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Sandbox – 22mar15

22 March 2015

[Well, that was quite an episode in the last sandbox that I hope has run its course, or at least not let that thread of ad hominem exchanges leak out. I see that Sen Ted Cruz will throw his hat in the ring tomorrow, NATO's chief sees continued expansion from Putin that may get out of hand, and Bibi is keeping his powder dry re the farcical negotiations going on with Iran. And our own Bob Crabb is celebrating that Spring has sprung with a change in the business climate hereabouts. gjr]

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256 responses to “Sandbox – 22mar15”

Don Bessee

25 March 2015

Darn that pesky global warming, no tornados so far this March. I probably just jinxed a trailer park to oblivion somewhere! 😉

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Walt

25 March 2015

Give it a rest Paul, Seems there was a bee hive in that knot hole the last time you went “tree hugging”. Was Johnson a practitioner of Druidism like you? ( as you have claimed in the past)
As for “O”, he acts more Muslim day by day. He has even turned on Israel.
It time you revisit that knot hole. You can end the Christian bashing. We get enough of it from ISIS.

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Don Bessee

25 March 2015

So it looks like the Army is charging bo bergdahl (sp?) with desertion in spite of the 0 hero treatment. So its official, 5 Taliban generals for one deserter.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Walt
Let me ask you then. What is your view of Christian Dominionism.

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Todd Juvinall

25 March 2015

Has Ted Cruz espoused that Paul Emery? If he has he would not be my guy.

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Walt

25 March 2015

It beats the hell out of Muslim “Dominionism”, Paul. So tell me.. When the Muslim head takers show up on your doorstep,, just what will your answer be to “convert or die!”?
Will you swear to believe in Ala? Or will you stand firm, just to have your head role down Pine St.?
Don… We should give him back, and save us the trouble.
That was the LIBS idea of a “fair trade”. And don’t forget that “O” demanded the army
“go easy” on the traitor.
So what would you do Paul? Throw the bastard a parade? issue him a “peace medal”? ( You know,, the footprint of the all American chicken? The one all hippies had tattooed on their ass?)
He’s a Progressive LIB’s hero.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Walt
So you would have no problem with our country becoming a Christian theocracy?

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Walt

25 March 2015

Damn Paul,, You REALLY like to go “way” out there.
There is a little thing called the Constitution that safeguards against that.
Ever hear of “separation of church and state”? Freedom OF religion? ( no,, not like what
some from Nevada City say,, “freedom FROM…”)
When was the last time a Christian held a gun or knife to your head and dragged you into a Church? Sat in the pew behind ya’ and forced you to say the Lord’s prayer?
Now when I was back East serving my country, the bars were closed till church was out ( What the hell gives!!?? That’s just unAmerican!(in the book of Paul) )
The same went on election day!! No bars or alcohol sales till the polls closed. That just ain’t right!! Those poor illegals and felons who couldn’t vote.. Their rights were infringed! ( second bitch in the book of Paul)
So lets hear it Paul,, how bad have you been SO wronged by Christians? Your still here,, you haven’t been tied to a pine tree and set a’fire.
But nice dodge of my above questions…(as usual)

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

You know Walt I could take you’re mindless rambling if you put some kind of effort to educate yourself on what you are talking about. You are like an organism in a test tube that responds in predictable patterns to any stimulation. You know, life is hard but it’s harder when you’re dumb.

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fish

25 March 2015

See…this is how you counter stupid initiatives….with ridicule! His lardship wants to “manage” the first amendment and is horrified that anyone would question his judgement. Society seems to sort itself out without his “ham fisted” (I swear the jokes write themselves) assistance!
Who’da thunk?
http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2015/03/25/shoot-the-gays-initiative-countered-by-intolerant-jackass-act/

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Walt

25 March 2015

That’s the best you can come up with? And in true Lefty fashion, when you can’t deal with facts, let alone reality,, start insulting one’s intelligence.
I asked you simple questions, that even a stoned Nevada City street rat could answer, you chose to ignore, and/or change the subject. Again in good ol’ Paul ways. You have a LONG history of just that.
Once again you have stooped to TROLL status. ( and a subsidized one at that)
Come back when you can answer some of the above questions. ( and not with insults)
Until then ,, stay under your condemned bridge.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Your question had NOTHING to do with the discussion Walt. I don’t have to insult your intelligence Walt, you make that pretty clear on your own.

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Walt

25 March 2015

Really, Troll? When has Christianity forced you to do anything religion wise?
Your the one who started Christian bashing. Have they stopped you from prancing in the woods butt naked? DO tell! If it’s on your own property,, have at it. ( The Forest service might take issue on state or FED land)
On another note, the pilot comedy “Grass Valley” is being reviewed by Netflix as we speak.
( lets just say I know the guy that dreamed it up)
I may have to put a word in for a crazed, loony, subsidized part time radio guy from Nevada City, still with a ponytail who thinks everyone is dumber than he is. ( HELL!! You can’t make this crap up!) Like that old dude in the latest Doritos commercial.

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Walt

25 March 2015

“O” and Co. sure love sticking it to Israel. Right down to forking over top secret nuke capabilities.
“The Pentagon declassified the document after Grant Smith, an activist who heads a radical anti-Israel group, filed a Freedom of Information Act request, according to reports.”
For the longest time Israel has neither confirmed nor denied what they had to”the public”.
And for good reason.
So “O” sells them out. The proof that “O” is sympathetic to the radical Muslims (our enemies) keeps stacking up.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

If you want more details about what a Christian Theocracy under Ted Cruz would be like we go again to Pastor Larry Hutch who included this in his introduction of Rafael Cruz.
“But here’s the exciting thing… The rabbinical teaching is… that in a few weeks begins that year 2012 and that this will begin what we call the end-time transfer of wealth. And that when these Gentiles begin to receive this blessing, they will never go back financially through the valley again. They will grow and grow and grow. It’s said this way: that God is looking at the church and everyone in it and deciding in the next three and a half years who will be his bankers. And the ones that say here I am Lord, you can trust me, we will become so blessed that we will usher in the coming of the messiah.”

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Walt

25 March 2015

Paul.. Do not cut and paste things you don’t comprehend. Let alone not siting the source.
Yup,He has Christian beliefs. So what? It’s a lot better than Muslim beliefs in this day and age. ( Figured out an answer to that convert or die question yet?)
Since you JUST HAD to go there,, what did Jesus say about paying taxes? ( No cut and paste bub,, lets have it from memory ) ( yes, they bitched about taxes even in that time)

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

What is there to comprehend Walt? This is what Pastor Larry Hutch said pure and simple. The fact is that Ted Cruz will have to repudiate these views if he is to have a chance to win the nomination. This is from his dad Rafael.
“The pastor [Huch] referred to Proverbs 13:22, a little while ago, which says that the wealth of the wicked is stored for the righteous. And it is through the kings, anointed to take dominion, that that transfer of wealth is going to occur. God, even though he’s sovereign, even though he’s omnipotent, he doesn’t let it rain out of the sky – he’s going to use people to do it.” – See more at: http://disinfo.com/2013/10/ted-cruzs-father-preaches-son-anointed-king-will-bring-end-time-transfer-wealth/#sthash.yRZKYsZX.dpuf

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Don Bessee

25 March 2015

So Paul, it would be nice if you presented the recent Jeramiah, 0’s Chicago spiritual advisors talks or say the madras that 0 attended as a kid as well, and lets not forget farrakhan. I don’t care about the crusaders or saladin or the arab slave traders in Africa who sold the vanquished into salvery. No one here had anything to do with any of that so how is it relevant to a current political conversation? Compare the now like isis, iran, putin. Much more relevant to discuss the way forward.

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Walt

25 March 2015

Well now..Your a beneficiary of someone else’s wealth. Are you not?
And you little religious witch hunt will go nowhere.
Never mind the fact that “O” grew up Muslim, and so was his Daddy, didn’t stop him from getting elected, now did it? ( That sure came back to bite us in the ass,, and we can thank the Left for that.)
I prefer a good God fearing man (that would be Christian for the uninformed Paul) in the W.H. than the current liar ( that would be saying he’s Christian when actions say otherwise) that resides there now.
AND again,, dodges the question.
Troll feeding is just about over. No more chow after the Sun goes down. ( ya,, my fun will soon be over for the night)
What really fries Paul is that a Tea Party guy may take the W.H. , and with good odds.
That’s what Paul is really buttsore about. This would be the Tea Party’s version of “lean forward”. ( translation: Grease up,, cus payback’s a bitch)

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Bonnie McGuire

25 March 2015

Being a woman I’m glad I live in America that upholds the basic God given human rights taught by Christ. I sure as heck don’t need some damn dictator making me wear a tent out in public, stoning, beating up on, or torturing me because of the doctrines of men who think they’re god. What kind of god has so little respect for the one who puts her life in danger giving birth to him. The worst kind of human who doesn’t value his own life let alone anyone else’s. I’m overwhelmed with what Jesus Christ suffered so that his words would live on for those searching for truth (in the dark ignorance) would see the light leading to a better life here and hereafter. He is the great restrainer who teaches self restraint necessary for a decent society. Even Sigmund Freud would agree.

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Walt

25 March 2015

Be careful Bonnie.. Paul may catch fire. (but your right)
Paul doesn’t understand that the radical ragheads put atheists at the head of the beheading line.( express lane Paul) They have even more disdane for those with no faith at all.
I don’t think they would buy AGW as a valid religion either. It’s not looking good for Paul when the head hunters come looking to convert him.
Yup,, “talking to our enemies” (“O”‘s grand solution) has worked out swell.
Trading a traitor for top terrorists was an even better idea. ( got that medal ready Paul? Did you weave it out of hemp?)

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Walt, Bonnie, you don’t seem to comprehend what i am saying. This has nothing to do with Obama or Muslim beliefs or practices it has only to with the fact that Cruz does not have a chance for the nomination because of his radical Christian affiliations. Certainly his dad saying that ” it is through the kings, anointed to take dominion, that that transfer of wealth is going to occur. God, even though he’s sovereign, even though he’s omnipotent, he doesn’t let it rain out of the sky – he’s going to use people to do it” is going to trigger questions of Ted Cruz about what his beliefs are.
This is actually a stupid conversation anyway since he will never gather the financial support to win the nomination. He is a brilliant and charismatic young man though who will gather substantial enough support to rock the Republican establishment but in the end he’ll lose to Bush or Walker, the only real candidates they have. Right now he’s the Democrats best hope because he may fatally fracture the Republican party to their benefit. Cruz as the Repub nominee would be a dream come true for Hillary.

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Todd Juvinall

25 March 2015

So Paul Emery, you have told us you voted for Obama in 2008. You had the full knowledge of his upbringing and religious life as well as his attendance for twenty years in Reverend Wright’s church. How is it you voted for him as he was such a religious man? I am really interested in how a mind like yours works. Cruz bad, Obama good. Tell us all please.

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George Rebane

25 March 2015

Christian Dominionism. Didn’t even know what it was until PaulE pointed out that Rev Rafael Cruz was preaching it. In doing a little reading, it seems to me to be a non-starter faction of Christian Protestants. Most certainly it would not promote a government condoned in our Constitution. If the progressives can taint Sen Cruz with his father’s froth, then it will be another factor working against his Republican nomination, let alone being elected President.
I am reminded that the (to me) equivalently disturbing background of Barack Hussein Obama was not picked up by the lamestream when it was discovered that he was raised by radical collectivist ideologues and trained in Islam during his youth. Obama has amply demonstrated the damaging influence of his youth, and the nation is paying for it.
IMHO taking into account a candidate’s background, especially his ‘kinderstube’ (as the twig is bent, …), is a proper task for the both the media and the voters.
Christians do believe in the Great Commission calling upon them to promulgate, each in his own way, the Gospel according to Jesus Christ. If that results in Christian voting pluralities, or even majorities, then they will still be bound by the established constitutions in the lands where they live. There is no guarantee that Christian theocracies will result, because, after all, we were instructed to “render unto Caesar … .”

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Walt

25 March 2015

LOL Paul,, Karnak the great you are not. Your “predictions” have sucked on a world class level. UUhhhhmmmm What did you say about the Tea Party way back when? (and still do for that matter) It sure wasn’t anything positive. Uh,,, how many elections have they won?
How many seats? Don’t forget to count every city and county, not to mention state and GOV.
To put it into terms you CAN comprehend,, The Tea Party has kicked ass LIB and RINO GOP alike. They were elected by the same people that would vote for Cruz and Walker.
What do you LIBS have to look forward to? Hilary? and her bus load of baggage? Izzy Lie’n Warren? ( She who lies through teeth) The fake Indian?
The Left has dug their own grave politically, and LIB media who helped with all this is in heap deep trouble because they pushed and shielded the LIB liers.
Maybe “batshit” Brown will ride in on his crazy train from nowhere to save the day.
Now take a swig of that distilled, plywood aged, stuff you drink and pick your winner for the Left who will beat Cruz or Walker.

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Scott Obermuller

25 March 2015

“This is actually a stupid conversation anyway since he will never gather the financial support to win the nomination.”
And who started it?
Maybe you could formulate an intelligent one and get back to us, then?
We’re waiting.

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Jon

25 March 2015

Walt, I really have to feel sorry for you, but really more for your allies on this blog who have to sit and cringe when you post your babble. Paul is spot on in his assessment of your intellectual capability. But have to say, you are a fine rep for the mindless hard right. Keep it up Walt, we love it. Hillary can only hope for 20 million+ Walts to speak for the hard right!
Oh and hey ScottO and Co, your desire to ignore the hard questions and prospects of the hard-right superstar Mr. Ted Cruz tells us all we need to know about his chances, as well as those of the other wingnut colleagues! Stuck on the Bush Family record, over and over and over…
Personally would love to see Deval Patrick in 2016, but he is sitting it out until 2020. There’s a guy who can bring some fire, passion and substance to the party, but alas we must wait!

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Bill Tozer

26 March 2015

My. Ted Cruz threw his hat in the ring? I thought he was Satan incarnate according to the media. I am still a Ben Carson guy, but he will be hinded and quartered and then strapped to the Tree of Woe as the last thing he will see is his entails ripped open and thrown to the jackals while he still is breathing. Politics is not for the faint of heart.
It’s always been this way. Finally Congress banned dueling in its scared halls early in our history. What surprises me is that people think all this is something new. Kinda like Madonna thinking she was the one who discovered sex 20 years ago. I like what James Carville said. To paraphrase, he thinks this “be nice” and less caustic is full of beans. He said politics is and should be hard hitting bare knuckle brawls, not this mamby pamby play nice tee ball stuff.
Oh yeah, I, as always, still love my country but fear my government.
https://www.facebook.com/beingconservative/photos/pb.134193140910.-2207520000.1427356364./10152713167395911/?type=3&theater
Go Ben, go.
https://www.facebook.com/beingconservative/photos/pb.134193140910.-2207520000.1427356364./10152715767890911/?type=3&theater

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fish

26 March 2015

Posted by: Jon | 25 March 2015 at 11:28 PM
Worst sock puppet ever!
Grade: D-

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

Jon the lefty troll. Jeeze they always go personal don’t they? They can thank trolls like Jon for their record ass kicking in the last two elections. When they speak people flee. As far as answering questions, yes, there had been many attempts to answer Paul but as it turns out he never answers ours and he changes the subject so as to not answer. But regarding Cruz, he is bringing the same credentials to the party as Obama did but he is a conservative. The media will not treat him at all the same as we have seen so far. They will know how many poops a day he has and we still have never seen Obama’s or Hillaries transcripts.
Walt is a very intelligent man and he does not just sit on his ass like the left. He gets out and does the hard work. Jon the troll is the dunce here. Deval Patrick? Jeeze, the guy is a flop.

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Jon

26 March 2015

People fled when Barack Obama trounced Mitt Romney two elections back I guess..OK then.
You boys ready for Bushie III as your candidate? Scott Walker is a gooberish looking chap without compassion. No chance when the entire electorate votes in America.

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

Jon, your candidates will be roundly rejected by the American people. Get ready for a big disappointment.

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fish

26 March 2015

Posted by: Jon | 26 March 2015 at 07:49 AM
Still lame “jon”.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 26 March 2015 at 07:52 AM
I wouldn’t underestimate the stupidity of your fellow citizens Todd. They sent President Bunny to the White House twice…..that should tell you something.

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Jon

26 March 2015

Todd, not sure your record on Presidential elections is stellar. What was your prediction for the 2012 election again?

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Paul Emery

26 March 2015

Jon- re Todd in 2012:
It was Romney by 7% He was over 10% off the mark. He’s not one whose predictions have any respect.
Whom ever the candidates are they WILL be supporters of the TPP so that excludes any Tea Party backed Conservative with any principals. That’s why we will have a Bush or a Clinton for our next Pres. They both have no principals to stand by. It’s a family tradition.

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

Jon and Paul are the same person. What a hooy!

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fish

26 March 2015

Rule #1 of damage control is confusion.
Another tragic case of a man suffering from confusion…or is it damage control……don’t know….kinda confusing!
Nevertheless……..won’t you give generously to help his affliction?

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Paul Emery

26 March 2015

More deep thinking from the Sierra Lizzard, the Romney by 7 guy

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Walt

26 March 2015

I must be getting something right when fresh meat shows up to start attacking and throwing rocks. ( and some wonder why I still wear a hard hat)
Poor, sorry LIBS. It’s their own damned fault for putting the likes of “O” and Co. in office, that getting power again in D.C. will be generations down the line.
The nation has had it with LIBS. From the takeover of healthcare, to being the joke of the globe. Yup, “O” really earned that peace prize for his Middle East policies.
Like I said. All that “talk’n” has worked out great!
We will be lucky if a nuke doesn’t go off before “O” is out of office. Hell! “O” just might GIVE one or two to Iran. “O” is no friend to Israel, ans despises it as much as the rest of the Muslim world.

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

Paul Emery, you said you voted for Johnson in 2012. He received 1.2 million votes. Romney got 60 million. I would suggest your are 58 times more a loser than me. Here is the summary.
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php
I always know when I best Paul Emery he twists the name of my blog for derision. What a hoot!

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fish

26 March 2015

Posted by: Walt | 26 March 2015 at 09:54 AM
I must be getting something right when fresh meat shows up to start attacking and throwing rocks.
Rest assured Walt….that “meat” is hardly fresh…….likely been here for a couple of years now, slowly turning in the hot Nevada City sun!

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

I see Paul Emery is unable to answer our questions as usual. That is why I don’t interact with him anymore. I really think he can’t answer the questions. Education?

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Jon

26 March 2015

Todd is yet again on Planet Delusional. Nice pick there in 2012 Todd! I assume the local media won’t be beating down your door for comment on election night Nov.2016.
Oh Walt, since you’re a primo Chicken-hawk, beating your war drums for several weeks now, I’ve been meaning to ask you which Middle Eastern areas would you prefer we send troops? Yemen, Syrian, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran? Any or all of them? Where will our volunteer force spend their days under your preferred plan in your ideal NeoCon administration? Hey good news for you though- Paul Wolfowitz and Company are actively working with Bushie III! Next time under Bushie III they will finish the job off, right?
George, kudos for your Mother Jones link and your intellectual honesty on that almond issue in exposing the Big Ag hypocrisy.

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Paul Emery

26 March 2015

Todd
Interaction requires actually listening to someones viewpoints and then making intelligent responses. You seem unable to do either.

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Gregory

26 March 2015

Paul, it’s a time honored tradition to lie to yourself and everyone who will listen about the chances of your candidate at election time… just look back to November and see the lies Pelosi and Reid were telling about the election outcomes in the House and Senate. If you tell the electorate all hope is lost, we are doomed, their voters will, by and large, not bother to vote.
Libertarians have a sense of humor and don’t mind being honest about their chances… Johnson did a good job. I’d like to pull Milton Friedman out of the grave and bitch slap him for his missed chance to change the LIB status on the old McNeil Lehrer News Hour (before it became the McNeil and Lehrerless PBS NewsHour)… asked about the economics of the ’92 Presidential hopefuls, he made the correct observation that the only one making any sense was Libertarian Andre Marrou, but when a very surprised McNeil (I suspect he hadn’t paid any attention whatsoeverto Marrou) asked if he had any chance of winning, Uncle Milty said no.
An evasive but honest answer along the lines of “Only if PBS takes him seriously” would have gone a long way to actually getting some traction for Libertarians.

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Jon

26 March 2015

The Republican primary will be really interesting in their obvious frenzy to criticize the foreign policy of the Obama Administration. I especially want to hear the comments of Bushie III and, if he runs, Lindsay Graham, and their plan in the Middle East under the Conservative-backed federal sequester, and in our state of a volunteer army. Going to be really fun waiting for the first hawkish Republican to propose a new military draft! Yeah that’s a winner for you guys!

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Jon

26 March 2015

Gregory, do you really believe that an obscure Milton Friedman comment on PBS in 1992 had a chance to sway the electorate toward libertarianism? Speaking of Planet Delusional. Lets leave old Milty alone in his moldy grave.

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Gregory

26 March 2015

“Jon”, it was a teachable moment, lost forever and the person needing the instruction was Robert MacNeil (finally checked the spelling). No, a different response by Friedman wouldn’t have swayed the electorate at all but it might have increased honest coverage from PBS, and that could have increased honest coverage from private media, too.
Sorry “Jon”, I remain rational to a fault. Better luck next time.

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Todd Juvinall

26 March 2015

Paul/Jon, you are too funny. After answering all of Paul’s questions up until lately it became clear he is not seriously listening to the answers. Paul changes the subject when confronted with a losing position. But that is just Paul. No credibility in politics. I mean jezze, supporting a candidate that get 1.2 million votes out of 120 million and he claims some sort of expertise? So, when you start picking winners Paul Emery, maybe we will listen.
As for your alter same-ego Jon. My goodness are you that dumb Jon? You are apparently so. When you get educated get back to the thread. I haven’t seen that much moronic response since Pelline! Oh and “planet delusional”, now that’s funny. Seems I supported a whole lot of winners in 2010 and 2012 “jon”. Who did you support?

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Paul Emery

26 March 2015

Yeah Todd, our Republicratic one party system is about to deliver us another Bush or Clinton and if things run their course A Bush or Clinton will have been President for 28 of 36 years between 1988 and 1924 with the following chronology; Bush I 1988-1992, Clinton I 1992-2000, Bush II 2000-2008, Obama 2008-2016, Bush III or Clinton II 2016-2014. Yeah Todd, that’s a bunch or real winners you should be proud of supporting, since they are part of one party.

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