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Sandbox – 28may15

28 May 2015

[Well, all the liberal palaber about Common Core being just standards and not specific requirements for curricula is just so much BS as states are now beginning to find out. Climate change propaganda has been inserted as a required topic ranging from grade through middle to high school. Students will have AGW drilled into their heads without debate, much like the Catholics and Calvinists ran their religious schools. See 'Schoolroom Climate Change Indoctrination' by Paul Tice in the 28may15 WSJ. gjr]

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256 responses to “Sandbox – 28may15”

Jon

30 May 2015

Paul, exactly. Near silence on Rand Paul’s stand against the Patriot Act, the single largest intrusion by the Federal government in American history. Where are the anti-government voices of the right?

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George Rebane

30 May 2015

Jon 402pm – don’t know the whereabouts of the anti-government voices (in fact, I haven’t read any voices here that are against having a government), but I do know what a conservetarian thinks about America’s ability to project force globally. As we pull back again into our isolationist shell, and just concern ourselves with our coastal waters, we invite what is happening at great speed in Russia and China. The ‘savings’ in not being able to project globally always come home to roost at a terrible price that turns out to have been no savings at all. We will see it soon in the Far East as our Asian pivot turns into another poorly executed Obama divot. And for that reason alone, this conservetarian will be looking beyond Rand Paul.

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Todd Juvinall

30 May 2015

“jonnie” we have to have a government so where are those anti’s you are talking about? Maybe at the DailyKos or “Progressives United”?
I am not to keen on taking off my shoes at the airport but if the same care is taken at the planes belly, I guess I can put up with it. Regarding the government listening in on conversations. They say they don’t unless you are a terrorist threat. Is that right? So if so, why would you be against that?
Rand Paul’s world view is just like his dad’s and I disagree with it. I am surprised that you libs who are always lecturing us on “one world”, or think globally act locally (or vice-versa), do not have the same feelings about ISIL and Islamic terroists overruninng the place. Why is that?

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fish

30 May 2015

Funny….your health care costs….getting progressively higher!
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428.html

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Walt

30 May 2015

Well smartass “jon”,, you tell us. With all the domestic spying and not one terrorist caught. Not even the ones who tried to shoot up a cartoon drawing event.
“They” say after the fact,, that “they were on their radar”. Yaaaa.
Your boy “O” is a paper tiger and all the bad guys know it. Even China is flexing it’s new found might, because they know “O” is nutless.
We sure showed Putin who’s boss, didn’t we?
Then of course, trading 5 terrorists for one traitor. LIBS just can’t wait to have the fighting in our own streets.

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Jon

30 May 2015

Wow Walt that’s quite a list of nations where you want to take the fight to the bad guys. You’d open several fronts, ha? Where would you send in ground troops first? Or would you order bombing missions in multiple nations? How would you structure the inevitable draft? Come on there General Dirtmover. Talk is cheap for you War Hawks.

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Russ Steele

30 May 2015

Quote of the day:
Weird, all 3 Dem candidates keep talking about how things have gotten worse over past seven years. This seems newsworthy.

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Bill Tozer

30 May 2015

Good one Mr.Steele. Gov. M threw his hat into the ring today to challenge the old aging incapable of multi-tasking broad. Heck, she can’t even handle 2 e-mail accounts and wants us to vote her in as the Leader of the Free World.
Gov. M’s campaign slogan is Time For New Leadership. The Clinton campaign is pissed off cause by inference, Hillary is part of the old leadership. Wonder how much she will pay him to walk away? Ole Bubba Bil Clinton, the Man from Hope, paid Jesse Jackson a few million to drop out of sight. Jesse has his priorities, and it wasn’t no Rainbow Colilation.. He snatched the cash and skedaddled off the map.
Time for new leadership is right. It only took Obama less than 7 years to rip this country apart, a new record. That be old leadership, just like Jesse and Bill, Jet Setting Barry, and that brilliant old broad (the smartest woman in America) who flunked the Bar Exam and moved to AK. Billy got her a job sitting on the Board of Wal-Mart….
Hmmm, who called the former First Lady the smartest lady in America? Was it not former Speaker Dan R. from the bankrupt state of Illinois? Does anybody know if he is still alive, or did he die in prison? Well, his checks never stopped coming in due to his service to our country. Under him, we all got serviced, screwed, blued, dipped, and tattooed. That be old leadership. Hillary is more dank than skank.

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Walt

30 May 2015

Really “jonney” boy.. President nutless has done a bang up job in foreign affairs.
All those “red lines” drawn in water color before the rain storm.
You think Europe and Japan would be what they are today (peace wise) if the U.S. had dragged everyone home after the surrenders of WWII? Free Europe would be in Russian hands,
and full blown Red Commie. Or even worse, what the Middle East is right now. OH JOY…
LIBS are real good at losing conflicts, and setting the world on fire.
China see “O” for what he is, and has grown a pair, and looking to land grab just like Russia.
How bout all those Russian bombers testing everyone’s air space? The last one up North, we didn’t even send planes up.
HELL! The military is even moving back into cheyenne mt. due to fears of an EMP attack.
( look into that smart guy)
“O” and Co. are too busy going after political enemies here at home. nevermind the ones out to do the U.S. harm.
That’s why LIBS are done come the next election. And the chances of a LIB getting elected President for decades to come will be slim to none. The nation is done with LIBS in general. The last three elections should give you a clue.

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Paul Emery

31 May 2015

So who are they going to vote in Walt? Be brave!! Give us a name.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Walt, 2 elections back was in 2012. How did the Republicans do- Congressional, Senate and Presidential?
And how about some foreign policy specifics and proposed ways to counter all those bad guys you point out. At least George Pataki has proposed a full shipment of US ground troops into the Middle East. Are you a Pataki backer? Whats he polling at these days?

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Bill Tozer

31 May 2015

Well, here is another example of why the Gang Who Couldn’t Shoot Straight fail so miserably when it comes to foreign policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/kerry-suffers-leg-injury-in-bicycle-accident-transported-to-hospital/2015/05/31/24bd2630-077a-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html
He should have stuck with windsurfing.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Walt, if you don’t really know who Pataki is, you can also get behind tough guy Chicken Haw Rick Santorum, who also proposes ground troops in Syria and Iraq to fight ISIS mano-o-mano. What a brave American that Santorum. Oh wait, has Santorum won an election in the last 15 years for anything? May be a slight problem for Rick.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Tozer, Kerry is a real life SNL skit when it comes to sports injuries. Swimming might be more his style.

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Bill Tozer

31 May 2015

Mr. Jon. So, it has come to this.
http://www.moviesoundclips.net/sound-clip.php?id=3617

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Bill Tozer

31 May 2015

I knew it, I just knew it. The times they are a’ hanging. I noticed it about 12 years ago when a friend raided my boxer shorts to wear…in public!! She was a trend setter. And the daughters started raiding my underwear drawer as well. More trend setters. I had to switch to tightly whities so my drawer would not be empty getting ready for work and kissed my boxer shorts goodbye. Now my briefs are being threatened. Guess that makes me a trend setter as well.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102713864

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Walt

31 May 2015

LOL.. LIBS save a seat or two, and yell “victory”.
Nevermind the fact that the Tea Party swept the nation at the local levels, save for a few islands of blue here and there.
But keep that LIB chin up “jon”,, come next election it’s going to get another good smack.
Gotta love the two faced LIB. If a REP. had said what Bernie Sanders did, there would be hell to pay.

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George Boardman

31 May 2015

Maybe it was past his bedtime, but Walt showed a shaky grasp of history when he write at 10:53 PM that “LIBS are real good at losing conflicts…”
The last time I checked, Wilson (WWI) and FDR (WWII) were Democrats, while Nixon (Vietnam) was a Republican. Then there’s Bush II’s declaration of mission accomplished in Iraq in 2003. How did work out, Walt?

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Jon

31 May 2015

George,
You just gotta love the nervous LOL Walt put up when his ridiculous proclamation about elections and leaders gets smacked down.
Let it be said again- Walt sticks to his principles, even if his statements lack one iota of merit! He will never let reality interfere with the RightWingBlogNetwork narrative.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Walt or Todd,
I know, I know, the narrative is that Romney lost in 2012 because he the base stayed home.
OK, but can you give us ONE example of a Romney position in 2012 that was less than conservative? List the moderate positions he staked out please. Thanks.

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George Rebane

31 May 2015

GeorgeB 1122am & Jon 1150am – Before you dun Walt’s reading of history (didn’t know he was referring to wars), let’s remember that the Vietnam mess belonged to JFK and LBJ. Nixon ran on getting our troops out of Vietnam’s civil war and did so in 1973 (Saigon fell in 1975). And Bush2 left Obama with a stable Iraq, and a military policy for keeping it stable to support a rational withdrawal plan that would not invite every raghead within 500 miles to attack Iraq. How did that work out for that master of foreign policy now in WH??

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Larry Wirth

31 May 2015

Steve F, from way upthread: Telling Todd that he “has no and cannot get any evidence” that the recent Asian jaunt was paid for by taxpayers doesn’t amount to an actual denial. To a logical mind, it looks like an admission.
For more detail, see recent comments by Clintonista spokespersons. L

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Todd Juvinall

31 May 2015

“Jon” America has unfortunately been involved in many “conflicts” some good some bad. Liberals have shown no guts in the historic record of fighting and winning very often. President Wilson was responsible for America’s entry into WW1 during the last year and half of that war. He was forced to because the Germans were sinking our ships. I applaud Wilson for doing the right thing but you will never applaud a Republican or a conservative for doing the right thing because you are the true ideologue. Tell us “Jon” if you support the “Monroe Doctrine”. Also, do you believe the “Gadsden Purchase” was a good thing for the country? I am sure there will be crickets.
Larry Wirth 12:03 PM
You are correct. The reason this comes up about Frisch and the taxpayers paying for his Red China trip (an he extolled their virtues upon return) is he told the world. Now it appears he is hiding the truth by not accounting for the trip and its expenses. He is in the “Clinton” world of non-profits it seems.

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Paul Emery

31 May 2015

George
Bush left Iraq with Nouri al-Maliki as Prime Minister. Stable Iraq? You must be kidding

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George Rebane

31 May 2015

PaulE 146pm – Stable Iraq indeed, and one which even Obama would give his left nut to have today instead of ISIS owning half of the country. (Not to worry about that left nut, he is burdened by neither.)

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Walt

31 May 2015

Yes, Nixon had to throw in the towel and bring U.S. troops home in defeat, since DEM. armchair generals in the previous DEM Administration tied the troops hands.
Do some need a reminder of how that game was played? The “wizz kids” and counting bullets?
No need for guns in fighter jets because we had missiles? Then there was telling Hanoi just where we would strike next? Taking ground, just to give it back the next day. (over and over again) Just a few examples. Oh,, and the same point in time where lawyers got in on the action.
Yes,, ever since then it was down hill when LIBS ran conflicts. The ONLY time things got at least half way accomplished is when Repubs were in charge.
Them moment a LIB got in the W.H. the current conflict went to hell in a handbasket.
fast forward to “O”.(The Father of ISIS) Bush left Baghdad streets safer than Detroit’s, and look what has changed since “O” did his thing. The whole Middle East is on fire.
Every Commie empire is sabor rattling, looking to stick it to us.
Yaa.. tell me again LIBS know how to win wars. ( tucking tail and running is not winning)

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Paul Emery

31 May 2015

George you seem to forget that Bush signed an agreement to leave a rack by 2011 and Malachi demanded that that happened. Obama was only following Bushes agreement.
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United “States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.[1] The pact required criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and required a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that were not related to combat.[1] U.S. contractors working for U.S. forces would have been subject to Iraqi criminal law, while contractors working for the State Department and other U.S. agencies would retain their immunity. If U.S. forces committed still undecided “major premeditated felonies” while off-duty and off-base, they would have been subjected to an undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certified the forces were off-duty.[2][3][1][4]”
That was pasted as best I can from my iPad

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Jon

31 May 2015

The rewriting of history here is astounding. Walt- no suprise. The troops hands were tied in Vietnam? What did they really want to do, Walt? I’m fascinated with your personal version of events.

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George Rebane

31 May 2015

PaulE 226pm – To claim that Bush2’s agreement with Malaki somehow tied our hands is ludicrous. Both sides knew the 2008 agreement was a political showpiece for their respective constituencies. The real decision would be made three years later, at which time Obama was in office and Maliki was already pleading that Americans not abandon Iraq completely. But it served Obama’s promises and purposes to withdraw from the middle east, which withdrawal was halted when Iraq became unstable and the situation in post-withdrawal Afghanistan promised to reprise Iraq.
In the meantime Obama was promising a ‘pivot to Asia’ which has not gone all that well given how his leadership has been assessed and advantaged by Putin, Khamenei, and Xi.

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Don Bessee

31 May 2015

‘jon’ or whatever is clearly devoid of any historical perspective on the indo-china wars. Go read some actual history, something other that hufpo and you could perhaps gain some knowledge. Then you would not have to dribble your lefty dogma talking points so pathetically.

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George Rebane

31 May 2015

Readers will again note the almost diametrically opposite understandings of history that contribute to the division between the Right and Left. Without even a partially shared view of our past, how are we to join in planning our communal future?

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Todd Juvinall

31 May 2015

Jonnie and Paul Emery never answer the questions from the posters here yet are always asking us, chastising us, for answering theirs! I mean, come on, can liberals be that ridiculous?
Vietnam was ended by Republicans and all those brave men and women who perished there were canon fodder for the left. I bet they, the lefties here, will spin it in the opposite.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Vietnam was a cluster, a mistake by our nation. PERIOD. Inept politicians who were terrified of the red threat in that region. Both parties are at fault for getting us in there. To think it was some kind of liberal or conservative blame is to misread the history books. It took way too many lives, friends and neighbors before we figured it out. Thank God for the liberal young people on college campuses for making the push to end the madness. War Hawks and Republicans weren’t going to do it.

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Jon

31 May 2015

Wow, reading the latest in the Senate, it looks like Rand Paul is going to force some big changes in the Patriot Act, finally some restrictions on the violation of privacy rights.

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Bill Tozer

31 May 2015

Straying way off course on into the thick mud of domestic issues, anyone with two brain cells left to rub together could see this coming a mile away. Yes, policies have consequences.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/31/homicide-count-in-baltimore-reaches-43-for-may-marking-deadliest-month-in-more/
In other domestic news from Rural America Fly Over Country, Bernie Clause is coming to a Grange Hall near you
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/us/politics/challenging-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-gains-momentum-in-iowa.html?_r=0

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Todd Juvinall

31 May 2015

Vietnam was started by libs and ended by conservatives. That is a fact Jack.

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Don Bessee

31 May 2015

So insightful straw ‘jon’. Your latest compounds your ignorance of the actual pieces that were in motion in the real world. What I loved is that when Reagan’s strategic plan crushed the wall we got all the files in the revolutions, files with signatures for money the Evil Empire flowed into ’causes’ in that time frame. Goggle break.

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Todd Juvinall

31 May 2015

DonB, those KGB files even proved McCarthy was right.

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Walt

31 May 2015

“jon” was clearly reading from the book of revisionism. Not one fact from the “jon”.
All he spews comes right from Berkeley.
Now on another note, Eric holder(2.0) in a skirt is up to the same old Lefty tricks.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/31/obamas-doj-to-circumvent-congress-with-more-than-a-dozen-new-gun-controls/
I wonder how many gun loving LIBS will lose their right to have a gun overnight.
There is plenty in the news about LIB shenanigans. These guys have plenty (breitbart.com)
for or resident LIBS to chew on.
From Hillary’s “above the law” cash, ( nope our LIBS won’t touch that one) to ISIS gaining ground. ( Nope,, won’t deal with that one either.)
Life is good on their Unicorn ranch.

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fish

31 May 2015

I am in heaven……internecine democratic carnage……15 months of pure bliss!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/us/politics/challenging-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-gains-momentum-in-iowa.html?_r=0

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Todd Juvinall

31 May 2015

Fish, I am so looking forward to the democrat debates. Bernie the perv v Hillary the shyster. Maybe O’Malley the crapola Mayor too!

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Gregory

31 May 2015

“Vietnam was a cluster, a mistake by our nation. PERIOD. Inept politicians who were terrified of the red threat in that region. Both parties are at fault for getting us in there. To think it was some kind of liberal or conservative blame is to misread the history books. It took way too many lives, friends and neighbors before we figured it out. Thank God for the liberal young people on college campuses for making the push to end the madness. War Hawks and Republicans weren’t going to do it.”
McNamara was Kennedy & LBJ’s guy, big government ‘we’re smarter than you’ liberal. San Francisco, UC Berkeley. The one who came up with the limited engagement, throw enough American boys at the problem so the USSR (North Vietnam was a Soviet client state) would know we meant business, but not so many that China (who pasted us during the Korean War when we got too close to their border when punishing the North Koreans who had decided the weather was nicer in the South).
The noisy “liberals” on campuses were not liberal pacifists, they were trying to foment revolution. Think Ayres and Dohrn and the Weathermen. “The only reason they were not guilty of mass murder is mere incompetence. I don’t know what sort of defense that is.”

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Jon

31 May 2015

If not for the uprisings on college campuses along with common acceptance of the young rejecting authority, we would likely have been mired in Vietnam for another 10 years. What was going to stop it- conservative Congressmen and Senators? Not exactly.

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Jon

31 May 2015

“Your latest compounds your ignorance of the actual pieces that were in motion in the real world”.
SAY WHAT…? Translation please. Don, what gets into you after 7PM?

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Walt

31 May 2015

That’s all ya’ can come up with “jon”? The word “pathetic” comes into play.
Like I said. LIBS sure know how to lose conflicts. “O” is no exception.
Hell! He is even willing to give Iran nukes! “O” steps in front of a microphone and tells America one thing ( all bullshit) and we get the real story from Iran. ( and the W.H. backpedals)
The way things are going, LIBS WILL have their way,, and we will be fighting the Islamist extremists right here in our own streets. Thank GOD there are plenty of rednecks who know how to shoot. We sure can’t count on the cowardly hippie.

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Don Bessee

31 May 2015

Hmmmm lefty jeffy or proxies failing to address the issues again. What common acceptance, acceptance where, by whom? LOL! You have yet to substantiate with something other than gibberish. Translation, wee jon has no education beyond rhetoric and none on the subject and has to divert yet again from the point at hand. Troll on wee boy troll on… Sorry its too tough for you to have to correlate geopolitical issues that may take real historical knowledge beyond the party line you suckled on.

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Bill Tozer

31 May 2015

Mr. Walt said recently “The way things are going, libs will have their way”. Totally agree. But, Mr. Walt, we all can sleep soundly now. The Libs got their wish.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1433132853./10152877185690914/?type=3&theater
nothing can stop the Libholes now. Nothing, except one small piece of parchment, maybe.
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1433132959./10152926604380914/?type=1&theater

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Walt

31 May 2015

That’s pretty much the way it is Bill.
Good finds… Funny.. Every time “jon” tries to insult this ditch digger’s intelligence,
it backfires. No wonder he doesn’t have the guts to post under his real name. I’m sure
a new “AKA” will show up soon.
Now back to the waves in Maui.

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joe smith

31 May 2015

Todd Juvinall | 28 May 2015 at 10:25 PM
Re: adulterine encounters “Anything goes by the libs”.
What about you my young man? Divorced three times and vociferous about your extramarital affairs. On this very blog you brag about being “too much of a man for any one woman”. You are a vile scum even by the standards of the muslim book. That you attempt to point a finger at anyone in the name of virtue is a true picture of your delusional view of values.

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Walt

31 May 2015

Called that one….”a new “AKA” will show up soon”.. And out of nowhere “joe” shows up.
Funny how someone has issues with capitalizing a “J”. That happens out of force of habit.
That LIB “outcome based education” sure shows. They let you fly with that in Berkeley? ( close nuff for a college degree)

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