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Sandbox – 1jun15

01 June 2015

[New month, new sandbox. The 30may15 sandbox seems to have turned into a kitty litter box with all the congealed poop balls flying back and forth. Perhaps the participants there will want to retain that venue for continuing those enthusiastic labors and use this new one for more edifying discourse. I for one am interested in what readers think about the Patriot Act's renewal and the trade-offs between our liberties and security. gjr]

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243 responses to “Sandbox – 1jun15”

Russ Steele

01 June 2015

George Boardman destroys his credibility in latest Union Column. Details here: http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2015/06/01/boardmans-credibility-blown/

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George Rebane

01 June 2015

RussS 1259pm – Might also point you to ‘Ruminations – 30may15 (updated 1jun15)’ and its comment thread.

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Don Bessee

01 June 2015

Cracking up at the box office numbers of colony’s global warming movie Tommorowland, looks to be a quarter billion dollar bomb of cosmic proportions . Guess you can only spew the same trumped up doom and gloom for so long before folks tire of the disinformation.

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Walt

01 June 2015

I read that too Don.. Seems parents just are not going to let their kids get brainwashed this time.

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

I saw the movie and it was not very good. Jeeze I must be dense, I did not make the AGW connection.

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Russ Steele

01 June 2015

George@12:59PM I did an update and posted a link as you suggested. If Mr Boardman would like more information on AGW he can also visit Watts Up With That and do a search on the term. However, I recognize that he gets to choose the science he believes in, right up to the killing frost in June and July snow storms.

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Walt

01 June 2015

This gives a whole new meaning to “holy smoke”. ( no,, the church didn’t burn down,, but the parishioners sure “burned one down”.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/1/marijuana-church-wins-tax-exempt-status-in-indiana/
Now where did I put my certificate as an ordained Minister of the Church of Monday night Football? ( remember that?)

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

Hey where is “Joe Smith”? That troll is a hoot!

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Walt

01 June 2015

“joe””jon” is a little embarrassed from getting caught last night shedding his skin.

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Don Bessee

01 June 2015

Todd, he is trying to remember which device he uses for which name. lol

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Bill Tozer

01 June 2015

Little Joe is with Hoss and Adam riding out to save jon boy and Pa in the little burning house on the prairie dog companion.

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Walt

01 June 2015

He must have got the new Vanity Fair mag. and is uhh,, a little busy.

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Bill Tozer

01 June 2015

Mystery solved. Found out where joe jon smith went off to. Glad he shot her instead of me. She wasn’t half bad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DpkDdLZGg30

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Paul Emery

01 June 2015

George
The poop is already flying. thanks for the noble effort. It must be frustrating.
Once again my hats off to Rand Paul. He is being trashed by the so called Conservative Republican Presidential hoard.

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

Paul Emery, glad to see you are finally supporting a Republican. I expect you will be voting for Rand Paul now?
Joe Smith is missing and the DA from Baltimore is on the job.

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Scott Obermuller

01 June 2015

Paul – welcome to the dark side. Where the poor are abondoned to starve and gazillionaires light their cigars from the burning food stamps of hungry children. Pray tell – what has caused this change of heart?
And please don’t worry about we true conservatives. Nothing frustrating about simply quoting available facts. The greens have been a little too open about what their true aim is. The free market and capitalism have to go in order to ‘save’ the earth. Or are you going with Bernie?
Poor Paul – what to do, what to do?

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Bill Tozer

01 June 2015

Paul, glad you are liking Brother Rand. Now, being from Kentucky, he will probably get the red neck beer drinking ignorant hillbillie extremist Tea Party label by some in the hallowed halls of academia and media. . Some Republicans even have a sense of humor…..might be at least a half dozen out there. That is about 6 more than the Dems have.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QK3Eo9cScEQ

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George Rebane

01 June 2015

PaulE 628pm – Yep, I am getting a bit pissed that the boys can’t shake their ‘joe’ or ‘jon’ or … fetish. It is becoming more than tedious since they think their repartees are exactly what others want to read. My advice for them is to leave the labels and mind the message.

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Bill Tozer

01 June 2015

Paul, you are a man of peace. Brother Ben is a man of peace. Make love not war, make babies not bombs and all that stuff. Candidate Obama was also a man of peace and said Islam the Religion of Peace created “the very fabric of our country.” Don’t see why you turned sour on him. Is it because he is black, is it Paul???
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTgenwl2aA

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

Back to the Patriot Act. I am fascinated by the democrats supporting it. I thought they were bashing the R’s as being these patriotic fools, flag carrying yahoos who were making up terrorist ploys so the right could take over our shoes and belts at the airport. But in this DC world of shenanigans, up is down and black is white. I am confused. Help!

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Walt

01 June 2015

This just in. Score one for TROLLS.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/01/scotus-vindicates-right-to-say-insane-things-on-the-internet/

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Walt

01 June 2015

But Todd.. It was the Left crying foul from the highest of the trees when it was originally signed into law. MY how their tune has changed. It’s OK when it’s “their” administration doing the domestic spying. ( never mind not one terrorist has be bagged with it.)

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Jon

01 June 2015

Hey Todd, maybe its because you live in an unnatural, simplistic, black and white world. The real world is a really interesting place if you take the time to appreciate it. Its a palate of colors and blends and nuances. Might lead to less confusion even. Seriously Todd, I really hope you will understand this before you pass from this world into dust.

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Scott Obermuller

01 June 2015

Ah, yes. jon-the-troll explains why he can aver one thing one day and the opposte the next. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s a palate of colors.

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Jon

01 June 2015

Its a big world Scotty, full of surprise and nuance. Nothing you say is going to change that…ie, why you hardliners will be perpetually frustrated by the turn of history.

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Walt

01 June 2015

Some big words from a basement dweller. Is the lack of accomplishment that brings out that anger?

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George Rebane

01 June 2015

But how is it that there is both bipartisan support for renewing the Patriot Act, and also bipartisan opposition to it? Does that kind of response remove the issue of the state spying on its citizens from the polarized regions and place it somewhere near the equator? Have we finally met a federal decision that can be argued on the basis of shared principles and existential interests?

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Walt

01 June 2015

As I recall, it began as looking only at communications coming and going to outside nations, and of questionable origin. That has since changed to mass collection in every way shape and form. Even the courts have said the NSA has gone too far.
On a side note, Erica Holder ( The AG) won’t do squat about what the gov. has done to the citizens ( IRS VS Tea Party anyone?) or dealing with illegals flooding in,, yet has the time to dig into soccer corruption, and now how movie theaters do business.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-investigates-theater-clearance-practices-at-amc-1433171433
I’m SO glad the LIB DOJ has their priorities right.

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Paul Emery

01 June 2015

Bill writes:
“Don’t see why you turned sour on him. Is it because he is black, is it Paul???”
What the hell are you talking about Bill. All I wrote recently is that I applaud Rand Paul ‘s stand against the NSA. Where and why did you come up with that?

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Paul Emery

01 June 2015

Todfd
there’s lots to like about Rand Paul and fundamental things I disagree with him about. The most important thing is that there be a rise of independent candidates to break the power of the Republicratic Party. Rand will probably be squashed by the so called moderates so voting for him is a far flung possibility. If he was nominated and kept his independence I would give him serious consideration, especially if he ran as a Libertarian and dumped the Pubbers.

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Jon

01 June 2015

Walt, can you tell us the correct name of the current Attorney General of the US? You mentioned Erica.

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Jon

01 June 2015

Paul, cannot agree more. If he could seriously discover a domestic sense of morality in topics of the poor, healthcare, etc, I could consider the man. The good news is that now Rand has nothing to lose with the party going forward. Going to be very, very interesting in the Pubber debates with Rand in the mix.

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Walt

01 June 2015

Of course I can “jon”,, we already knew she would be Holder 2.0
Finally someone from Hollywood who isn’t afraid to risk it all. ( a Brit no less)
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/01/hollywood-actor-who-left-everything-behind-to-fight-isis-they-need-to-be-obliterated-video/

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Scott Obermuller

01 June 2015

“If he was nominated and kept his independence I would give him serious consideration, especially if he ran as a Libertarian and dumped the Pubbers.”
But, Paul – why not give him serious consideration now?
No govt interference with private business. Doesn’t that alone put the thrill up your legs?
Now – there’s still time to consider that socialiast fellow. He’s trying to give Shrillery a run for her money. And he’ll sock it to the Koch bros. Give them the what-for. I thought he was your man.

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Jon

01 June 2015

What’s her name then, “Walt”? If you think she’s a Holder 2.0, then you don’t know anything about her.

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Jon

01 June 2015

Walt, do you have any other links in your favorites besides the very boring and patronizing Dailycaller and FauxNews.com? Come on, they’ve become ho-hum moderate mainstream. Have you checked out WorldNetDaily yet? Seriously, great stuff for you in there Walt!

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

I repeat Paul Emery, glad you are now supporting a Republican. Jon is almost there too. Soon you will be pulling the slot for a R! Great.
Regarding my world view “jonnie”. I think perhaps you may be a lot myopic and trail me greatly in intelligence and accomplishments. You seem like one of those “Monday morning” people who really have nothing on their resume’ except a lot of yapping. I blame your momma for that. Put on some big boy pants and join the adults. Oh and learn how to spell please.

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Jon

01 June 2015

If the election was held today, Bernie would gather votes for President right now than all but about 2 of the big money Pubbers.
Forgetting about Ole’ Denny Hastert for a minute..cough…I have a couple of moral questions to those aligned with the party of morality, the Republicans. Is Koch Brothers money considered a virtue in the election cycle? Is it consistent with Scott’s Christian values that the Kochs can spend a BILLION dollars of self interest money in an attempt to sway an election? Is there accumulation of ungodly wealth consistent with Christian doctrine? If so, please cite the biblical references for me. Thanks.

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Walt

01 June 2015

Naa,, you tell me, and I will let you know if your right. Now no google searches, that would be cheating. ( not that ya’ really give a damn)
OK,, question to think about.. Is giving up liberty for security worth it?
What did Ben Franklin have to say of that? ( I agree with Franklin)
I was fer it before I was agin’ it. ( the Patriot act,, that is.)

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Jon

01 June 2015

Ah Walt, we caught you not knowing the AG.. Its OK, really “Walt”, we all make mistakes and miss things. Its tough to keep up with the reality when you have to sift through the thousands of DailyCaller articles every day!

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Jon

01 June 2015

Walt, do I detect the slightest of slight support for Rand Paul’s stance on the Patriot Act? If so, kudos are in order for your honesty. If you are still in the closet there, is it because you won’t get an invite to the next Pubber Picnic or something? You don’t need no picnic, you’ve got your own BBQ heaven. Just forget about those planes monitoring the smoky plumes…

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Jon

01 June 2015

Todd, if I spelled something wrong I sincerely accept the mistake. I did catch one boo-boo, the old “there” instead of “their.”
Oh and believe it or not, in my former dumb days, I did pull the lever for a few R’s back in the 80s. Todd you will also be heartened to know that my mother was a staunch, mainstream Republican party member back in the day. Our family fortunately evolved as we discovered the real world.

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Todd Juvinall

01 June 2015

Before I go hit the hay, jonnie, how do you feel about the George Soros money, the billions he has, spending it on democrats and socialist candidates. Seeing how he made his money on playing money games with nations currencies, is that the same as the Koch brothers money? I mean their money employs 60,000 people and a major part of the economy.
Speaking of “morality” where did you get the idea the R’s are uptight? You are way behind the curve, maybe even a 50’s socialist for thinking those on the right are preaching. Sure maybe a couple do that but your candidates are also preaching the Gospel. Does that lose them your vote?

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Walt

01 June 2015

I have nothing to prove to someone who still lives with ma’ma.
It’s vary telling that you dodge my questions. What was Ben Franklin’s views on said matter? Lets see if you have any smarts at all.

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Walt

01 June 2015

Why am I not surprised “jon” would cast a vote for “perv” Sanders? ( and a needle bending Socialist)

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Walt

01 June 2015

Here is one for “jon”,, It’s always fun to see AGW kooks make fools of themselves.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/01/epic-fail-climate-change-voters-attempt-to-protest-scott-walker-nh-cruise-with-floating-iceberg-people-dressed-as-moose/

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fish

02 June 2015

PaulE 628pm – Yep, I am getting a bit pissed that the boys can’t shake their ‘joe’ or ‘jon’ or … fetish.
Sorry George. It’s just that it’s entertaining to see someone…..cough….Former Union Editor….cough…cough who was so vehement about both decorum and proper identification while blog posting who seems to show up in so many guises while behaving so badly away from his sandbox.

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Bill Tozer

02 June 2015

The real fact is Hillary Rodham Clinton is popular and she knows it. Popular enough to garner a sizeable slice of the electorate. She just might follow in Slick Willy’s footsteps and fail to get 50% of the vote, yet sit in the Oval Office. It’s no secret that Biily Bob really really wanted to break into the magic 50% mark for his legacy. A goal which eluded him and now set in stone as a two time winner of the Presidential elections with achieving a majority.
It is also no secret that I do not like Hillary one iota. Here is just one of many reasons why. She sings the populist tune while lining her pockets (both personal and campaign war chests) with the 1%ers’ ungodly gifts and donations. I don’t really care she is in bed with successful wealthy people per se. Afterall, you don’t want to hang out with the mediocre types for input and picking another’s brains. Nothing wrong in and of itself with rubbing elbows with successful people or the giants of industry and proven leaders of various walks of life.
But, for Pete.s sake, just drop the rich bashing and quit pretending you really are just one of the unwashed masses in your heart of hearts, Mrs. Clinton.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-01/hedge-fund-giant-tells-hillary-clinton-to-cut-the-crap-?cmpid=yhoo

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Bill Tozer

02 June 2015

Opps. Words have meaning. Last sentence of first paragraph should have said “without achieving a majority.” The goal that eluded Bill and perhaps Billary.

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Bill Tozer

02 June 2015

Paul soured on Obama because he is black. He just cannot handle a black man as President. That ready gets his goat along with the term “raghead.”
Do I believe that our own Paul is a closet racist? Not at all. But, when he had leveled such broad brush allegations at those on the Right, I just wanted to give him a taste of his own medicine. And he don’t like it one smidgen. 🙂

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