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George Rebane

LakeviewORTraveling with some friends, we just returned from a visit to Lakeview – at 4,798 feet ‘The Tallest Town in Oregon’.  Lakeview sits at the north end of Goose Lake, a huge drainage basin shared by California and Oregon.  It also advertises itself as the ‘Gateway to the Oregon Outback’ which is the sparsely populated high desert of the state’s eastern region.  The town of about 2,200 has definitely seen better days.  And from talking to the locals, the worst is yet to come.  What happened?

During our stay we had a chance to talk to owners of three businesses.  Each had lived there for at least twenty years, and they told us a story of what happens when a town decides to buy into an imported glory road.  Historically Lakeview grew as the seat of Lake County and the commercial center for ranching and timber enterprises in southern Oregon, in later years adding a dollop of tourism that took advantage of the nearby mountains for camping, skiing, and some awesome hang gliding.

Then in the 1990s came some new folks with slick talk of smart growth, things natural, and sustainability.  They pitched the community on getting some OPM (other people’s money) to develop natural sources of wind, solar, and geothermal energy.  In the future, business and living would be controlled as they are in the big cities.  New zoning laws were passed, and strict business ordinances put in place.  With the help of a couple of big name foundations and government grants things were going to get organized – things were going to become progressive as reflected in the town’s new ‘mission statement’  

The mission of the Town of Lakeview is to provide citizens with a safe, family-oriented community while promoting sustainable development of our human, economic and natural resources. We progressively seek a positive future while honoring our heritage.

Well, things didn’t work out as the central planners had it figured.  The projects were delayed, the monies were late, some stuff had been overlooked, and when it came right down to it, people had other ideas which they now had a hard time implementing because of all the new rules and ordnances and codes and … .  Since they could no longer implement their own plans – i.e. continue the free and self-reliant lifestyle that drew and kept them there – people started leaving Lakeview.  Today the town is eerily empty with boarded up stores and empty commercial buildings, as its population has declined for the last twenty years.

There is a lot more to the story of Lakeview as another place that has suffered from progressive blight, and we’ll add to this piece as relevant data warrants.  But what I want to point out with this report is that such blight has quietly spread pretty much nationwide, most certainly since 2009 when we started getting all those new rules and recovery programs for the Great Recession.  It is charitably clear that no one from Washington has looked at how rural counties have taken the brunt of the ‘new thinking’ that is being imposed bit by piece on our less populated regions.  In Lakeview people know about Agenda21 (they told us so) because they are living it every day.  The real plan for Lakeview is for it to revert to its ‘natural state’ before people arrived.

As reported here for some years, California’s rural counties are destined for the same future as Lake County.  We see it right here in Nevada County which has a lot more to offer residents than Lake County, Oregon.  Of course, California imposes on us its own unique and widely infamous brand of insanity to impede growth, economic development, public use of public and private lands, and on and on.  Our own imported progressives are very active in creating and sustaining an environment in these foothills which stifles any vestige of human activity that is not according to the outlined objectives of Agenda21.

Such strategy notwithstanding, we in Nevada County divert ourselves periodically with workshops and meetings that address the holy grail of economic growth.  And we invite speakers from faraway places to tell us how they were able or are still trying to promote such growth.  What we seem to miss is that these hoped for experts come from places that look nothing like our county and community.  Perhaps we should hold more useful gatherings and hear the experiences of people from places like Lake County.  I bet that each of them have a woulda/coulda/shoulda tale to tell that would really resonate with what we have been going through, and maybe even shine a light on some yet-to-be-discovered dark corners where there be tigers waiting for us.

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117 responses to “The Sad Tale of Lakeview, OR”

  1. RL Crabb Avatar

    Maybe they should change the name to Goosed Lake.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    When I read that the State Legislature and Governor exempted themselves from CEQA for the “bullet train” I came to realize we have a hopeless situation here. Forcing every little attempted business through the maze of rules (general plans and zoning) and fees and then telling us all go screw yourselves we are exempt shows the real problem. Even a little mine in North San Juan can’t get a break but if you want to spemd a 100 billion on a train to nowhere, have at it.
    I really think that unless people stop trying to be “something” for “everything” in public office or even NGO’s then we are screwed. The Spotted Owl was the beginning and now it is the Smelt and soon the Weasel. Frogs and salamander’s are going to be what is left in the boonies and that fits the desires and goals of the leftwing socialist. Herd the folks into highrise condos in the urban areas and leave the rest alone. Easier to control those feisty individualists.

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  3. Russ Steele Avatar

    Lakeview’s decline started in the 1990s when the radical greens used unscientifically imagined threats to the western spotted owl to eliminate logging. The spotted owl was put on the endangered and threatened species list, resulting the curtailment of logging through out the Pacific Northwest and northern California, primarily in old forests with large trees, the owl’s preferred habitat. However, reality has caught up with the green radicals after two and half decades. It was not the loggers that caused the decline in the spotted owl, but an unforeseen player, the eastern barred owl.
    According to the National Park Service
    After listing, it was predicted that reducing habitat loss, primarily on federal lands, would eliminate the threat of extinction and put the northern spotted owl on the road to recovery. However, after nearly two and a half decades of protection under the Endangered Species Act, the spotted owl is not showing signs of recovery and, in fact, its situation has worsened. This is due to the arrival of an unforeseen player on the scene, the barred owl.
    From 1990 to 1995, four of Lakeview’s five sawmills were forced to close, eliminating over 100 good paying jobs. By 1996, another mill in Lake County closed, eliminating 25 more jobs. The remaining mill was forced to become a small log processing plant.
    The lumber mills are gone, the jobs are gone and the Forest Service is shooting the barred owls to preserve the spotted owl from extinction. Shooting the barred owls in the first place could have saved the lumbering industry through out the Pacific Northwest and in Lakeview.
    Now that the real threat to the spotted owl is known, the greens are not willing to reverse the logging decision. Why? It was never about saving the spotted owl, it was about driving the loggers and timber harvesters out of the forest, to preserve it for future generations of the 1%ers to enjoy. It was a precursor to Agenda 21, which was published in 1992.

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  4. JeffPelline Avatar
    JeffPelline

    Gee, who needs Lake Tahoe when you have Goose Lake! LOL.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Jeffy.. If we wanted your opinion, we would slum to your blog.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Yup,, if you want to destroy a thriving town, just add Liberalism.

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  7. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    Last night we watched Atlas Shrugged III. It pretty much covers what we’re seeing from the beginning to the conclusion. Why people were continually migrating round the earth to escape the economic rule by the parasites.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    All those silver spooners like Pelline have wrecked Tahoe. Now on to others!

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  9. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “Today the town is eerily empty with boarded up stores and empty commercial buildings, as its population has declined for the last twenty years.”
    Mission accomplished!
    I’ve been through there – about 8 years ago. It was on the decline even then. The logging was drying up and the ranchers were complaining about regs destroying the viability of their livelihoods.
    You too, can have onerous regulations waved if you just make sure to hire lots of union labor and make sure a certain CA senator’s husband gets the major contract. What is the good Mr Nader’s opinion of the CA build-it train? He seems to be very quiet about it. He is such a good boy and knows when to shut his trap.

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  10. JeffPelline Avatar
    JeffPelline

    Walt and Todd,
    I think you’re well suited for a swim in Goose Lake. Maybe you could do “spoons.” ROFLOL.

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  11. Walt Avatar

    I’d tell you to go jump in the lake Jeffy, but then it would become a superfund site.
    Progressive doesn’t wash off.

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    You would think the truckee troll would lay low after his catastrophe in failing to proof read his posts in liberal lament land today. He wants the union brunt to the ground for missing a comma! Should we expect an apology from lefty jeffy? Can we say double standards lefty jeffy? That double standard thing confirms that lefty jeffy is conforming to the progressive thinkers handbook! LOL!! WALT 518 🙂

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    We know when Pelline’s blog is really slow when he comes here. Or when “Windy” starts tapping. ROFLOL (whatever that means)Anyway, silver spooners like Pelline just ruin things. Look out Goose Lake!

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    ROFLOL rolling on the floor laughing out loud, just what we all (especially current and former Union staff!) did today over the massive editorial fail at lefty jeffys liberal lament land. PS burnt not brunt, guess I would qualify as proof reader for the liberal lament land too! ROFOLOL Everyone I told about it had a good belly laugh too!

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Administrivia – The topic of this post is a serious matter that bears on Nevada County. I cannot think of a less relevant diversion to insert here (or anywhere else for that matter) than a thread discussing Pelline’s blog. Please be advised.

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  16. JeffPelline Avatar
    JeffPelline

    I forgot. I’m not old enough to comment here. ROFLOL.

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  17. Russ Steele Avatar

    There are multiple parallels between Lake County and Nevada County. While we have a larger population, a large portion of the population in both Counties is over 65+. Lake County 22.7% are 65 or older. Nevada County 22.5% are over 65 or older. Young people graduate and go away to school, to never to return. There are no jobs for them to return for. The primary employer is government. Former economic engines were forest harvesting. There are active groups of progressive organizations in both counties that are feeding at the government trough, all-promoting sustainability and stealth implementation of Agenda 21.
    With a much smaller population, Lake County is showing the early impacts of progressive meddling with the social and economic vitality of the community. Since Nevada County has a large more diverse economic base and large population base the impacts are muted, but are having an impact. Given enough time, the impact will become more significant. We need to me more diligent in recognizing these negative progressive impacts.

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  18. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Thank you George. Thoughtful article.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    I forgot. I’m not old enough to comment here. ROFLOL.
    Posted by: JeffPelline | 17 January 2015 at 09:51 PM

    Well not in calendar years.
    jeffy a man of your…..carriage…..really ages in dog years!
    Your time might be more properly spent shopping for that economy car sized casket for the eventuality of your sour black heart finally deciding that it’s had enough and quitting mid tick. No need to waste precious family time here where everyone thinks you a fool and cares not for your opinion!

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  20. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Just wondering, George… is there a group of 501c3 rentseekers covering the Lakeview area that has “Business Council” in their name?

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 1228pm – Not aware of a so-named 501c3, but would not bet against an equivalently purposed and disguised non-profit that has been in attendance during the town’s slow demise to its ‘natural state’.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 18 January 2015 at 12:28 PM
    It would seem so!
    From the SBC webpage:
    The Sierra Business Council:
    “Building a Better Sierra Nevada”
    Sierra Business Council fosters thriving communities in the Sierra Nevada region through “on the ground” local projects that promote, develop and amplify the area’s social, environmental and economic capital.

    From the Central Oregon Intergovernmental Council:
    “To provide education, retraining and economic development services to positively affect regional employment, individual lives, the business community and local government”
    Very similar blather!

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  23. Russ Steele Avatar

    Gregory@12:28
    The SBC of Lake County is the Lakeview County Resources Initiative. It a private and government grant funded organization. The 2011 Annual Report is here:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/94726875/2011-Annual-Report1
    I could not find any mention of 501(c)3.

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  24. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    I also drove through Lakeview this week. I did not spend any time there but did stop to enjoy the “geyser” just north of town and buy some gas. I noticed the mills but did not see much in the way of forests so I googled the area where I saw large swaths of clear-cut areas to the northwest indicating that the area is being actively managed and logged.
    The area lies within the Basin and Range Province which is semi-arid. Forests and crops are not going to be as productive in Lakeview as they are along the I-5 corridor in Oregon due to rainfall, temperature and soil conditions. Mechanized logging and mechanized ag means fewer employees needed. How sustainable were the logging practices in the Lakeview area? It is not heavily forested. How long do trees take to mature to a good merchantable size in this region? Too long? Is that why they are reduced to milling small logs?
    There is a new geothermal power plant outside of Paisley. There is also a geothermally-heated commercial greenhouse near the “geyser”. But Lakeview is just not going to become a boom town unless something happens to make it explode.
    After WWII a number of things happened that led to growing economies along the left coast. Now that the latest “Great Build Out” of California has happened, and the Baby Boom generation is retiring, small mill towns that might have seen economic expansion in the 50s, 60s, and 70s are seeing a contraction.
    If you went to Lakeview, chances are you went to Susanville, or Alturas. Susanville real estate prices are down and there have been empty store fronts in the uptown area for years thanks to Walmart and the strip sprawl nearby. Even the new courthouse went down to the Walmart end of town. But, hey, they have three prisons, a military base, and a casino in the region.
    Alturas also looked pretty dead when I drove through. Who is to blame for the economic condition of that town?
    I am not sure what George or Russ imagine Lakeview would look like if it was part of the imaginary Great State of Jefferson. Are “zero” regulations going to turn that place into some kind of Tea Party Nirvana? The land can only support a certain number of cattle, a certain amount of logging, a certain amount of grass crops. Progressive conspiracy – wow, really?

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Russ Steele | 18 January 2015 at 12:58 PM
    It think your LCRI is a closer “cousin” to the SBC than my earlier guess.
    Good catch Russ!

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  26. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    I think that Brad C.’s post at 1:39 carries a lot of truth and is a reasonable counterargument for defining an economic reality.
    I would have to ask him, that given a limited carrying capacity for the state (or country), what strikes him as a reasonable rate of immigration from foreign countries? Extra bonus points for considering the difference in birth rate between cultures.

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Alturas also looked pretty dead when I drove through. Who is to blame for the economic condition of that town?
    Don’t know! Probably a combination of factors. What is fairly certain is that Alturas, Lakeview, Susanville etc. aren’t likely to reinvent themselves under the regulatory regime they would be forced to confront going forward. If you have a counter example I’m all ears though!
    I am not sure what George or Russ imagine Lakeview would look like if it was part of the imaginary Great State of Jefferson. Are “zero” regulations going to turn that place into some kind of Tea Party Nirvana? The land can only support a certain number of cattle, a certain amount of logging, a certain amount of grass crops. Progressive conspiracy – wow, really?
    You could cite Hong Kong as an example of an area with precious few natural resources that has managed to thrive economically. I’m not familiar with the environmental conditions in and around HK but if they are “bad” I’m sure someone will gleefully post a link pointing out how horrid they are. I’m generally the least regulatorily inclined guy who posts here on a regular basis and I’m not for “zero regulation”. You guys seem to think that because the truckload of regulations imposed in the 60’s and 70’s that made a positive difference (with the additional associated economic costs) all we need to fix things is to keep regulating……moar, moar, moar!
    From our hosts favorite (I assume) political philosopher:
    “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
    ― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    BradC 139pm – Where there were stores, there are now boarded-up store fronts; where there were businesses, there are now empty commercial buildings; where there were wealth creating jobs, there are now wealth consuming jobs; where there were fewer regulations and restrictions on private enterprise, there are now more of such; and where there were more people, there are now fewer people.
    fish 208pm – Yes, Bastiat is in the pantheon of my favorite political philosophers and economists. The passage that you quoted has been countlessly confirmed by progressives in these pages. Besides suffering from faulty logic, they show themselves as binary thinkers at every opportunity – nuance appears beyond their grasp.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BradC, clearcuts were banned many years ago so I am curious as to their location. Also, the Northern Spotted Owl and Clinton destroyed the logging industry in the Northwest of which this area is a part. So pinpoint that location would you pleas?

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  30. anthony kropotkin Avatar
    anthony kropotkin

    http://sierraforest.org
    Take a look at the map. Clearcuts are not ‘banned’.

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  31. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    This whole thread and original post is totally ridiculous. Nevada County, even the western side, has nothing in common to this region of Oregon, except to a retiree. Our region is ideally situated between Sacramento (the state capitol) and Lake Tahoe. Sacramento is becoming more like San Francisco, and Lake Tahoe already was. The San Francisco values are infiltrating our region! In fact, our region wouldn’t be what it is without
    San Francisco values (Osborn and Woods in Nevada City or Charlie Litton in Grass Valley, for example). And this blog — the “voice of the diminishing” will be canonized (along with its younger political “hangers on” — i.e., fish AKA David Larsen of Carmichael and Barry Pruett) in a Museum. Good eats for “fish” is IHOP! ROFLOL.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Tick tock jeffy….tick tock!
    How did the casket shopping go….a fun filled family outing?
    [Mr fish, this kind of crap is really not necessary. Jeff Pelline is his own worst enemy with people who can think, and he does that every time he delivers some copy that attempts to address a serious issue. He cannot, and that alone seals his fate in the debate. Taking cheap swings at him does nothing but weaken the substantive opposition to what he and his promote in our community. Please! gjr]

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  33. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “This whole thread and original post is totally ridiculous.”
    Oh, maybe. Sturgeon’s Law is pretty powerful, so I wouldn’t get my knickers in a twist.
    It seems to me that the primary problem is one shared with most outlying areas. We’ve evolved a system, largely with government help, that has made it difficult to begin and grow small businesses. Areas away from the center of gravity find it hard to attract or generate firms generally, and the smaller ones find it hard to bear the increasingly strict overhead that government (with all good intentions) has applied.
    It’s a lot harder to run a small manufacturing business than it used to be.
    It’s a bummer that the video equipment biz is dying, but that’s another issue really. Technology cycles can be pretty brutal.

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    The San Francisco values are infiltrating our region!
    You trot these “values” out a lot jeffy. Were you ever going to elaborate as to just what they are?

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    re fish 623pm – excellent question! Going on eight years, no one from the Left has ever had the guts to spell out any tenets of their ideology. They instinctively know that if they ever tried – here on local blogs or on the national level – they would be pilloried. Even the high 2-digit types understand the absolute absurdity of the social policies that such opently expressed tenets would promote. And I would even add that most people of the progressive mien do not have the wherewithal to express a structured belief system that reaches above the gratuitous anecdotal level of discourse.

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Pelline just fails to understand simple things. San Francisco valeus? What is that? This is Nevada County and it has its own “values” and Pelline just doesn’t fit into those values. Hard workers, trustworthy people, people that seal a deal with a jandshake, folks that like their religion and practice it as best they can. All these traditional, conservative wholesome American “values” are not understood by the Marin County transplant.
    I truly feel sorry for Pelline. Moving here and not fitting into this wonderful place must be quite traumatic. Barry Pruett and his family seem to have done it. George Rebane and many of the posters here appreciate the privledge of living in this place of beauty and good people. San Francisco values. Well, let’s see. Pelline’s good friend Jim Firth from San Francisco. Many of the 501 C3 leech organizations that espouse ECO are from the Bay Area. San Francisco is a 80% democrat stronghold where here we are conservative and vote that way. I suspect Pelline is getting “cabin fever” there in Nevada City and may be a little delusional.
    The Sierra communities have been devastated by the ECO groups from the Bay Area. Maybe that is what Pelline means when he talks about “San Francisco values”? Maybe it means, devastation to the rural communities of America, and make them into urbam blights? I think he may not be able to roll on the floor and get up. To many “hot pockets”?

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  37. RL Crabb Avatar

    The last time I visited that particular corner of California was 25 years ago, and it was dying then. Considering its location in proximity to the civilized world, it might as well be on Mars. You really have to have a desire to “get away from it all” to want to live there.

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 18 January 2015 at 06:35 PM
    I don’t know George…..most of the progressives/admitted leftists I know, their belief system is little more than government uber alles coupled with a generous dollop of “Rules for thee but not for me”! Our little jeffy seems to have something very specific in mind when he raises the notion of “San Francisco Values” I was just curious if we were ever going to be made privy to just what these are?

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  39. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 647pm – Agreed, and many times over. My call for their tenets is longstanding and persistent. I will not excuse them with the observation that “their belief system is little more than government uber alles coupled with a generous dollop of …”. I want to see him specify those “San Franciso Values” that he seeks to impose on Nevada County. Generalizations will not serve.

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    [Mr fish, this kind of crap is really not necessary. Jeff Pelline is his own worst enemy with people who can think, and he does that every time he delivers some copy that attempts to address a serious issue. He cannot, and that alone seals his fate in the debate. Taking cheap swings at him does nothing but weaken the substantive opposition to what he and his promote in our community. Please! gjr]
    If you are specifically requesting that I stop this I will. Please recall that both jeffy and his popinjay sidekick Frisch have openly stated that they long for the time when those in opposition to their political positions die off. My comments aren’t substantively different!

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  41. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    Happy Martin Luther King Jr. holiday to all @ Rebane’s Ruminations!

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  42. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    Happy Martin Luther King, Jr. to all @ Rebane’s Ruminations!

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 657pm – Understood and agreed. Nevertheless, thanks for letting them be the unilateral assholes.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Happy MLK the fine Republican Minister.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    One “value” is already known. ” you can say anything you like,, just as long as “we” ( Bay LIBS) agree with what you say”. Another ” value”, ” Public land belongs to all the people. That’s why it needs to be closed so “the people” don’t destroy it. ( Loggers and miners in particular) Only those that “understand” nature shall be allowed in. (by permit)
    Private property.. Everyone else gets to tell you what you can do with it. (or NOT do with it)
    And all the dope you can handle. Man, woman or child.
    That’s just to name a few.
    But Nevada City “values” are a good comparison to the ones I missed. It’s not called Berkeley of the foothills for nothing. ( Nevada City to N. San Juan proper)
    Liberal Progressiveism is toxic and rots everything it infiltrates or touches. ( including the human mind)

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  46. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    MLK was a splendid Republican and a great man. So, he gets his own holiday while the two greatest Americans of all history get to share “President’s Day.” Sounds about right in our day and age.

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  47. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    ” green radicals , the parasites, truckee troll, sour black heart, do not have the wherewithal to express, how did the casket shopping go, a little delusional, “voice of the diminishing”, To many “hot pockets”?, unilateral assholes, popinjay sidekick , toxic and rots everything” —- just a sampling of today’s outstanding discourse on the problems of our time.

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  48. joe smith Avatar
    joe smith

    Must admit to a lot of innuendo being dispensed with very little backstory. The board feet of timber harvested during said time remained basically static, What changed were the mills production rates.. It was cheaper to send raw logs and have them milled offshore in factory boats 12 miles outside or Acrcata, or simply sent to japan to be repurposed into useable products such as trim and pre hung doors. The logging continued (continued) in teams of skilled men that speak no English. Down and simple, white American boys are smart enough to know they can hitch a ride on the government gravy train out of the forests. Those that remain are from Latin America and gladly work their butt’s off to turn in a fair day’s labor. Environmental green washings might sound great at company rallies, but the truth is, that the true workers are out making the cut and don’t give a rat’s ass about the Union unemploid lament.

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  49. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Joe Koyote | 18 January 2015 at 10:21 PM
    I do love it when you decide to take the high road JoKe.

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  50. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 18 January 2015 at 08:00 PM
    So…….we’ll be seeing a little elaboration about those legendary San Francisco values……by what…..say noonish today?

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