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Sandbox – 17jun15

17 June 2015

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390 responses to “Sandbox – 17jun15”

fish

19 June 2015

Posted by: Jon | 19 June 2015 at 03:52 PM
Boy you said it…..only slack jawed retards from the sticks are interested in things like that!
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/PORTOLA-VALLEY-History-buff-collects-tanks-for-2603523.php
Posted by: Jon | 19 June 2015 at 03:57 PM
Explains quite a bit about the mentality and philosophy of life.
Hmmm…..why don’t you explain it to us Dr. Phil…the whole “mentality and philosophy of life” thing.
God but you are a presumptuous nitwit

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Scott Obermuller

19 June 2015

I stated a fact, jon. Please give us some evidence that I was sentimental about it. You are one confused puppy.

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Todd Juvinall

19 June 2015

I just think the posting of “jonnie” are great! All can see what happens when a person becomes a liberal. No one can make this up. They really are loony!

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Walt

19 June 2015

SURE I would like a tank. But the shells are REAL pricey. I might hit up the Big Sandy gun shoot this year. Even privately owned artillery pieces are known to show up.
I know how to enjoy the finer things in life.
No quit screwing over you boss and get back to work.

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Todd Juvinall

19 June 2015

Jonnie have you served the country in the military?

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fish

19 June 2015

No(w) quit screwing over you boss and get back to work.
Nahh….the glossies have already been schlepped throughout the foothills…..I imagine he’s done for the day

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fish

19 June 2015

Damn……Walt…..some of these things are cheaper than fairly run-o-the-mill sports cars!

Buyers can pay a few thousand for a scrapped tank that doesn’t run to more than $120,000 for a World War II Sherman tank in good condition. Restoration costs start at about $70,000 and can reach into the millions, said Lee Holland, vice president of the Military Vehicles Preservation Association.

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fish

19 June 2015

And you never need to parallel park a Sherman!
$125,740
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-carrera-4-gts/

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Gregory

19 June 2015

Fish dude 3:48, I copied the post from 2011 verbatim and the link was active then. If you want to check the Warren Burger quote I suggest google, it is sure to be in multiple other places as it was then.

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fish

19 June 2015

Posted by: Gregory | 19 June 2015 at 05:07 PM
For notification purposes only…..
Duuuude!

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Walt

19 June 2015

We are seeing the results of all that drug experimentation from the 60’s and 70’s.
Nope,, it’s not a pretty sight. a few here are still on the psychedelic trip.
“Facts? we don’t need no stink’n facts.. Emotion is where it’s at.”
Back in the day the hippies were singing “freedom”!,, now it’s “RESTRICTION!”
My… How times change.

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Patricia Smith

19 June 2015

George, June 19, 2:46pm I read your link and I question whether it seems even remotely possible that an armed citizenry could overthrow the US gov’t. If not, the whole premise for owning stockpiles of weapons seems pointless. However, I support your right to own however many guns you’d like, but I still have problems with assault weapons.
Walt, June 19 5:16 above I’ve been stating I support gun ownership rights all day, but all you hear are restrictions. I wish you were half as supportive of my rights, but you won’t even meet halfway – you want total restrictions. You are very inconsistent.

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Walt

19 June 2015

Once again.. I have NO PROBLEM (for the umteenth time) with MMJ. What part of that don’t you understand? YES it has it’s place in medicine. I know first hand the effects of said weed. ( LORD do I know..) It has NO BUSINESS being legalized for recreational use. It will just add to the the unemployment problem, among other things.
Scared of guns? It’s obvious you don’t know anything about them, except which end the bullet comes out of. Get educated. Stop relying on what someone else has told you.
It may not be the “G” man looking for trouble, but some thug looking to take what I worked for. Who knows.. it my be you next in the dead of night, or in broad daylight thinking your not home. It can happen anywhere. Yes, even here.

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Patricia Smith

19 June 2015

Walt, really, you have no problem with MMJ? So I suppose you voted for Measure S? It’s really deceitful to say you support MMJ, but vote to restrict access for patients. So many of you say one thing and do the opposite. And I note that you are fine with banning recreational marijuana. DOES THAT MEAN IT’S OK TO BAN CERTAIN GUNS?
I’m the first to admit that I know nothing about guns. Don’t want to either. But I do know that there are reasonable regulations that will make it a litle more difficult for the crazies to (legally) buy a gun while allowing people the right to purchase any gun that’s legal. Because there are so many guns in our society, it’s probably as easy to get gun on the street as it is to score marijuana. I’ve resorted to extreme examples because it seems there is nothing that you will accept that regulates guns in any way.

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Don Bessee

19 June 2015

Which of your ‘rights’ derived from what court decisions do you speak of Pattie? @533

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Walt

19 June 2015

Love it You don’t know anything about guns and don’t want to…. Priceless.
Again.. The LIB mind at work.
“S” was a piss poor measure. Especially when it came to what dopers could do with “rental property” Legalized destruction. I had a good taste of that already. You and your clan care to reimburse me for my lose? Pass the hat around to your high profit growers. 70 grand should do the trick. That’s how much I am out thanks to a so called MMJ grower.
Do you forget that provision in “S”?
At least I get educated on the subject at hand. Unlike you. So your position on gun ownership is pretty much meaningless. Based on pure emotion and fear. ( with plenty of ignorance thrown in for good measure)
I know PLENTY about weed. Probably more than you do.

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Michael R. Kesti

19 June 2015

Patricia Smith 19Jun15 06:17 PM
I am on the record for being in favor of legalization of marijuana and support it being managed in a manner much like we currently manage alcohol. I voted against measure S, though, because I feel that ballot initiatives are a poor way to legislate and should be used only in extreme matters. My point is that there are sometimes other sides to issues than those that you choose to consider.
I heard recently that there are about 50,000 laws concerning access to guns in America and that many of them go unenforced. I would rather see enforcement or repeal of existing laws before enactment of more.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Don, whats your take on the dismissal of the last charge against Brad Glasse?
I’d be interested in why he and his little patch was targeted specifically when there are many other countless bigger, illegal grows, obviously well known in the area. Why isn’t there more action against these illegal big grows? I actually agree with Walt and I’d support a stepped up enforcement of all the big boys who are flaunting the ordinance out there.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Walt, my advice to you is- pull up those bootstraps man, and stop WHINING incessantly about your bad tenant. Ad nauseum we have heard that story now, 20 times. That is YOUR fault for not monitoring the premises more closely. You want a government reimbursement program?

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Scott Obermuller

19 June 2015

from Patricia: “I’ve resorted to extreme examples because it seems there is nothing that you will accept that regulates guns in any way.”
It seems? I know this is pointless, but what has anyone here said that would back up that totally hysterical claim?
BTW – the NRA helped to write many of the first gun restriction laws.
But Patricia is ignorant on the subject and proud of it. Bring on the grubers.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Kesti 6:58- I AGREE with everything you said regarding MJ and alcohol. I also voted against for similar reasons, pending the 2016 CA legalization measures.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Walt, serious question- you are always wailing against the unemployment problem for able bodied workers. What is your status? Are you 65 and retired?

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Scott Obermuller

19 June 2015

jon at 7:12 – this is why jon hides his ID. Nice to see your compassion for some one who got screwed. You clearly know nothing about ‘tenents rights’ in Kali. They can legally destroy your building and property and there’s nothing you can do about it other than try to sue them after the fact.
I’ve had it with jon. Smirking at Walt’s loss like a 10 year brain dead brat. If jon got hosed for that much we wouldn’t hear about anything else from him. Good grief.

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Walt

19 June 2015

Not bad Kesti.. Not bad at all. I do like the ballot process, because it dose give us peeons some chance of say on things. Prop 13 was a big one for the “little guy”.
It just pisses me off that when the people DO pass a law by ballot, some no name “friends of” drag it in front of a judge to get it dismissed. So one judge nullifies millions of votes. Just like “the people” said NO to illegals getting tax money in various forms.
Now look what Moonbat has just done. Health care for illegals.
Your dead on about the gun laws. Even the state waiting period has been found to be unconstitutional, yet the state files appeal after appeal. It’s been found that the waiting period never did it’s intended job. And background checks can be done in hours.

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Jon

19 June 2015

That’s right Scott, I am sick of hard right hypocrites like Walt whining about programs to help people, and then turning around whining about something he could have controlled, through several channels, first of which was the screening process, terms of his lease agreement, etc. What do you think, I know nothing about this subject? My extended family is deep into real estate and I deal with it all the time in my business. It is absolutely false that landlords are devoid of rights in CA.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Scott re: your 4:10 way back this afternoon, I reaffirm my point that I indeed believe it LOONY to want to own a tank on your residential property. Especially when the clear purpose is not to create the basis for the Penn Valley Tank Museum of vintage American tanks. The thought of Walt driving that tank is chuckle inducing. Thoughts of the movie- The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming. Great flick.

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Walt

19 June 2015

I keep bringing it up because a certain person keeps forgetting the fact. Too much MJ?
Yes,, short term memory loss is a side effect. At least you remembered. (somewhat… It’s only been 9 times I have had to bring it up… but who’s counting?)
HELL dude,, this ditch digger can retire, and vary comfortably. The Conservative practices what he preaches. Work your ass off, brake your back doing it, and save, invest, and spend wisely, and don’t make the same mistakes twice.
Here.. let me give you an investment tip. Guns and ammo ALWAYS a good investment.
You would be shocked on my gains or losses one day to the next on just a penny change in stock value. Yup,, “O” did wonders for my portfolio. He’s the best gun salesman ever.
And now he’s at it again.
So.. where is your retirement? The five gallon water jug in the corner?

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Walt

19 June 2015

Now why on earth would I want to drive a tank on pavement? It would tear it up.
But it sure would keep the low lifes away.
What’s your dream ride? A third hand Subaru?

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Michael R. Kesti

19 June 2015

Walt 19Jun15 07:22 PM
Thanks, Walt. I wish that I could return the compliment but I cannot because I find myself too often disgusted by your despicable rants and unwarranted accusations.

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Patricia Smith

19 June 2015

Don B, 6:18 Everytime Prop 215 has come before the courts, it has been upheld. It is true that the courts has also upheld the right of local entities to create their own regulations because it was not directly addressed in the initiative. Your point?
Walt, 6:51 This sure doesn’t sound like support for MMJ. Aren’t you getting dizzy from changing sides so frequently?
Scott, 7:13 Hysterical? Only when I’m laughing at your comments that always seem to miss the point. Being ignorant about types of guns is not the same as being ignorant of regulations. Most RR readers were unaware that the ACLU supported the NRA. Does that make them ignorant or uninformed? Trying to find some common ground but I’ve been attacked all day for saying I support gun owner’s rights. You guys are too much. I’d think you’d be happy that a LIBERAL has come to your side on this issue.

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Todd Juvinall

19 June 2015

Walt, as you can read these girly men, Jonnie and Kesti, just can’t stomach your real world talk and common sense. What a hoot. Those relatives of the victims in SC were forgiving their relatives killer, Kesti doesn’t even have the class to not be a prick to Walt.
Regarding landlords. The law is totally in favor of the tenant. Jonnie is a liar saying he knows all about those issues. Having rentals I have personally experienced what the true rights are and they do not favor the landlord at all. So once again, jonnie is fibbing and as he is a troll, he can bite Kesti. LOL!

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Scott Obermuller

19 June 2015

Patricia at 8:49 – “Being ignorant about types of guns is not the same as being ignorant of regulations.” Well, since many of the regulations involve certain types of guns, then yes, it is the same. If you say you are against ‘assault weapons’ being owned by citizens, then you are not on my side. I’m glad you’re honest about being ignorant on the subject, but you might find if you put down the bong and educate yourself, you’d find there’s no real reason for being against the private ownership of almost any kind of weapon.
And you may want to laugh, but I notice you just ducked answering my question. I guess laughing is all you can do when you’re stoned instead of backing up your incredibly brain dead statements.

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Scott Obermuller

19 June 2015

jon – you’re losing it, dude.
” I reaffirm my point that I indeed believe it LOONY to want to own a tank on your residential property.”
In order to reaffirm something, you need to affirm it in the first place. That wasn’t your original statement. Try again.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Todd, you know what-
Kesti gets my a healthy good dose of my respect because he is consistent, fair and honest in his assessment of the various wild rants on here that veer off into la-la land, regardless of political affliliation. There are too many people here giving a pass to some of you guys, and I appreciate his honesty. Kesti calls it like it is, and while I disagree with half of his opinions, he certainly appears to me to be a VERY RARE ntellectually honest, true conservative. Most of the rest of you are filled with anger, frustration, envy and irrational sentimentalism about the state of our nation and the world today.

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Walt

19 June 2015

Ignorance can be rectified. But you can’t fix stupid. Those that refuse to correct their ignorance put themselves in the stupid category.
Try to be nice when it’s called for, and look what happens. No more Mr. Nice guy.
Go fuck yourself Kestie. Accusations you say? Unwarranted? LOL!! DO tell where I have been wrong. And calling a LIB for what one is is neither. HELL! “jon” can’t even keep his fibs strait.
As for Patrica,, I hope the next MJ bust is you. I have never flip flopped on MMJ.
But let me know when I can collect that 60 grand from the fine, upstanding, obscene profit MMJ growers.( I won’t hold my breath) Hell I bet you know the bitch the screwed me over. All dopers know each other.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Todd, please cite where I stated that rental laws in CA do not favor tenants? Walt was crying like a helpless puppy about his landlord rights. He had plenty of avenues, plenty of opportunities to assert said rights.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Todd and Walt- prospective Real Estate Moguls,
I guess the other question to you manly independent type conservative capitalists, would be this-
If you really believe and understand deeply that you are so helpless in CA as a landlord,
JUST WHY IN THE HELL DID YOU PLAY LANDLORD?
If you’re such a good investor and capitalist, understanding business risks, and if landlord rights are so non existent, why in gods name would you invest and rent out your properties to tenants who possess all the rights in the state of CA? Obviously, in a free market of information about risks and opportunities, that would clearly be a REAL DUMB DECISION. So, in conclusion, you made STUPID DECISIONS. That’s freedom, that’s life in America.

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fish

19 June 2015

That’s freedom, that’s life in America.
Yeah…..kind of like the freedom to own a tank if you can afford it.

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Jon

19 June 2015

Wow, a new and unique Walt Explosion at 9:42! Even going after an honest conservative. Hay Walt, please remind us- when were you Mr. Nice Guy? You’ve been ranting endlessly about LIBS and DEMS as virtual enemies of the State- or worse- for nearly a decade. Day after angry Day. No sympathy for you, Dirtmover.

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Walt

19 June 2015

And the horse you rode in on and the dog that followed, milk toast.
You have nothing of value to say. It’s all pointy sticks for you.
Dirtmover is right. An honest living and proud of it. Unlike you who hides in the shadows
and lies through his tooth.

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Don Bessee

19 June 2015

Sounds like the ‘jon’ is still being ignored in the real world. 😦 sniff, sniff. LOL Congrats to the court reformers for the convictions of the scum who stole from little old ladies, too bad it was not a dozen or so more of them! Dr. R, the CCC is in full effect again, what established legal rights were those pattie?

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George Rebane

19 June 2015

PatriciaS 533pm – Please reread the Par Force piece. Nowhere was civilian par force suggested as a prerequisite to “overthrow the US gov’t”. But possession of par force with local constabulary will allow citizens to express extreme grievances with sufficient volume and endurance that the country will hear them. What comes after that depends on the nature and extent of the grievance.
In case you don’t think that the federal government is preparing to quickly and quietly shut down the expression of such grievances, then please pay attention to the multi-state Jade Helm training exercises starting in less than a month in several states. These exercises will not be covered by the lamestream, and very possibly even by FN. More here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/06/americas-sinister-security-circus.html

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Jon

19 June 2015

translation of Don’s 10:27, please.

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Todd Juvinall

19 June 2015

Jonnie is a fool. I really don’t care what he says. Morons of the left are all like him. Too funny. And he says we are angry men. Jeeze he is clueless and he has no debate skills. He also can’t even remember what he writes. Alzheimer there jonnie?
But the libs condescend to others since they are unable to compete. My guess is he is actually some mom and pop paid for college grad in racial studies and has never been able to find a job here in crackerville. What a hoot!

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Michael Anderson

20 June 2015

God gives the nuts, but he does not crack them.
Franz Kafka

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fish

20 June 2015

Fortunately the only thing mayors are good for is relentless mockery……DeBlasio (AKA Mayor Cuckold), Bloomberg, Emmanuel….if only Leland Yee had been successful in his run for SF mayor…then it would have been poetry!

CAPITOL ALERT 10:16 PM
Obama urges mayors to back gun control

Good luck with that Barry!
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/#storylink=cpy

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Todd Juvinall

20 June 2015

Sheriff Joe being sued by Obama for “racially profiling” Mexicans in Arizona is sending volunteers to 60 black churches to protect them. That was on the request from a black pastor. Where is Obama on that one?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/19/sheriff-church-protection/28996519/

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fish

20 June 2015

Awwww! You know that you’re just adorable when you get all maudlin you ol’ tax flexible technocrat you!

“We are going to bury you in love you dumb shits.

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Todd Juvinall

20 June 2015

Must be a Truckee troll’s comments eh?
From a man who has maybe only hired a gardener, dishwasher and maid of a different shade. Jeeze!

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fish

20 June 2015

And in this weekends “Irony Sweepstakes”, our clear winner is Mr. James Firth of Nevada City!

“More guns are never the answer in civilized society.”

I am forced to wonder if his former boss and friend Leland Yee was ever made aware of this fact? I mean maybe Leland got a draft copy of the memo that said; “More guns are the answer in civilized society”. Which might have led to all the gun running charge unpleasantness with the FBI.
Perhaps this entire sordid affair could have been avoided if somebody possessing a modicum of “Than Francithco Valuths”™ (proofreading skills) had just checked the paperwork before they called Shrimpboy.

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