200 responses to “Sandbox – 11jun15”

1. 

   Jon

   12 June 2015

   Patricia 11:06- spot one. To address Don’t obsession about the impact of legal pot on kids, legalization and strict regulation will (and have) reduced the incidence of pot use among youth. Anyone with half a brain knows that most of the 10-12 year old exposed to it today are getting it from the parents and relatives underground cultivation and lifestyle.

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   Bill Tozer

   12 June 2015

   Here’s jonnie!! China refuses to take back its escapees as well for years now. That be Pinko Socialist Mainland Bamboo Curtain Red China. The Yellow Peril. Yep, been that way for a long time. Escape from The People’s Republic of Goon Squad and they will never take you back. Enemy of the State, disgrace and dishonor and all that stuff.
   So, all ya gotta do is somehow grab on to the propeller of a passing cargo ship and make it to San Fransico, New York, Seattle, or LA. There you can find a job washing dishes in quasi squalid slave like conditions in Chinatown. Maybe over time ya move up the ladder and run White Mama Powder for the Big Boys. Welcome to America, Chinatown style. You can never leave.

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   Bill Tozer

   12 June 2015

   Hhhheeeeerrrrrreeess jonnie! Breaking news. Paul can now exhale. In with the good, out with the bad. Deep slow breaths….and get ready for the other shoe to drop. No rest for the ever vigilant watchman.
   http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-house-vote-fast-track-20150612-story.html

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   fish

   12 June 2015

   Posted by: Bill Tozer | 12 June 2015 at 01:09 PM
   Now the lobbyists will go to work on the critical recalcitrant members and next time it passes.
   Remember democracy means that you are given as many times to vote as is necessary to come to the right decision.

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   Bill Tozer

   12 June 2015

   My Walt, that Dizzy Tizzy Lizzy Borden-Warren sure brings out the copy cats. First, a leather chewing squaw wannabe and now a Black Like Me wannabe. Don’t know about this latest trend. Profiting off one’s blackness is nothing new and is the norm in some circles. She looks black enough to pass, but is she really?? Like, how do you ask a Negro wannabe IF he/she/it is really, reaaly, really black or is black enough? Seems awkward or something to pose this particular question to those in Black Leadership.
   I know thing, her daddy is white. He’s from Montana. That says it all. And with a name like Dolezel, heck, no black person would walk around with that last name very long. So, is she white, red, yellow, brown, or the absence of color in our colorblind society??
   http://news.yahoo.com/civil-rights-activist-rachel-dolezal-pretending-to-be-black–parents-say-142027280.html#

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   Todd Juvinall

   12 June 2015

   Yeah “jonnie”, he was quoting from Politico. You are welcome.

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7. 

   Todd Juvinall

   12 June 2015

   Paul Emery must be apoplectic. Over 300 against which means those damn Repulicrats are on his side! Jeeze, Isn’t life grand?

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   Bonnie McGuire

   12 June 2015

   People who have never had the responsibility of owning and operating a business don’t have any idea about what it takes. That’s why according to communist psychology it’s easy to stir up employee animosity towards their employer. If you’ve been an employee and employer during your life you understand the big picture. I’ve heard some employees actually assert that business wouldn’t exist except for them…not realizing their employers work doesn’t end at 5pm, but may require extra concerns lasting far into the night. As for drug and alcohol abuse (including MJ)…the employer is liable for harm these people might cause to others on the job. Their carelessness is cause for ruinous lawsuits. I’ve noticed that when young people leave their mom and pop at home and enter the work force …their employer becomes the new mom, or pop taking care of them. If you don’t have good credit, don’t want to take the personal risk and hard work to create your own business and employ others…don’t throw rocks at those who do. People who go to college and go into government who have had no experience in the private sector as employer or employee shouldn’t be running our tax and spend government. Dumb de dumb…

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   Don Bessee

   12 June 2015

   So the ‘jon’ pops up again and proves he has half a brain (but how much of that does he actually use?). So lets extrapolate, you create mechanisms to mainstream drug dealers and create a legit cover and then there is massive expansion of availability. So all those new people in the ‘biz’ are socially normed. Its not only those poor kids immersed in the lifestyle but the perception of harm in general. Facts show reduction in perception of harm in children is always followed by increases in use with all that implies. 8th graders in Denver self reported use rates in 2014 at 350% of the national average. Keep chanting the high times talking points, it just makes things easy for us.

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10. 

    Patricia Smith

    12 June 2015

    Walt, nice try dude. I did google people being fired in CO and came up with bupkis. Nor could you provide a link – BECAUSE IT HASN’T HAPPENED. I however provided you with a link to increased jobs.
    And you are wrong AGAIN about increased traffic deaths from stoned drivers. Traffic fatalities are down in CO since pot was legalized according to the CO Dept of Transportation. If it were so dangerous, wouldn’t overall deaths skyrocket?
    This is what has realy happened:
    A separate study — also based on FARS data — found that in states where medical marijuana was approved, traffic fatalities decrease by as much as 11 percent during the first year after legalization. Written by researchers at the University of Colorado, Oregon and Montana State University, the paper was published in 2013 in the Journal of Law & Economics.
    Those authors theorized pot, for some, becomes a substitute for alcohol. They cited a recent, 13-percent drop in drunk-driving deaths in states where medical marijuana is legal.

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    Patricia Smith

    12 June 2015

    Don, 3:17
    You keep saying “the facts” say…(fill in the dots) but you do not back up your claims, because they are bogus assumptions. I’m not going to waste my time arguing with someone who refuses to acknowledge that MJ is less harmful than alcohol, tobacco or prescription drugs. SAM is suppported by grants from the large pharmaceutical companies including the makers of Oxycontin. Your objections ring hollow.

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12. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    Don, its getting close to 6PM… Always enjoy your evening posts, especially on weekend nights. Fun stuff.

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13. 

    Scott Obermuller

    12 June 2015

    Ben – thanks for providing something material to the subject. I think the problem is our differing views on what is ‘good’ democracy and not so good democracy. Simply getting the most numbers of warm and possibly not so warm bodies going through the motions of voting is not my idea of a good outcome. For a good working example of a democratic (popular) vote, I would want to see:
    A strict and robust identification system that demonstrates an honest, fraud-free vote. And.
    An engaged and informed electorate that can identify candidates and issues and have studied the pros and cons of all of the various choices on the ballot.
    We have, as our form of govt, a republic. There are several instances of direct popular vote such as California’s system of propositions that can be considered much more democratic. The outcomes of both types of governance seem to be equally decried by the left as not acceptable, yet the left is constantly pushing for more direct democracy as the answer to our perceived structual problems in government.
    I know that you think we conservatives want to prevent people from voting, but I think the more accurate answer is that we want a more intelligent and honest voting experience. It is as if you are to state that driving tests are nothing more than a system of preventing folks from driving. All conservatives want an ever increasing number of qualified voters to contribute to a fraud-free system of democratic vote.

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    fish

    12 June 2015

    Hell that didn’t take long!
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/12/sessions-a-vote-for-taa-next-week-is-a-vote-to-send-fast-track-to-the-presidents-desk/
    Posted by: Jon | 12 June 2015 at 05:37 PM
    C’mon dude how are you enjoying the East coast?

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15. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 June 2015

    Patricia. You need to stand back for a minute from being so focused on medicinal marijuana only and look at its correlation to recreational marijuana. Many see the two as co-mingled, as water and leaves make tea. What Don, Walt, and even Moi believe is that the medicinal cannabis opens to gate for recreational hooch, or is just a ruse for legalize growing for any purpose.. Similar to Obama when he says “that’s not Islam, Islam has been high jacked by extremists.”
    We are pointing out the good, bad, indifferent, and sometimes ugly point of view that medicinal cannabis has been high jacked by pot growers do not see any difference in the two as long as they can grow pot to make some bucks. Sometimes a lot of bucks. But, you can’t make a lot of Benjamins growing in a 36′ foot square plot of garden. You can grow enough in that small space to meet the average patience’s needs, solely. You see the solely part. Others see the whole ball of wax. Details pro or con are a mute point just as long as most pot growers see only dollar signs in their eyes. I know you will stay with your suffering patient theme and stick with it rain or shine, indoors or outdoors, in sickness and in health. Those that take exception to your ideas as too narrowly definined when held up to a bigger reality check also see low life dope growers sticking with it legal or illegal, rain or shine, in sickness or in health, for richer or poorer, til death do the twain part. Unfortunately, any discussion of the suffering patient is no longer the gist of marihuana legalization argument. Me thinks it would be prudent of you to expand your horizons in passionate discussions, but what does a dummie like me know?

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16. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    Scott, can you point us to a particular election precinct, district, city, county or state where voter fraud has been detected and serioiusly investigated as a serious, tangible, substantative problem in the last dozen years?

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17. 

    fish

    12 June 2015

    Up up up I say!
    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/06/more-obamacare-sticker-shock-hmo-rates.html

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18. 

    Walt

    12 June 2015

    Patricia and jonboy should watch the re-run of O’reilly tonight. ( Ya.FOX)
    It was on POT USE tonight. ( imagine that) You will love “the man on the street”.

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    Jon

    12 June 2015

    fish, stop the nonsense. I saw Jeff’s dispatches from Boston as well, but and sitting and sweltering like you. I haven’t been to the East Coast since about mid 2009 unfortunately but some of those Cape seafood and chowder joints are really calling. Also miss the great Southeast and Hatteras Chowder, rarely seen in these parts. Hoping for a cooler weekend…what was it- like 105 today down in cement Valley?

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20. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    Yeah sure Walt, I’m going to log in right now and watch a re-run of O’Reilly…that sounds like a seriously great Friday night activity. 🙂

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21. 

    fish

    12 June 2015

    Posted by: Jon | 12 June 2015 at 06:03 PM
    Then you’re not having a nice visit? 😦

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22. 

    Scott Obermuller

    12 June 2015

    jon at 6:00 – those are several different tangents. How about I ask you if you can name any serious investigations by southern sheriffs in the late 1800s of racial bias or discrimination against blacks. No? Well, then, it seems there was no racial bias against blacks in Mississippi in the late 1800s. Cmon, jon. You have to do a lot better than that around here. In King County, Washington the Dems showed up with several hundred votes all showing the address of the Dem party precinct hq. They said they were vagrants and never could find a single one of them.
    You know perfectly well that since there is no way of keeping track of who is actually voting, you can’t ever prove voter fraud.
    The only reason folks don’t want to have voter ID is so there can be voter fraud. There isn’t any other reason.

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23. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    fish, I visited with a friend and craftsman in Chicago Park today to check on the status of a home project. You?

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24. 

    fish

    12 June 2015

    Posted by: Jon | 12 June 2015 at 07:09 PM
    Sweating with the Dachshunds in Sac!

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25. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    Scott, Thanks for the confirmation of a non-problem.
    fish, nothing worse than HOT DOGS on a sweltering evening in cement valley. Hopefully you have a kid’s pool to dip the little wieners in. Water restrictions? Up here, the well is still functioning fairly well- I’d say 80% of historic pressure. Doing my part to cut down..lots of brown spots. Tomatoes in pots- super water saver solution and doing great this year. Tons and tons of tomatoes on the horizon by July.

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26. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    hey fish, serious question you may know the answer being a Sac Valley resident. Argument with the wife. My wife has a friend in Roseville who insists that much of Roseville gets a cooling breeze from their local RIVER and its connection to the Delta, ie, extended some kind of very suspicious Roseville Delta Breeze. I am not buying it at all- just monitoring weather sites, Roseville seems like a hot, calm caldron at night.
    Too hot for this foothills family. What say you?

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27. 

    Don Bessee

    12 June 2015

    the ‘jon’ all the time- WOW! How PC and totally devoid of any contribution to the conversation other than a characteristic blowing smoke up its own butt. lol 🙂

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28. 

    fish

    12 June 2015

    Posted by: Jon | 12 June 2015 at 07:33 PM
    I’m further in towards Sacramento proper so I can’t speak for Roseville but we get the Delta breeze about one day in three during the summer. It is glorious…..we can have a 30 degree swing in temperature when it decides to grace us with its presence!

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29. 

    Scott Obermuller

    12 June 2015

    jon confirms that voter fraud is a ‘non-problem’.
    Lots of good people died so that scum like jon could piss on the issue of voter integrity. Thanks, jon. When the facists you laugh at take over, you’ll be among the first to go. Idiot.

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30. 

    Walt

    12 June 2015

    Wiener dogs? Anyone up for Asian BBQ? I’m sure I can ask my Son’s Chinese significant other for a good recipe’. Slow cooked ankle biter. ( My Brother the SOB has three of those little bastards)

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31. 

    Todd Juvinall

    12 June 2015

    Voter fraud is hard to prove because the people that do it are really good at it. I recall John Kennedy became President with the help of 100,000 dead Chicagoans. That comedian from Minnesota had a democrat voter registrar that counted numerous times until he was able to elect the comedian. In Washington State, the same thing happened there. They counted numerous times until they were able to find all those missing boxes of democrat votes. Same in Florida in 2000. Al Gore tried to cherry pick the counties he had already won to gain more democrat votes. The democrat Supreme Court of Florida agreed. It took the SCOTUS to stop the thievery. There are many more. Voter ID is the only way to keep democrats from stealing more elections.

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32. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 June 2015

    Ah, Fish the dog lubber. Warms the cockles of me heart. Fish, you can kill your wiener dogs by feeding them too many hot dogs over a long period of time no matter how fat they get or no matter how you just can’t say no to those brown eyes. Ahh.

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33. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 June 2015

    Interesting commentary to follow up the news link I posted @ 1:29 pm today. It makes me understand progressive liberals much more. I always knew some of them wanted to be something other than how they were born. Lizzy and the gal from Spokane. Spokane means children of the sun, FYI. What’s a Negro wannabe working for the Nat’l Assoc of Colored People to do? I guess dress the part and fake it until you make it.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/passing-in-reverse-what-does-rachel-dolezal-tell-us-about-race-today/2015/06/12/76a377a8-112d-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

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34. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    Thanks Scott for showing what a good Christian is all about! Your lord must be reeeally proud of guys like you.

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35. 

    Jon

    12 June 2015

    hey Don, devoid of discourse? Sure. Do you define one of those infamous late night rambling, babbling rants of yours as discourse?

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 June 2015

    Oh Jon, you are such a beast tonight.

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37. 

    fish

    13 June 2015

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 12 June 2015 at 09:20 PM
    Well you’ve got their behavior down pat…but I give them sardines for snacks so they’ll probably outlive both of us!

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    fish

    13 June 2015

    Might be better if we had Russian citizens vote in American elections…eh Ben? They seem to have a better grasp of the obvious than the room temperature IQ inner city denizens that you think would benefit the Murican electoral process.
    http://rt.com/news/266848-russia-nuke-america-poll/

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    Bill Tozer

    13 June 2015

    The Russian citizens are doves and we are the hawks. Too bad their opposition candidates have a way of disappearing and/or dying after eating some fine Russian cuisine. Whatz up with dat?
    Gotta agree with Ben when he said our country cannot survive a Hillary. We need to survive so we can vote to nuke Chicken Kiev for dinner and vote for an multi-party coalition, just like Italy has. Here is the threat to our future. Here is the face of everything Ben fights against:
    http://nypost.com/2015/06/12/clintons-shady-pals-not-quite-everyday-americans/

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40. 

    fish

    13 June 2015

    Gotta agree with Ben when he said our country cannot survive a Hillary.
    Hey, a little respect….your talking about my preferred candidate! America deserves Hillary.
    Hey did you guys hear that President Bunny is planning to have HUD start section 8-ing little enclaves of white all over the country….give Ben and Paul and jeffy a chance to enjoy a little “culture”, a little vibrance in their own private, secluded foothills “Whitetopia”.

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41. 

    fish

    13 June 2015

    It’s this kind of chutzpa that makes me love and respect Hillary all the more!!
    Clinton, according to her would-be employees, has left full-time organizers with little choice but to criss-cross the country and work as “free help”.
    The Guardian has identified at least five “Organizing Fellows” on Clinton’s current field team in Iowa alone who held paid positions on national political campaigns during the 2014 midterm elections.
    “People with campaign experience with a cycle under their belt are being kind of held in this limbo position,” said one experienced campaign staffer who turned down a Clinton fellowship.
    The staffer, who asked not to be identified for fear of risking future job prospects, said they were aware of former colleagues being “asked to move out to a certain place under the auspices of getting a job and no guarantee”.
    Multiple political organizers and fair-wage advocates painted a picture of a candidate preaching economic opportunity while putting prospective employees in a bind: former campaign staffers are taking unpaid fellowships from now into August, with hopes of securing a job they expect to consist of almost the same responsibilities that they handle as fellows – only with the addition of a pay check and benefits.
    I see great things emerging from a Hillary victory!

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42. 

    fish

    13 June 2015

    Hey Mitt…..don’t go away angry,,,just go away!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/12/mitt-romney-gives-a-brutal-powerpoint-critique-of-obamas-foreign-policy/
    Sheesh…..no wonder the republican party is dying!

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43. 

    Jon

    13 June 2015

    fish, 100% agreement. That’s what you get with those Type A++ people running…they cannot leave the stage. Don’t know why Mitt doesn’t just go cut wood at his Utah ranch.

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    Jon

    13 June 2015

    fish, everyone in my house LOVES Sardines. We probably purchase 20% of the entire County’s consumption of sardines. Fish oil is real good stuff.

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45. 

    fish

    13 June 2015

    <i.Posted by: Jon | 13 June 2015 at 09:51 AM
    It has nothing to do with “Type A++” personalities. I doubt Mitt wants anything to do with another run at the White House! Not if he has a shred of sanity left. He’s got to know that it’s beyond fixing at this point.
    It has everything to do with the Eastern establishment Republicans attempting to foist another “Bob Dole” on the republican electorate…..we all know how well that worked out for them

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46. 

    Walt

    13 June 2015

    See the local fish wrap today? ( no offence to our Fish)
    Another ECO idiot claiming dams are unnecessary.
    http://www.theunion.com/opinion/16611674-113/jack-sanchez-we-dont-need-any-more-dams

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47. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 June 2015

    At least Mitt has his own money and is espousing American exceptional-ism. Jonnie’s boy Billary Clinton is swiping taxpayers money and is being paid for access. Plus Billary just can’t shut his mouth. I think Americans are sick of him and his wif. They need to go back to Arkansas and shuck corn.

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    Bill Tozer

    13 June 2015

    I’ll say one thing about Hillary that is not cruel, merely an imperial observation.
    Hillary is tight with the dollar. She, like Moi, is so tight she squeaks when she walks (or runs across the tarmac dodging bullets under heavy enemy sniper fire). Yep, she just can’t get enough of the greenback stuff. Never enough. Never has been, never will for her.
    To digress for a brief the sentence or six. Hillary Rodham Clinton reminds me bunches and bunches of Leona Hornsby. Married that filthy rich fellow and instantly got shot in the buttocks with diamonds. Lots of diamonds. Story goes she was at a horse race. She bought a two dollar ticket on the favorite.. Unfortunately in the excitement and thrill of victory, she lost the ticket, which the heavily favorite paid only $2.20. Hours after everybody left except her security, she was digging thru shredded and losinging tickets on the ground and in the stands searching in vain for her lost treasure. She simply could not and would not leave the empty race track until her lost ticket was found. It never was.
    So, Hillary is the same way. Oh, Bill and her were pissed to the max that the Obama campaign and by extention the DNC did not retire her 2008 campaign debt upon demand. Way pissed, livid in fact. Of course this was after she took the White House place settings, furniture, and a few portraits while moving out of the White House. They say the curtains still have her claw marks on them as they were carrying her out while she was still grabbing stuff from the little House on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
    Only Hillary Rodham would say they left the White House after 8 years broke. Said it will a sincere straight face. Oh, maybe Leona Hornsby Hilton would say she was broke as well after writing off those real gold thread bras as a business expense. In their minds they were broke.
    Only Hillary Rodham would deceive political staff to work for free. Like fire, she can never be satisfied. Her campaign war chest is busting at the seams, but her Fat Cat donations are down. She is broke and cannot pay staff…..unless they are sitting in waiting at the Clinton Foundation. Then, she pays ya 10k a month to get the real dollars rolling in for people she met on her State Department travels abroad.
    Yep, Fish, she is my kind of gal.

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49. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 June 2015

    oh Walt, I can’t afford to read the local fish wrapper anymore. I be broke. I do look at the Union’s headlines when I spy the paper in the rack, or sometimes I will stop by a laundromat and find an Union that somebody was reading but had to set down to put the clothes in the dryer. I love snagging the Union at the laundry room cause it’s free. Then I take it back to base camp and we all sit around the campfire reading the tattered newspaper over and over again for days as it gets passed around. Call me Billary II. Waste not, want not.

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50. 

    Walt

    13 June 2015

    DAMN!!! Hillary sure can pack them in!! Look at the standing room!!
    https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/609740462715310081/photo/1

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