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Sandbox – 7apr15

07 April 2015

[Well, the weather outside is frightening … . Since the trees have leafed, we are going outside periodically to knock the snow off those bent over branches of the 'specimen trees' we can reach.

And the local dust devil getting people roiled around Nevada County today is the question 'Was Terry Lamphier set up?' for the child porn allegations that he is facing. Oh, the things that concern us in this hamlet as the state fights a politically amplified drought, the country prepares to adopt another 11 million illegal aliens into a still faltering economy and disintegrating culture, and the west refuses to acknowledge, let alone confront, radical Islam.]

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176 responses to “Sandbox – 7apr15”

Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

After reading the AP article on the fake gang rape in the Union this morning, I am amazed the author and the press can ever be called “journalists” again.The people the fake article tried to ruin are apparently not the victims of the lie. It is the liar! Jeeze!

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George Rebane

07 April 2015

ToddJ 1133am – Excellent point Todd. It is sad to again confirm that in the aggregate, journalism has become a profession of self-serving jerks, especially those belonging to today’s politically correct cohort.

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Paul Emery

07 April 2015

I agree George. That’s why I was so offended by the slimer Breitbart when he edited video segments out of context in the Shirley Sherrod story
“Andrew Breitbart made a mistake. Based on a two-minute video excerpt of Shirley Sherrod’s speech at an NAACP dinner last year, he accused her of practicing racism as a federal employee. He neglected to mention that in the excerpt, she was clearly talking about events in a different job 20 years ago. And when the rest of the video turned up, it proved that her story was about transcending her old racial resentment.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2010/07/amen_canard.html

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George Rebane

07 April 2015

PaulE 1240pm – Good pick-up. The Right is not altogether clean here. But I do maintain that such transgressions are what may be termed super-asymmetrical when ideological sourcing is applied.

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fish

07 April 2015

Gee Paul maybe you were right about the TPP.

How TPP Will Function in Practice?
If this damn thing passes as is, TPP will create an “unaccountable supranational court for multinationals to sue states”, precisely what one might expect after five years of secret backroom deals led by Obama.
Here’s how it will work.
Obama crammed down a bunch of global warming regulations. To get companies to go along, Obama concocted a supranational tribunal court that would allow every company to sue for lost revenue due to those regulations.
Taxpayers will lose three ways: first on needless regulations, second on corporate handouts to pay for grievances, third for having to pony up for the creation of the new supranational court.
I can smell boondoggles, and this one is massive.

Read more at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/#ZthpYMRFGWocyYpV.99
Oh President Obama….Progressive Warrior…..is there nothing you can’t do?

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Paul Emery

07 April 2015

It is defiantly a favorite among the mainstream Dems and Repubs. Boehner and Obama are arm and arm in this one.
House Democrats Balk At Efforts By Obama, Boehner On Controversial Pacific Trade Deal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/09/trans-pacific-partnership-obama-boehner_n_4570837.html

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Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

Regarding “journalism”. Paul Emery never seems to slam his brethren on the left but always brings up Breibart. We on the right think any tampering with the truth by anyone is bad and should be punished. Paul Emery and his buds on the left think only a “righty” should be punished. That is why I could care less when he uses Breitbart. Besides, I have had to listen for fifty years all the liberal BS in my news while old Brietbart has been around what? Ten years? And guess who taught him (of course he has died), the liberal Professors!
I don’t read Breitbart but his work in exposing the ACORN corruption was simply glorious!

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Paul Emery

07 April 2015

Todd
I support your critique of Rolling Stone magazine. Do you consider it a right wing media?

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Paul Emery

07 April 2015

todd
Do you consider Rush Limbaugh to be a legitimate news source? I put him in the same category as Bill Mahar, political comedian.

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Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

Rush is a source of information and he does i with humor. Maher is strictly a comedian.

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George Rebane

07 April 2015

Administrivia – how long will we refuse to acknowledge that ‘medium’ is the singular of its plural ‘media’?
While on this soapbox, I might add that today’s improper use of the pronoun ‘I’ in compound predicates is now endemic – ‘Susie told Sam and I about the concert.’ To determine whether properly to use ‘I’ or ‘me’, just get rid of the other person (here ‘… Sam and …’). Then ask if ‘Susie told I about the concert.’ doesn’t frost your external plumbing.
We’ll cover the use of the apostrophe in singular and plural possessives in the next edition 😉
The new crops of English teachers know no better – what are they teaching our kids??? Here on RR, we should set a better example.

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Bill Tozer

07 April 2015

With all the challenges we face, why not take a couple of days to act in horror over what some 18 year old college drunken frat boy uttered about Negros. Better yet, let’s spend a week gabbing about the hypothetical question of should a pizza joint cater to a gay wedding. My main question on the latter earth shaking development is whether the pizza pies should be chicken garlic, artichoke vegetarian, or tried and true pepperoni? Oh, we live in a complex society.
As for the question of Former Grass Valley Councilman/Former County Supervisor being set up, I think more important questions would be “Did he get caught” and “what did he see and does he know that he saw it?”
Rolling Stone Magazine is another holy grail of the Left. They will face zero fallout. Next up: the Bonnza Market is still selling non-local Gator and Roo jerky. Not why some moved here. Update at 11.

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Walt

07 April 2015

Paul.. BB is peanuts compared to what NBC (or was it CBS?.. both just as snake belly) did with Zimmerman, and the doctored 911 tapes. A racist behind every tree. I don’t believe what BB did caused a riot, caused anyone to be killed. Unlike what fabrications by the same media about Ferguson. MSNBC still has Shakedown Al in their employ. How many deaths has he caused with his protest marches? How many cops are dead? Yup, HE was leading the parade.
But keep taking swipes at BB.
On a side note,, Nice AGW we are having.

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Russ

07 April 2015

Steve Enos: Lawyer diverts from facts and evidence in Terry Lamphier case
Details at YubaNet: http://yubanet.com/regional/Steve-Enos-Lawyer-diverts-from-facts-and-evidence-in-Terry-Lamphier-case.php?

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Walt

07 April 2015

Paul likes to slam BB… OK Paul,, where are they wrong?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/07/how-california-went-dry/
Seems they are telling it like it is…

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

George Rebane 07Apr15 03:21 PM
As Grammarian Laureate of RR I appreciate and applaud your efforts, George.
While not strictly a matter of grammar, I will add that “arm in arm” is an idiom but “arm and arm” is not.
Walt 07Apr15 03:50 PM
I realize the futility but Andrew Breitbart’s initials are “AB” rather than “BB”.

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Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

I understand what BB is. I think t was PaulE that started that? Anyway, Walt has dug a lot of holes and foundations for many pompus ass people that knew how to spell Oh So Good. Jeeze!

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Gregory

07 April 2015

Let’s remember the great Ernie Kovacs for the observation that TV was a medium because it was neither rare nor well done.
Limbaugh is Op-Ed and entertainment.

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Walt

07 April 2015

Kesti. “Andrew” isn’t publishing from the grave. If you take a CLOSE look at the web address, you won’t find “Andrew” in it. You won’t find it on the home page either.
Now read the damned story, and show where it’s incorrect. ( if at all)
Unlike any given LIB rag news, it doesn’t play favorites. When a Repub or the like gets in hot water, no protection or excuses are given.
LIBS are just peeved at BB.com because they expose LIBS and LIB dirty ORG.s forthe world to see.
LIB “gotcha”,, has to manufacture it.
As someone says now and then here,, ( I show my progressive side) Well, if BB played by LIB rules once,, SO WHAT?? It was the exception. Not the rule. Have a taste of your own medicine.

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Scott Obermuller

07 April 2015

“he accused her of practicing racism”
Actually, she admitted to wilfully and deliberately discriminating against white people in her position as a govt employee. But gee, that was 20 years ago, so she gets a pass. Tell us, Paul – what does Bush get a pass for 20 years ago?

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joe smith

07 April 2015

English language teachers are discrete from English teachers who speak with an accent. Sorry for being so indiscreet.

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

Walt 07Apr15 06:41 PM
Neither “Andrew” nor “BB” occur in the URL that you provided. There is no BB.com (nor, http://www.BB.com). I can find no occasion of the organization that continues to use the Breitbart name using “BB” in reference to itself. The article that your reference was written by Ben Shapiro, so there is no “BB” there. It seems that your use of “BB” is as arbitrary as your punctuation.
Shapiro’s article is fine but he does commit one logical fault. After pointing out that Governor Brown’s plan to save 490 billion gallons of water is insignificant compared to the 11 trillion gallon shortfall that results from the drought he goes to great length to belittle the EPA and the state for using 150 billion gallons in their efforts to support the Delta Smelt. If 490 billion gallons “barely touches” the problem then it seems that 150 billion gallons might not touch it at all.
Gee, that medicine didn’t taste so bad.

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Walt

07 April 2015

OH.. Excuuuusseeeee ME!!!! I guess a little short hand here goes WAY over your head.
Yup,, we really need to spell it out for ya’. So here ya’ go. http://www.breitbart.com/
Do ya’ need me to click the mouse for you too?
My mention of 80% of the states usable water gets sent out to sea and not stored fell on blind eyes. Yup that LIB water conservation for ya’.
Sacramento needs to make a choice. Water for the people, or water for bait fish.
Then there is the new problem. What to do with all the illegal farm workers? there are going to be less crops to pick. The LIB constituents and special internist will have to find new excuses to keep the boarder flood flowing.
A maid for every motel room?

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Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

Read Bernard Goldberg’s take on the Rolling Stone liars party. I sure would like to see Paul Emery do an in depth article on this as well. But we have to settle for his “I too did not like it” kinda crapola.
http://bernardgoldberg.com/what-the-media-left-out-of-the-phony-rolling-stone-story/

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fish

07 April 2015

Hey…..looks like Mish cracked the code!
Disability Deal Explained
If Democrats give enough free benefits to enough people, no one can ever vote them out of office.
Read more at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/#ohWjpc3loG8hQ2sr.99

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Walt

07 April 2015

Rolling Stoned will need Depends by the time the lawsuits are done. From the frat houses to the school, there is a line at the court house to file suit.
Yes Sir,, the LIB motto of “lean forward” ( and grab your ankles) will apply.
LIB news sure has made a name for themselves…. ” The news that can’t be trusted.”

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Russ

07 April 2015

If the Russians cracked the White House servers, do you think they cracked the code on Clinton’s private e-mail server? The Climategate e-mails came from a Russian server. I wonder if we will see a dump of Clinton’s e-mail like we saw in Climategate? That might be the end to the 2016 campaign for Mrs Clinton.

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Bill Tozer

07 April 2015

Walt, it all depends what the maids look like. Once nailed the door shut from the inside in a desert motel just to keep maids out.
Obama said, and I quote, “If Iran cheats, the world will know.” Wow. We already know. Think our President has a big soft spot for Iran. Didn’t the woman behind the curtain (the lovely Valerie Jarred) once live in Iran?? She might be the one whispering softly in his ear that Shitte Iran good, Israel and Sunnis bad. Just speculation on my part. Pitting Suadia Arabia and is new coalilition of those that cannot take America at its word or trust Obama against Iran might be a good strategy. We provide air over for Iranian troops in Iraq and leave Iran’s proxy Syria alone. Chalk one up for Putin and two up for Iran.
Never could figure out the woody Obama has for the “moderate Muslim Brotherhood” and why we backed them against Egypt’s President. Maybe because my Pappy and Grandpappy did not teach me about the marvelous virtues of Da Brohood. Didn’t work out so good for Da Obama backed Brohood in Cairo and now Egypt is turning to Putin for aid and trade. Looks like we lost another ally in the Mid East. Our operations in Yemen complete with Obama’s victory lap did not stabilize that country either. Oppps, Yemen is a proxy state of Iran. I see the big picture now. It’s Iran versus our former allies as we lead from behind. Obama diplomacy makes strange bedfellows.
https://www.facebook.com/USAPatriots/photos/pb.133154313381817.-2207520000.1428462722./928365570527350/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000.1428463100./10152902544780914/?type=3&theater
Ok, back to the dusting of snow, Terry repeatedly hitting the wrong key, and that couple that wants pizza toppings on the cake before consummating holy matrimony. Yes, and most disturbing is Bonanza Market is unfortunately still selling non-local tuna fish and Buffalo Jerky in broad daylight on Broad Street of all things! Woe am I. Alas, where are the owners’ Frisco Values? We live among strange people indeed.

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

Walt 07Apr15 08:18 PM
Your claim that “80% of the states usable water gets sent out to sea” feels like an exaggeration. Can you provide reference to data that supports it?

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Don Bessee

07 April 2015

Kesti, why don’t you provide data to refute? Fish 822, DUH!

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

Don Bessee 07Apr15 09:16 PM
Well, Don, because it was Walt who made a claim without reference to supporting data. I would like to believe that he didn’t just pull this out of the last half-inch of his digestive tract and, if he didn’t, might be able to support it.
I’m curious why you haven’t responded to my comment of 03Apr15 08:45 PM in the “Sandbox – 30mar15” thread. Did you, after indicating that you wanted a conversation, decide you have nothing to say?

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Walt

07 April 2015

That number comes from a state Representative. It was stated just last week for everyone to hear ( that would be TV and radio ) Try paying attention to what is being said, instead of listening to rap music.
Now do some fact finding of your own. Or do you need help with that too? You have evidenced above some things are above your logic spectrum.

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Jon

07 April 2015

Kudos to Kesti for correctly (and courageously) calling out the typically blustering Walt. Not a chance that 80% of the water goes out the Golden Gate. No chance. Hey boys, is Walt a sacred cow in the intellectual arena of ideas because he used to move dirt for a living? The man cannot write the English language, makes mostly nonsensical and irrelevant posts to the topic at hand.

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Jon

07 April 2015

Got it. A politician said it was 80%. Must be true~

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Todd Juvinall

07 April 2015

Just Googled a few words and came up with this link. Seems we get 71 million acre feet on average with 1983 at 140 million or so and 1977 at 15. Looks like the eco freaks get the majority.,
http://www.water.ca.gov/pubs/dwrnews/california_water_facts_card/waterfactscard.pdf
Jon, Walt is a much better man than you. Accept it.

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

Walt 07Apr15 09:51 PM
Yes, Walt, I would like some help with that, thanks. Supplying just that state representative’s name seems not too much to ask of one so very attentive as are you.

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Don Bessee

07 April 2015

Kesti, your failure to really engage is what it is. Bringing something factual to the table to refute us beyond the lameo lines is on your back sir.

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Michael R. Kesti

07 April 2015

Don Bessee 07Apr15 10:30 PM
What I hear you tell me, Don, is that you are unable to refute my ideas and that personal attack is all that you have.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/04/05/agreeing-to-disagree/

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Jon

07 April 2015

Ironically it was Walt who recently pointed to the virtuous and principled Breitbart organization as a bastion of intellectual honesty, no matter what the politics of the subject or subject matter. Hours later he’s buying into a more-than-dubious, redmeat stat spouted by an obvious conservative politician with clear purpose in mind. Nice going Walt. We got ya.

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Scott Obermuller

08 April 2015

fish at 8:22 – Mish has it right, but the sad thing is he’s just pointing out a basic truth that should be obvious to every one.
I’d love to have the Fed clarify their stance on that yearly 2% inflation rate. Is that a 2% rate of economic growth or just a balloon of money being inflated?
And if there is no inflation now, as they insist, why are the govt workers getting raises?

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George Rebane

08 April 2015

ScottO 753am – When govt workers’ raises have nothing to do with the inflation rate, it is because our scumbag electeds caved to their unions and agreed to such raises no matter how low the inflation rate. The unions, like the Devil, promised to sell peace now and get paid for it later. The scumbags like such deals because they get the political benefits immediately, and are nowhere to be found when the bill comes due. And the kicker is that the current scumbags can claim innocence since the agreements didn’t happen on their watch. Such a deal for the taxpayer.

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fish

08 April 2015

Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 08 April 2015 at 07:53 AM
It should also be noted the furious pace at which both the State of California as well as the feds are rushing to import and award goodies to non-citizens. I guess it’s just good marketing to establish favorable customer outreach in advance of a customers (future voter) decision to purchase (…vote for the democrats!).

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fish

08 April 2015

Looks like somebody is lobbying for consulting dollars……..
“There must be national policy and national law on policing,” Mr. Sharpton said. “We can’t go from state to state, we’ve got to have national law to protect people against these continued questions.”
Read more at http://observer.com/2015/04/al-sharpton-calls-for-fedeal-police-laws-after-south-carolina-killing/#ixzz3Wk5pGd3n
The video is horrible though…….looks like after whiffing on the Mike Brown and Eric Garner cases this is a legitimate abuse case.

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George Rebane

08 April 2015

re fish 1110am – Yes, the Charleston shooting was totally unwarranted, and really unbelievable unprofessionalism by a trained policeman. However, it does play into the hands of the anti-federalists as the last card added to the stack of previous police shootings that have been properly mitigated and extenuated. But this last card will now be used to characterize the entire stack of such shootings.
The progressives’ goal is to implement a national democracy which will then quickly revert to the centrally planned and controlled country that has been their long-term objective. This is the real sought for ‘fundamental transformation of America’.

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Walt

08 April 2015

How many lies will LIBS allow “O” to keep telling? He just told us how GREAT a deal he cut with the ragheads of Iran with nuke proliferation. Seems he holds one hand out to us, while using the other to give a reacharound with the other.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/08/obamas-historic-iran-deal-falls-apart-as-mullahs-rev-up-high-speed-centrifuges/
If the LIBS had a lick of sense God gave geese, they would understand those lunatics will use a nuke the minute they build it. Be it here or Israel.
It goes to show LIBS are not as “anti nuke” as they used to be. I guess that was only fashionable when Repubs were in control.
Now,, “it’s only fair that Iran has a nuke.”…

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Jon

08 April 2015

Hey Walter, do you realize the details of the deal have not yet been worked out? There is no deal Walt- repeat- no deal yet. The President said any deal would need to contain an intense level of inspections and ongoing verifications of sites, which are known to Israel and the US. Think the Israeli’s don’t know all the sites? President has repeatedly made the point that its better to know whats going on than not know whats going on? Or would you prefer to bomb a third of the nation of Iran pre-emptively, and do it several times to make sure we get all the material and technology? Do we send in ground troops there as well, to accompany the US troops you want in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Afghanistan?

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Walt

08 April 2015

LOL!!!! You probably didn’t even listen to his speech. If you did you would have heard “what a great deal we have struck”. You can find it on youtube.
Then there is the fact that “O” threatened to shoot down Israeli fighter jets if they dare attack Iran’s nuke sites. ( Yup,, you missed that too)
OOHHhhh.. BTW.. Then there is the fact that “O” feels he can go around Congress (again) with this (ha) agreement. Ya’ might want to look into that too.

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George Boardman

08 April 2015

Re Dr. R at 11:25 a.m.:
For a man who believes little the government says, you are quick to accept the assurances of police that they’re justified every time they pull the trigger.
The Charleston shooting was beginning to sound like every other one of these cases: The cop feared for his life, what appeared to be a weapon was found at the victim’s side, the cop followed proper procedure.
Then the video surfaced, and this all turned out to be a lie.
This is somewhat analogous to the death penalty, where we were assured for decades that extreme care was taken to make sure innocent people weren’t executed. Then DNA came along and we discovered all kinds of innocent people on death row.
Do I believe most police shootings are justified? Yes. Do I think some are criminal acts that are covered up? Yes.
If you are going to be skeptical of what officials tell you, at least be consistent.

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Scott Obermuller

08 April 2015

Sorry – I should have clarified that I wanted to hear from those that think it’s great that govt workers get raises even though there is no inflation. GR and fish spilled the beans with the secret we’re not supposed to know. Shhhh!
Here’s the situation even when there was a ‘salary freeze’.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2013/04/09/despite-salary-rate-freeze-average-federal-salary-rises/
And remember, that’s just the salaries. I’m sure the bennies push it past $90,000 for total comp. Compare that to the average non-govt worker that pays for the govt worker. As always, your mileage will vary.

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Jon

08 April 2015

Walt, stop reading the extreme right wing media bites and pay attention-then CALM DOWN. The US is not going to be shooting down any Israeli jets, now or in the future.
Walt, ready? There is a framework of a deal. Memo of Understanding. Do you know what that is? Lots of steps to yet be taken, lots of details to be hammered out, and yes, perhaps the fight with Congress to come. If there was a signed, sealed and delivered deal, wouldn’t you imagine Boehner and McConnell would be in court right now?

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