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Sandbox – 27apr15

27 April 2015

[For the record, 27apr15 The Union published my letter critiquing Mr George Boardman's column. The letter was also copied into the 23apr15 sandbox's comment stream as its opening comment.]

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150 responses to “Sandbox – 27apr15”

Walt

29 April 2015

Under “O” and Co. protection of our allies, even by treaty are on their own.
First the Ukraine, now the Marshal Islands.
” The U.S. took administrative control over the Marshall Islands following Japan’s defeat in 1945. When the Islands became independent in 1986, a treaty with the U.S., known as the Compact of Free Association, became effective, amended in 2004. The U.S. became responsible for the national security and defense of the Marshall Islands which, in turn, agreed not to undertake acts incompatible with those responsibilities.”
President Nutless strikes again.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/04/29/iranian-ship-seizure-seeks-to-define-yet-another-obama-retractable-red-line/

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fish

29 April 2015

Posted by: Russ Steele | 29 April 2015 at 11:30 AM
Don’t be naive Russ…..everybody knows that there is a thorough vetting process performed prior to spontaneous “Man on the Street” interviews.

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Joe Koyote

29 April 2015

There is also a vetting process in the editing suite… deciding which 5 interviews of the 25 you have on tape to actually air.

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Joe Koyote

29 April 2015

In terms of live broadcasts, I think people have to sign a release prior to taping as well as a tape delay that allows directors to blip out profanity if need be, like radio talk shows have.

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fish

29 April 2015

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 29 April 2015 at 01:26 PM
Sounds like Baltimores Fields Medal Award Winner to Street Thug ratio was exceptionally low on the day those interviews were conducted.
Maybe they should go back and check again.

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Walt

29 April 2015

Nope Joe,, Been there, done that. had my 10 seconds of fame on FOX. ( The first BIG Tea Party gathering down in SAC.) Funny. When things got really going that day, CNN had already packed up and hit the road. ( that’s when there was a news blackout of anything Tea Party.)
CNN was there for the riot they JUST KNEW was supposed to happen.

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Russ Steele

29 April 2015

JoeK,
Never mind, you did not see it in real time, with the profanity that was not bleeped out in the original interviews, but was scrubbed in reruns of those segments. Since you did not see and hear it, it never happened.

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Todd Juvinall

29 April 2015

JoeK is a funny guy. I actually look forward to his screeds blaming white males for all the world’s ills. Jeeze maybe the white male Jonas Salk should have let JoeK croak from polio. What a hoot!

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George Boardman

29 April 2015

Joe K has a point, even if he doesn’t make it very well.
Fox News is highly predictable; it’s almost as if they have a template for every type of story they do. What’s interesting is their online news articles, which actually make an attempt to be fair and balanced by presenting all sides of an issue. Apparently Roger Ailes doesn’t think this will work for the TV crowd.
I’m always amused when conservatives knock the so-called lamestream media until they run an article that validates what conservatives believe. Then they have no qualms about citing the source repeatedly.
But that’s the problem with good news media. It’s not their job to validate what you believe.

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fish

29 April 2015

Setting dislocated digits the socialized medicine way…….

“Dicks was waiting in what she later described as a “small school chair” when the chair dramatically collapsed. Dicks fell to the floor, landing on her thumb in such a way that it reset itself. As Dicks told the Daily Mail, “I was screaming in agony and in tears.”

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2015/04/29/womans-dislocated-thumb-reset-by-hospital-chair/

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fish

29 April 2015

Posted by: George Boardman | 29 April 2015 at 03:43 PM
Yeah….those silly conservatives. Left liberals are way too smart to ever fall into that trap.

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Todd Juvinall

29 April 2015

GeorgeB has it right but backwards. FOX News presents both sides in an equal fashion on almost every issue so the viewer can decided. The lamestreams (all the rest of the media) rarely allow a conservative on a panel or a debate. I suggest Mr. B watch CNN, MSNBC, Meet the Press, etc., and he will perhaps get why we are happy to finally have a balanced media outlet. Of course, those that think FOX is biased and unfair (all the left) will never agree. I feel bad for them.
One needs only to see the bias of the lamestreams in the stories they choose to “allow” the people to see and read. Just read AP on climate change if you doubt me.

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Todd Juvinall

29 April 2015

Here GeorgeB check this out. Your media is looking pretty bad in the eyes of young people here in America.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-media-dead-last-on-trust-list-behind-u.n.-congress-obama/article/2563763

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Russ Steele

29 April 2015

GeorgeB, just demonstrated that he does not watch much Fox News. If he watched Fox News he would know that we have to listen to the progressive crap, and defense of Obama, put out by Alan Colmes, Juan Williams and host of lefty lesbians who are all providing “balance”.

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Walt

29 April 2015

LOL!! @ George B. You can blow smoke up joeK’s skirt all you like. The LIB news ratings VS FOX ratings says it all.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/04/29/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-april-28-2015/396293/
Pick a day… ANY day George B. ( or JoeK for that matter) FOX has Peacock for dinner, and leaves a good growler on the dead lawn of CNN.
There are days when the likes of CBS and MSNBC don’t even have enough viewers to score a rating.
Joe is one of six people in Nevada City to watch MSNBC.

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Larry Wirth

29 April 2015

Dr. Rebane et al, I just had a useful thought concerning the Supremes’ upcoming decision on gay marriage and want to bounce it off the audience.
I know a couple of straight guys, cousins in fact, living in an expensive condo in Santa Cruz. One makes a ton of money, the other not so much. I don’t know how they split the mortgage payment, but it doesn’t matter for this discussion.
Seems to me it would make sense for them to get “married” under the new dispensation and save themselves a ton of money by filling out Fed and State tax returns as “married filing jointly.”
It is obvious to me that the current privacy considerations would prevent anyone from determining whether or not they are actually gay or not.
OTOH, however, we really can’t be discriminating against “gay marriages” by denying them the tax advantages of being married, can we?
When one of them finds his dream lady, “no fault” divorce cleans up any problem. Think about how much $$ the gummint can lose by this stratagem. L

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Joe Koyote

29 April 2015

The larger point here, is that the “news” is whatever the directors/producers/sponsors want it to be. Unless you are there in person, you really don’t know what actually happened. Who is interviewed or not interviewed, what questions are asked, what visuals are shown or not shown, even the tone of voice and facial expressions of news presenters effects how the story is perceived by an audience.. ie. who are the good guys and who are the bad guys (which is the dominant theme of news) And for those of you who will immediately start screaming about liberals for some reason or another, this post is generic and is not meant to be construed to have any political implications what-so-ever. This is simply how TV news works. It is all biased, it is a for profit enterprise than depends upon advertising for revenue, and as such, says pretty much what the advertisers want it to say and what market segment the advertisers are selling to want to hear, or they couldn’t stay in business.
So if you want to know who a network is cheerleading for, just look at who advertises on their programs and what those programs have to say. Look behind the curtain.

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Walt

29 April 2015

Wow Joe,, go from one diversion to the other. From cars to soap, it’s spread across the board. Who advertises where is a non issue. ( Unless you have stock in those companies. Then I would be pushing for advertisement time on FOX.. A hell of a lot more viewers)
@ Mr. W. As for gays “marrying”,, civil union is just as good, and recognized as one in the same. Been there done that. The MRS. and I ( yup she is ALL woman) did the court house trip, right here in Nevada City. It was pretty fun actually. The bastard who saw the judge before us got 20 years. I got life.( and didn’t even break the law.)
We didn’t have the bucks for the church and stuff, so we did it on the cheap.
There is no reason to hijack the term ” marriage” just for political correctness.
One of our adult kids is in “that” kind of a relationship. Mom and Dad here are sticking to our guns in our views. ” You wants the rights under the law? there is the court house.
We did it that way,, so can you.”

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George Rebane

29 April 2015

LarryW 634pm – That is an excellent approach for any two compatible same sex people to partner up their finances since there is no required litmus test for homo or heterosexuality. And its also a good way to transfer wealth to anyone – just marry and then divorce with an appropriate ‘property settlement’. Avoids all those messy gift taxes.
JoeK 714pm – I think you just said that journalists are no damn good. You may be right. Early after starting RR, I had some thoughts on this –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2007/12/i-am-not-a-jour.html

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Walt

29 April 2015

Another case of “political, junk science” taking out a good honest business.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/29/oyster-farmer-we-are-terrified-of-the-govt/
“Drakes Bay Oyster Company operated in Point Reyes for decades until National Park Service officials used falsified data to force Kevin Lunny’s family-run oyster farm to shut down.”
“Even Democratic California Rep. Jared Huffman admitted that in the rush to get rid of industry from Point Reyes, government officials and environmentalists “overstated” evidence that Lunny’s farm was harming the environment.”
“Point Reyes isn’t your typical national park because it was created to preserve the historic coastline where people have been settled since the Gold Rush. It was never intended to be a major tourist attraction like Yellowstone.”

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fish

29 April 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 29 April 2015 at 08:17 PM
When I was in the Air Force we had a number of male/female pairings that were strictly for the benefits and tax breaks that accrued to the married.

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Gregory

29 April 2015

The thot plickens…
“BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.”

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Gregory

29 April 2015

Regarding news bias, I do think Fox tries to be balanced, but they see the story through mostly conservative eyes. CBS, ABC try to be balanced, but see the story through mostly moderate Democratic eyes. NBC and PBS try to be balanced and try to imagine what a conservative might have to say about it but don’t know any themselves. MSNBC is on a perpetual search and destroy mission.

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Walt

29 April 2015

Gregory.. And the “rough ride” isn’t playing out either. The buggy has a GPS and “black box tech.” So the trip has a complete log according to reports.
Another ” not quite as claimed”. like Ferguson. Even the Mayor has been caught in ” I didn’t say that.” uh,, OH YES you DID! Here is the video take in living color and in Dolby stereo.
That woman is in WAY over her head. I hope those businesses send her the bill.
They can’t blame this on the white people. The whole town is run by Blacks.

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Bill Tozer

29 April 2015

About the Constitutionaly of Gay Marriage (not pros or cons), the Constitution remains 100% silent on this hot button issue as far as Federal Law and Federal powers go. One could agrue and make an excellent case that nationalizing same sex marriage (or plain ole marriage in and of itself) is out of the Supremes’ preview, powers, and dictates. They could say that marriage does not fall under their jurisdiction, thus no ruling. Boy, that would get the natives off their easy chairs and on the war path, with or without firewater.
Lizzy who Speaks With Forked Tongue Warren would be in a tizzy and the Tomahawk Chop will suddenly become back in vogue. Oh, I can hear the cacophony of wailing and gnashing of teeth from here. Opps, strike that. I can hear the ocean when I cup my hand to my ear just right, but I digress. Would not that be something if The Supreme Court stayed within its mandate and washed their hands of the whole matter? It would be a sprint race to the cameras to be the first to declare outrage and become the self proclaimed defender of the weak, the lame, the slow, and everything including the kitchen sink. And Lizzy Forked Tongue Warren along with every professor in our institutions of higher learning would be hotter than a goat’s butt in a pepper patch.

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Bill Tozer

29 April 2015

Mr. Larry Wirth, you are on to something. Certain it has been done before, just as senior couples divorce or opt to shack up so their individual SS checks are larger than if they were still married. Old people living in sin just to make surviving their sunset years less of a stark sparse existence. Oh, how materialistic. Shudder that thought.
Jerry Lee Lewis married his cousin and she was only 14 years old. Didn’t hurt his career in the big picture, but talk about keeping it in the family and rolling your own.
Whoever says tax policy does not affect one’s behavior is full of beans. In fact, if there are any wealthy filthy rich old decrepit old geezers out there, I am available to discuss Holy Matrimony, but prefer to be adopted. The older the better.

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Larry Wirth

29 April 2015

Thanks for the comments, so far. Actually I anticipated what the sane side would say, now I’m awaiting the views of the other bunch. My guess is that crickets will be chirping.
My purpose in proposing this type of “legal” fraud was not to endorse it, but to question whether or not the SCOTUS has even considered the slippery slope they are likely to skip on to.
As Fish and Tozer have pointed out, it’s already happening. What will the govt do about it? My guess is that it will try to eliminate the tax break for marrieds (originally intended to encourage childbearing) and it will be fun to see our elected congress critters sell that fix to a huge majority of married couples (of all stripes). Lose, lose for lefties. L

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MikeL

30 April 2015

I am male and my father has a net worth that will trigger the government to steal a large chunk of his assets when he dies.
Will I be allowed to Gay marry my father?

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Todd Juvinall

30 April 2015

If they rule for homosexual marriage we will see people gaming it every way to Sunday for a myriad of reasons. It is a lawyers wet dream if they do.

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Michael R. Kesti

30 April 2015

Todd Juvinall 30Apr15 07:44 AM
One of the problems with liberals’ legislation is that liberals appear to believe that their laws will have their intended effects and only their intended effects. This is, of course, rarely the case.

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Todd Juvinall

30 April 2015

Spot on Kesti. The law of unintended consequences is at play in every rule and law. I have seen it many times. I actually think Americans game it too see if they can get around all these “good intentions”.

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Jon

30 April 2015

Maybe your reasoning should have been considered during the rush to rip down the last vestiges of Glass-Steagall. Seems like just a bit of bad behavior ensued from that.

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Todd Juvinall

30 April 2015

I was unaware of Glasses at the time. But since it was a joint fiasco by both R’s and Clinton, no one can complain it was partisan. I believe it should be reinstated and investments separated from typical banking.

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Walt

30 April 2015

There is hope for the younger generation yet. They are not buying the glue sniffers AGW crap.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/30/poll-young-americans-are-becoming-global-warming-skeptics/

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Russ Steele

30 April 2015

The following is from a comment on my blog, by a person who lives in Maryland. It is insight from the battle lines:
Brown needs to take a serious look at what’s just happened in Baltimore. A race riot in a city with an African American mayor and police chief and an African American president. Maryland has the highest per capita income in the nation but the city of Baltimore’s per capita income is half the states and I bet in that the neighborhood where the rioting took place it’s worse than that. Baltimore, just like California, has become a place where it’s expensive to do business and expensive to live. The only businesses that thrive are either high margin or well connected to government largess paying costs plus fix fee. Well guess what, poor urban kids with a lousy education who have possibly been arrested for petty crimes will not get jobs in those thriving businesses. They will be luck to get any job even at minimum wage. Meanwhile, politicians just average the high income areas with the low income areas do an average and claim we are doing great.
California is a high cost of living state with nearly a quarter of its population living in poverty if the cost of living is factored in. Brown is developing his policies by listening only to those with enough lobbying cash to pay to play. His proposal on green house gas emissions can only be accomplished by further de-industrialization inflicting more pain on the blue collar work force. He’s laying the seeds for rebellion in his own party’s latino political base by catering to the money on the coasts while inland California struggles.

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Don Bessee

30 April 2015

The Baltimore school system is the second highest cost per student of the 100 largest cities, over $15,000 a year per pupil. The lousy education is the impact of the collusion between democratic politicians and the teachers unions. You can’t discipline, fire or say boo to a teacher without a union push back. The amount of money the unions put into the democratic campaigns is a giant conflict of interest. Golden contracts combined with tenure protecting the incompetent have squandered billions of tax dollars and sentenced the students to a bleak future. Unions power and money of course made sure there were no options such as vouchers or competition to the unions job security. The teachers unions care nothing for our kids, they just care about money and power.

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Walt

30 April 2015

I would like our resident LIBS who love to dictate that others “pay their fair share”,, and on occasion have mentioned that Mr. moneybags Soros said “higher taxes a good”,,,
Well,,, seems Soros really wasn’t that big on paying taxes. He even sheltered PLENTY overseas.
Enjoy the read.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/george-soros-s-tax-bill

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Don Bessee

30 April 2015

OOOPS a little truth just slipped out… Ben Emery in defending NU acknowledged what we already knew; the left thinks choice like charters are a hidden attempt to “break the teachers union”. Screw the kids, keep the money flowing into our coffers even if we fail to deliver the goods. We the tax payers pay for Bentley level educations and get ladas in results! 😦

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Walt

30 April 2015

The Lefties must be hanging out in friendly territory. Licking their wounds?

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Gregory

30 April 2015

Some of the worst schools in Nevada County are the charters… in fact, most of the worst schools in Nevada County are charters.
Ghidotti is excellent, but I think I’m leaning against it now, not because it doesn’t do a great job educating the kids it accepts, but because it robs NU/BR of the cream that had risen to the top by the 8th grade, and makes sure the kids that bloom later (or move here later) doesn’t have the opportunity to switch into the fast lane. It also robs the good teachers at NU/BR of many of the good students that would otherwise be charging their batteries.

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Brad C.

01 May 2015

MikeL, “Will I be allowed to Gay marry my father?”
Great idea! Then, have your kids marry you, etc.
See, this marriage equality rights thing is not so bad after all!

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Jon

01 May 2015

Dirtmover should be the last person speaking on the subject of education.

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Todd Juvinall

01 May 2015

“Jon”, why would you say that about Walt?

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Jon

01 May 2015

Observation? He actually hadn’t weighed in yet directly, so sorry for implying he had.

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Jon

01 May 2015

Speaking of observation- in a rare moment, I find myself almost in 100% agreement with Gregory.

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Jon

01 May 2015

Anyone care to weigh in on events today in Baltimore? Do you think cops around the nation at some point will start treating poor black people slightly better than sewer rats? Taking people off the street- with ZERO cause- throwing them into a van and intentionally inflicting fatal injuries on a human being. Why does that happen?

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Jon

01 May 2015

Also, exciting new rollout from Tesla today for home use.
http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
Could be a game changer for many people, either as a renewable source for evening use, or as backup power source.

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fish

01 May 2015

Posted by: Jon | 01 May 2015 at 09:36 AM
You were the reporter…..enlighten us.

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Todd Juvinall

01 May 2015

Here are the officers. I wonder why the press is withholding their race?
Officer Caeser B. Goodson, Jr. was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, two counts of manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
Officer William G. Porter was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Lt. Brian W. Rice was charged with involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Edward M. Nero charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Garret Miller charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Sgt. Alicia White involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Warrants have been issued for the arrest of the officers.

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Patricia Smith

01 May 2015

Jon Stewart said it best: “You can grieve over every officer that has has been lost in the line of duty in this country, and still be troubled by cases of police overreach. These ideas are not mutually exclusive. You can have high regard for law enforcements and still hold them to high standards.”
Something is clearly out-of-whack in this country and it is up to us citizens to be the eyes and ears of our elected officials and police officers. We don’t even know with certainty how many people are killed each year by police (justified or not) because there is no national data base that compiles this information from every state.
This in no way excuses acts of violence perpetuated by angry citizens. They need to be accountable for their actions too. Even though it is often times imperfect, we have a system to address our grievances in this country.

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