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Sandbox – 22mar15

22 March 2015

[Well, that was quite an episode in the last sandbox that I hope has run its course, or at least not let that thread of ad hominem exchanges leak out. I see that Sen Ted Cruz will throw his hat in the ring tomorrow, NATO's chief sees continued expansion from Putin that may get out of hand, and Bibi is keeping his powder dry re the farcical negotiations going on with Iran. And our own Bob Crabb is celebrating that Spring has sprung with a change in the business climate hereabouts. gjr]

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256 responses to “Sandbox – 22mar15”

Todd Juvinall

22 March 2015

Soon we will be getting a tax on our wells. Oh goodie!

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Gregory

22 March 2015

We already have a tax on our wells. You can’t live on property without water, so, in effect, the property tax is already a tax on the well in rural areas.
Over on some other blog, Steven Frisch did own up that he thought all wells should be metered and fees paid per gallon, even the small ones that serve single family homes… in short, a tax on the water we drink even though no state infrastructure is used in the pumping, the use, or the return to the ground in an appropriate fashion. Perhaps the next piece he writes on water for the local newspapers will speak to that. In order to read the meter, someone will either have to walk onto the property to read the meter or one of those nasty wireless networked meters will have to be used, to the consternation of the types of folks who imagine they’re allergic to electromagnetic fields at radio frequencies.

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Todd Juvinall

22 March 2015

A use tax Greg, not a property tax.

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Todd Juvinall

22 March 2015

I think we should get rid of the property tax and replace it with a sales tax anyway. We never own our land if they can come and take it for non payment of taxes.

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Bonnie McGuire

22 March 2015

The drought just created an excuse to take our wells we paid plenty to create. An old friend, now retired from the Modesto water district told us they’d been hoping to do it when he was there. Not many years ago the NID wanted to put a meter on our well to see if any of their irrigation ditch water was leaking into our 200 ft deep well. We hoped not, since we saw what happened to A family member and another neighbor from the weed killer they used along the irrigation ditch that provided them with water.

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Walt

22 March 2015

Well lady and gents,, Just wait for the next excuse “shoe” to drop to justify putting meters on private wells. That would be the “fairness” tagline. ” It’s not FAIR that private property water go untaxed !! WE city folk can’t drill our own wells and WE have to pay the government for water.” I say,,, you choose to live in the city. Don’t like paying “the man” to take a shower? Move.

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Walt

22 March 2015

WOW!! Seems any washed up LIB will run for President.
Even the Gov. who taxed rain.(Martin O’Malley) Now why hasn’t Jerry Brown thought of that?

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joe smith

22 March 2015

Todd, When you were a supervisor you willingly squandered our property tax revenue to further your agenda, How short do you think our memories are?

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Walt

22 March 2015

Seems I recall that when Todd on the board, things wen’t too bad.
Things whet to shit when Izzy and the gang got their slimy lunch hooks into the Co.
Speaking of pissed away money, the board went against public opinion and lost big in a lawsuit. The board had nothing to lose,, the litigation and loss didn’t come out of their pockets.
Were you of even voting age Joe?

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Todd Juvinall

22 March 2015

Golly Joe Smith, tell me more. I can’t seem to recollect what you are talking about. Seems we had a balanced budget with good reserves when I was there. Thanks Walt, I have had to deal with liars like ol’ Joe Smith for many years. They just throw it against the wall to see what will stick. Usually nothing. But it cracks me up that a fellow I don’t know apparently knows me. What a hoot! Also, he did not answer my questions about his allegations on CABPRO and me. He is just a yapper.

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MA Abrams

23 March 2015

Todd, it’s actually Don Bessee writing you…..

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George Rebane

23 March 2015

Russ Steele posts on a very informative and stimulating conversation our party at the Mercatus Conference had with Gov Ricketts of Nebraska. The 30+ min conversation was especially rewarding because it was not hurried and included only us and the governor – time to talk of many things in detail. The governor was very open and clear in his responses, he did not go into the usual long-winded and safe talking points that many politicians do during such encounters.
Our main takeaway was how well Nebraska is being fiscally managed and its aggressive plan to grow its agricultural sector at California’s expense. Nebraska and other states are busy harvesting the dissatisfaction of our agri-businesses with the idiotic regulations and taxes that Sacramento imposes on us all. And this is made even more appealing since our progressive voters are blind to all of it and continue electing politicians who just want to pile on more of the same.
Russ has more details on this fortunate meeting with Gov Ricketts on his blog here –
http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2015/03/22/california-cheese-may-soon-be-nebraska-cheese/

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joe smith

23 March 2015

You have a poor memory Todd (or a selective one). I have talked with you face to face on several occasions. Remember when the gym of Truckee elementary was packed with locals and local businesses and even the chamber rep. Except for your buddy (I think it was Nick Fuller or Bob Bell) who was trying to force a rafting ordinance down the throat of the town, every single person in the room opposed the change. You voted against the will of the people and slipped out the back without saying a single word. 30 minutes later I came across you and your buddy breaking bread at Pizza Junction. Yeah, that was me.I’m sure you don’t forget my loss of civility. I was the guy with a bit of an Irish accent (it comes out when I get angry).

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Walt

23 March 2015

Bitching about an ordnance? LIBS Love those things. Was it the “no dope and booze while rafting” one? Or needing a business licence (and safety certifications) to rent rafts?
Hummm…. The same crap LIBS push on everyone else. How humiliating. Ordinances for LIBS to follow.. It just ain’t right.

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Don Bessee

23 March 2015

WOW. Spend some time planning a convention and come back to find he whos name we will not utter has overflowed the last sand box. I like DR R’s idea to ignore, so we could say to ignore is bliss. — So Ma Abrams 1240- what’s up with that?

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Gregory

23 March 2015

Don, “he whose name shall not be repeated” arrived and began punching. Not for a discussion, just to slap people around, probably because he’s chased everyone away from his own blog who the would actually argue with him and he’s just left with his friends and lickspittle sockpuppet Greek Chorus. On the boring side.
Sometimes when someone gets in your face looking for a fight you need to give them a fight.

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Todd Juvinall

23 March 2015

Joe Smith, sorry but I don’t remember you. You did not apparently make any impression on me. I truly have a great memory but you and your face escape me. You must be talking about some other person.
Regarding the rafting ordinance. As I recall all you no grow jerks turned out and made all kinds of allegations. Of course you libs always go personal and attack people but I was fairly immune from that as time passed. I stood for fairness and the town could have had a great attraction but you people who want nothing to change got your way. I am happy to have voted against you and your pals. If you were angry at my vote, then I am a very happy guy.

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Don Bessee

23 March 2015

I hear ya Gregory.

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Paul Emery

23 March 2015

Yeah Cruz, if he got the nomination would be a dream come true for the Dems who would lap up all the bucks from big business. Cruz is as popular with big business as a fart in a hot tub.

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Bill Tozer

24 March 2015

I mentally correct your grammar.

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Todd Juvinall

24 March 2015

The more the merrier. There will be many jumping into the race. I just love the enthusiasm. Hillary will hopefully get some competition but who knows. Cruz will keep it stirred up and I like that.

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Joe Koyote

24 March 2015

If you don’t like Common Core, then blame British global publishing giant Pearson, who designs and supplies many of the world’s standardized tests. They are behind much of the push for “quantitative assessment” for student achievement world wide. In New York, Pearson has the contract for teacher certification testing which, of course, includes common core principles at it’s base, as well as a $32m contract to supply the state with year end testing materials. Expansion of common core and/or any kind of standardized testing means megabucks profit for Pearson. Anyone smell a rat?

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fish

24 March 2015

Expansion of common core and/or any kind of standardized testing means megabucks profit for Pearson. Anyone smell a rat?
I absolutely small a rat……in D.C.!
The centralization of education and your fellatial devotion to big government makes this kind of crony capitalism possible!
Huzzah JoKe!

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Joe Koyote

24 March 2015

Carp– “fellatial (sp?) devotion to big government” — your “one size fits all” assessment of non-tea partiers (where ever they may fall on the political spectrum scale) fails to hit the mark. And once again, attacking the messenger doesn’t change the message, but tells me that you are suffering from yet another bout of cognitive dissonance. You have no real response but since the information didn’t come from a member of the COS you attack without thinking. Yes, crony capitalism is at the heart of many things government, but you put the cart before the horse. Government is the caboose, the servants of the people including the corporations who are people according to the supreme court. The corporations (acting as shells for the stockholders) are the locomotive. The whole “blame government” ideology is a sleight of hand deflection of blame away from where it belongs, with the corporations. Government doesn’t dream this crap up, the corporations do, and then lobby government to institute favorable policies. If you want to sincerely bitch about something that is actually relevant, bitch about the corporations who run/own government. Government is the symptom not the disease.

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fish

24 March 2015

Government is the caboose, the servants of the people including the corporations who are people according to the supreme court.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah…….deep cleansing breath…….HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Servants of the people? Cause and effect…..oh how do it work?!?
Oh Koyote you’ve done it again!

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fish

24 March 2015

“fellatial (sp?) devotion to big government”
To joyously and symbolically perform the following…
fel·la·ti·o
fəˈlāSH(ē)ˌō
noun
noun: fellatio
oral stimulation of a man’s penis.
Origin
late 19th century: modern Latin, from Latin fellare ‘to suck.’
Go to it boy!

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fish

24 March 2015

The United States Department of Education (ED or DoED), also referred to as the ED for (the) Education Department, is a Cabinet-level department of the United States government. Recreated by the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-88) and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979, it began operating on May 4, 1980.[2]

Yep centralize, centralize, centralize……..that’s what you nitwits do……..create a big fat juicy target for corporate malfeasance and whine like teenaged girls when they take advantage of your stupidity!

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Gregory

24 March 2015

Pearson is a very big rat indeed, but it was $200+ million dollars spent by Gates that drove the development of the Common Core, JoKe.
Not that Pearson didn’t have their fingers in the pot… here’s one Phil Daro, Pearson employee, being trumpeted by Pearson for his chairmanship of the Common Core math standards…
http://www.pearsoned.com/news/pearson-hosts-free-webinar-on-common-core-state-standards-for-mathematics/
I wonder what else he’s done to math education in the US, or California… And I wonder what sort of a degree in mathematics he needed to get those jobs…

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Gregory

24 March 2015

“Cruz is as popular with big business as a fart in a hot tub.” Cruz’s wife is a bigwig at Goldman Sachs and both have stellar big business credentials, so I think Cruz isn’t scaring the bluebloods.
Personally, he strikes me as a phony SOB and the one thing the current President should have taught the GOP is that first term senators without a track record of actually doing anything of substance don’t make for good presidents.

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FUE

24 March 2015

Todd, I find it rather silly that you’re being bothered by Don Bessee / Joe Smith who wasn’t even here when you were supervisor.
This guy never attended any meetings with you as he was not even living in this county.
As to that Irish accent, it’s much more of a accent that has the smell of BS, like much of what he says here…..
See Don this blog program places a “signature box” which is generated from the IP Address that you’re using, and if you and Joe seem to have the same IP design in your signature box, so we know who’s really fully of crapola here…..
See Don, credibility is key here, and just because you shuffle around using several different names, it doesn’t make you any less credible that we already know you are, especially when you’re not smart enuf….

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Todd Juvinall

24 March 2015

I have never met Don but he has been kind to me as Joe has been nasty. So I don’t thin you are correct that they are the same person.

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Gregory

24 March 2015

Dear FUE…. I hadn’t been paying attention to the “signature box” design, and if that is true, that they’re created by the IP address, that means that Pelline needs to change the password on his home WiFi, because by the Jeff Pelline signature blocks generated on the out of control thread, Joe Koyote is using Jeff’s network.
Imagine that.
FUE, thanks for that and the Bessee sock outings.

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Gregory

24 March 2015

“FUE”, I don’t think that holds up all that well. On the out of control thread, Steven Frisch’s sig boxes come up the same as mine and I think George might be happy to confirm I am not Steven Frisch either by words or IP addresses.
At best, IP addresses are used to select images that are not fully unique.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

If Cruz is serious about running for Pres he’s going to have to tell his papa Rafael to stay home and shut up.
This is typical of his “preaching”
“Priests were anointed primarily to minister the glory of God. They were anointed to pray for the people, to offer sacrifices, to care for the temple, to be God’s representatives before the people… Kings were anointed to take dominion. Kings were anointed to go to war, win the war, and bring the spoils of war to priests so the work of the kingdom of God could be accomplished. The king needed the blessing of the priest in order to be successful in battle… The priest also needed for the king to be successful in battle because the priest needed the spoils of war in order to repair the temple, in order to carry out the ministry that God had entrusted him.”
From a a sermon he preached on August 26, 2012 at the New Beginnings megachurch in Irving, Texas, led by Christian Zionist charismatic pastor Larry Huch.

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fish

25 March 2015

If Cruz is serious about running for Pres he’s going to have to tell his papa Rafael to stay home and shut up.
Oh I don’t know Paul….recent history has shown that Presidents and presidential candidates can have wacky relatives and not seem completely off putting to the hoi polloi.
Carter had brother billy…..Reagan had Nancy…..Clinton had Roger….Obama has Michelle….!
Don’t why Cruz handlers can’t manage this as well!

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George Rebane

25 March 2015

PaulE 852am – Pray tell how the senator’s father’s religious teachings will be used by the Left to harm the senator’s campaign? The Repubs have yet to attack Obama for his considerable exposure to Islam during his formative years. Will this be another example of the Right/Left asymmetry?

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Todd Juvinall

25 March 2015

I am in the Walker camp right now but Ted Cruz has some great points and he has some I have a problem with. But even this Harvard educated man who doesn’t need a teleprompter, this man who is a US Senator first termer, is much better for America than Obama and his cohorts. I would suggest that America voted Obama into the Presidency even though his Papa was a communist-Islamic man who hated Great Britain and most western nations. So, take your shots there Paul Emery, you have no leg to stand on regarding the “sins” of a father or a relative. Jeeze, I thought you were a supposedly “open minded” man.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Michelle a wacky relative? I always considered her to be a major attribute. Where did you get that from.
In this case Cruz is relying on the Fundamentalist Christian community to be his base support. How you separate his dad from that is a serious problem. Christian Dominionism is pretty strong medicine and Papa Cruz is right in the middle of the movement.

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Todd Juvinall

25 March 2015

Oh and Alan Dershowitz, the famed Professor, called Cruz the smartest man he ever met. Top that. What a hoot!

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Joe Koyote

25 March 2015

Gregory 6:36– Joe Koyote is using Jeff’s network.” I think not. I live 7 miles from Nevada City.
Carp — keep trying pal.. one of these days you may make some sense.. but not yet. perhaps anger management would help.

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fish

25 March 2015

Posted by: Joe Koyote | 25 March 2015 at 09:19 AM
YAWN……..

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fish

25 March 2015

Posted by: George Rebane | 25 March 2015 at 09:11 AM
Paul is referring I believe to the MSM predilection for impugning the ardently christian. This would likely fall into that category.
Michelle a wacky relative? I always considered her to be a major attribute. Where did you get that from.
I don’t know….the fake hospital job…..secret service convoys in downtown DC so she could show the rabble how to buy organic arugula lettuce…..her non stop travel of the taxpayers dime….having the White House Florist escorted out of the White House (Man that must have been quite the cat fight) .etc.
But hey ….if you like her.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Fish
Care to compare vacation time used by the Bush’s and Obama’s? Oh I’ll do it for you
From Fact Check
Q: Is it true that George W. Bush took more vacation days than Barack Obama?
A: Yes. Before his two-week trip to Martha’s Vineyard in August, Obama’s count was 125 full or partial days and Bush’s total at the same point in his presidency was 407.
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/08/presidential-vacations/

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Walt

25 March 2015

Now that didn’t take long,, LIBS slamming Ted,, from family to time in office.
Short term memory loss guys? We know more about Ted today that we do about “O”. ( remember ALL his records have been sealed? Even to this day.)
BTW, I don’t think Ted has voted “present”,, unlike “O” did.
And what REALLY bites for the Left, is that Cruz is Tea Party backed.
The LIBS are a crafty bunch. Give them time. Just wait for them to start calling the Tea Party “ISIS of America”.

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Todd Juvinall

25 March 2015

I thought the less Bush governed was pure happiness to you Paul Emery. What a hoot!

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fish

25 March 2015

Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 March 2015 at 09:35 AM
Oops sorry Paul…..I pushed your BUSHHATE button.
We were talking about relatives….I used what this non democrat sees as an abuse of the system by Michelle Obama. If you want to discuss the straight up overuse of vacation privileges by presidents and their families in general we’ll probably be in fairly close agreement.
Since I didn’t vote for Bush I feel no need to defend him like you do with Obama.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

Fish, there is a difference between the “ardently Christian” (grammar note to capitalize Christian) and Christian Dominionism which his dad is a champion of and who are major Ted Cruz supporters.
Froma sermon preached on August 26, 2012 at the New Beginnings megachurch in Irving, Texas, led by Christian Zionist charismatic pastor Larry Huch.
“It’s not a coincidence that in a few weeks, we go into what’s called in the Bible Rosh Hashanad [sic]… It will be the beginning of the spiritual year 2012. The number 12 means divine government. That God will begin to rule and reign. Not Wall Street, not Washington, God’s people and His kingdom will begin to rule and reign. I know that’s why God got Rafael’s son elected, Ted Cruz the next senator.
But here’s the exciting thing… The rabbinical teaching is… that in a few weeks begins that year 2012 and that this will begin what we call the end-time transfer of wealth. And that when these Gentiles begin to receive this blessing, they will never go back financially through the valley again. They will grow and grow and grow. It’s said this way: that God is looking at the church and everyone in it and deciding in the next three and a half years who will be his bankers. And the ones that say here I am Lord, you can trust me, we will become so blessed that we will usher in the coming of the messiah.”

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fish

25 March 2015

Fish, there is a difference between the “ardently Christian” (grammar note to capitalize Christian) and Christian Dominionism which his dad is a champion of and who are major Ted Cruz supporters.
I doubt most in the MSM would be able to differentiate. If you were paying attention the statement I made (“Paul is referring I believe to the MSM predilection for impugning the ardently christian. This would likely fall into that category.) actually bolsters your argument. You think that Cruz father needs to “shut up” if Ted has any hope of winning the election. It’s not necessary for the MSM to get “into the weeds” regarding the differences in Christian teachings in this instance…they can and will paint with a broad brush to tar Cruz through his father.
Point Emery.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

That’s really good Todd (9:42).
Fish, I voted for Obama first time around but voted to fire him in 2012. I went with Gary Johnson that time around.

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Paul Emery

25 March 2015

George
You are a fan of Rafael Cruz.
What do you make of Christian Dominionism which he champions?

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