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George Rebane

In response to my 7aug15 commentary – ‘Planned (alternative to) Parenthood’ – in The Union, the newspaper’s 15aug15 edition contains two related pieces illuminating the liberal mind from the logically lame to the deliberately deceitful.  The first is a letter to the editor from “Dr Larry and Cheryl Cook” (paywalled here), and the second is an Other Voices commentary (paywalled here) by Ms Kimberly D’Urso, the gratefully aborted president of Nevada County Citizens for Choice.  Regular readers may recall our previous consideration of Ms Cheryl Cook in these pages (here and here).

The Cooks’ critique of my commentary is more than mind boggling.  They take me to task for my “blatantly exclusionary focus on women undergoing abortions”.  Apparently I was remiss in not including a comprehensive treatment of all the mass homicides caused by gun toting lunatics in my 750-word piece on Planned Parenthood that according to their lights attempted to treat “the sanctity of all human life, really?”  Well not quite.


Their letter was actually another screed promoting gun control and confiscation in America, and their desperate logic attempted to connect the 860,000 annual abortion deaths to the tens of annual mass killings by deranged lunatics and dedicated terrorists.  A careful perusal of the letter engenders hope about Dr Larry Cook, that if he works in healthcare, he doesn’t use similar logical constructs to cobble together his patients’ diagnoses and subsequent prescriptions.  About Ms Cheryl Cook, our already stated position continues to serve.

Ms D’Urso’s commentary is a quadruped of a different hue.  She repeats the deceptive pro-PP arguments that have become the de rigueur of abortion apologetics.  The first is the generic progressive proposition that something that government does not pay for is then considered to be prohibited, censored, proscribed, etc by that same government.  Ergo, opposing government funding of abortion is tantamount to supporting the prohibition of abortion in the land.  This deceit has numerous attendant corollaries in the liberal mind that range from specific notions such as ‘opposing women’s healthcare’ to conducting a general ‘war on women’.

Regarding PP, she launches into the deceptive reprise of the organization’s “services” of which 97% are claimed not related to the abortion event (service) itself.  This argument will serve to convince the intellectually compressed and gruberized of the land that an equivalent fraction of PP’s private and public funding is so apportioned, thereby guaranteeing that no federal monies are used to fund abortions per se.  The more informed reader is instantly jolted by this claim when he considers that PP's performing over 330,000 (or 40% of the annual total) abortions in a clinically standard-of-care environment is expensive (consider the insurance alone), and must consume the lion’s share of the PP budget.  And since PP's received income is fungible, federal dollars do indeed fund abortions in their clinics.

The aboveboard solution for PP is simple.  Calve off another organization, say, ‘Planned Abortions Unlimited’, that does nothing but provide clinically safe abortions.  PAU would operate as a charity and be funded only by private sector donations already claimed to fund that service – no government monies will cross its threshold.  Then PAU could abort to its heart’s content and ‘sell’ or otherwise make available body parts galore for research or whatever legal purposes are allowed for such ‘fetal tissues’.

PP itself would then remain pristine of all the guts and gore, and continue to provide all the other women’s health services to which it lays claim.  But methinks the progressives know that such an arrangement would not fly financially; there is not enough charitable funding in America to provide for aborting healthy humans gestating in healthy yet careless women.  However, I do believe that sufficient charitable funding would be available for aborting certain limited categories of women that involve health issues with the mother-to-be and/or the life inside her.  Such abortion clinics could then be run like any other privately funded secular humanist charity.

But the Left, led locally by Ms D’Urso, does not want to recognize the fundamental tenet of our republic’s governance – that government should not fund extra- and/or un-constitutional activities which are repulsive to a large fraction of its citizen taxpayers.  For the likes of D’Urso such funding programs are the sum and stuff of using other people's money to buy votes from the ill-informed and uninformable.  And we all know that it works.

[16aug15 update]  True to form and wholly expected, the comment stream below is replete with liberal histrionics that derive from the primal principle of progressives – (from above) “something that government does not pay for is then considered to be prohibited, censored, proscribed, etc by that same government.”  Their uninformed anguish is real, they sincerely believe that if Planned Parenthood ceases to receive government funding, then women across the land will again be forced to auto-abort with coat hangers, and in the interval have nowhere to turn for other health services they need.  In reality there is no basis for that hysteria.  There are solutions to modifying PP as I outlined above, but more importantly the country is populated with abundant private abortion clinics which perform the service for free or a fee.  And other women’s health services not offering abortions abound.  Here are three right here in Nevada County.

-        Western Sierra Medical Clinic, 844 Old Tunnel Rd, GV; 530-274-9762

-        Sierra Family Medical Clinic, 15301 Tyler-Foote Rd, NC; 530-292-3478

-        Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital, GV; Barbara Schmidt Millar Memorial Fund, a 501c3, and other charities provide the hospital funds for women’s health services including mammograms.

Finally, the feds themselves now promise to provide women’s health services through Obamacare’s expansion of Medicaid (here MediCal) as another alternative to PP.

Meanwhile, I’m told by correspondents, that certain local leftwing cretins’ reading of the above piece has raised their ire sufficiently to call me and conservative RR readers “misogynists” for daring to suggest that abortion is not universally embraced in America, and that such procedures should not be funded by government because of their extra-constitutionality and opposition by a large fraction of Americans.  For those who may have forgotten, misogynist is “a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.”

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119 responses to “Liberally Liberal Abortions Revisited (updated 16aug15)”

  1. George Rebane Avatar

    re GeorgeB’s 120pm – Such an early term abortion would be justified IMHO. To put an 11-year-old through a full term pregnancy that results in a baby whose life will become a perpetual reminder of the horrific act of his progenation, is beyond the pale. Were I king, I would also concurrently abort the rapist father.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    You have things wrong here. Show me any evidence that abortions are justified to produce material for medical research? I know of no groups or individuals that advocate that position. Is that what you are implying when you write of “salutary justification of snuffing out human life”
    Can you explain in more detail what you meant by that statement to clarify your position in my mind because that’s what it looks like to me.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, my understanding is Ben Carson used tissue from the sources cited above. He stated he never used the babies as you said.
    GeorgeB., OK, so Huckabee made a decision you disagree with. To ask all other candidates if they agree or disagree is BS. If you insist on that criteria, then how about you and your ilk asking Bernie and Hillary why they support late term abortions when the baby is on its way out. Besides I would suggest the killing of millions of black baies might be the reason PP exists. Margaret Sanger said so.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    “My understanding” means what Todd? How can you surmise that based on Dr Carsons own words that:
    “”We have banked material in the pathology lab from people from every age — from day 1 of concept to 120 years told. Those specimens are available for people who want to do comparisons,” Carson said. “To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?”
    If y ou have some other source to counter that rather specific statement let us know.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd
    What does “regardless of where it came from” mean to you?

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 0311pm – We all know that whenever any conservative agent/agency does ANYTHING, no matter how remote from the profit motive, if that agent/agency has any money changing hands with regard to that ANYTHING, every liberal within howling distance will howl that the act was done for money. I rest my case.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George 3:52
    what does that have to do with our discussion? You aseem to be accusations that abortions are being performed for profit from the sale of tissue which in my view is an astounding assumption. I just asked for more clarification if possible. If not things will stand on their own as an unsubstantiated assumption.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, it’s clear they are profiting from the sale of fetal body parts and are adopting “less crunchy” methods that might not be in the best interests of the mother-to-not-be.
    It’s unclear to me how an “intact fetal cadaver” is delivered by an abortionist and it’s not hard to imagine it might not have been a cadaver when removed from Mom. Somebody wants a Lamborghini.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 408pm – Correctemundo Paul!! They do indeed stand as “unsubstantiated assumptions” as do thousands of similar assumptions from your side of the aisle – exactly so! we are making progress. For example, I don’t know what the logic is for the placement of so many PP’s in and around black neighborhoods. But until more evidence comes in, Dr Carson’s current assessment of their placement viz the ‘services’ they provide is the most plausible one given, and will stand no matter how politically incorrect it may seem to sensitive progressive ears.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery feigns ignorance on the “profit” motive of PP. Of course he knows from the videos they are selling these babies and their parts. Dr. Carson received naturally aborted, ectopic pregnancy and other natural expulsions from the womb. He did not receive aborted babies taken for profit. But Paul Emery knows that.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Oh and “where it came from”? Paul Emery, my wife had a ectopic pregnancy and it was aborted by her own body. Women are mentally affected by those just as they are a true doctor assisted abortion.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George what is Dr. Carson’s current assessment of the placement of Planned Parenthood facilities ? Perhaps I missed it but it doesn’t seem to be in this post
    Todd once again can you share with me the source of your information as to the nature of the tissue that Dr. Carson referring to I see nothing about that in his quotes Did you make it up or is it just your wishful thinking

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, I never make anything up as you do it all the time. Ben Carson was interviewed by the lamesdtreams and you can probably search and find it. It was last week.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I googled it with no results Todd that verified your review I think you made it up just give it a go and show me your reference that’s all you have to do.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 753pm – Dr Carson’s statements on PP locations is national news and subsequent to this post. Now even lamestream outfits like ABC are attacking him on it, as reported by none less than Media Matters. Here’s one report and the liberal counterattack –
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/13/proof-ben-carson-is-right-about-planned-parenthood-targeting-black-neighborhoods/
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/16/abcs-martha-raddatz-debunks-ben-carsons-claim-t/204954
    Paul, I strongly recommend that you totally re-evaluate your news sources. Your job demands more; I’m just a humble backwoods blogger but what I read and comment on seems to totally overlap what the local Left, en masse, is capable of gathering. These comment streams attest to that, especially in the number of their cricket responses.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    So you googled it and nothing comes up eh Paul Emery? Sorry, you must be a computer ignoramus.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The latest video sheds some light on the “intact fetal cadavers” at Planned Parenthood
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/planned-parenthood-whistleblower-heart-of-aborted-fetus-was-still-beating/article/2570461

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 149pm – Good find. IMHO this video sheds all needed light on questions of what is being extracted when, and who at PP is selling what parts to whom. It especially should address the liberal claims that selling body parts was not condoned by PP executives, but was only carried out as some rogue operation by lower level employees.

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