids can get the bennies.
It isn’t just blacks; white illegitimacy are near the black rate when the Moynihan Report first raised the alarm for black familes.
Integrate welfare into the tax structure as Milton Friedman proposed in his negative income tax proposal, lay off hundreds of thousands of Government nannies. Reward work by insuring any work will raise their standard of living.
AND work for a minimum SAT M+V for all certificated K-12 teaching staff. I’d suggest a minimum 900 (that’s a good 180 points below the average score for graduates holding a 4 year degree) and require all K-12 schools receiving public money to reveal the average SAT M+V for certificated staff. Kids in inner city schools can’t hope to acquire the knowledge required to succeed in even a modest college education if their teachers didn’t get it, either.

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fish

25 August 2015

In the “Hey, it’s working great Beav….!” category.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/25/misfire-boston-gun-buyback-program-nets-one-firearm-this-year-n2043604?

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Jon

25 August 2015

“and with the black attitude these days” Walt
Can you elaborate further on your subject of black attitude, Walt? Tell us more.

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Gregory

25 August 2015

Coal. Soros.
“Jon”?

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Walt

25 August 2015

Just watch the news “jon”. Somehow they (most) believe they are OWED something.
Tell ya’ what. Dare you to take a stroll through “their ” community. Day or night.
See how much “#your life matters”. SAC is right down the road.. Do post pictures.
You might just be lucky to “tell us more”.
Ya’ sure have been laying low. Scrubbing your Ashley Madison account?

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Jon

25 August 2015

“Gregory”, what? Coal stocks, if the companies aren’t already bankrupt, are at all time low prices because the growth of coal has come to a screeching halt.
If you’re a successful investor, the lowest of the low is when you buy. You sell when it bounces. Pretty simple. Many others surely buying coal stocks this week. Anything else you need?

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Todd Juvinall

25 August 2015

Gregory as I read “jon’s” answer above it proves he is totally ignorant about coal. And why you asked him the question.

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Don Bessee

25 August 2015

China has changed its tune about its bubble. They have been blaming foreign influences and crooked traders for weeks. Now they say we just don’t understand their growth plan and these adjustments are part of the plan. We shall see how that played in a couple of hours when the markets open.

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Gregory

25 August 2015

Was that really so hard, “Jon”? Why did you keep hiding rather than respond?
Now, for extra credit… is the coal price weakness due to lack of demand or an oversupply on the world markets? You might want to check out our own government’s estimates of coal use, past and future.
And in summary, do you really think Soros is investing millions just to pump and dump on a dead cat bounce before the world gives up on the stuff or might be following his usual investment strategy of buying low and selling very high?

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Walt

25 August 2015

LOL “jonnny”!! Now WHY would coal go back up?? DO TELL!! “O” and CO. and the ECO bastards put the breaks on it’s use. And why would an ECO bastard buy coal in the first place?
“dirty money”. Just which AGW believer is going to get elected President to keep that coal in the ground? LOL!!! Uh,,,, Just what were you saying about “never going back”? Seems the joke is on you.
OK time to let the TROLL answer up.

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Don Bessee

25 August 2015

Rasmussen reports today that 46% of likely voters and even 24% of dems say madam pantsuits should suspend her campaign. So that leaves what? Two 70 something white guys as the flag barer for the dems. lol

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Gregory

25 August 2015

I got a nice chuckle out of reading an old NPR interview of P.J. O’Rourke:
“Mr. O’ROURKE: But yes, I was raised in a very strict Republican family – not so strict with me personally, but just strictly Republican. In fact, so Republican that I remember asking – as a kid about 10, I asked my grandmother, a rock-rib Republican, downstate Illinois grandmother: Whats the difference, Grandma, between Republicans and Democrats?
And she gave me an icy stare, and she said: Democrats rent.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. O’ROURKE: Well, that was it. So Im raised in this environment, and I go off to college. And actually, I became a Communist to meet girls. So I came home at Christmas with my hair down to my shoulders, and a jean jacket with a big, red fist on the back – you know, saying, you know, arise ye proletariat or whatever.
And my grandmother, the same they-rent grandmother, looks at me and she says: Pat, Im worried about you. Are you becoming a Democrat?
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. O’ROURKE: I said, Democrat? Grandma, of course Im not a Democrat. Im a Communist. And my grandmother paused and she said, well, just as long as you’re not a Democrat.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. O’ROURKE: And I never have been. I was a Republican, and I was a Communist, and Im a Republican again. I never have been a Democrat.”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130935014

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Walt

25 August 2015

Uncle Joe needed to get Chairman “O”‘s approval. How long ago was it that Dear Leader thought that Joe’s run wuz a bad idea?
“O” needs to make a phone call to the DOJ pronto to get Hillary indicted to make it look legit.

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

Jon @ 1:35pm, PDT, Planet Earth.
Jon, it is not a black attitude or run the Mexican Flag up the flagpole attitude. It is a friggin Urban Attitude. The machismo, the hood, the turf attitude to gain street cred and demand respect be given, not earned.. Respect me or die, what a concept.
Do you know how many Mexican legal migrates are ashamed and sickened by their countrymen in CA’s urban thunderdomes? Road Warriors on city streets. Same for all the decent black folk who have little to nothing in common with people in the ghetto. Escape from New York was a so so B Movie. Too many rats in the cage. Inner city blacks, whites, dagos, Irish drunks and Heinz 51 gangbangers, have little in common with people who breathe fresh air. Let’s get specific? Chew on those apples.
To be fair and address the bigger picture, I will further add that you personally don’t give all Crackers a bad name. You and your control freaks cohorts do. Yep, Jon, go down to the Urban Plights and kiss their boo-boos.

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

Another day, another dollar. Hear ye, hear ye, beware of the woman with a dark black lifeless evil eye.. What would Drunk Teddy do…..
Walt, did you follow the story of The Donald vs Frank Luntz vs former Trump campaign boss after the debate? Trump call Roger to have Luntz fired and said Frank is a piece of crap. Then the fired campaign manager jumped in and called Frank a “pathetic turd.” Hey, I thought I was the only one to call people turds and stuff.
Guess they have been reading Dr. rebane’s blog. Now Frank has changed his tune and is still shaking from the whole affair.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a37411/gop-pollster-frank-luntz-afraid-of-donald-trump-power/

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Don Bessee

25 August 2015

When was the last time the ‘jon’ spoke to the urban league?

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Bill Tozer

25 August 2015

Sorry dear readers I made yet another grievous error. Omitted the link to the woman with the dark evil lifeless eye, you know. Note to self: no more trying to post multiple links in one post.
http://news.yahoo.com/watchdog-us-ambassador-kennedy-used-private-email-164451187.html

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Walt

25 August 2015

Trump is a street fighter. Call him out for a fight,, expect a swift kick to the nuts.
Someone forgot to wear a cup.
I’m glad he’s on the “Right” side.

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Jon

25 August 2015

Yeah Walt, that approach will always work in world diplomatic circles…
Those bad guys and competing nation leaders are really scared of scary scowls, horrific hairdos and tough talk from famous real estate developers! LOL.

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