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Sandbox – 10jul15

10 July 2015

[Hopefully the Donald Trump dust-up will work itself out in 3jul15 sandbox, and this one can expand on the new thread of illegal aliens and states rights. But it's only a hope. gjr]

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206 responses to “Sandbox – 10jul15”

George Boardman

13 July 2015

Did Johnson ever use the “N” word? Probably. He grew up in segregated Texas and was a man of his times.
Did he use the word in the context suggested by Kessler, 30 years after the fact? Highly questionable. I’m guessing he got the “quote” from at least a second, and probably a third or fourth-hand source.

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Paul Emery

13 July 2015

Trump could be the Ross Perot of 2016. Like Ross he certainly has the ego for it and is somewhat of a similar business tycoon that can fund his own way. The Pubbers are going gentle on Trump because they know he can do that. It’s a big problem yet to be resolved.
By the way what happened to the Newt? He was the closest thing the Pubsters had to a Conservative intellectual. Could have actually become President but he was just too weird for public consumption and had marital problems not consistent with bible thumper idealism.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2015

My candidate Scott Walker tossed his hat into the ring. He gave a very good speech. He is going to be a formidable candidate. Hill-Billy is afraid of him.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2015

LBJ was a racist and probably did say all those forbidden words. Reminds me of Nixon when the tapes came out on him. Very anti-jew. LBJ no doubt used the N word in his Oval Office discussions.

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Paul Emery

13 July 2015

Todd
Walker will be a force to contend with for the Pubbers. Check out this Politico piece on his prospects for the nomination.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/scott-walker-knows-how-to-win-119951.html?ml=m_a2_1#.VaRSrbXW2iA

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George Rebane

13 July 2015

Over the decades I’ve heard that LBJ quote a number of times, and agree with Mr Boardman as to its plausibility. I too would like to get a surviving reference to it. But I suspect that the lamestream along with their progressive politicians have done everything possible to impugn and/or expunge that quote from whatever politically incorrect archive it was found. History must be rewritten so that the young can be “carefully taught” (cf. ‘South Pacific’).

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Walt

13 July 2015

LIBS are funny. Denounce one “racist” just to honor another.
They are running out of Lefty “great leaders” to “honor”. Someone didn’t do their history homework… So Someone did it for them.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/13/democrats-change-name-of-dinner-to-honor-racist-harry-truman/
Truman said some real nasty things that I shal not repeat here, but you will find them in the story.

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fish

13 July 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 13 July 2015 at 05:24 PM
I completely disagree with Mr. Boardman as to it’s plausibility.
LBJ was as he mentioned “a man of his times” and faced with the political realities of his era almost certainly sought to salvage something from the exchange….the ability to successfully lock in a voting block in near perpetuity would be a reasonable exchange for what might otherwise be considered a political loss.
I think it’s entirely likely that that phrase or one very similar was uttered by LBJ.

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fish

13 July 2015

Posted by: Walt | 13 July 2015 at 05:39 PM
Woodrow Wilson…hero of progressive internationalism as well.

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George Rebane

13 July 2015

fish 543pm – Did you misquote me? If not, why reference my 524pm?

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fish

13 July 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 13 July 2015 at 05:56 PM
Mr Boardman said he doubted the context in which Kessler related LBJs use of the word. “Highly questionable”……were his words to which you agreed!
I don’t believe it was highly questionable at all. LBJ had a reputation for coarse language notable even during that non PC era. His use of the term as well as claiming some political gain from what had to be considered an overall loss to the political powers of the time would have been in character for Johnson.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2015

LBJ had his own “negro” strategy for elections. It worked!

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2015

Well, boys, what we have here is lack of certifiable validation.
Oh, let’s see now. LBJ was a lib. Libs say things like that. Robert Byrd did as well. Boy, The Distinguished Senator from West Virgiinny could not stop dropping the n word his whole life. But, he was a lib and left us with a nice taxpayer funded statue of himself. More importantly, he brought home the bacon.
Did hear about some unnamed high spirited playful hooligans committing some misdemeanor in the cover of darkness by putting white sheets over the statue’s head, complete with a burning cross at the statue of the former Klan leader. They got away. Witnesses said they were wearing white sheets and figured it was them crazy Greeks from the local university throwing a Toga Party. So, perhaps only Ladybird would know. Strike that, she died. I liked her. Check out the Ladybird Johnson Wildflower site sometime if you are planning on sticking some drought tolerate plants into out lovely soil. A wealth of botonical information, but I digress.
So, did he say it or not? Did LBJ really sit on toilet in the Oval Office and then have the Secret Service usher in those wishing his ear? Yep. He was a lib though and though, despite his Ten Gallon Hat ways of communication. Wonder if Bobby Byrd got the Porcelian Throne welcome on one of his visits to Johnson. I bet he did. Left him shaking in his boots until the day he died.

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George Rebane

13 July 2015

fish 609pm – Then your 543pm directly misquotes me. My 524pm said that “(I) agree with Mr Boardman as to its plausibility.” Where the confusion might have arisen is that Boardman cites two epochs in which LBJ plausibly used “nigger”. Most certainly he did in his youth, but the point of the quote here is that he also used that appellation in private during his political life which includes his presidency. What I’m reporting is that the quote was attributed to him quite frequently in the 1960s and 70s by multiple sources. Then when political correctness began to descend over the country, awkward reports like that were heard less frequently to the point where today, witness Mr Boardman, the man’s record has been scrubbed clean.
It is hard to conceive that LBJ had an epiphany about his feelings toward the blacks when he pushed through CRA1964. He evinced no animosity toward African-Americans, but he did consider them as an extremely manipulable constituency, and during his lifetime LBJ was perhaps the country’s most accomplished manipulator, reverting to scripture as required – “Come now, let us reason together.”

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2015

Walt @ 5:39 pm. Give em hell, Harry.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2015

Oh my Walt, an army of coons? How could you ever post that link without some extremely big warnings and the usual disclaimers. An army of coons? Bet Truman was a cracker. Well, at least with Truman, we can gather his quotes and lay them on his gravesite with the inscription “The buck stops here.” Geez, not even someone as crass and tasteless as moi has never uttered such a phrase. Guess we can always find some scroundel or lib who is worse than ourselves to find comfort in. A army of coons was not referring to Daniel Boone’s source of his famous caps I am willing to bet.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2015

Think I will change gears after reading unsettling facts about Dem Presidents. Nothing new under the sun. Or maybe something new. I am not convinced that those “wildlife cameras” we’re actually pointed at wildlife. Nature lovers? Yes. Wildlife?, maybe, maybe not.
http://news.yahoo.com/nudist-resort-owners-charged-california-water-theft-case-002126320.html
Another drought related impact on a business.

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Russ Steele

13 July 2015

As predicted: Taxpayers will get the retirement bill:
CalPERS misses its target return by a wide margin — The California Public Employees’ Retirement System said its fund returned just 2.4% on its investments for the year ended June 30, a huge miss from its 7.5% investment target and a worrisome result for California taxpayers who must make up for any shortfalls in funding pensions. Dean Starkman in the Los Angeles Times$ — 7/13/15

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George Rebane

13 July 2015

RussS 955pm – Thanks for that update; the announcement was long expected since everyone in the world knows what kinds of returns come from debt and the equity markets have done nothing. What should be pointed out is the insane hope and deep draughts of Kool-Aid that was required for the state’s progressives to keep their faith in the 7.5% from its first announcement some years back (to pooh-pooh the amount of CalPERS’ unfunded liabilities) until presumably now. Socialists don’t do economics and finance very well, and they have a hard time with numbers.

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George Boardman

14 July 2015

My stocks were up about 22 percent in the period CalPERS made just 2.4 percent. Maybe I should get one of those cushy six-figure consulting deals to show CalPERS how to make money in the market.

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Russ Steele

14 July 2015

Finally:
State and local governments will no longer be allowed to hide the true costs of the long-term benefits provided to government workers.
A recent change by the Governmental Accounting Standards Board, known simply by the acronym GASB, forces government bodies to be more transparent in reporting pension liabilities and long-term commitments for retiree heath care. Among the changes: the liabilities must be reported on the first page of financial reports instead of being buried in a footnote.
With the latest CalPERS results, anyone want to guess what Nevada County’s unfunded liabilities are? It will soon be front page news.

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fish

14 July 2015

Via Drudge…..
$2,446,920,000,000: Federal Taxes Set Record Through June…
….and the debt still grows!

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

This is how the fascist leadership of the Teacher’s Union does their endorsements of candidates. Teachers said “Hey, no one talked to us”! (paraphrased)
http://eagnews.org/no-freaking-way-teachers-revolt-over-unions-endorsement-of-hillary-clinton/

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

Oh and Hillary was dissing Republicans like Trump at of all places, the La Raza get together. The racist group of latinos! You just can’t make this stuff up!

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Brad C.

14 July 2015

Real, or fake ? — “Keep screwing (with us) and I’m going to make you eat your fucking words you lousy white faggot,” said the Twitter account with the user name @ElChap0Guzman.
Two massive egos duking it out on Twittter…or did The Donald create the Guzman sock puppet so he had someone to Tweet with?

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Joe Koyote

14 July 2015

The fact that some of you are enamored with Trump says a lot. Trump proves beyond a reasonable doubt that one does not have to be intelligent to accumulate wealth, especially if you inherit it. That anyone would think that he would make a good president goes beyond reason and into the realm of fantasy. A look at his hairdo should be enough to convince any astute person that the man is not playing with a full deck.

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George Rebane

14 July 2015

JoeK 954am – So which of Trump’s talents allowed him to accumulate wealth, and how can the rest of country with similar deficiencies, no matter how they comb their hair, replicate Trump’s accomplishments?
I take it you don’t want criticize what he said, only what the Left claims that he meant.

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

We can always depend on the loony left to diss anyone on the right with personal attacks. His hair? That is the best you fools on the left can some up with? Apparently so. The drug dealing mass murderer El Crapo is a Trump sock puppet? Jeeze the left in America has been on prozac far to long.
What I like about the country is anyone can run for anything. When I see these loony left attacks on a person I know they are scared to death. Their freeloading days on the taxpayer might come to an end so they do the DAILYKOS best to destroy.
I am supporting Walker right now, so Trump is not my guy. But to denigrate him as you loons are doing is truly amazing. Most lefties here are failures in business anyway. Hillary Clinton is your candidate and if anyone has a lot of stuff in the closets maybe you should go there and let us know what they are. The left is going to be trounced across America in 2016 at all levels (maybe even the urban areas) because they are truly anti-American in their policies.

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Joe Koyote

14 July 2015

“how can the rest of country with similar deficiencies, no matter how they comb their hair, replicate Trump’s accomplishments?” it’s called inheritance George.. like the Kochs, the Waltons, and most other radical right political activist billionaires. They never had to lift a finger to be wealthy, all they had to do was preserve it, no real accomplishment actually if you have good financial advisors. In fact, the most likely determining factor in accumulating wealth in America is inheritance, not innovation or hard work. Most billionaires just got it handed to them by their daddies while they were raised by nannies and then shipped off to boarding school. Not a real psychologically stable childhood that seems to often play out in narcissist delusions of grandeur promulgated by using their wealth and power to impose their values on there rest of us. I just don’t trust people with comb overs or toupees, it is a sign of insecurity just like fake tits.
Oh Todd, BTW, Hillary isn’t my candidate. “Most lefties here are failures in business anyway.” another piece of astute wisdom from Todd. Most billionaire conservatives are morons so what is your point?

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fish

14 July 2015

Most billionaire conservatives are morons so what is your point?
SEE!! You do have something in common with “The Donald”!

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2015

Oh Todd, may I suggest you show a wee bit more kindness to our feathered friends on the Left in their hour of need. After all, they are stuck with Hillary as their gal.
Walker the Union Buster is coming. Quick, hide the children and put the old ladies in the storm cellar. Danger lies ahead. This should be fun watching the libs bash Walter as they advoid mentioning their lovely bride, the former First Lady, the former broke First Lady. The one, the only, the next Great White Hope to rectify White Lib Quilt, their sweet and charming gal, simply known as Hillary.
Well, Walker is on board. That makes 15 and tomorrow Gov. John K of Ohio will make it 16. Who besides Walker has reformed them antiquated teacher tenure rules? Can’t thing of one other person alive that has even got close to it in any state without being hung on the Tree of Woe and his/her entails cast to the vultures. And Walter did it in a blue state. He deserves a look.
Which conservative besides John K ran for elected office as a newbie in a blue district during the height of Watergate and (gasp!) and won? This is great. But, let’s not be boastful. Try to hide the glee, Todd and Right thinking others. We must always try to walk a mile in another’s moccasins. Remember the Left is stuck with Hillary. Alas.

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Joe Koyote

14 July 2015

Good one Fish, not.– tell me why do conservatives champion spoiled rich kids rather than hard working Americans?

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fish

14 July 2015

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 14 July 2015 at 11:17 AM
Don’t know….not a conservative.

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

Fish that was so funny. JoeK and Trump share being morons. What a hoot!

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2015

Think Joe K has The Donald envy. Trump ain’t my guy, but I just can’t get enough of those sweet words The Donald leaves behind. Shocking, is it not? Looking solely at the libbowels’ shock and awe….er…shock, disdain, and vitriol concerning The Donald, I don’t have to even read what he said. Whenever The Donald calls ’em as he sees ’em, the lib’s heads look just the mellons Walt has out on the fence posts after target practice. Thank you Joe K and extended family for your opinions. Keep those cards and letters coming, kiddies. And thank you for refraining from using Bozo no-no’s when Mr. Trump speaks to you. Priceless.

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Walt

14 July 2015

Damn it!!.. Bill must be looking over the fence again. Now just don’t tell who’s pictures are taped to said mellons. I have upgraded my reloading equipment, and been busy tuning it to the proper load specs. I can now crank out 100 .308 rounds in ten minutes. ( and that’s taking my time)
Growing a new batch of targets as well.
Trump is now leader of the pack and gaining steam. Even the Mex drug lord who escaped is pissed.
I happen to like what “the rich guy” has to say. He didn’t get rich by being stupid.(as some here claim he is)
The “class envy” groups are good at calling names. The “class envy” types need to get a job.

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George Boardman

14 July 2015

From a fiscal point of view, Trump is probably the ideal Republican candidate for President. The Donald almost lost his empire in the ’90s, but he owed the banks so much money, they couldn’t afford to let him go under.
When you consider how we run the government on debt, Trump would fit right in.
He also seems to have (if you will) personal worth issues when it comes to how much money he has. Few people cooperate when Forbes does its annual list of the 400 wealthiest Americans, but Trump tried to convince the magazine several years ago that he was worth more than he was.
Then there was the time he sued an author for writing in his book that Trump was worth less than he claimed. The case as dismissed.

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Don Bessee

14 July 2015

Some of you may have seen the front page article in the union today that claimed SAM (smart approaches to marijuana) was making a presentation to the County BOS today. It was news to SAM too as the person who was mentioned as making our presentation was out of the State today and we had no such plans. Turns out that the individuals email account was hacked and hijacked and an email was sent to media outlets as a genuine SAM press release from the individuals email account and the Union took it at face value without confirming with any SAM folks. (the union will be doing a story on the story within the story) This is only one of a number of very odd happenings related to emails in recent weeks and continues the pattern of harassment of anti drug orgs. Guess the pot profiteers are worried and feel the need to create more problems than they already do.

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Patricia Smith

14 July 2015

I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that this PR from SAM came from someone within their organization. It is ty[pical of Besse to try to slime his opponents with having created the PR. Me thinks he doth protest too much. I hope DeSena publishes the findings of his forensic expert.
This is reminiscent of the time Bessee claimed I was Pollly Parrot – until George revealed that I was not that poster – and no more posts have been seen by the mysterious Parrot since then. Curious?

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

A local blogger said this on their blog today.
“We are longtime fans and generous donors to the Nevada County Narrow Gauge Railroad Museum, so I was glad to hear about this project”
I have never met a “generous” liberal with their own money. I wonder how much? LOL!

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2015

To Don the Graceless and Patricia the Gracious (sorry Don, I got a soft spot for her tribe); BOTH of you should read Brad C’s 9:17am comment this morning:
Real, or fake ? — “Keep screwing (with us) and I’m going to make you eat your fucking words you lousy white faggot,” said the Twitter account with the user name @ElChap0Guzman.
Two massive egos duking it out on Twittter…or did The Donald create the Guzman sock puppet so he had someone to Tweeter.”
Now, is it not obvious who this mysterious hacker, impersonator, and all around mischief maker really is? It’s that fugitive from justice, Mr. El Chapo Guzman. He really has no tolerance for Don or Patty’s safe and sane legal cultivation. That’s no tolerance for Don and no tolerance for Patricia Smith’s advocation. 🙂
Consider this evidence: Is it not a bit odd that after “Chuey’s” recapture awhile back, Polly Purebreed Parrot went silent. Now that El Chapo is on the loose, havoc has returned. El Chapo is coming to a blog near you and boy o’ boy, I believe he is rather pissed off. That sock puppet sure has some anger issues along with his failure to get along with others. Let the readers beware. My good deed of the day.

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2015

My, Chuey was born on Christmas Day in La Tuna, TX. I bet he was the cutest Christmas baby ever. His being born in La Tuna (it wasn’t his fault) may explain the influence of environment on the formation of his personhood, FYI.

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Don Bessee

14 July 2015

What’s really interesting is a) pattie failed to show up this morning at the BOS when she always does for all matters pot related. b)One of my Directors suddenly is locked out of email using the password that worked the night before (DeSena is not a Director) c)No one is protesting but pattie. d)On the union website pattie claims DeSena got cold feet. Interesting premise but like most asa premises it is flawed, he was out of state at the time of the BOS meeting. e)The long history of acts including some recent stuff related to a phony sheriffs business card that was photoshopped and peddled to he whos name we will not speak as a real document which of course he bought into until the obvious failings were pointed out.

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Patricia Smith

14 July 2015

Oh Don, do you really want to go there? Even your allies are starting to see how deceitful you are. I will address your concerns in order:
1. I did not show up at today’s BOS meeting because a) I didn’t hear about it until the meeting was half over, and b) my car isn’t starting so I didn’t have a way to get there.
2. Don’t know what to say about your director getting locked out of your email (has nothing to do with me).
4. I said possibly DeSena got cold feet, but I now don’t believe he sent the PR but we both have our suspicions who did. (he contacted me via a PM on FB about this)
5. I talked to two separate people who claimed that you handed them the phony business card stating that you are a NC Deputy specalizing in MJ eradication. Maybe we should hire a forensic specialist to look into this matter also. I already offered to take a lie detector test. Are you willing?

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2015

No phone call of condolence by Obama to the Steinle family. He called all the blacks but not the whites. Obama is a racist.

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Walt

14 July 2015

Todd. It’s not politically expedient to say a thing to the Steinle family.
No riots to fan the flames, The family is White, the killer a constituent, and it took place in LIB land.
No don’t forget the guy up in Seattle that is an illegal with a similar rap sheet and deported many a time, who killed and set afire some poor bastard who didn’t pay his drug bill.
Trump/ Walker would be a good ticket.

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Walt

14 July 2015

Just read about the fake email.. Someone is out to make someone look bad.
“False flag” game playing at work? ( That wold be from a pissed potster)

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Don Bessee

14 July 2015

IN RE item 5 madam smith- The details of your crews game on this has been widely disseminated and the fact that it was so obviously a scam is known to all. So name the two upstanding citizens who could have filed a crime report but knowing a false report is a crime unto itself declined knowing the VSA was in their future. My God you had the wrong logo and phone number you idiots! ROFLOL …. We see you guys freaking out on how the election is shaking up in Cali. You guys cant agree on anything at a State level. We are better positioned and better organized at this point than ever before and we won all those past battles did we not? I know it galls your gang that I have young democrats in the rich coastal Counties engaged with us and working for our kids and property rights. :-0 snap

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Walt

14 July 2015

What next? The old “SWATing” game? There is a certain demographic that will stoop to ANY level, and it’s not the Conservative side. it’s those that get pissed when things just don’t go their way, and like to play dirty.

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Walt

14 July 2015

Well well…. Recall the news about Tom Selleck and his “water theft”? Uhh,,, he actually paid for that water. (ooopppsssss) 20 grand of taxpayer money for a (LOL) P.I. and they still wind up eating crow.
Lets see if that info gets as much press as when they tried to hang him. ( not bloody likely)

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