[Whew! The 4jun15 sandbox got a bit rowdy. All good thoughts from there can be continued hereunder. gjr]

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218 responses to “Sandbox – 7jun15”
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Well. Ben, two things. First, you can push all you want, but you still need that personality, that face, the articulate clean Negro type who looks good on camera to push for your causes. Can’t get around that. You guys need just that one missing ingredient to bake your cake. Should be someone relatively good looking, likeable with charm and knows how to use humor at just the right time to warm people up to him/her (to speak to the masses on your behalf, of course). But, this person you need to really get the ball rolling and start the Big Momentum Wildfire across the fruited plains has to stay true to his core believes. He must mean what he/she says and say what he means. A person of color would be desirable, but not absolutely necessary. You, by friend, need a Ronald Reagen. You are in good company. Obama claimed he is Ronald Reagen come in the flesh and the Republicans are still looking for that Reagenesk personality. Personality with substance.
Secondly, now I know why you never will set foot in a Wal-Mart. White trash at its finest. Gives you whities a bad name.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2155986/walmart-fight-video-two-woman-brawl-in-shampoo-aisle/LikeLike
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Ben, I am beginning to see your point. We must grab pitchforks and brooms to sweep out this unbridled greed and scandalous disregard for ethics for personal enrichment. We shall cleanse our scared Halls of anyone who has corrupted our policall system. We must join forces and stop her.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/08/two-new-clinton-cash-scandals.htmlLikeLike
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Boy, after more reading, I fell sorry for you whities out there. Is this best you guys have? Heck, she is the number one frontrunner right now, beating both Dems and Republicans as well as all wannabes and all new comers.
Hillary is really giving your people a bad name. Whatever it takes, Ben and I and all people without a broken conscience or broken thinkers must join forces to clean up the flagrant corrupt money laundering going on by the Clinton’s themselves. If there was ever a poster child for shameless influence peddling and selling one’s soul to the highest bidder in our political election process, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s mug should be on it, as well as her mugshot hanging in every post office in our great land. Yep, Hillary makes me almost hate you honkies big time.
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What difference does it make anyway? I guess it all depends on what the meaning of “it” is. Boy, I like a little toughness in a canadate, but this kind of avoidance is not what I call “toughness”. Like being called an A-Hole just for asking the lovely bride where did all these dings, dents, and bangs on the new car come from?
What difference does it make anyhow.
http://downtrend.com/71superb/hillary-clinton-unleashes-her-inner-bitch-when-reporter-asks-a-simple-questionLikeLike
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Who does Josh Fox remind us of here? Claiming victory when the opposite is true.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/08/gasland-producer-kicked-off-fox-for-calling-host-a-liar/
Now why anyone is even giving this LIB idiot the time of day is beyond me.
Even the EPA had to eat their words.LikeLike
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Paul at 9:50 – “Not a big deal. Thanks for assuring me.”
Paul, you need to go back and read my posts. I said just the opposite.
Your problem is you can only say the word ‘Bush’. The fed govt shouldn’t be giving anyone money. Period. If it was Nader or Sanders handing out billions you would think it wonderful. You’re only against fraud if the parties involved are Rs or have the name of Bush attached some how. You strain against gnats and ignore the camel. If Bush never existed, we would have the same national debt and the same clowns running the show.LikeLike
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The “designated reader” hasn’t chimed in for awhile (in fact, I’ve found the FUE taking my name in vain without the “designated reader” making note), but let me share an observation… Jeff P is getting from one to zero comments on most of his postings. What’s an award winning journalist to do when readers disappear even when the words are free?
Jeff might eventually realize the energy on his blog in the old days wasn’t his doing… it was energy that was brought by a number of independent souls who chose to converse there who have all abandoned him. But then he might not.LikeLike
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I went and checked and it is true the FUE’s blog is a comment wasteland. Here GeorgeR let’s all things fly most of the time which is why blogs of conserves are much better and more fun than liberals like the FUE.
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That’s why he’s been posting here. His own blog is a desilite eco chamber.
Kind of like LIB radio. ( why bother?)
See? folks like the “old West” action. One guy behind the window peeking out, another taking shots from behind the horse trough, The one who dares walking down the middle of the street with guns blazing from both hands.
And our own “DOC” as sheriff who supplies the ammunition on a regular basis, to help those who don’t have enough of their own. ( or throw them in the pokey for shooting below the belt, or sets’m a swing’n (nuts that is) to give’m a chance)LikeLike
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“His own blog is a desilite eco chamber.”
Desilite? Is that Lucille Ball after the divorce?LikeLike
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Pardon my Latin Gregory. Sometimes I over do it, and it goes WAY over some heads.
He does respond to his own posts as a “second person”.LikeLike
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I guess it was shallow thinking on my part to believe a political party that controls the White House and both houses of Congress for six years can bring about significant change. Apparently this is only possible when Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are calling the shots in Congress.
I can always depend on the ruminators to straighten me out.LikeLike
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“O” sure know how to feed people the proverbial sh** sandwich.
His words on his Healthcare destruction.
““I mean, part of what’s bizarre about this whole thing is we haven’t had a lot of conversation about the horrors of Obamacare because none of them come to pass.”
Ohhhh REALLY????
More people than not are getting bills that are through the roof, and deductibles that are crippling.. Ya.. No horrors.
More people than not say shitcan it.LikeLike
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The operative word is “controls”, GB. If you only control a chamber by one or two seats, you can’t do that much besides parliamentary maneuvering.
Through arm twisting and earmarks from Hell, Reid was able to get his 60 vote cloture on Obamacare without a single Republican vote. That’s control that the GOP hasn’t had for nearly a century.
Yes, shallow thinking on your part. Like that climate denier hit piece of yours in The Union.LikeLike
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I don’t totally disagree with GeorgeB on Congress and Federal. I have been a proponent of “cut their budget” but that doesn’t seem to get anywhere. I do get mad at my party for refusing to cut the funds for departments like Education, EPA and others. The power of the purse.
However, even though the R’s had the House and Senate and the Prez for a few years, a lot of legislation was never given a vote in the Senate because of the “filibuster”. Democrats know how to stop most everything.LikeLike
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GB, I didn’t catch one of your errors properly… there was a GOP President, with GOP ‘controlled’ House and Senate for a total of six years of my entire life, and I’ll be eligible for Social Security soon. Two of those years had me dependent upon Mom for diaper changes. Bush II only had bare GOP majorities in both chambers for four years and the last two, leading up to the crash you and Paul E are demanding the GOP get equal blame for, those chambers were controlled by Pelosi and Reid.
Barney Frank, one of the chief carriers of water for the celebrated Government Sponsored Entities at the center of the financial collapse, was living with one of the directors of same for quite some time. Fannie Mae well have enjoyed that relationship.LikeLike
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No worries people. If there was ever a time for the poor bloke who drew the short straw and “volunteered” to become the designated reader, now is the best time to take a break. Heaven only knows what damage our designated reader was accumulated during his/her tour of duty over in enemy terrority. I say take a well deserved break, go for a long walk, take in a show, and regroup after some good R&R. I am fairly certain our designated reader will pick up exactly where it all left off no matter how long he/she/it is AWOL. It’s not like having a designated driver going MIA at closing time.
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“I have been a proponent of “cut their budget” but that doesn’t seem to get anywhere.”
Gingrich was the last Speaker who was able to get somewhere, but then he was laboring with a Democratic prez who, while perfectly capable of playing hardball, was at heart a dealmaker as prolific as LBJ and the two were able to get stuff done even if the budget balancing was with smoke and mirrors. There’s no way Boehner could balance the budget even if he wanted to without a bigger majority in the House and a Senate that could override an Obama veto. All that could happen with a real GOP-Tea Party tantrum is another episode of the GOP shutting down the government; no one in the press will notice it took two for that Tango.LikeLike
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I was listening to John Thune from South Dakota on the Senate floor this morning. He was railing against the EPA forcing a coal fired plant to do pollution upgrades. It is a new plant not finished and the coat of the plant is less than the new forced “upgrades” by the EPA! Anyway, I yelled at Thune and said “cut their budget”. Pisses me off.
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Posted by: George Boardman | 09 June 2015 at 10:53 AM
Uh no George….we’ve been treated on a daily basis to the “the Republicans are the party of the corporations and banks” (largely true in my estimation) from those seated on the left of this Peanut Gallery.
The real question is why the “progressive” party, the party of “the people”™, the party of the overlooked and powerless, the party of fairness and social justice……why that party did nothing when they controlled both the legislative and executive branches and had a brief window of opportunity to really implement some of the “Hope and Change”™ that the gullible American voter was promised?LikeLike
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GeorgeB 1053am – Not a problem Mr Boardman, RR and its commenters do our best to provide readers factual information, common wisdom correctives, and generally the straight poop according to our lights. Since you are a gentleman and man of letters, your contributions to set the record straight are always appreciated.
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“Then there’s conservatism’s current favorite whipping boy, human-caused climate change. They don’t care what the science says; they know in their hearts that it’s just an excuse to exert more control over our lives.” – George Boardman, The Union, 6/1/2015
Well, GB, here we are in the sandbox. While I’ve never self-identified as a conservative, I’ll wear the yellow star for you for a moment. Let’s play “Science Says”.
Do you really think “the science” talks through politically funded groups like the IPCC? Did you ever run across this statement in the ClimateGate emails regarding what papers to include in their IPCC Working Group report?:
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!” Phil Jones, University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit
Let’s play “Science Says”. Does science say to actively ignore inconvenient conclusions that were published in the peer reviewed literature? Let’s forget for the moment that probably well over half the peer reviewed literature is wrong in whole or in part… science is messy. The game you’re playing isn’t science, it’s argumentum ad vericundiam … citing authorities. That’s religion; you’re not looking for scientists, you’re looking for Priests. Then there’s “consensus”… that’s politics, not science.
Science talks to me directly, I don’t have to look for a priest or a politician to tell me what to think. Having read the popular press (including Scientific American, which drank the IPCC Koolaid years ago), I believed the basic AGW story with a grain of salt… no, the sensationalist claims of the Goracles seemed overblown, but the basics of CO2 driving warming because of its IR absorption characteristics made complete sense… except that when I dug into it myself, I found it wasn’t CO2 that was driving the projections but rather the IPCC’s Priests’multiplication of that by factors of 2 to 4 from theorized responses to that purturbation by the climate system, primarily positive feedbacks from increased water vapor from that little bit of increased evaporation… and assuming more water vapor wouldn’t result in more clouds.
Boardman, I don’t know which of the Trivial Arts you chose to study in high school and possibly college, but I slogged through math classes filled with math majors, chemistry classes filled with chemistry majors, engineering classes with engineers, physics classes with physicists, even played in a couple of symphonies. My education was Quadrivium all the way and Science speaks to me directly.
You?
At this time, we’ve gone by some datasets a full quarter century since there was statistically significant warming. We have fiddling (by the NOAA National Climate Data Center) with terrestrial dataset correction factors that have recently made the past cooler and the present warmer, but Phil Jone’s East Anglia CRU terrestrial dataset does not agree, and then there’s the inconvenient truth that two satellite datasets, and four radiosonde (weather balloon) datasets all pretty much agree with each other without all the fudge factors the NCDC is resorting to in order to make data agree with theory. Here’s one decent graph of the satellite/radiosonde data vs the IPCC’s computer model output
https://climatism.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/spencer-73-cmip5-model-fail.png
The whole warming meme is unwinding, slowly. I expect there will be bitter clingers in Sacramento among the last to see the light.LikeLike
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The problem with true believers in this Global Warming crapola is simple. They are sheeple and the facts mean nothing to them. I have met and know very intelligent people, college educated even, and they are all in. Why I ask? Because their shining lights tell them to believe it. So, needless to say I have lost some respect for some folks I thought were really reaaly smart. They believe things that uneducated tribesmen do in interior New Guinea!
GeorgeB is a true believer and nothing will shake his beliefs about “global warming”, nothing. All you facts mean zippo to them.LikeLike
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Bill,
God help us all if either another Clinton or Bush gets put in charge of our Executive Branch. Our country cannot take it. I consider the last 6 years with Obama an extension of Clinton I since he shared all his advisers and corporate friendly policies like the Free Trade Agreements and not regulating the financial sector. Obama has been an absolute disappointment on my end and I cannot believe a single democrat could defend his administration as a whole with a straight face. Are there some good spots in his administration, yes but they are few and far between.LikeLike
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OMG! I agree 90% with Be Emery. Is hell freezing over?
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Ben at 2:11 – “…and not regulating the financial sector.”
Yeah Ben – and next you’ll tell us there are no laws regulating driving down the road. There are shed loads of regulations and they’re driving small banks out of existance.
Who does Ben think should be pres? Bernie? How will it be different? Would Bernie have vetoed the pipeline? Either way, it wouldn’t be any different than an R or a D in the White House.
“Obama has been an absolute disappointment..” Signifying that you were suckered into believing the BS coming out of his mouth.
I had him pegged from the get-go. A big fat liar.LikeLike
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Gotta love ” well educated LIBS” sometimes. They show just how dumb they really are.
“Joyce Carol Oates, the 77 year-old author, professor, and Twitter-genius, condemned Oscar-winning director Steven Spielberg Tuesday for hunting down and killing a dinosaur. “So barbaric that this should still be allowed,” the feminist wrote. “No conservation laws in effect wherever this is?”
Apparently, in academia no one has ever heard of “Jurassic Park.” Oates is condemning a photo of Spielberg on the set of his 1993 blockbuster; he’s seated in front of an animatronic dinosaur used in the movie.”
This attached to a photo of Spielberg sitting next to a “dead” dino.LikeLike
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It is interesting how much effort the NY times is dedicating to attacking Marco Rubio, could that be an indication that they see him as the real threat? —- Hey 536 Walt it was on the internet so it must be true, right? LOL
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Todd@ 3:52 pm.
Mr. Todd. Hell might soon be freezing over in a few decades. It’s what historians call Climate Change.LikeLike
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Climate change? Thanks Bill for bringing that up.
So much for the “settled science”.
Seems many are not pleased with NOAA cooking the books
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/06/10/climate-scientists-criticize-government-paper-that-erases-pause-in-warming/LikeLike
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Thought I’d run this from Breitbart so you guys would feel comfortable.
“Rubio and Graham, both Republican Senators that are running for President president—refuse to answer, through spokespersons, whether they’ve gone to the secret room to read the TPP deal and whether they did before voting on TPA. Both Rubio and Graham voted for TPA, which would fast-track TPP—and at this point they’re both choosing through staff to give the public impression they didn’t read the secret text before they voted.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/03/2016-rubio-graham-refuse-to-answer-whether-they-read-obamatrade-before-voting-on-it/
We’ve got a couple of Gems here that don’t know what they’ve voted for because they were just following orders. Republicrats in action. Case closed. Hillary won’t say how she’d vote. I’m glad I don’g have to vote for any of thatilk.LikeLike
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Golly, George Boardman doesn’t appear to want to play Science Says. George R., maybe you’d like to join in.
Thinking back to my undergraduate years in physice, I think we looked to the national academies for guidance a total of, roughly speaking, zero times. Same for my graduate study in electrical engineering.
Was it any different for you?
The national academies seemed more oriented to prising grants out of the NSF.LikeLike
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why bring dongs into the conversation Paul E?
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Mystery solved. It’s been quiet over at the not to be mentioned mediocre Spelling Nazi blog because the webmaster has learned composition of thoughts and alcohol don’t mix. Best to lay low when the brain is foggy. It will get noisy again after he sleeps it off and takes a couple of aspirin in the morning.
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914 Walt- Its the keep saying it enough they will believe it theory. Just like the growers who are telling anyone who will listen that CA is inevitably going to go full legalizations of commercialized weed in 2016. Hey it worked for hitler why not keep trying the big lie, evidence not withstanding? Much like the growers/ASA poll on measure S that supposedly said it had 70% favorability. 2016 is going to be big fun on many levels!! 😉 hee, hee, hee!
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Gregory 949pm – I share your 202pm sentiments. Don’t recall looking to the national academies for anything during my schooling, nor do I recall any colleagues seeking or receiving guidance from such sources. Not exactly sure what they do besides burnish resumes.
PaulE 943pm – I’m still not convinced that you know the difference between the TPA and the TPP that I tried to clarify above. In any event, can you tell us why you are concerned about when people read the TPP in relation to when they voted on the TPA. The latter gives the prez fast-track authority to negotiate trade treaties and then have Congress study them before voting a treaty up or down. The former is one of many treaties to come that can be fast-tracked under the TPA. Congress can always do what they want whether the TPA is in place or not.LikeLike
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Besse
Go ahead and thump your chest because yes, rec pot will be legalized in 16 and yes, the business will be taken over by large corporate indoor grows and the mom and pop operations will be left out. That’s what you wanted right? Great for our local economy.LikeLike
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DonB, yes the pot lovers will probably prevail and the country will be wrecked within a generation in my opinion. As the Chinese comes to California’s shores with their army, they will be greeted by Paul and his bus holding a fatty.
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Todd
I’m astounded by your lack of confidence! I thought you believed the Repubs were going to sweep and we’d be back to the good old days kicking ass and taking names like we did in Grenada and other Republican led expeditions. I’m really disappointed and didn’t realize you had a self esteem problem being a Republican.LikeLike
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Just what we need Paul, more piss poor informed voters. Get’m stoned so they comprehend even less.
But the ASA dopers claimed to have the election in the baggie, but ended up drinking bong water.
As for “big dope” they are already greasing the palms in Sac. THEY will be writing the growing regs. Nothing new in that world of “high” dollar politics.
Your ECO pals have been doing that for decades. Mandating the use of given products.
From gas pumps to gas cans, mandatory use of building products, “special this, and special that. All mandated by Sac. So why should dope be any different?”Mom and Pop” will be regulated right out of the picture.
Buy HAY! Legal weed! ( as they say,, be careful of what you wish for)
Then you can bet your Birkenstocks that “big dope” will copyright all the good names for weed.Right down to the current MMJ logo, and any other style they can dream up.
Any “dope store” will have to buy from “big dope”
It’s already happening Paul,, it’s on the down low so your not going to hear about it.
LIBS love their secret back room deals too. ( you know,, the kind you accuse Repubs of loving)
Better get your activists down to the Capital and start the protests now against “big dope”. But your clan better bring checkbooks, since that’s the ONLY language Sac. LIBS understand. ( uh,, get your permit to hold that rally. The Tea Party had to, and ASA is not special)LikeLike
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Well, Obama finally has stopped giving the middle finger to the Courts and hopefully has ceased and desisted from fudging and sneaking around behind the Courts’ back implementing his Executive Orders anyway (we hope). We are still, at times, a nation of laws not feelings and we still have, at times, what is known as the balance of powers.
Glad to see our President is taking the word “no” so well as evidenced by his smiling “No Drama Obama” facial expressions when quieted about it.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-cries-uncle-shielding-5-041500140.htmlLikeLike
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I see the press is after Marco Rubio and his wife for truly being regular people. Meaning, golly he and his wife are not rich and have failed to pay some traffic tickets. Juxtapose that with the Hillary and Bill gazillions raised from questionable “donors”. The Clinton’s never held a private sector job either. Always on the taxpayers dime. Sure Rubio probably has made some errors but it appears he is honest for the most part. I am a Walker guy but I take no pleasure in decent people getting their lives trashed by the press.
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Perhaps Boardman is lurking… George, here are three scientists you should heed (and an author who mostly gets it right):
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Screen_shot_2015-06-05_at_10.03.51_AM.png
George Boardman, pay attention to Popper, Feynman and Einstein, they’re all saying the same thing. The Jeb Bush comment that you used to illustrate the silliness of Jeb Bush is merely a restatement of the Popper quote found at the above link, though I’d bet it was his speechwriter who came up with it.
Actual scientists have a much different take on science than the Boardmans of the world do, and it is a foreign concept that scientific theories can’t be proven true no matter how many authorities salute it when run up the flagpole. Einstein is literally correct… it would only take one experiment to prove him wrong even now. Some think that has already happened, but reality will not collapse if that is the case.
The left looks at how the anti-left ‘denies’ climate change and concludes it’s politics that lead them to not listen to what “science says”. Eventually, the left will be looking at their hysterical belief in climate change and wonder why their politics led them to ignore Popper, Feynman and Einstein.LikeLike
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Posted by: George Rebane | 10 June 2015 at 08:46 AM
Before my time here at RR’s but that was an epic display of “Goalpost Moving” by Anna HaynesLikeLike
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There has been too much agreement lately. Here is a comment that will get our equilibrium back.
It must be getting tough around here to continue to deny and keep your heads in the sand about the unequal justice system and law enforcement towards people of color. Sounds like pure racism caused this incident, kids were members and invited guests.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/09/us/mckinney-texas-pool-party-video/index.html
“‘It’s the first step’
Tatyana Rhodes, who was hosting a party at the pool Friday before police arrived, said tensions were running high after a racially charged fight broke out there. It started, she said, when two white women told a group of African-American teens they should leave and “go back to their Section 8 homes.”One of the women, she said, smacked her in the face.
Chief Calls Actions Of Officer From McKinney, Texas, Pool Party Video ‘Indefensible’
excerpt from interview
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/6/9/pulling_a_gun_on_a_pool
AARON MATÉ: Cheryl Dorsey, the issue of how this whole incident started, the teens were at a pool party. Apparently, some — there was a dispute between some white residents and some of the black teens with the white residents hurling epithets at the black teens and that was the so-called disturbance that spurred this officer’s response.
CHERYL DORSEY: Right. And so, with that as a backdrop, when he comes in, what he should have done is he should have contacted the reporting party, interview that person to find out what was going on, and then attempt to locate and identify the person that was hosting the party to further conduct an investigation. And none of that happen. It seems as though he merely took the word of the white residents, that the black teens were not there legally, permissibly and then just went about corralling them and harassing them and talking to them in a way that was profane and offensive. And, you know, since he’s a training officer, I am concerned because we also see him on video barking orders to the junior officers, go get that mf-er. And they just followed him blindly. So I’m wondering if this isn’t a problem that is maybe systemic throughout the department. If this is your police officers are training younger officers, is this condoned? Is this behavior appropriate? I think not.LikeLike
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While you are all in a tither about a few kids being arrested for being shi##y to police, their race in Chicago killed another twenty on the streets. You are simply picky in your outrage. All liberals are fools.
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A little sumth’n from the pit master in training. A great day to fire up the BBQ.
I picked up a nice prime rib chunk of meat from SPD Yesterday.(about 3LBS.) ( Humm.. what to do with it?) I decided to go the simple rout. Not too much salt, yet an ample rubbing of Lowry’s season salt,, and Black pepper. Nothing radical.(this time) I’m going with cherrywood chunks all day, @ 280 deg. and keep the smoke heavy.
Now to wait and see what happens.LikeLike
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Ben – that’s one of the worst examples of supposed racial biais.
The fact is that the woman lied about getting permission for the party. She hadn’t. The ‘children’ were smoking dope and drinking booze. They weren’t supposed to be going over the fence into the pool. The girl wrestled to the ground was disobeying the officer. The officer became surrounded by some males, one of whom started reaching for something in his waistband. At that point, the officer drew his gun on that individual and the kid ran away. The officer re-holstered his gun. It wouldn’t have mattered what color skin the kids had. They shouldn’t have been there and many ignored the cops orders.
But Ben wants his racism and will have it no matter what the facts are.
The funniest part is the folks complaining that the cop was swearing. Yet the boom box was blasting out all sorts of profanity. My, how their tender little ears must have hurt hearing the cop swear.LikeLike
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Now here is a good one. Moon Beam has put out the welcome mat for every illegal he can get to come here, now bitches about overpopulation. ” WE are in a drought!”
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/10/jerry-brown-worries-about-overpopulation-amid-ca-drought/
Note the job loss as well. Kinsa shoots holes in someone else’s post about on how well
Ag. jobs are. ( last years stats)LikeLike
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