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George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 21 January 2015.]

Last night President Obama gave a well-delivered yet futile State of the Union speech.  It contained a list of shibboleths of the kind that the Democrats have long pilloried congressional Republicans during the last six years.  All of the president’s new “middle class economics” proposals targeted the tastes of true progressives and their low-information constituencies.  None have a snowball’s chance in hell of gaining traction in a Republican congress, especially since the President confirmed that last November’s historic election results have yet to reach the White House.

The main initiative that the president floated was another massive tax increase for his favorite populist target – America’s “rich” who are seen luxuriating in their filthy lucre ignominiously grabbed from the pockets of the poor and the middle class.  They must now be made to give a good portion of it back, and the federal government is just the agent to decide who pays and who gets how much of it.


The impact on the economy?  Not to worry, because all correct thinkers know that the efforts of businesses and individuals are not affected by how much of what they earn they get to keep.  Want proof? Just look at the booming 50s when the top tax rate on earnings was 90%, and even the 31% rate under President HW Bush.  But pay no attention to the actual revenues that these tax rates brought into the Treasury.  (more here)

However, it has been that no matter the tax policy in force, federal revenues have hovered in the 17 to 19% of GDP range for decades.  The only thing higher taxes affected was the state of our economy as measured by the likes of GDP growth, median earnings, consumer confidence, and unemployment.  And the acid test for this progressive proposition has always been ‘If tax rates don’t matter, why stop?  Let’s keep raising taxes until the government is fully funded.’  Now at this point, some little voice deep inside even the most devout liberal will call out, ‘Don’t do it, the Laffer curve really works.’ (more here)

Here in California there is another theory similar to the president’s on how local economies can be improved.  This local wisdom holds that a community’s economic fortunes depend not on economic factors – such as taxes, fees, regulations, codes, development costs, available labor pool – but on the hue of a community’s politics.  This wisdom teaches that conservative politics inhibit entrepreneurship, investing, and job creation, while liberal politics do exactly the opposite to induce economic growth.  But to sell such policies, even to a left-leaning electorate, they must first be coated with a pleasant shade of purple.

All this comes home to us in Nevada County as we search for ways to encourage our faltering local economy.  Our county’s leftwing pundits tell us we are doing poorly because we do not ‘play ball’ with Sacramento, but are instead ‘thumbing our noses’ at the state’s liberal power brokers by electing too many conservatives.  According to this view, businesses that consider relocating to Nevada County are sensitive to such political obstinacy, and will therefore choose to go elsewhere.  Many have even been driven as far as Nevada and Texas.

There’s more to be said about what we heard last night and what we are being told daily about how our earnings should be redistributed.  For now let me leave you with some words from Benjamin Franklin who said, “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”  If we listen carefully, we may already hear the trumpets of a new age approaching.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on georgerebane.com where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  President Obama’s speech was just the plain vanilla wrapper hiding some pretty dreadful details given that you are one of the country’s wealth producers.   On the economy the man did his best to run up the ‘Mission Accomplished!’  The ‘facts’ presented were positioned to fool all but the most skeptical who have been paying attention these past six years.  Associated Press – no conservative outfit by any measure – did a quick fact check.  Here are some findings.

Job growth still lags 1.7M full time workers from the start of the recession.  The job growth has been mostly in lower paying and part time jobs.  Tepid wage growth has been about 2% annually, compared to better managed recoveries that have typically seen 3.5 to 4% in recession recoveries.  Median household income is still 4.5% lower than when the recession began.

Obama’s promised free community college attendance is really an unfunded mandate on the states which have to pay a quarter of the tuitions.  There is no greater guarantee under this freebie that students will be making better decisions about studying job qualifying skills or going on to complete a four year degree.  But it does guarantee a new government bureaucracy and a $60B bill over ten years for taxpayers.  The stealth gotcha going along with this bamboozle is the gutting of the current 529 program that lets families set aside money for their kids and grandkids education.  The earnings from these funds have passed on to the kids tax-free, making it possible for families to self-fund the school costs of their offspring.  Obama intends to start taxing these earnings at the increased capital gains rate – talk about being pernicious or butt stupid, take your pick. (more here and here)

And Obama proposes to increase the death tax to 60% and change the cost basis of inherited assets to the original value paid by the deceased.  Now these are added taxes on accrued wealth on which taxes have already been paid.  The harm that such a government wealth grab will do, not only to beneficiaries, but to earners who are working to assemble an estate for their progeny. (more here)

Then we have the attempt to cover up a disastrous foreign policy by claiming that the abject failures in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan (I could go on) have been successes.  We have screwed over our allies and ignored advances of militant Islam on three continents.  The Mission Accomplished banner should now read ‘Mission Amended’ as we plan to send ever more military into the fray in the attempt to recover what we already won with great sacrifice and treasure.  (Can anyone name just ONE foreign policy accomplishment of Hillary Clinton that would justify her using ‘Secretary of State’ on her resume?)

Finally, the Big Lie about climate change and “hottest years on record” was unbelievable.  Controllable AGW is still the biggest single global lie being swallowed by the carelessly ignorant and the terminally stupid.  Holman Jenkins summarizes the latest here.

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102 responses to “More Pabulum for the Devoutly Ignorant”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    Gregory@11:51AM how about Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer on AGW:
    Data has been manipulated, honest scientific debate has been stifled, educational institutions have been turned into brain-washing centers for the cause’
    Happer: Observational data show clearly that the predictions of unacceptable warming by more carbon dioxide are wrong…There is no observational support for the theoretically dubious claim that ‘more carbon dioxide will cause unacceptable global warming, or more extreme weather’
    ‘Data has been manipulated, honest scientific debate has been stifled, educational institutions have been turned into brain-washing centers for the cause, and trusting citizens have been misled by much of the mass media’
    ‘And what is the great danger that this noble cause purports to save us from? Human emissions of carbon dioxide, a transparent, odorless, non-toxic gas, essential for plant growth and contained at about 40,000 parts per million (ppm) in our own breaths. Carbon dioxide has been mercilessly demonized as ‘carbon pollution’, when in fact it is a benefit to the planet. Agricultural production has increased substantially and the Earth is greener today with the 400 ppm current levels of carbon dioxide than it was with preindustrial levels of about 280 ppm. And two or three times higher levels would be even better.’

    Read the full article HERE.

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar

    Gregory@11:51AM,
    I was just trying to show Jeff there is a path from being a global warmer to a rational position based on science. It may have been a waste of time, but thought is was worth a try.

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    I was just trying to show Jeff there is a path from being a global warmer to a rational position based on science. It may have been a waste of time, but thought is was worth a try.
    As valuable a use of your time as showing the dog a card trick….he just isn’t going to get it either.

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  4. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Sing, Jeff, sing!
    “Oink oink, oink oink”
    It’s unclear if a progressing glacier threatening to repolish Devil’s Postpile’s crown would convince Jeff. For everyone else, we’ll have to wait for that Mean Mother Earth to respond to stimuli. Will GCR/clouds dominate, or will CO2? I’ve an informed opinion, so do others, the unwashed masses of all sides mostly say “hooray for our side”.
    Jeff, you definitely belong in the unwashed masses side on this one. Pure knee jerk reactionary politics, as believing in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming really is the Emperor Norton set of ‘Frisco values Jeff stands for.

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Russ 12:08, yes, professors of physics (especially those with an endowed chair at a major university) have more credibility than carpenters on matters of physics, and I’ve been aware of Happer for several years.
    Perhaps Jeff will chime in to tell us why Happer doesn’t know as much science as Jeff does.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    So George with Romney joining those who believe Global Warming is real and somewhat caused by man qualify his as being one of the “Devoutly Ignorant”?

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The Iranians have another winning week, 0 trying to shield them from sanctions, their surrogates take yemen from 0’s foreign policy wins sheet (ya I know, imaginary though it may be) and the chief prosecutor in argentina who was hours away from fingering iran in the jewish community center bombing shoots himself but manages to do it without gunpowder residue on his hands. Even the agentine prez calls it a suicide that’s not a suicide. Then of course there is the military pact with Russia and 0 snubs the Israeli pm. Will 0 get the Iranian peace prize the day they demonstrate their nuke publicly?

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  8. Russ Steele Avatar

    Romney and global warming.
    He was an anthropogenic global warmer when he was the Governor of a very liberal state, it was the right position in his social circles.
    When he ran the last presidential election, his position was that the science is not settled yet. He professed to be keeping an open mind. Political expediency?
    Then after he lost, he went back to being an anthropogenic warmer, it was the right thing to profess in his social circles.
    This would indicate to me his position was more politics than science. So, what does he really believe? Does he have an appreciation for science, or is he like so many who avoided the study of science at the university level, scientifically challenged? If he has an appreciation of science and some training in science, does he understand the science of climate change? If he lacks understanding, where does he get his information?
    There are many RINOs who are warmers, including Lamar Alexander, (R – TN), Kelly Ayotte, (R – NH), Susan Collins, (R – ME), Lindsey Graham, (R – SC). I guess we can include Mitt in this group.
    I am not going to vote for a President that is scientifically challenged if their are other options open, and it does not look like Romney makes the current cut.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 106pm – We all have subject areas in which we are ignorant. Matters of climate change, especially where he believes that humans 1) can, and 2) possess the know-how to influence climate change at a useful pace and in a desired direction/magnitude, are indeed in Romney’s domain of ignorance. And to the extent that he strongly believes in such human intervention without consulting and/or understanding the science puts him into the category of devout ignorance.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar

    Do you include his support of raising the minimum wage and his support of the TPP as other examples of his devout ignorance?

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar

    There seems to be lots of Devoutly Ignorant Republicans out there when it comes to global warming. Here’s Christies view on the matter.
    “When you have over 90 percent of the world’s scientists who have studied this stating that climate change is occurring and that humans play a contributing role it’s time to defer to the experts.”
    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/gov_christie_admits_climate_ch.html

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 223pm+ – You confound two separate questions – support of policies, and their being examples of Romney’s ‘devout ignorance’. I support neither the minimum wage nor the TPP (of what I have been led to understand). Romney is a good man, and will satisfy me more than any potential Dem candidate to date, but I go with RussS’ 201pm and will keep my options open for fresher qualified candidates.
    Gov Christie is dead wrong on his stats on consensus, and even more wrong on consensus being the validating principle of science.

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    I think things just got a little more combustible in the mideast!
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102292477

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Have to ask what other Christie policies PE agrees with? Well since you want to ignore the whole 0’s iran policy fail and its implications for lots of peoples life spans I will play the global warming game. How do you explain the views of say the founder of green peace that are at odds with christies so called 90%ers and the naturally occurring ice / heat cycles that happened when we were not around? Please to not refer to the now discredited modeling that was rigged to achieve a stated goal.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 455pm – Don, that is an abjectly unfair question. With it you drive PaulE into the Consensus Corner that scientists don’t recognize, but is the only remaining safe haven of agenda driven politicians and the lay naïfs.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy crap. The King of Saudia Arabia just kicked the bucket, bought the farm, croacked, his parking meter has expired, long time no come see. The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out.
    The last things he saw was a the latest price of crude and the picture I sent him of BubbaBubba. The latter drove the nail in the coffin.

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like the Republicans in the Senate have had enough of the “regular order” on the XL Pipeline vote. The dems have flooded the bill with a gazillion BS amendments in order to bog it down for months. McConnell is now forcing a vote to table each one. I knew the dems would do this since Harry Reid never let a bill get to this point for six years. Anyway, I think we may see a nuclear option from the R’s. As far as I can tell, it may be the best way to proceed. The dems are such sneaky a^^holes.

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The King saw a babe driving a car and it put him over the top.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar

    What happened to all the property rights yahoos on the XL Pipeline takings of private property for the benefit of foreign corporations? The taking of private property in this fiasco is massive and supported by the very ilk that claim to be protectors of our rights. What a joke.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar

    Here is some background from Forbes:
    “On Wednesday, a Nebraska judge struck down a state law that would have allowed TransCanada TRP +1.92% to use the power of eminent domain to seize private land to help construct a short 300-mile segment of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline between Cushing and Steele City, Nebraska………The judge ruled that the law violated the state constitution, and she issued an injunction blocking the Governor’s office from taking any action on the Governor’s January 2013 approval of the Keystone XL Pipeline route, which would include allowing land to be acquired through eminent domain (Court Documents).”
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/02/24/foreign-company-tries-to-seize-u-s-land-for-keystone-pipeline/

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  21. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Paul 11:23. I have to agree with you on this one. Been on the receiving end of eminent domain and it is a pretty tough nut to swallow. I got a letter from gov Reagan asking me to basically “take one for the team”. This was almost a year AFTER the state condemned my property for a reservoir. If Canada wants to run a pipe across America, they better do some fancy zigging and zagging to avoid seizing private property.

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  22. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Paul: Is there difference between the pipeline and the railroads? I did not read the article yet, but the local government taking title to the property or just an easement? I agree that “takings” should be rare, but this pipeline does have the incidence of a public improvement/infrastructure.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 January 2015 at 11:23 PM
    Now at the very end of the argument Paul Emery discovers the concept of property rights. Good to see.
    Any comments on the questionable takings associated with “Uncle Jerrys Choo Choo to Nowhere”?

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    And Paul Emery’s efforts to deny my property rights in the Glenbrook Basin so his question comes from BS.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1123pm – I was not aware that ‘foreign’ companies could exercise the takings clause. It is always our government(s) that can do that, and then they have to show some overriding public benefit. That has not always worked out – New London comes to mind. But in this case is not the argument for Keystone similar to that for, say, the interstate highway system which has required the condemnation of millions of acres of private lands? The oil destined for Louisiana and other refineries is supposed to be in the national interest.
    BTW, I hope you’re not having a relapse into the ‘all or none’ syndrome that has ailed you in the past. Conservetarians don’t oppose all condemnations of private lands. On a case by case basis some are justified.

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  26. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Been watching a 24″ gasoline pipeline installed nearby. They dig a ditch, install the pipe and cover it up. Plants return to hide any evidence thereof. Not exactly an RR right-of-way or an Interstate highway, is it?

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    LarryW 1010am – Given the thousands of miles of America’s oil pipelines, when was the last time that anyone heard of an accident that caused substantive and/or longlasting damage to the environment? We can ask the same question about transporting oil by rail.
    There are no legitimate environmental and/or property rights concerns about the proposed Keystone XL, only another implementation of Agenda21 objectives by the America Last crowd.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    what is the overriding public interest of the Keystone Pipeline that justifies a government taking?

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    George,
    You might want to mention Kelo vs. New London. While I consider it a horrible decision (in a long line of what I consider bad supreme court decisions) the “public interest” is pretty much anything that the government says will generate revenue makes property a legitimate target for confiscation!

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1058am – I am told it is adding on to the country’s oil transport infrastructure and economic development – jobs building the pipeline, and jobs at the refineries and loading ports.
    fish 1110am – I did mention Kelo v New London in my 853am. And I do agree that government has become more rapacious in recent decades in its gratuitous takings of private property. I consider it part of the overall big government disease that America is suffering from that is promoted by our left-leaning and information-free neighbors. Hard to think of a solution that doesn’t include some version of the Great Divide.

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  31. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 23 January 2015 at 11:20 AM
    Didn’t see it. Apparently neither did Paul.

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar

    RE George 10:28
    Pipeline spills? Here you go s
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
    [Paul, that was cute. Don’t cut and paste into these comments a novel when providing an URL would do. I presume the URL above would have been sufficient. gjr]

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    You forgot all the people killed in auto accidents. What the heck?

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  34. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1155am – That long list is fairly comprehensive and does not limit itself to modern crude oil pipelines. Is that list claimed to be relevant to permit building the last 300 miles of Keystone XL?
    And we haven’t even started talking about where this Canadian crude will wind up if it does not pass through/to the United States.

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  35. George Boardman Avatar

    There’s no point in getting excited about the State of the Union address because it’s all theater. Obama knows that none of his major proposals will see the light of day; he’s just playing to his base.
    Sensible Republicans know that nothing they propose will become law unless they can convince some Democrats to help them override a veto. That means, among other things, that none of the cherished goals of the teabaggers will be realized. Heck, they couldn’t get their anti-abortion bill out of the House yesterday.
    Both sides are going to spend the next two years posturing for the next Presidential election, when either Jeb or Mitt will take on Hillary. Who do you like in that race?

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 140pm – Your admonition was taken care of in the first paragraph of my post. The excitement you sense here is the most recent revelation and confirmation of the country’s socialist agenda talking points that Team Obama wants the country (in addition to his base) to focus on between now and Nov 2016. And when these issues get opened up again, the readers here debate them on their own merits as public policy, and not as something that Obama will be able to thread through a Republican congress.
    However, politics is a strange business, and if you have some ideas on how Obama may just pull one or two of those chestnuts out of the fire, everyone is all ears, er, eyes 😉

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    GeorgeB missed the election in November it appears. I am a fan of the House because it represents to “people” at a closer level and those mid-terms make or break a party hold. I see he also uses a derisive sexual term to describe the Tea Party. Too bad, many members are his mama’s age. Pretty disrespectful.
    Anyway, the SOTU was theater, sure, but it let the people see Obama and his narcissism up close and personal as well as his goofy, bio-polar philosophy.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    As for the XL pipeline, only four more Dems are needed to be veto proof.
    There are plenty of lefty unions that will DO that arm twisting ” Vote yes, or else!”
    “O” sure must love those Muslim oil states, since that’s where we are importing it from.
    I say buy the same amount from Canada and MEX. ( you know,, our good friends?)
    That’s a lot less supertankers making the trip ( So oil tanker owners greasing the LIBS palms? Looks like it)

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  39. Russ Steele Avatar

    Marco Rubio: I Don’t Believe Humans Are Causing Climate Change.
    Well at least one of the Republican Candidates understands the climate change science. More to come. I heard today that Sarah Palin is considering getting into the race, she is not a warmer.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Obama has now gored my ox. I was penniless and set up little accounts of the girls with loose change. Cost 5 bucks to open a free child savings account (UTMA) at the old Placer Savings. When the change grew big enough, I moved the money to 529s where I could not touch it. I would add 50 bucks to it, even cutting myself short. Put half my tax returns (when I became employable) in the College Savings 529 plan. I sold a car and put it all in their college savings account. Done that for years, starting with loose change.
    We all know higher education is expensive and kids can’t even buy a house or eat out now and then cause they are loaded down with the crushing burden of debt….college loan debt. Evil corroding debt that mortgages one’s future.
    There is still some left in the 529s which is transferable to any relative or grandkids. Grows tax free. But, nooooooooooo! Big Half White Father in Washington wants to tax the shit out of 529 college savings plans when withdrawn for higher education expenses such as room. and board, books, tuition. .
    He is changing the rules to cornhole the little guy like me because he thinks (feels) those that put away for their kids’ college are rich and have an advantage over the po folk.My ox just got gored. 28% cap gains tax, on withdraws.
    Watch out kiddies. I have been saying since the Community Organizer Shake Down Artist got elected he will be a gunnin’ after your 401k, IRA, Roth, or life savings account if he thinks it is too big. What a Marxist poopie head.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. George Boardman has a point. The SOTU speech as the lowest viewed SOTU since Neilsen was formed. Even beat out Slick Willie’s 2000 monologue. Don’t know why I let him get to me. Maybe cause I perfer to be asked first before being screwed without K-Y jelly.
    https://www.facebook.com/USAPatriots/photos/pb.133154313381817.-2207520000.1422068500./888161571214417/?type=3&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/USAPatriots/photos/pb.133154313381817.-2207520000.1422068925./890954440935130/?type=3&theater

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “There seems to be lots of Devoutly Ignorant Republicans out there when it comes to global warming.” says Paul, quoting the second of two (that’s lots?) Republican governors of Democratic states.
    Paul, just because Democrats get their science cues from their politicians doesn’t mean people who aren’t Democrats do the same. If I was a liberal GOP governor of a state filled with Jeff Pellines and Grant Whores, no solid philosophical base and desperate for reelection, I also might click my heels together three times while reciting a prayer for deliverance from CO2.
    Progressives who continue to spout the CO2 catastrophic AGW party line will be the ones looking like flat earthers; the science is like Oakland… there’s no there, there.

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  43. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Regarding oil pipelines and eminent domain, I’d say an oil pipeline does a lot more public good than a shopping center parking lot, for which eminent domain has been used to take people’s homes. A true misuse of eminent domain
    What happens when a pipeline is built? Oil isn’t transported by ship, train or truck when there is a pipeline with spare capacity. That is a public good. And while pipelines aren’t accident free, you probably won’t find a town incinerated from a pipeline accident as you will with train transport (47 died not long ago in Quebec from just such a thing) and the owners of the pipeline are on the hook for damages and cleanup.
    Then there’s the property taxes levied on the privately owned pipeline.
    Face it, Paul, the pipeline isn’t being fought because of a newfound respect for Eminent Domain by Democrats, it’s purely because of long standing politics. Global warming, the Koch’s, it’s icky and sticky and smelly.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Even though eminent domain rights are in the Constitution I believe it should only be used for true public projects and the Kelo decision was a travesty that still needs fixing. But as A supervisor I did vote for a sliver of right of way to be taken for a road safety improvement. I did it begrudgingly but I had determined the “public” was benefited more than the sliver took. Anyway, the pipeline ROW will be safer and less transparent to the senses than perhaps a train ROW with all the noise and setbacks.

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Todd, I’d just as soon not have governments get into the business of building pipelines, whether they be for heavy crude or natural gas for home and business consumption. It’s a conveyance right of way that is being discussed and the Keystone pipeline owners would be paying a pretty penny for the rights.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Feed the Beast! Save the planet, save Bambi. Stop Global Frying. feed the Beast!
    http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_27387446/california-considering-plan-replace-gas-tax-charge-per

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  47. L Avatar
    L

    Paul, you do realize that the US transports and consumes ca. 18,000,000 bls of petro per day? Multiply by 365, then by however many years the Wiki covered. Then go back, eliminate the LNG part of the report and come back with what percentage of our precious bodily fluids are being lost thru accidents.
    Or just stop driving, flying, heating and cooking. Thanx, L

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar

    BTW Obama continues to surge in the polls. He might even end up being a popular President. Anyone want to compare his polls with Bush Jr at this stage in the Presidency. On this poll he’s up to the highest point in two years.
    http://pollingreport.com/obama_job1.htm
    also this one
    http://pollingreport.com/obama_job2.htm

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  49. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul, that is great news indeed. Thank you for sharing.

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