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George Rebane

Data homogenization is not an objective scientific process.

Recreational marijuana will be legalized across the country over the next several years.  RR is on record as a proponent of judicious progress in this direction.  Nevada County’s economy already enjoys a major contribution from the illegal RMJ that various estimates put above the $100M range annually.  Legalization will drastically change the local RMJ production industry, but our county’s political and economic development leadership continues to ignore the existential contribution of RMJ to our economy.  A better approach would be to recognize NC’s role as a major RMJ producer, and plan for the coming changeover as California is about legalize RMJ production.  NC should create an environment which will benefit the local economy as RMJ moves into prime time so as to attract commercial growers that will produce the weed in legal grows that contribute zero nuisance to established developed areas and generate taxable revenue to the benefit of all.  In today’s Union George Boardman makes a good case (here) for such preparations.  (Russ Steele has another take here on the impact of RMJ legalization on Nevada County's economy.  I contend his assessment that NC cannot support large commercial RMJ grows and processing to replace the current 'mom & pop' illegal producers.)


Public pensions are not inviolate when a municipality declares Chapter 9 bankruptcy.  CALPERS has been arguing that funding such pensions must be done first, last, and always even if it means selling off every last asset belonging to a city.  People are finally beginning to recognize that almost all of such pension agreements were negotiated under some demonstrable presumption of fraud or gross incompetence, and therefore they are not as sacrosanct as the public service unions and their account managers like CALPERS have insisted.  Now in the case of Stockton’s bankruptcy, federal judge Christopher Klein has ruled in favor of providing Stockton (and by case law, other jurisdictions) relief so that they don’t have to sell their fire trucks and parks to fund fat pensions to public retirees.  In sum –

What all this means is that Calpers can’t stop cities from modifying pensions in bankruptcy. This has ramifications across the U.S. because unions are trying to make public pension benefits inviolable as a matter of constitutional law. If that view prevails, then politicians can make irresponsible deals to get elected that no future politicians can rescind even if they become unaffordable. (more here)  

The hushed up climate change debacle continues.  New evidence comes in almost daily about another discovery of doctored data and mangled models to make the political case that runaway manmade global warming is getting worse, and time for draconian policies needed to save mankind is running out.  Recently RR readers have been posting links (here and here) that cite foreign media reports picked up by bloggers that no US lamestream outlet will touch.  One of the most dangerous consequences of such fraudulent climate change promoting is the support it gives to the UN’s blatant promotion of Agenda21 (here).  And in Nevada County we continue denying both AGW fraud and the advance of A21.

The local hard left continues its ballistic trajectory to criticize The Union’s editorial policy and journalistic practices.  Our Designated Duty Reader of those outlets emailed me the recent blast from the Cosmic Critic and Monument to Morality who again takes publisher Hemig to task for running a “cesspool” of an op-ed page.  It seems that the latest infractions include not declaring a contributor’s affiliation to organizations like the local tea party, even if the submitted piece only reflects the writer’s personal opinion.  But the main complaints of the leftwing arise for the usual reasons that their writers’ opinion pieces build upon specious and unsupported arguments that are ludicrous on their face, and therefore easily refuted by people of opposite views and even political independents.

In 'The Dangerous Lie that 'Bush Lied'' Laurence Silberman points out that lamestream journalists have taken Bush2's post 9/11 pronouncements of Saddam's WMDs as deliberate lies to be revealed truth unexamined and inscribed in stone.  As an example, Silberman cites reporter Ron Fournier's assaults on Bush2's credibility.  (We note that some RR commenters are similarly afflicted.)  Mr. Silberman is a senior federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, and was co-chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.  He concludes –

The charge is dangerous because it can take on the air of historical fact—with potentially dire consequences. I am reminded of a similarly baseless accusation that helped the Nazis come to power in Germany: that the German army had not really lost World War I, that the soldiers instead had been “stabbed in the back” by politicians. … Sometime in the future, perhaps long after most of us are gone, an American president may need to rely publicly on intelligence reports to support military action. It would be tragic if, at such a critical moment, the president’s credibility were undermined by memories of a false charge peddled by the likes of Ron Fournier.

[10feb15 update]  Kudos to Heidi Hall who in her 10feb15 Union column – ‘High time for cannabis common sense’ – outlines her position on RMJ that is very similar to that long-promoted here on RR.

Kissinger explains Obama’s backpedaling on Iran to the Senate.  It is clear from the record that the west, led from behind by Obama, has quietly switched its strong initial policy (backed by UN resolutions) of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapon capability, to one of managing the scope of Iran’s nuclear weapons development program.  Specifically, these dumbos are now trying to negotiate an agreement calling for detecting a “breakout period” of one year to Iran’s having a nuclear weapon.  This, of course, requires the deployment of a very intrusive inspection effort which Iran will oppose, and on which our lame duck will cave.  (more here)

Speaking of the lame duck, David Axelrod gives evidence that we also have a lame brain in the White House.  In his newly released memoir – Believer: My forty years in politics – Axelrod makes the case that Obama really does believe that his socialist policies calling for an ever bigger, more intrusive, and higher taxing government is good for America.  And here we thought the sumbich was doing all that to keep harvesting more Democrat votes.  But then again, we may have been right since Axelrod also reports that luminaries like Barbra Streisand advises Obama “to talk to people in simpler terms, for the Gruberesque reason: ‘I hate to say it, but people are stupid.’”

[13feb15 update]  Almost all longtime temperature records used in the current climate hysteria analyses and reporting have been subjected to what is known as 'data homogenization' (here).  This is an extremely subjective process involving substitution into the temperature record of variously interpolated or homogenized temperatures for the actual raw measured temperatures.  The interpolation process is the entry point of subjectivity since the neighboring temperature points may be selected on any arbitrary basis involving temporal, spatial, or other attributes chosen by the investigator.  And therefore, these attributes and identification of suitable 'neighbors' can be done to suit any given conclusion.  Homogenized data records need to be highly qualified before being used in any subsequent analyses like calculating regressions or determining trends.

[16sep15 update]  Sarin in Iraq.  What revoltin’ development this is to the ‘Bush2 lied’ progressives!  Is there no more equitable, inclusive, sensitive social justice left in the world.  The NYT, the Gray Lady herself, has the temerity to report (here) that Iraq was indeed full of Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.  Enough even to covertly sell to the CIA over a multi-year period through its ‘Operation Avarice’.  Why did the NYT report this now?  I can’t believe that this is the first leak of Operation Avarice, and the story of why it has been suppressed for so long would be even of greater interest to me.

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141 responses to “Ruminations – 9feb15 (updated 16feb15)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    I have some thoughts on Mr Boardman’s column at Sierra Foothills Commentary. Legalization will not boost the local economy, it will be just the opposite.
    http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2015/02/09/misguided-boardman-legal-mj-not-good-for-local-economy/
    I certainly look forward to other views on the issue.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Some great stuff to chew on our good Dr.
    First, (for the sake of discussion) lets say MJ is legalized. ” Big dope” is already spending millions to make sure the have the market cornered. Mom and Pop grower is sure to be regulated right out of the market. Quality control isn’t cheap. OH,, the regulations that will be drawn up and passed.( with plenty of political pocket lining to make sure of that…. )
    Many a time I have thrown the “drug free work place” into the mix, and what liability insurers have to say, and it usually gets ignored. Workers in Colorado have been finding that out that just because it’s “legal”, doesn’t mean they can keep their job. Getting canned for “drug use” has doubled.
    Also in that state, taxpayers have been paying for rec. MJ use. ( welfare recipients)
    Will Ca. ban the use of EBT cards for MJ? Cig.s and booze can’t be bought with EBT cards.( legally)
    Taxation will be like herding cats. It sound good, looks great on paper and proposed spread sheets, but as I stated before, the bureaucracy created to collect and enforce,
    would expend more than it would ever take in.( run a deficit from day one)
    As for fiscally saving the County’s bacon,, I say,, good luck with that, when every other county will have just as many “producers”. So… Just where is all that weed going to be sold? I can see Nevada putting up their own “ag.” stations on all the roads leaving Ca., just to stem the overflow.
    Colorado is finding out it wasn’t such a great idea. Soon Oregon’s legalization laws kick in. Now to see how fast it goes down hill.
    So pay attention to the “lab rats” and see if that’s what we really want to happen here.

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  3. Walt Avatar

    One more thought. Will the Boarder patrol stop, stopping MJ coming in from Mexico?
    or will they just impose a tax, and the mules will have to pay it when they get caught?

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 1213pm – Why do you suppose that collecting taxes from large commercial growers would be any more difficult than from, say, growers of specialty crops that are grown in big greenhouses, or from any manufactory that makes and ships out parts?
    I have no hope of small mom/pop RMJ growers surviving. They will not be able to compete with large well-managed commercial grows. The real argument I have is with the notion that NC cannot be the home for such large grows. I think we can if for nothing else than availability of water here in the foothills vs the flats.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Collecting taxes on MJ will be far more difficult than collecting on cigs.
    and tobacco. For “big” MJ to be “tax solvent”,, “growing your own” would have to be agin’ the law. From this common ditch digger’s view of things, you can only tax what you can control. I could sell a truck load of firewood and not worry about the tax man.
    If I has a good spring on my land, I would have no problem selling a load or two of water.( at a huge profit around here) Yes, those are just some simple examples.
    But trying to tax what just about anyone can grow is a fools errand.
    Plenty of laws will be passed about growing. But good luck enforcing. We can’t even get a grip on so called medical VS profit patches today. And once legal,,, let the fun begin.
    Everybody knows somebody who grows or can grow. So even if “big MJ” buys the politicians,
    the untaxed bags will surely outsell the taxed ones.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 155pm – I think you answered your own question and made my point. The path of product to consumer will be determined by the market. IF the small grower can grow and distribute black market MJ for less than the big guys, and IF the add on taxes puts the delivered price of ‘institutional RMJ’ significantly above that of bootleg RMJ to also account for the convenience factor of being able to buy it legally a nearby outlet, then if all those IFs hold, the black market will rise and the big guys will be in trouble.
    But you have yet to make the case for all those IFs, and the ‘natural forces’ will mitigate against all those IFs. Big companies will successfully argue that the taxes have to be appropriately reduced lest the state gets nothing, and the law enforcement apparatus will gleefully re-engage themselves in putting down black market producers.
    Remember, we can also make all kinds of good hooch in our houses. But the profit margins are slim to none when compared with the buying the taxed stuff from a nearby store (and you don’t have to worry about going blind; just take care of your liver).

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  7. Walt Avatar

    ??? You can’t have it both ways my good Doc. Legalize for the tax, and legitimate sales,
    then when the black market is there, that screws “big weed” out of sales. No tax revenue.
    Yes,, when legalized, the bottom will drop out of the market. ( or at least it should)
    That didn’t happen in CO. Also in CO.,, taxes didn’t meet expectations. ( called that one)
    You stated before that Jonny Law wouldn’t have the need to chase dope growers if it was legal. Seems you have just contradicted that. No,,, they wouldn’t be chasing for growing,, just braking the Rico act.( tax evasion) Nice viscous circle.
    Making home brew, or a backyard still is an art in it’s own. Even less people can even attempt that, let alone make a profit. ( if they don’t blow themselves up in the process.)
    Yup, we give lip service to DUI,, since there is a parking lot in front, or in back of every bar. Yet even today a kid can get a bag of weed, easier than a can of beer.
    So… What should the state do about the drug free workplace laws? Seems legalizing weed is going to open the door even more to the “new work force”. ( illegals)
    Pre employment and random drug testing isn’t going to stop.
    Even today, those with Med MJ cards get turned away from employment.( in most cases)

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    Ms Patricia Smith sent me an email reporting that TypePad would not let her post a comment regarding the renewed discussion on marijuana. I invited her to email me the comment and I would post for her. With a couple of spell corrections, the following was received this afternoon from Patricia Smith –
    The economic elephant in the room is cannabis. Like it or not, marijuana accounts for more than DOUBLE all other agriculture produced in this county combined. (See the Union, Jan 17, http://www.theunion.com/news/14613687-113/study-looks-to-quantify-nevada-countys-pot-economy. )
    I am working closely with the Coalition for Cannabis Policy Reform (CCPR) who are drafting the 2016 initiative to tax & regulate marijuana and I assure you that they are carving out a place for small mom & pop growers with a three-tiered system for licensing and taxation.
    Rather than speculate if the program will work, let’s look to Colorado for answers. Here are some Facts for you:
    Colorado’s was ranked #1 by Business Insider as the fastest growing economy in the Country.
    Home sales increased 26.3% and the price of homes jumped by 10% in the past year.
    Denver is ranked among the top commercial real estate markets.
    Colorado has collected over $67.6 million in taxes and fees in the first 11 months that the program has been in existence. (Despite the fact that 2/3 of the market are medical patients who are taxed at a much lower rate than are commercial sales.)
    16,000 good paying jobs with benefits have been created in the past year according to the Marijuana Enforcement Division of the Colorado Dept of Revenue.
    Tourism is booming. Colorado ski resorts attracted 12.6 million visitors last year, and Denver had 14 million tourists last year that spent $4 BILLION in their city.
    Meanwhile:
    Violent crime has fallen by 2.9%.
    Traffic fatalities fell by 3% since pot was legalized, according to the Colorado Dept of Safety.
    Sting operations have failed to detect a single instance where dispensaries sold marijuana to teenagers.
    Teen consumption has remained stable (no drastic increase in teen usage), according to the Colorado Dept of Public Health.
    Does that sound like a failure to you? Let’s tax and regulate the market so we get the benefits this industry has to offer instead of spending millions of dollars trying to defend the status quo.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 524pm – I think we’re talking past each other.
    You are not making the case that mom/pop MJ black market will stop the commercial grows. Just saying it’s so doesn’t make the case. And I gave you the condition under which ‘Johnny Law’ would still chase dope growers in a legalized marketplace if the numbers made it profitable for them, just the same as they are chasing every other counterfeiter and tax evading manufacturer. The mom/pop market’s survival is a dollars and cents issue, and until someone comes up with a spreadsheet that makes their case, I’ll stand with me recent comments on the matter, including my 402pm above.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Brian Williams has done the country a big favor in his lying ways. It should be noted that as the “dean” of the lamestreams, he makes many of the “news” stories about Iraq and others suspect for veracity. WMD’s and Sadaam’s quest for yellow cake and many other stories may make the left look a bit deeper. Nitwit Valerie Plame and her scumbag hubby now look like the chumps they are and Scooter Libby should be given a pardon.
    Regarding the local leftwingnut blogger and his “panty-wad” about the Union and its Editorials. Notice that when a loony opinion from the left is made he praises them and when a conservative piece is published he rails against it? Well, does he think we believe his “purpleness”? Jeeze! It is so transparent the man is a loony lib.
    When I watched Obama’s interview with the babe on the Internet I was shaking my head in disbelief. He says the “jihad” is really a blownup story by the lamestreams! And that Global Warming is a greater threat! I mean, the man has to be drinking some real mind altering Kool-Aid!

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar

    Apparently Todd has different standards for so called “Conservative” newscasters such as Andrew Slimebart who was busted for editing a video to create a favorable message. This was later picked up by Fox and others and amplified in national media. Earlier Todd said on this blog that he didn’t care if the slimster used dubious methods as long as it was against Liberals. Here’s some details.
    “Media Matters has documented a timeline of Andrew Breitbart’s smear of Shirley Sherrod, from Breitbart’s initial posting of his deceptively edited clip of Sherrod — which was amplified by Fox News and other right-wing media — through the release of the full video of Sherrod’s comments, which made clear the context of her remarks. ”
    http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/07/22/timeline-of-breitbarts-sherrod-smear/168090

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    This is a direct quote from Todd.
    “Regarding Breitbart. As long as he slimed liberals he was my guy. That seems to be the problem you have Paul Emery. He slimed your ilk. If he made a few mistakes along the way so be it. ”
    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 09 January 2015 at 03:45 PM
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2015/01/scattershots-4jan15/comments/page/2/#comments

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  13. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    George, I also posted a comment yeterday that must have been lost in Typepad limbo.
    I think there will still be a place for small, regional, certified organic MJ growers.
    Think farm-to-pipe locally grown produce.
    I like to compare MJ with grape growing or beer brewing. You have your big corporate vineyards in the valley and you have your smaller regional appelations in the foothills. Local growers will be safe if consumers want what we are growing up here in the hills.
    If if turns out that MJ grown elsewhere is more desirable, I would expect the local industry to suffer. MJ seems pretty happy wherever it is planted so desirable variations are probably more a function of genetics than geography. People originally moved into the remote regions to grow MJ because the hills, tree cover, and lack of access worked in the grower’s favor. Without the need to “hide out” in the hills to grow MJ, folks might prefer areas with less tree cover and more sunshine.
    I expect plenty of regulatory hurdles to be erected by the State, but they will not be insurmountable and the cost of meeting these regulations will be passed on to the consumer.
    A friend was in a Washington recreational MJ shop last week and, even with a glut of available product, the stores are getting top dollar. They asked what the price was when the availablity was scarce and were told it was twice that price.
    http://newvansterdam.com/menu/menu-summary/#supply

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  14. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    That was wierd. I did not enter a security code – it just posted.
    Supposed to be two Ls in appellation.

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  15. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    I read in an article on MJ in Morocco that the farmers tried other crops but MJ was the only crop that could survive the droughts they experience.
    There goes the “MJ uses too much water” arguement.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/681267ef0cbe4799b5171acf95c87f2f/morocco-mulls-legal-pot-growing-breaking-taboo

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Apparently Todd has different standards for so called “Conservative” newscasters such as Andrew Slimebart who was busted for editing a video to create a favorable message. This was later picked up by Fox and others and amplified in national media. Earlier Todd said on this blog that he didn’t care if the slimster used dubious methods as long as it was against Liberals. Here’s some details.
    “Media Matters has documented a timeline of Andrew Breitbart’s smear of Shirley Sherrod, from Breitbart’s initial posting of his deceptively edited clip of Sherrod — which was amplified by Fox News and other right-wing media — through the release of the full video of Sherrod’s comments, which made clear the context of her remarks. ”

    So what’s the big deal Paul? Whether it’s setting Chevy pickups on fire –
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dateline_NBC#General_Motors_vs._NBC
    or selectively editing Florida 911 calls to falsely make a guy look like a racist –
    http://gawker.com/5898876/nbc-apologizes-for-editing-george-zimmermans-911-call-on-today-show
    NBC is the MSM “go to” for news fabrication.
    I think it’s perfectly appropriate they, NBC, should keep Brian Williams in the anchor chair!

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Keep Brian Williams in the anchor’s chair. He is a useful tool. Everytime someone tunes into NBC’s most popular 20 second news lead-in guy, they will be reminded in the back of their minds of another one who “misspoke”.
    We can’t do much about Mr. Williams, but we do have a say in the other one who “misspoke and is human”.
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913.80726.51560645913/10152796258860914/?type=1&theater
    Opps. Did I say on another thread “no more visual aides?” Be bad, I misspoke. What difference does it make anyway????

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  18. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Re the ASA email to George- Sounds great right? The facts from the CO national Law enforcement conf paint a different picture. Of the 31 cities that voted to go recreational 26 have now banned it after experiencing it. The state sponsored financial analysis done by CO State U. shows that they will never hit the 140 million in taxes as originally claimed. In fact they are realizing that they will have to include general fund money in the budget for pot enforcement. In other words its not even paying its way nor coming close to providing the funds for schools and prevention. Their conclusion after the budget demands- ‘revenue from mj taxes will contribute little or nothing to the state general fund.’ Major crime rates are down across the country however in CO simple assault and criminal mischief are up and disorderly conduct up 51%, drug violations up 12% and fatal pot related car crashes went from 7% of total in 2007 to nearly 17% in 2012. Teen admissions to treatment facilities for pot up 66% in 2014 from 2012. Pot grows on parklands up 4 fold. Darn those pesky facts.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I see Paul Emery is at it again. He says all the Breitbarts/Conservative internet sources are crap and then says he cares Breibart did a naughty. Can’t have it both ways Paul Emery.
    Breibart according to you and your liberal ilk is a phony baloney so why do you care if he edited a video? It seems his people actually did video some of your buddies telling people they could perform child sex and they would help them get an abortion. Wasn’t that it? So, you go defend to your last breath your idol Brian Williams and Micheal “lying ass” Moore all you want. It just cracks me up.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    We have MMJ already and now are ready to embark on RMJ. Mr. Kesti a couple of weeks back argued that only after a year or so it is too early to get a true picture of CO and WA’s growing pains as they smooth out the bumps in the road.
    CO is basically an indoor grow state, with the lion’s share of the regulated grows going to the Big Boys, aka Warehouse Growers. After a stink was made by the Mom and Pops decrying the Warehouse Growers monopoly, the State opened up market to a few Mom and Pops known as Greenhouse growers. Greenhouse growers are limited to supplying a meager 100 ounces ( not pounds, that’s ozs.) per permit. Big Boyz rule, Mom and Pops drool.
    WA State has a two tier regulatory system, one for RMJ and one for MMJ. The MMJ dispensaries are practically unregulated for all intents and purposes, coupled with a much lower tax on product sold. The RMJ is a heavily regulated process with layers upon layers of regulation on every step of the process from seed to retailer. Each layer of regulation increases the cost of the product before reaching the retail store. The regulated growers (many with hundreds upon hundreds of farmland under cultivation) are decrying the unfair advantage the lesser taxed and lesser regulated dispensaries have. The medical dispensaries are saying if they had to face the same burdensome regs and taxes as the RMJ suppliers, they would have to shudder their doors.
    Growing pains. Pun intended.
    Both WA and CO reveal one thing. The Big Boyz have cornered the vast majority of the marketplace. Mom and Pops: be careful what you wish for.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Michael Moore is not a journalist, he an entertainer in the mold of Rush Linbaugh. You have no standards for journalism as witnessed in your statement which I will quote once again. You also admit that Slimebart “made mistakes”. Once again your quote
    “Regarding Breitbart. As long as he slimed liberals he was my guy. That seems to be the problem you have Paul Emery. He slimed your ilk. If he made a few mistakes along the way so be it. ”
    You have no standards for journalism and should keep your mouth shut on these matters because you are making a fool of yourself.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery, I have no idea who Slimebart is. Is he a journalist? Michael Moore is an entertainer? Wow! Who knew? I thight he did documentaries the libs like you cite as gospel! Oh well. Rush Limbaugh is just an entertainer? Wow! I thought you and your libs pals tried to get him booted from KNCo. All he did was call that college tart a taker for asking taxpayers to pay for her condoms!
    I stand by mo quote that as long as libs get their “just desserts” and are called out for the lying scum they are than I will support “entertainers” like Breitbart.
    As far as standards go. You have your opinions which are usually wrong and biased extreme left. I have mine which are middle right, correct and logical. I think you need to look in the mirror for the true “no standards person”. I have great stadards.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Brad C. The Moroccans in the Rif valley do not grow fields of 20ft. tall and 10ft wide irrigated sequoias bathed in chemicals as we have here. This will be interesting. You could see some of gov. moonbeams 25 million dollar war chest being spent to defeat a radical ballot prop like pattie wants to see.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    I am going to withdraw from this conversation to save you further embarrassment.

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  25. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Taranto at WSJ had another amusing headline today, regarding the shenanigans at NBC News…
    “Brian Salad Surgery; Science, journalism and “moral authority.””
    For you folks who aren’t Boomers, THE ’70’s album to see how good your stereo was at high volumes was “Brain Salad Surgery” by Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
    Williams is now officially on a six month timeout with no pay. I can’t imagine he’ll ever be back in the anchor chair, he screwed that pooch. Big time. In network news, you can’t make stuff up and get caught.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: Heidi Hall’s editorial. Only one thought. It seemed to me rather than taking a new reasonable approach (which the editorial clearly was), it seemed more of recycling Measure S. The question that Measure S attempted to adress was how do we help the small MMJ grower AND address nuisance complaints simultaneously.
    Identifing the problem and appointing a fair and neutral…er…fair and balanced Blue Ribbon Comission is how the Left does thing. Moving on.
    Small growers and their neighbors. Too many rats in the cage. Solutions: no neighbors.

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Thanks Paul Emery I was wondering when you would realize what an embarrassment you becoming. Phew!

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    More on the pot industry. Maybe this should be posted under “Those Left Behind”. It all gets down to marketing to make money. If you can’t off your inventory, what good is it? And agriculture has bumper crops and crops wiped out by weather, pestilence, and foul unexpected weather. Such is life for the farmer.
    One thing that has hurt WA’s growers is the slow openings of retail stores. Less than half of the planned retail stores have opened. Why? Because many communities have said “No way, Jose, not in our town.” Think something around 170 retail outlets were planned by the State Liquor Board, but as of last month only 85 or 87 stores opened.
    Also, there is a big difference between CO’s geography and proximity to virgin markets than WA has as this link points out. Consider CA’s own proximity to the herb coming in from Mexico. At least we have Disneyland and the Redwoods to draw tourists in. More growing pains. Comparing CO to Wa is like comparing Yakima apples to Colorado hops.
    Food for thought.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/washington-more-pot-smoke-155313445.html

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  29. Patricia Smith Avatar

    Re Bessee, Feb 10, 4:44:
    Facts are pesky when you have to manipulate them to support your opinions. Let’s dissect Bessee’s points one by one (and note that couldn’t refute any of mine).
    First, a news flash: “Gov’t misses mark in projected tax revenues!” When has the gov’t ever been right on any projection? So the tax revenues missed the projected mark, they still collected $67.6 million in taxes and fees in the first 11 months of the program. That is nothing to sneeze at. Would you prefer your taxes go up to cover this revenue?
    So far Colorado schools have been granted $2.5 million to hire more healthe professionals and the Dept of Education’s BEST program, Buiding Excellent Schools Today, has been awarded $10 million to finance new construction.
    Bessee’s assertion that the program is costing more to enforce than the tax revenues cover is also misleading. Between 2012 and 2013, in Colorado, the number of marijuana cases filed in state courts plummeted 77%. The number of petty marijuana possession charges fell 81%. That represents an enormous savings to law enforcement.
    Meanwhile pot offenses that make it to court have dropped, creating a significant savings to both law enforcement and tax payers. Between 2012 and 2013, in Colorado, the number of marijuana cases filed in state courts plummeted 77%. The number of petty marijuana possession charges fell 81%, according to the Denver Post, Feb 24, 2014.
    Besse also cited a 10% increase in traffic fatalities ascribed to people driving under the influence of MJ. He neglected to mention that traffic fatalities have been reduced by 3% since pot became legal in the state – hardly an example of endangering the general public.
    He also failed to note that the study he cited clearly stated that MJ was not the contributing factor in these accidents. THC stays in ones system for weeks so it is entirely possible that these drivers were sober as a judge when the accident occured. He also didn’t mention that even the examples of drivers that tested positive for marijuana accounted for an increase of 3 incidents, from 44 to 47 accidents, while drivers under the influence of alcohol made up the bulk of the remaining 498 fatalities.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    When playing with the numbers, one must also take into account population increases, icy roads, time of day, etc. Yesirre, didn’t CA push through the Lotto on the marketing campaign “our schools win too”. They were saying at the time that so much money was projected to fill the State’s coffers than the San Diego School District should be ordering their own snow plows.
    Two things are certain. First, government always has a knack of losing money and tossing it up into the air with less coming down with each toss, from revenue generated from cig taxes to pay for Health Programs to fixing potholes to making custom license plates, to CDV on recyclable items. Just saying….
    Second, it is still way too early to get a good picture on just two states that have legalized recreational marijuana. Once the newness wears off, we can play with figures. Until then, one or two harvests are just amonolies. Remember the excitement when we had our first million dollar scratch off winner? Heck, they threw him a parade and televised it. I still remember his goofy Irish Leprechaun hat. Wait for the hype to die down and then tell me some names of the last 50-200 lottery million dollar winners.
    Yes, 2016 is coming up too soon so I hope we get it right. If not, the Late Night comedians will have a field day.

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Not my assertions, these are the official reports as of Jan 2015 so referring to a feb 2014 article is irrelevant. The financial analysis was paid for by the state and was done by CO. State U., a more reliable source than the asa. Just look at the WAG (wild ass guess) that was framed as an analysis of Nevada County, if you read closely the whole premise is based on a guesstamate on top of an opinion on top of another guess. Probably used the same stringent scientific standards that generated the asa poll of voters that said 70% of voters favored measure s when in fact it was just the opposite. The projected numbers sold to the voters were not the governments but the proponents. It was promised that 40 million would go to schools so crowing about the paltry 10 million that happened only confirms what was presented last month. We have already provided the sourcing to many interested parties in Nevada County.

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  32. Patricia Smith Avatar

    If you provided the sourcing “to many interested parties” in NC, why can’t you cite your sources here like I did? Most of my facts came from official gov’t documents, others from published newspaper articles that did tthe research, but I cite them.
    I also attended a seminar on Jan 5, where Jordan Welington, state regulator of Colorado’s Marijuana Enforcement Division, who believes the program is working much better than he had expected. He acknowledged some problems they are still working out – like dosing standards for edibles that we wholeheartedly support.
    Again, it is primarily law enforcement (and Don Bessee) who try to deride the benefits that have come from legalizing marijuana.
    The leaders of the Coalition for Cannabis Policy Reform will be in Nevada County on March 10 for a stakeholder’s meeting about the 2016 initiative. I suggest parties from all sides attend this meeting to voice your concerns. Venue and time TBD.

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar

    This is a good time to remind ourselves that Law Enforcement fought to the bitter end the enactment of the 21sth Amendment that ended prohibition. If they would have had their way it would be illegal today to have a beer while watching a football game or a glass of wine with dinner. The law enforcement, incarnation unions and lobby are very strong and will fight legalization to the bitter end because enforcement is a cash cow to all of them.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    Concerning the “Bush lied” segment of this post can we agree that concerning WMD’s there are four possible scenarios.
    1 Bush Lied
    2 He was fed faulty intelligence by the CIA and others that he based his decision on
    3 That WMD’s did exist but were either hurried out of the country or are still there and never discovered.
    4. Bush/Cheney created a culture of not wanting to know
    Pick one or add other options

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Bush and Cheney are great Americans. They did a fine job and the economy was fantastic until the liberal policies from Clinton kicked in. Paul Emery, just move on man you look totally foolish and paranoid.

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  36. George Boardman Avatar

    There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with The Union’s editorial policy and practices, unless you can’t get over the fact that you aren’t running the editorial department anymore.
    Let’s examine Pelline’s two most recent criticisms of The Union. First, he says the paper doesn’t provide context or background information on Sue Jeffrey’s contributed column, thus presumable leading the paper’s gullible readers down the garden path.
    What context does the paper need to provide? That this is the latest in a series of commentaries on the acceptance of newcomers, a topic that was first addressed by Jim Firth? Regular readers of the editorial page can figure it out all by themselves.
    As long as Jeffrey is expressing her personal opinion, there’s no need to list her political affiliations or activities. If readers can’t figure out where she’s coming from politically, they should skip to the less challenging material found on the comics and sports pages.
    Apparently behind on his monthly quota of criticism, Pelline accuses The Union of showing poor taste because a reporter was trying to learn more about a wreck that killed a 17-year-old girl. Let’s put this in context, something he chose not to do.
    The wreck occurred Saturday and the reporter was working Sunday on a story for Monday’s newspaper. The CHP said it couldn’t explain how the victim’s car ended up in the northbound lanes of Highway 49, and no witnesses came forward at the crash scene. It’s not poor taste to seek out witnesses who may not have stopped and could explain what happened; it’s what reporters do.
    Pelline knows all this–after all, as he keeps reminding everybody, he’s a former big time reporter. He just chooses to be intellectually dishonest.

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    If I recall correctly, Pelline has not asked for all the background of the libs when they do a post. How about Ron Lowe? The Union gives that lefty nut a weekly space almost. But, as we all know, Pelline is a redder then red lefty and he will not do as he tells everyone else to do. That is why he has no credibility. He is the Brian Williams of Nevada County.

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  38. Mary Ann Avatar
    Mary Ann

    20′ tall plants Don?
    That’s the same height as a phone pole and something I’d like to see. Is there a place I could see this?

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Maybe I missed it somewhere. I have yet to hear how the legalization will affect employees and job seekers. In CO. getting canned for MJ use is up 50%. Insurance Co.s sure are not going to drop their standards, most employers don’t want drug users in they employ,
    HELL.. even prescribed meds can cause you to get shown the door.
    Once legal, you can bet your bottom dollar insurance Co,’s will increase their demand for drug testing, and if you don’t your premiums will go up.(way up) Same goes for worker’s comp. Or will Obamacare fill the gap? ( I don’t think so.)
    How bout welfare? will EBT cover weed buys? Why should taxpayers pay for someone to get stoned instead of working? ( Just say’n.)

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  40. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “Concerning the “Bush lied” segment of this post can we agree that concerning WMD’s etc. etc. etc. (hey, at least it’s not a screed about Prescott Bush and the Nazis)”
    A not unreasonable way to look at all of it is through the lens of this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_Percent_Doctrine
    Strange things can happen when a bunch of people, hardly any of whom have exceptional abilities, sit in hidden meeting rooms for weeks at a time being fed mountains of documents and reports. The virtual world that they concoct may have little to do with reality.

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The slide shows from the Sheriffs office of actual grows in Nevada county have been presented multiples times Mary Ann. The most recent was at the BOS chambers during the election. I believe Dr. R and many others were there and I think they may still be on the website. There are some where a full size pickup is in the frame for perspective. ============= With regard to edibles they are on the verge of banning them in the CO legislature. Gummies and suckers are grossly inappropriate marketing to kids. — Paul E can you tell us what you believe the percentage of the Fed and State prison population is there for simple weed?

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  42. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Re: 20′ tall plants. Tall has little if nothing to do with pounds of bud or strength of the product. Some of the tallest cannabis strains produce weak, airy bud that have little market value. Gauging the “evilness’ of the weed by the length of the stem is like gauging sexual prowess by the same metric. If you are simply afraid of some plant (feed me Seymore), be plenty afraid of 20 feet tall. If you are afraid of the potential community collapse caused by reefer madness, educate yourself.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar

    RE Don Besse
    I don’t have the stats on that but here is a reasonable estimate as of 2010 on the costs of enforcement. 4.6 billion
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/marijuana-arrests-cost-racially-biased_n_3385756.html

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar

    Pardon my typo 3.6 Billion

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Mr. Paul, no worries. What’s a billion or trillion among comrades? That is just a rounding error in government speakese.

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  46. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Paul Emery 11Feb15 08:28 PM
    The cost of The War on the American People (AKA The War on Drugs) is difficult to know as it depends on what is included in those costs and who does the counting. One source I found, The Drug Policy Alliance puts it at $1 trillion over the last four decades. That’s $25 billion per year for programs that have clearly failed to achieve their apparent goals.

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Where will LIBS get their news now? Fake news is now gone.( Colbert and Stewart)
    Liewitness news has just caned their top fibber. I’m surprised Shakedown Al didn’t extort and arm twist to take the thrown. Now the heat is on.. Al’s days might be numbered since NBC has publicly taken a stance on liers in their employ. Al as plenty to account for.
    Place your bets. Will Rev. Al get the same “equal” treatment from NBC? or is it only white guys that can get fired,,, uh,,, laid off (for six months) for BS reporting and/or messing with facts.

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  48. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Huffpro guestametes based on soros foundation claims, really? The question was the number of actual residents of CA and Fed prisons there on weed only. Percentage will do. Going back to times before the shift in the status of weed in CA is just a bob and weave move. —– Joe Smith, I have met the grower of one of those giant farms, he would seriously dispute your view of his product. Going for a refer madness deflection is lame. The problem for you guys is that we have educated ourselves and that has galvanized the opposition to allowing kids access. So is it medicine or not? SAM is all about protecting kids and preventing another big tobacco that must market to kids go grow. What say you about making kid enticing candy with honey oil? IF we are going to loosen the rule for adults there must be a corresponding escalation of penalties for marketing to kids.

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar

    Don B
    You’re flailing around here. Any way you look at it it’s a shit load of taxpayers money enforcing an unenforceable law.

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