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To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. – Charles Krauthammer

George Rebane

Students of American history agree that President Lincoln was the prime instigator of federalism’s decline and the growth of Washington’s power over our land and lives.  That the times called for such a reorientation of our body politic is still being debated, but the assumption of the path to collectivism is today denied only by those most ardently at work who promote progress on that same path.


Prior to our misnamed Civil War, America was a more or less cohesive society as far as governance was concerned.  Washington affected little of what went on in the states and counties, and even in the territories – of course, transportation and communication technologies of the times had a lot to do with that.  Visitors to our land observed, spoke, and wrote of the marvelous local control of their lives that was maintained by that cohesive and copasetic population.  The only apparent fly in the ointment was slavery, but ultimately that was enough to rend the country which required the first modern continental war to stitch it back together into a form in which all the pieces have still not knit correctly.  And that itself gave rise to many people looking for Washington to keep applying more stitches in an attempt to recreate a cohesive but now compliantly conformable country.

That such a direction was for the benefit of society took strong root in Europe after the French Revolution.  By mid-19th century political philosophers (e.g. Marx, Bastiat) were in full debate over the benefits and faults of collective vs liberal governance.  And by the end of that century organized movements toward what we may call popular or democratic collectivism, anticipating a global scale, were in full swing contributing much to the angst of strong authoritarian central governments.  For the first time in history, the common man was taught and came to believe that he was due a much larger share of his nation’s wealth, and perhaps even the wealth of neighboring nations.  In the 20th century we witnessed the deaths of nearly half a billion people in the quest by sovereign nation-states to emplace and exercise collective power over individuals.

After WW2 the world shattered into more sovereign nations, which number again multiplied after Soviet communism collapsed as the last century ended with America as the world’s unquestioned leading hegemon.  But in the last twenty-five years that fragmentation has stopped and movements are afoot to again accrete territories by force so as to again create large global hegemons.  Curiously in this process America has donned the heavy Mantle of Past Sins, and is doing everything possible to rapidly become the last among equals while choosing the now obvious policy of leading from behind – which is to say, not leading at all.  And as that beat goes on, it continues to divide us into cohorts that wish America to become a compliant global citizen – a 'peer among peers' – and those who wish America to remain the exceptional sovereign nation-state and beacon of benevolent governance that it has been for the last two centuries.

However, as I have attempted to make the case here for some years now, such a future for us as a strong Westphalian state is becoming less likely with every passing year.  Ever since the late 1940s, when the American socialists folded their party in favor of the Democrats, our political center of gravity has been moving steadily leftward.  The overwhelming cause of this has been the ideological course of the progressives (cum socialists), now fully in charge of the Democratic Party, but also the contributing come-along compliance of the Republican leadership, ever willing to trade principle for propitious polling.  One can and I still do argue that the Right has not moved leftward nearly as far as has the Left in our country.  But given the astute assumption of control over public service (government and education) unions by the Left, the electorate has become appropriately gruberized (a most timely label to describe the aggregate intellect) during the span of the last two generations.  Most all of us look to Washington for some part of our daily maintenance and quality of life.  And our local political leaders are today more facile than ever in convincing us that there is no hope for halting the growth of Leviathan; all we can do is pop an occasional palliative by passing a proposition or initiative expressing our will to be overturned later by the courts.  Best to go along to get along, and get used to it.

I was talking to the wife of a prominent leader in local government last night.  She is an educated working woman like so many today who proudly announce their disdain for politics and things political.  I asked her how she informed herself in order to vote, and she answered that just before the election she reads the online editions of the nation’s popular news magazines  – “Time, Newsweek, and US News”.  In the interval, the lady manages her daily affairs which include volunteering in community organizations that all bend leftward.  And she is typical - there are so many of such good people who give no thought to how in such organizations they are constantly bathed in an ideology that not only successfully resists examination, but also does not reveal its presence, while the organizations resolutely maintain that they are apolitical.

A correspondent alerted me to a recent piece by Joel Kotkin – ‘More local decisions usurped by ideological regulators’ – that focuses on a corroborating aspect of the above commentary.  In it he writes –

Nothing is more basic to the American identity than leaving basic control of daily life to local communities and, as much as is practical, to individuals. The rising new regulatory regime seeks decisively to change that equation. To be sure, there is a need for some degree of regulation, notably for basic health and public safety, as well as maintaining and expanding schools, parks, bikeways and tree-planting, things done best when supported by local voters. … But the current regulatory wave goes well beyond traditional methodology. It reflects policies more akin to those central planners, who, as Chapman University researcher Alicia Kurimska suggests, dominated city planning in the once-massive Soviet bloc.

Kotkin’s essay is worth a read and reflection.

[update]  Given Trump's popularity before the debate, and his improved post-debate poll numbers now being released, I think it's important to bring up a long-held perception by local progressives (you know, the ones glued to MSNBC).  These neighbors have been denigrating our right-leaning commenters and your humble commentator for years as having fastened on to a sclerotic, closely held, and rare view of what has happened to our country and the direction on which it is currently hell bent.  In this we have gone to considerable lengths outlining our intense dissatisfaction with the direction Washington is taking us, and by imitation where Sacramento has similarly betrayed California.

Well, the Trump phenomenon has now put to rest the gross ignorance and baseless accusations that our views are those of out-of-touch angry curmudgeons stuck in some never-was past.  It turns out that there are tens of millions of our fellow Americans who share our disquieting assessments.  And so the question remains, who has been out of touch with the beliefs, attitudes, and experiences of a major cohort of Americans.  Will there be a mea culpa in the works?  Nah, not even close.  In light of how the other side thinks and reasons, none of this will impact their worldview one iota – bet on it, since their lamestream is already leading the way.

[11aug15 update]  Jo Ann and I attended Congressman Doug LaMalfa’s town hall meeting in GV City Council chambers this afternoon.  The seats were pretty much full of people deciding to spend a beautiful day listening to and talking with their MoC.  It turned out that, led by Nevada County Democratic Party Chairman Jim Firth, the hall was pretty much a get together of liberals.  In their turn they were surprised to see the congressman in Nevada County, and expressed their appreciation of the fact and their ability to talk to him in person.  That was the first hint of how out of touch those neighbors were with even local happenings.  LaMalfa is a regular presence in our county, and his visits are regularly announced in The Union and on KNCO.  Were I more focused on local issues, I would throw RR into that group, but alas, I have been remiss.

It was to be a two hour meeting – 230 to 430pm – but we were able to last until only 4pm when we quietly departed with severely bitten tongues.  It has been quite some time since I heard from so many ill-informed, and some just plain stupid, people all gathered in one room.

LaMalfa started the meeting with a review of salient points concerning the Iran deal, NorCal forest management and water issues (focusing on the proposed Bear River dam), and ‘climate change’.  That took only about 30 minutes and then he opened the floor to questions – hands sprung up like a field of weeds after an early spring rain.  The questions came from blatantly hard left neighbors, each wanting to make a speech about their heartfelt issue before a question on the topic could be pried out of them.  They all bared their worldviews and their strong indelible truths.  Could we have kept track, literally every progressive shibboleth, sound bite, and talking point was voiced.  And each person believed more firmly than the last that his recital contained God’s own truth (or the secular humanist’s moral equivalent of that).

The congressman kept his cool – no doubt having been through this kind of wringer before – and quietly, if not with some generous meandering, answered their various outrages.  Some of the more intense leftwingers reached their tolerance thresholds when they saw that they could not elicit a rise out of LaMalfa.  Individually and in small groups they began leaving the hall, some shouting that they had never heard such utter lies and propaganda before from a public official.  For them the debate was clearly over on more than just man-made global warming.

What struck me from their monologues, especially when they quoted purported facts, was how little they had read or been exposed to anything other than the emotional reports from their favorite priests.  Their voiced reasonings were twisted beyond comprehension, so much that I had to start thinking that this turnout was a biased sample that Mr Firth had somehow assembled for this afternoon.  These people could not be representative of the population of local Democrats, this had to be a particularly deprived assemblage.  But then again …

Finally, noting the absence of air sickness bags in the seat backs and still wanting to maintain decorum, we were forced to take a rather hasty leave after one poor lady launched into a tirade about the jails being filled with women arrested for killing their male partners because they were locked in abusive relationships which offered no other exit.  So this was our most recent exposure to the people who make our county politically ‘purple’.  God help us every one.

[12aug15 update]  Speaking of the looney left at yesterday's meeting, a correspondent who also attended sent me the following email – "I attended the LaMalfa townhall yesterday.  A little bit into the meeting, a person behind me started shouting at LaMalfa and calling him a propagandist etc.  The person sounded like a loon!  Screeching loudly as they left.  I did not turn around and so I did not know what the person looked like.  Now I read in the Union this morning it was Linda Campbell.  Honestly, this woman is on the school board?  She is nuts!  (she also sounded like a male voice as well)"  Ms Campbell has already left her unique mark on our community and in these pages (here).

 

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157 responses to “How the gulf between us widens (updated 12aug15)”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sounds like the evolved Democratic Party to me:
    http://www.cpusa.org/tactics-and-the-2016-elections/

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  2. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    “Will there be a mea culpa in the works?”
    I am all with you George…nominate Trump see what happens.
    I can’t wait.

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  3. Russ Avatar

    As for the stupidity of liberals, our Governor is the poster boy for stupidity, blaming the California drought and dangerous wildfires on “climate change.” [Note: in liberal speak, climate change means anthropogenic global warming]
    The Daily Journal quotes Brown saying:
    “This is a wakeup call,” Brown said standing in front of a scorched hillside at the FireCowboy Camp Trailhead a few miles outside of Lake County. “California is burning,” boldly asking politicians, “What the hell are you going to do about it?”
    ‘He attributed the now four-year drought California faces to the extreme weather conditions brought by climate change, an issue he’s recently had on his agenda.
    He told reporters “This is not a game of politics. We need to limit our carbon pollution. These are real lives and real people,” adding, “We need to make major changes in the way we operate.”

    My question for the Governor, how is this drought different from all the past droughts that state has suffered, six years in the 1930s and 13 years in the early 1800 during the Dalton Minimum.
    Through studies of tree rings, sediment and other natural evidence, researchers have documented multiple droughts in California that lasted 10 or 20 years in a row during the past 1,000 years — compared to the mere three-year duration of the current dry spell. The two most severe megadroughts make the Dust Bowl of the 1930s look tame: a 240-year-long drought that started in 850 and, 50 years after the conclusion of that one, another that stretched at least 180 years. (Mercury News)
    I guess the Governor does not read the Mercury News, nor the history of drought in the West. These are natural occurring droughts that have happened through out the last 1,000 years. Only stupid liberal could claim that this one is unique and is caused by human CO2 emissions. All the past droughts were part of a natural cycle, how is this one different? To get out of the stupid box the Governor needs show us his evidence that this drought is unique and is just not part of a natural cycle.
    Perhaps, some of our liberal readers can help Governor Brown get out of the stupid box.

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    StevenF 906pm – I have already declared my thoughts about Trump’s impact on GOP chances in 2016. Even though he has evoked the anger and frustration of many Americans (as expanded here over the years), he can only harm the GOP the longer he thinks that his candidacy is viable either in the GOP or a third party. My hope is that Trump’s messages will be picked up by the other candidates, appropriately modified for delivery, and then be included in the party’s platform as Trump gracefully withdraws because his mission has been accepted by the GOP. I know that is a pretty farfetched wish given Trump’s numbers today, but I believe many other frustrated conservatives share that wish.
    And on your side Democrats are already biting their nails hoping that Hillary will not implode, and leaving Bernie to carry the day. Now there would be a match-up Trump v Sanders.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well Dr. Rebane and Mr. Frisch, Bernie has what the Carter Campaign called Big Mo. Once you get Big Mo, it takes on a life of its own no matter what our preferences are. First report was Bernie drew 19,000 in the relatively small big city Portland. News this morning put the Portland crowd at 28,000, as he flew to LA. Sure, he is diving into the heart of West Coast friendly socialism, but one has to why he skipped SF? Maybe he did not want to take BART, but I digress. Oh, I almost forgot. Big Mo is momentum. Bernie has it, Hillary don’t. Trump debates Sanders? Sanders debates Trump? The gentleman vs the bull in the China shop. That is a political junkie’s wet dream. Reality TV revival. Go Dems. You need all the help you can get, especially if Hillary takes it all the way to The White House. Reality check time:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=518087971674281&set=p.518087971674281&type=1&theater

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Sanders can’t even control his own stump speech, and get’s over run by some self riotous
    Blacks. Where the hell was his security detail to allow that to happen? ( and he expects us to believe he would protect the nation.. uh,,, NOoooo)
    Hillary is still dodging questions as usual, and sucking donors (uh),,, money.
    In any debate Trump would make them look pitiful. Hummm Think Bill’s stable of tramps would come up? If Hillary’s does get elected, will Bill be limited to just one every other night?
    Yup Just what we want to see from the first swinging dick of the Nation.
    Will Hillary get even? GOD help the male interns in the Oval office. Even the young guys would be force fed Viagra to get then job done.( yes the things one must do to serve their country)
    First debate question from FOX?
    As for Jebb,, He’s got PLENTY of history working for LIBS, yet has the brass ones to bring up Trump’s. The Same goes for Rubio as a member of the “gang of 8″. Stabbing fellow Repubs in the back on Immigration.
    As the good book says,, ” He who is without sin,, cast the first stone.”
    LOL Steve,, Trump is your worst nightmare. Seems he’s picked up some of the Blake vote, as well as latino. He’s robbing the LIBS of constituents.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    I guess the Governor does not read the Mercury News, nor the history of drought in the West. These are natural occurring droughts that have happened through out the last 1,000 years. Only stupid liberal could claim that this one is unique and is caused by human CO2 emissions. All the past droughts were part of a natural cycle, how is this one different? To get out of the stupid box the Governor needs show us his evidence that this drought is unique and is just not part of a natural cycle.
    Perhaps, some of our liberal readers can help Governor Brown get out of the stupid box.

    “Only stupid liberal could claim that this one is unique and is caused by human CO2 emissions.”
    Only stupid liberal could claim believe that this one is unique and is caused by human CO2 emissions.
    Only stupid liberal smart venal chameleon of a California governor could claim that this one is unique and is caused by human CO2 emissions.
    The “Stupid Liberal” will believe that he’s going to save the world by driving his Toyota Pius when Chindia adds a coal fired power plant about every 5 days. The “Smart Politician” knows this but salivates over the last big bore revenue stream potentially available to usher in their glorious “Radiant Progressive Future”.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    It is all about how far the left can push on a issue before they cause a Revolution. California is the world’s experiment on that fiction of “global warming”. It was as predicted by many of us twenty years ago., A political ploy to control. Control down to the carbon atoms in your body. So far the lemmings in California are buying the hoax and the world is watching. If they can keep it going, the petri dish of California will become accepted everywhere.
    Aren’t you all proud to be the leaders?

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  9. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    You’re right todd. They’re using everything to confuse and divide to cause a revolution to destroy and equalize America with all the nation’s in the new world order. You don’t do this in any family, community or country except to destroy unity, strength, peace and prosperity.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Darn Walt, finally, finally listened to 2 minutes of Trump interviews.
    Women of all colors are warming up to Trump daily. I think they like talking about what no other politician from either side of the aisle is doing. That is, talking about the elephant in the room. When asked what he would do for the black community, he said hire more cops. That must have gotten the good black and Latino mothers off their chairs to stand up and cheer. No more lying shiftless men that say they love them and then leave. Trump will send in more cops to make them more secure, the neighborhoods safer. Maybe get rid of some hoodlums hanging about. And they all know Donald knows how to treat a lady and keep them in diamonds. Finally a dude that says Ametica First, we can’t be running around the globe taking care of tiny low priority peanuts like Greece. Let the EU take care of it. Iran? Double the sanctions and this whole deal can be done in a day. Trump knows how to take care of a woman and they are more than willing to overlook any rough edges. In fact, women like his rough edges. They know he won’t BS them.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    The attack on Trump by FOX sure didn’t go over well.
    “Immediately following Thursday’s debate, Fox was deluged with pro-Trump emails. The chatter on Twitter was equally in Trump’s favor. “In the beginning, virtually 100 percent of the emails were against Megyn Kelly,” one Fox source, who was briefed on the situation, told me. “Roger was not happy. Most of the Fox viewers were taking Trump’s side.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/11/report-drudge-breitbart-audiences-support-of-donald-trump-caused-rare-moment-of-weakness-for-fox-news/
    Seems FOX got the message.

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    TWEET OF THE DAY: “The earnestly naive Bernie Sanders is who the Democratic party wants to be. The corrupt and venal Hillary Clinton is who they are.”
    This election just give yourself over to it….screw voting for the lesser of two evils…..that never works! This time jump into the greater of two evils with both feet!
    I have….and it feels great!
    Hillary 2016: The Greater Evil

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    NOT JUST EVIL SUPER DUPER EXTRA EVIL WITH A HEFTY DOLLP OF IRONIC EVIL SAUCE ON TOP OF A HEAPING STACK OF EVIL……EVIL!!!!!
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/12/hillary-clinton-sanctity-protecting-classified-information/
    Even I’m impressed at the chutzpah Hill brings to the table!
    Hillary 2016: The Greatest Evil

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  14. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Here is another reason why the gap widens, hypocrisy!
    In the “ Scott Walker: austerity really works” department: Walker backed and signed legislation giving as much as $400m in tax payer money to the owners of the Bucks for a new arena despite criticism from fellow conservatives. Typical of most arena deals, the Bucks threatened to leave without government assistance. Earlier in his career in 1995, Walker raised sales taxes in Milwaukee to build a new ball park for the Brewers. Set to sunset in 2010, the tax will remain in effect until around 2020 because the revenue projections were overstated and the bonds have yet to be paid off, more proof that austerity works, especially for billionaires. Very few arenas have ever lived up to the economic revitalization hype used to gain public approval. After all, it’s only fair that working people face lower benefits and wages and increased taxes to finance billionaire’s arenas: in Walker World. Just think of what he will do for America.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    You mean like your pal Mayor Kevin Johnson in Sacramento? You are the hypocrite party. Democrats take from the mouths of the poor they say they care about and give it to the King’s foreign owner to build the new arena. No JoeK, it is your ilk that are the hypocrites.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Grumpy Joey K is back and being his usual billionaire hating self. Hey, grumpy Joey, I am sorry you live in the State with the highest gas prices in the nation. Kind of eats into disposable income you have left over from your long commute to your crappy day job. Never in my life could I ever have dared to dream that gas would be higher in CA than Honolulu. We are number one!
    Yep, it’s all the billionaires’ fault for your miserable existence. Then you die. Best have one drink of scotch, two drinks of gin, and get lost in the grumpyland again. Legal heroin booze is. Opiates for the pathetic masses. But, it ain’t cheap, so best stick to sniffing glue from your dirty socks. Have a good one, a real good one. Too hip, gotta get over to Redneck Alley. That is where the smiles are, grumps.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    WOW Joe,,, Bitch about revitalization funds getting pissed away? Let me help you look a little closer to home. That miserable excuse for “art” in the middle of the roundabout.
    50 grand went to a pile of rusty iron and railroad ties.
    Thank the GV LIBS.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Walt, I must be the only one that likes the rustic look. I find A couple of spins around the scrap pile harkens to a more romantic period myself. But, but but, 50 families could have been housed (not fed and clothed) and have the lights turned on for a month before they get kicked out onto the streets again. That would have been a waste of good money. Or, good money chasing bad. Nothing to show for it.
    Our leaders were wiser than that. We have public art that has stood for 3 or 4 years now. Besides, Truckee has a round-dee-bout and we all know how upscale and evolved that wind sweep tundra region has become. That public art display of rusty steam engine parts and busted up lawn tractors is actually a celebration of the Chinamen and Redskins that enriched our Elizabethian History. It’s not a pile of junk, Walt , it’s public art. Like hanging old Aunt Petunia on the wall and pinning a sign on her saying “The Maidu were not here first.” Art, like knowledge, is sort of a good thang.
    But now the gulf has widened between us. Alas.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    I better fire up the BBQ and get my hands on some crow. A special cookout just for our LIB friends. Trump is doing better and better, Hillary is closer to the big house than the White House. Col. Sanders can’t even protect his own podiam from a couple of uppity street rats. Our LIBS predictions sound like they came from some 1-900 fortune teller line.
    It’s good to see Carson gaining ground.
    Yup the people are done with politicians.

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Can we start an effort to repeal the development tax for art projects in this time of need?

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  21. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “Grumpy Joey K is back and being his usual billionaire hating self.”– Hey, give me a break, there is a lot to hate there and if you want to praise and support greed that is your business.. and what does gas prices in Ca have to do with arena deals that are bad for the public, Sacramento included. Oh, and Todd, I’ve never met Kevin Johnson, so he’s not my pal and I am not a democrat, so you constant characterization of me as one is, as are most of your comments, totally without merit.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    So you are a what JoeK? A commie? Your pal Kevin Johnson is doing the same things as you claimed your enemy Scott Walker did. Yet crickets for Johnson. You libs are just too easy.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Joe Koyote | 13 August 2015 at 08:45 AM
    Joe on the off chance you didn’t see it when I posted it, were you going to give some thought to informing the board what you used to do for a living? As mentioned you can be as vague as you need to be. Since you weren’t a state employee……(public/private/business owner, type of industry or business, etc.) I’m just curious what brought you down the hill every day?

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  24. Walt Avatar

    Wow… Gotta think about it??? Kind of like Hillary turning over that server.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 1150am – ??????

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Oh,,, Sorryy…..
    “were you going to give some thought to informing the board what you used to do for a living?”
    Blame it on the meds I’m still on from oral surgery. It was time to buy a “new grill”….

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sorry Joe K for busting your balls AND adding to the constant tension, turmoil, frustration, and chaos from whence you dwell ever since your blessed miracle birth. I do hate to step on a man when he is down, but darn it Joe, you are always down. Is that Screaming cracker Hater of all things white Curtis Walker your twin or what?
    Of course Todd mischaracterized you as a Dem. No way, Jose. You be one of those Occupy Wall Street types, not the old Democratic Party members that brought such wealth and prosperity to our charming urban rat cages. No, you be an old fashioned libbie, pissed with every breath that all those billions of tax dollars and that pile of gold coins Mc Scrooge has be growing and growing and growing still haven’t found a way into your pockets. Maybe if you stich up those Swiss Cheese hole ridden pockets, you might have two nickels to rub together in your golden years. Sure, it will interfere with your daily games of pocket pool,. Just take two Progressive Seltzers and wake up feeling yourself.
    Nope, you be a rose by a different name alright, not a Dem.. Just read the whole link which is in the very first comment posted on this thread. Commie, liberal, Hillary gangsta progressive, and no guns. It’s called The American Communist Party.
    What’s that old JJ. Cale song? You take Betty, I’ll take Sue, ain’t much difference between the two, cocaine swimming around my brain. But, the latest version is you take a libbowel, I’ll that Fidel, ain’t much difference between the two.
    Oh those Capitalist pig billionaires always swimming around your fried brain. Oh Joe, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    There is no such thing as a “Democrat” anymore.( of the JFK DNA) Nope those days are gone, and so is that thinking. Just like Republican just ain’t what it used to be. ( Grew up in a political Repub household) Nope,, this isn’t my Daddy’s GOP. Hence the rise of the Tea Party. ( Old school GOP thinking) Today,, a card carrying Repub. is LIB lite. Need proof?
    Look at Congress, and how they vote.
    Today’s so called Dem, does Putin proud, and the needle bending Left give Moe a woody.
    Note to Joe.. There will always be the “haves,, and have nots”. There is no “Robinhood”
    in politics. Did you get your Obamaphone? Did “O” take from George’s pocket just to give it to you? And it’s NOT going to happen.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Students of literature may recall that Robin Hood stole from the filthy rich evil agent of The Gobberment, who was lining his pockets as well by stealing from the commoners. So unjust, so unfair. That agent of the Gobberment was called the Sheriff of Nottingham who could beckon the full force of the King’s Army anytime his majesty needed some more payola. “Taxed Enough Already?” “Never enough” replied the Crown.
    Walt, so you done got yourself some new monkey chops, eh. Hurts, don’t it. I don’t feel a thing from here. Want me to come over a play some honkytonk foot stomping musak on those new pearly whites? can you dig it? Well, hope you feel better in a few weeks. In the meantime, you can always chew the fat.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    OH… Your a barrel of laughs.. I decided to forgo the one gold tooth. Too flashy,,, and I don’t need my kids sifting my ashes down by the creek looking for that big score.

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  31. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    fish-Joe on the off chance you didn’t see it when I posted it, were you going to give some thought to informing the board what you used to do for a living? —
    I saw it and it’s really none of your business. And when you asked you used the exact same wording as the last time you asked that very same question during the gas guzzler conversation with Todd.. is this out of some blogger’s handbook or something?

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    No Joe….I was just curious? Had you said no last time I wouldn’t have repeated the request.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    …. is this out of some blogger’s handbook or something?
    I thought the “progressive left” wasn’t so prone to paranoia?

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    He is a union organizer.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 August 2015 at 09:50 AM
    Really?

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Joe.. Is it that embarrassing of a job title? I’m just your every day ditch digger, and proud of it. It pays the bills. But give me the proper equipment, I can make shit run uphill.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 August 2015 at 09:50 AM
    The reason I asked was that I rarely see some one as ardently and reflexively defensive of government employment as Joe. It made sense if he had indeed been an state employee…it still makes a little sense if he’s an SEIU type.
    Speaking as someone living off the government tit (even indirectly) I can say that had this been twenty years ago I probably would have fallen firmly into the Joe/Steve/Michael camp of “circle the wagons” when it comes to anything government!
    Having seen it in operation personally the scales have fallen from my eyes!

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    Todd Juvinall

    He might be Doug Keachie.

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    Bill Tozer

    He might be a forme State Employees Union big wig. With the masses dropping union membership like a bad habit, it would put anyone on the dark side of the street in a foul mood for sure. The new much of employees are organized all right….organized against having money taken from their pay checks. Like public education, the unions are about keeping the head honchos in the land of milk and honey instead of looking out for the little guys.
    Knew a guy that was a Big Kahuna in the Sac public employee extortionist bunch. Lived up off Hughes in that development…Crypress Hill. Too many old white crackers up there for my tastes.

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    Gregory

    How many non-progressives will there be at the last Farm-to-table feast in Nevada City this evening? Ms. Senum has apparently announced she won’t be doing it again. How sustainable is a $106 a plate meal?
    The festivities start at 6:30, serving begins at 7PM. Jeff Pelline will be there to pose for photographs, sign autographs, and eat every locally grown morsel placed before him. There are some seats for those unfortunates who don’t have $425 to buy dinner for their family of four from a true champion of the downtrodden in Nevada City, so the unwashed should not shy away from their downtown just because a former mayor has custody for the evening.
    There will be a prize for the most unflattering FUE image.

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    Todd Juvinall

    Gregory, that is sooo funny! Good one. I was looking to see if Friar Tuck’s was one of the vendors but it appears they are not. Greg Cook’s biz may just be too successful.
    Here is hoping to see the huge one’s current pic.

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    fish

    stevefrisch says:
    August 16, 2015 at 9:26 am
    Oh for heavens sake, satire is satire, and the anonymity of it is what makes the entire Scooper a satire on Nevada County itself.
    He doesn’t understand anonymity Steve. “Naming and Shaming” is what the Louella Parsons of the Sierra Foothills live for.

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    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: fish | 16 August 2015 at 09:42 AM
    Don’t you get it Fish, the Scooper is satirizing people for hiding behind the fig leaf of anonymity to say whatever you are going to say then putting on a the mask of civility to be a ‘part of the community’. The joke is that if you’re an anonymous asshole you really can’t hide the fact that you are asshole when you remove the mask.

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    fish

    Oh no I get it just fine! I’m merely enjoying the fact that Louella is incapable of that. Another case of “Concern troll is concerned”!
    Marvelous!

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    As I see it,, The Scooper has more credibility than a certain poster with potty mouth.
    Speaking of satire, all those laws and regs on AGW are doing great. But it sure is able to line someone’s pockets with fear money.

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    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 16 August 2015 at 12:17 PM
    I will take profane speech over profane beliefs any day.

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    LOL!! Believing in AGW IS “profane”. So is begging for money in the name of it.

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    Bill Tozer

    Oh Fish, now I get it. Like the time I asked you why you go to Barney the Purple Dinosaur’s site and you replied it was a unwise quirk as in pulling a scab off. Or was it opening the grade school science project jar of stink you had in your closet, knowing full well not to open the lid but doing it anyway. A weak moment of “I know better but just can’t help myself”
    I went over there myself, deep in the heart of enemy terrority. I wore a string of garlic around my neck and checked it out.
    Boy, he must have been on another “one glass of wine” bender last week. Mad at PHDs over here and in the Nevada City’s mayoral chair. Mad at NC Scooper, mad at George B, mad at Fish, Todd, and the group of you extremists. Mad at copying and pasting. Why am I always left off the list? It’s a bloody mystery I tell ya.
    I personally like the Scooper. Or as I fondly call it within myself, The Pooper Scooper. Plus, when they have quoted me, they do it right. No paraphrasing, no editing, they get every single syllable correct and exactly as I spewed forth. I like that and appreciate their accuracy. Now, why would Barney have anything bad to say about them or The Fish or cottage rentals that attract his beloved tourists with mula?. They all can’t stay at the KOA and besides, we don’t have a KOA here anyway. Nor much of a cheap place to crash, flop, or dwell for a longer period of time. Slim pickins for our downtrodden and struggling working poor. Good solution to most, except the Nevada City old guard like Barney the Purple. Not in his backyard!! You will have to pry that rib from his cold dead hands.
    Oh Boy, first it was the kangaroo and gator jerky, then the mayor having a Phd along with the good doc, then low income housing in his neck of the woods (gasp!). Not to mention the NC Scooper. That is what I call a bad week, but that was in the past. It’s a new day, but I cannot help but think it must have been one awful heck of a drunk he went on. Glad he has sobered up with the ole standby ice pack on his head.
    In related news, Sesame Strret will switch to a half hour format and next season will air on HBO (exclusively so those that have pay TV can view it). All is not lost for Public Broadcasting. Episodes of Kermit and Miss Piggy and The Grouch wiill be seen on PBS….nine months later when HBO cleans out their files.

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    fish

    ike the time I asked you why you go to Barney the Purple Dinosaur’s site and you replied it was a unwise quirk as in pulling a scab off. Or was it opening the grade school science project jar of stink you had in your closet, knowing full well not to open the lid but doing it anyway. A weak moment of “I know better but just can’t help myself”
    Yeah…pretty well described William.

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  50. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I just saw the “cap and trade” fund has a couple of billion bucks in it and the government doesn’t know where to spend it. Look at your PG and E bill. Maybe a credit to the poor saps that paid it?

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