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George Rebane

Reports from Sydney (here) are the latest addition to a new dimension of threats from the world of Islam.  We have seen in Canada, the UK, the US, and now Australia how self-radicalized Muslims are emerging from the commonly viewed β€˜moderate Islamic communities’ to plan and commit acts of jihadic terror in their adopted countries.  These terrorists have no formal relationship to established jihadist organizations that are publicly sworn to the destruction of our civilization, and its replacement with a most severe form of global Islam.

This class of lone wolf Muslim terrorist is always the hardest to detect and stop, especially in liberal societies of the west where today there is present an almost insane imperative to deny history and current evidence.  The delivered public wisdom is that the largely silent Muslim communities, already established in such host countries, share our horror and condemnation of the growing litany of ongoing terror that Islamists have spread to multiple continents worldwide.  Unfortunately, that is not the case.

One of the leading and more constructive voices in the west who warns us about the real mindset of Islam is Dr Tawfik Hamid, himself a former jihadist.  He has written and spoken extensively in the west’s leading media outlets such the WSJ and the NYT.  Years ago Dr Hamid started warning us about Islam and the dangerous politicized use of β€˜Islamophobia’ (e.g. here).  Besides his own experience with radicalized Islam and its broadly accepted geo-strategic objectives, Hamid has brought forth evidence from Islam itself citing numerous surveys of Muslim attitudes (e.g. from Pew Research) both in the west and from β€˜the Arab street’.

Hamid, along with other tolerant Muslim intellectuals, continue to paint a realistic picture of Islam’s relationship with the west.  An accessible compendium of such commentaries that seeks to inform us is available from β€˜A symposium: What is Moderate Islam?’

I bring these reports to your attention not only in connection with the newly emerging β€˜Islamist threat vector’, but also to remind some readers who have been critical of RR’s interpretation of what has really been going on between Islam and the west during the recent decades.  We are closer than ever to identifying the real geo-strategic threat to the west from radicalizing Islam (see also Kissinger’s World Order) without which we have been flailing ineffectively in what we mistakenly call our β€œwar against terror”.  I believe we can begin winning again only after we realize the true nature of the conflict in which we are engaged.

[30dec14 update]  And one of the west’s greatest statesmen, historians, and wartime leaders Sir Winston Churchill penned and delivered these words in an 1899 history book when he was already a decorated veteran and journalist.  His prophetic insights about Islam (then Mohammedanism) – "No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" – echo stronger than ever across the intervening century.  (H/T to correspondent)

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.  The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity.  The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.  Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

(Churchill W., The River War (First Edition,Vol II, pgs 248-250), London)

[4jan15 update]  For more on what moderate Islamic leaders are saying about Islam's support of its radical factions, please see 'Scattershots – 4jan15'.

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191 responses to “Islamophobia 2.0 (updated 4jan15)”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Good analysis Walt. He is unable to debate and he never answers our questions except for smartass retorts. That is why people like him are not aligned with victory. Whether it is in America or elsewhere. The common man, the “ditch digger” bested the self proclaimed “smart guy”. Excellent!

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd you asked me if I blamed Bush and Cheney for various worlwide situations and I said I didn’t. What more do you want? You wrote ” I am all ears on how Bush/Cheney were responsible. Oh and Rwanda.”
    Walt
    Without speculating on the costs of an international policy all you have to share i s bluster. Talk is cheap the price of action is colossal. Go ahead, give it a go. How many trillion dollars, who will pay for it and where will the money come from how many thousands of lives, how long will it last. Give it a go!
    Todd
    The Cato Institute was created by the Koch Brothers to expand the consciousness of Libertarian thought. I guess it’s too Conservative for you. the AEI is the Neo-Con think tank that promoted the war in Iraq and provided many Bush cabinet members and staff. I have no interest in their opinion but I understand why it appeals to limp Conservatives like you.

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 109pm – “What’s to prevent a future Republican administration from making the same tragic mistake if placed in control?” It’s mind boggling that you asked that question. It’s like someone asking the same question about a future Democratic administration viz the Vietnam war.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    My mistake. You’re not a Conservative, you’re a Republican. Sorry, my bad.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul Emery, you are too funny. You still have not answered the questions and simply obfuscate. So you can talk to my hand.
    Regarding the Cato. So, let me get this straight. You hate the Koch brothers but use their organization as a confirmer of your opinions? Wow! Are you on your meds?
    Regarding you calling me a limp conservative. I would suggest your have it backwards. My opinions are placed in motion at the highest levels of our government. My party has gained huge success. Tell us all how many representatives in the “people’s house” that you have? Oh, that would be none. So, it appears the “;imp” is in your stride as mine is just fine.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Piss poor try Paul, As LIBS say ” If it saves one life” or “for the children”.
    Seems genocide, and slavery is preferable than spending a few bucks. LIBD have yet to care, or give a damn about the cost of anything. The more they can spend of other people’s money the better. Never mind the trillions “O” and Co. has racked up. More than all the administrations combined. ( More facts you fail the consider before piping up.)
    Now how bout going back and eating your words about us being a conquering nation?
    (actually a “liberating” nation.. ) Now go contemplate that.
    Yup,, “FREE TIBET” Just how do you peaceniks propose we do that? Ask nicely? LOL!!
    Cut off our internist payments on all that money we borrowed? Yup,, that will show’m..
    It’s the limp dick LIBS that have propagated world disorder, and human suffering. Deal with it.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gentlemen. There are swinging dicks and there are limp dicks. There is a way to settle this. You gather in a neutral spot, say the new Dollar General. Each is given one pebble to put in your shoe. Then you are given a map and instructions which tell you to walk to Utah’s Place, up and down every isle in the Brunswick Safeway, Rite-Aid, Ben Franks, and then walk over to the old Meek’s parking lot. Last one still walking without limping is the winner of the Swinging Dick Award. First one who walks until he goes limp is declared the Limp Dick Person of the Year. Happy trails.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar

    Sure Walt
    Bush had a real stiffie for sure. By the way Walt did you ever put on a military uniform? We all know Todd stayed home and rode motorcycles.
    Predictable response on the Koch Bros Todd. I dislike the influence of big money on elections that they are so good at. I do appreciate their Libertarian views and the Cato institute is well respected as an intelligent outlet for Libertarian opinions many, but not all, I agree with. And by your”party” you mean the Rewpublicrats of which your beloved Republicans are the fat right wing (facing the bird.) It’s normal for those with BRC to attach themselves to organizations, religions and dynamic individuals to make up for their insecurities.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    I sure as hell did. My Brother too, And two Uncles in WWI.( Ya.. figure that one out) My Son has done three tours in the big sand box, and many volunteer duty assignments.
    Yes. A military tradition.
    Sorry,, not quite the answer you were looking for. Again you rolled the dice and crapped out.
    But you sure are a coward where answering questions about your warped statements comes into play. yup,, back to ” Look over here”.
    Since your so worried about OPM (other people’s money) maybe giving up your subsidized gig is in order.. ( Nope,, not calling KVMR to see who is paying for what.) I know,,, I know… that ain’t going to happen either. But makes for good hypocrisy.
    Ya’ see Radical Islam and Progressives have pretty much the same agenda. They just go at it in different ways. They both want to control the people. From speech, to how much they own. In school, it’s dumbing down ,, one kid at a time.( I.E. Common core) ( over there,, they burn the schools with the kids inside… it’s faster that way.)
    Just an example…
    Now cough up same answers of your own Paul. Think you can handle it?

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BillT, now that is a great idea. Only problem though is the libs cheat. He would put a pea in his shoe which would soon soften and he would be unable to limp.
    Paul Emery, you crack me up. My goodness now you parse your position on the Koch Brothers. What a hoot!

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Being Progressive Marxists Authoritarian Liberals means never having to say you are sorry. But, they sure are sorry sumbitches.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, me thinks you are right about Sweden opening it’s heart and putting out the welcome mat for the peace lubbing ragheads, bush rats, towelheads, diaperheads, and camel jockeys. Not such a good idea in Utopia.
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/youth-rioting-in-sweden-its-the-muslims-stupid/
    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Well Bill, I also get updates from family there.(on my Mamma’s side) They are of Viking blood and are not happy with their version of our LIBS.
    Paul has proved he is on the wrong side of history. He needs to quit since he is SO far behind. His statements regarding the U.S. and how it acts are 180 deg. from fact.
    No amount of revisionism will change that.
    The Idea of ” we can all just get along” is nice,, but that doesn’t even work in S.F. or Berkeley.
    OK,,, I hung Paul out to dry,,,, NEXT!!??

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yep, Mr. Walt: Some recently scoffed at the idea of peaceful socialist Swedes taking to the streets carrying baseball bats to protect their children from the Muslim immigrants. Not exactly in tune with the political line spouted by the Swedish politicians or progressives. More Muslim immigrants equals a 9 fold increase in robberies, rapes, and the collapse of social safety nets. No other way to slice or dice it. None.
    Even talk of strengthening the police against the Hoodlum Muslums is against the happy face image the Swedish elitists in power want the world to believe. Nothing wrong in Socialist Utopia, nothing to see here. It’s them darn Danes that are speaking against the Muslims and that darn xenophobic Netherlands that can’t see the light.
    Kinda reminds me of Chicago. The criminals are Flash Mob Flash Rob “children” who are murdering other “children”, not gang banger young adults olds of color. The police should show more restraint and become defanged. Meanwhile, it’s the taxpayers of Sweden and Chicago that pay for the “spirited youths” antics and welfare, as well as being are the easy targets to boot. Taxpayers are such pussies, such spineless wonders. They don’t deserve to live in safety.
    All is swell in Utopia tonight. Lock your doors, bar your windows, and sweet dreamies. BTW, your taxes are going up just to be fair and understanding. Liberalism is a disorder of the mind and a cancer of the communal body.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    The story itself is out of context here, but is right in line with the Leftist monkey business and revisionism of the likes of Paul.
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/21/time-right-wing-militias-are-the-real-threat-to-cops/

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 21 December 2014 at 08:48 PM
    While I’ve been doing my level best to not pay attention to this weekends “Islamo Marathon” that I’d drop by and see what the comment count was up to! 160 plus huh….c’mon guys you’re hardly trying!
    Anayway I figured that they would try to deflect attention away from the guy that actually committed the crime onto white guys or republicans! I just didn’t think they were so frantic to change the subject that they would try it the day after!
    Who reads Time magazine anymore?

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar

    Well Walt with that family military history no wonder you’re pissed off at our failed foreign policy in the middle east. What a waste of lives and money.
    If you have some questions for me give me five. One sentence each only. I’ll catch up with them tomorrow.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    Thanks for the compliment Todd. Todd 7:23

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  19. Walt Avatar

    You already hung yourself Paul, the “I didn’t see no questions” is old and stale.
    LIBS went out of their way to throw the conflict. (ya.. your “people”.)
    ” OH!! We can’t offend Muslims”. “We can’t shoot back without calling a lawyer first”
    Then there is your constant “illegal war” from times past. But not a peep on all the “illegal” crap that “O” has pulled.
    Poor guy, A ditch digger has more on the ball than you. I guess that’s what happens when you mix cheap Irish booze with shrooms and weed.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar

    You know Walt you have no sense of humor unlike Todd. He makes me laugh all the time. You are just an incredible bore.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Maybe a third party can tell me (since what Paul says is 100% questionable) something. I don’t listen to KVMR.
    Does Paul spew these same inaccuracies over the airwaves that he shovels here?
    Your input is not required Paul. I need reputable feedback.

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  22. Walt Avatar

    A little advice Paul. It’s up to you to take it.(and probably won’t) ” It’s better to be suspected as a fool, than to put it in print and remove all doubt”. ( too bloody late)

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  23. Walt Avatar

    You can add to that “no sense of humor”, no facts of history…
    Reality beats out Liberalism every time.
    My work is done here.. Someone stick a fork in Paul. He is done too.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    re BillT’s 832pm – There is currently a huge news blackout from the northern European countries about the real impact of their Muslim colonizers. Their progressive politicians and lamestream news services continue to put massive amounts of lipstick on a pig that in reality has caused every Quality of Life metric to plunge in those countries as they realize the magnitude of the mistake they have made by allowing unlimited Muslim immigrations into their lands. There is already unreported blood in the gutters, and the future does not look pretty.

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  25. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    huge news blackout….unreported blood in the gutters — Then how do you know this is happening, intuition or wishful thinking?

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Peacenik solution: Understanding and hope on a prayer for assimilation. Give the peaceful followers of The Lying Pedophile Prophet welfare, jobs, and language skills. The new face of Europe is looking more like Somalia. Oh, don’t forget to turn the police into bystanders. That will make them love us, not. Maybe someday they might even like a small percentage of us a tiny bit. Perhaps someday over the rainbow some might go as far as to show a degree of tolerance towards their host countries. Liberal hope burns eternal and flies in the face of sound human reasoning.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/french-city-with-40-muslim-population-is-the-most-dangerous-city-in-europe/

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Hay Joe.. Social media is still alive and well. So do telephones.
    Just because state run news doesn’t report the facts, doesn’t mean the facts stay quiet.
    I hear from my kin in Sweden, and things are not fine. There are ” no go” arias for cops and emergency responders . (Muslim controlled neighborhoods) If they do go in, they get attacked.
    So “if it’s not on the six Oclock news,, it didn’t happen” just doesn’t work anymore.
    Kinda like LIB news here. ” Nope,, no WMDS,, No working nukes found, only a few tons found hidden in the sand,,” But plenty to gas the Kerds and kill untold numbers.
    Our troops come home with effects of chemical exposer,, and the gov. in lockstep with media, just call it “Gulf war syndrome”.
    Those exposed to “Agent Orange” got the same denials.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    JoeK 928pm – In case you have missed it, for almost twenty years now news travels across the world on the internet outside the lamestream channels. Those goings on and other problems with European socialism are apparently overlooked by the outlets which provide your news input – they don’t fit the socialist narrative. Why do you think the progressives all over the world are attempting to pass laws and regulations to bring internet content under government controls like they already are in the world’s autocracies. (Again, for the non-nuanced progressive readers, ‘blackout’ is a relative term in today’s telecom environment.)

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  29. Keen Observer Avatar
    Keen Observer

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30583390
    Lesson of the day…when a peaceful follower of Islam attempts to run you over in a van whilst you shop for your Christmas gifts, make sure to alert him that you harbor no hard feelings towards his religious prerogatives. This has been a message from your State-Sponsored Ministry of Proper Cultural Opinion.
    I am no McCarthy, but it seems logical that the average bear should be worried about the growing “moderate” Muslim population taking roots here in the US. It’s easy to write off when the violence occurs elsewhere on the globe, but the victims of these religious crimes could have been my/your wife, kids, grandkids, etc… These perpetrators of said crimes are not selective of their victims’ race, ethnicity, or political preference; their only criteria in victim selection is a lack of belief in Islam.
    How long will we let the IQ-deprived politically correct tyrants sacrifice our safety to cater towards the easily offended opinions of Islam?

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  30. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    progressives all over the world are attempting to pass laws and regulations to bring internet content under government controls”
    Where does the issue of net neutrality fit into this? It seems to me that the large media conglomerates are the ones who want regulations allowing them to have tiered rates and delivery systems not governments.

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    JoeK 1220pm – It seems natural to me and mine that if you want to have internet services that require streaming (actually bursting) realtime files at, say, 20Mbps versus consuming the net at only 3Mbps, that you should probably pay a bit more. How about you?

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  32. Walt Avatar

    The “net” has been doing JUST FINE without government meddling. The “G” man brings to it’s knees anything he touches.
    Here we go again with control hungry government LIBS. ” The people are too stupid to know what’s best for them… WE must step in and “moderate” (control, tax, regulate, have a finger on the off switch, snoop, pry, have access to every computer,, etc.)

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And now for the reading impaired, we have visual aides.
    http://pamelageller.com/2014/11/watch-video-muslim-youths-rocket-attack-london-police.html/
    And now, we have visual aides on US soil:
    http://theunitedwest.org/american-muslims-stone-christians/
    They are getting closer. Good thing most of our immigrants are just Latinos and not those pig humpiing peaceful tolerate followers of Allah. In reflection, we have it a lot easier than the EU. Always a silver lining

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    That is why Ben Emery is a pagan he doesn’t want to get stoned by the Muslims.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Lol Todd. Perhaps if Barrack Hussein Obama spent all those years sitting in a real Black Christian Church instead of listening to his mentor, blasphemer, and baptizer The Most Reverend Jeremiah Wright the Meek,, he might have got stoned as well.
    BTW, I has to click on the video several times to get it to play the whole peaceful scene. πŸ˜‰

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 306pm – Thank you for the video of the news item that was blacked out Mr Tozer. My 1140am question for JoeK (and all progressives) will go unanswered. But such videos published on small web outlets sure nail the assertion that, led by the lamestream, our news media manned by self-anointed ‘professional journalists’ are basically chickenshit when it comes to reporting uncomfortable news that doesn’t fit the politically correct narrative. My biggest gripe is with the WSJ and Fox News, the Rachel Maddows can be forgiven because they can’t see such things from where their heads are firmly stuck.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Well well… The straw that broke the camel’s back.
    Seems that school massacre has now made it open season on ALL Taliban.
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/12/21/world-view-after-pakistans-911-war-declared-on-the-taliban/
    No more “good ones” and “bad ones”. If you read the story, you will find that it might be prudent to by stock in rope. The hang man is going to be REAL busy.
    It’s about damned time.
    It also appears that they are allowing U.S. attacks on said vermin also. Now just to get “O” to allow those hits. He likes to keep casualties down. Namely Muslim extremists.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, goes to show you don’t win friends and influence others by killing the children of the opposing army’s top brass. But, Pakistan is still an Muslim country which means they are full of liars, cheats, and thieves. I won’t trust what they say, nor would I trust Ali Babbage and his 40 thieves.
    http://www.charismanews.com/world/39034-police-watch-as-muslim-mob-ransacks-christian-neighborhood
    More news from the Socialist Utopia of lefty wet dreams:
    http://www.islam-watch.org/home/63-letters/1319-a-muslim-on-trial-for-assault-in-malmo-sweden.pdf
    http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/sweden-gang-of-youths-in-muslim-area-viciously-assault-elderly-man-after-thinking-his-hearing-aid-was-police-radio/

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Great posts Mr.T… Goes to show Joe that if it’s not on LIB news, it DID happen.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ok, rather that post hundreds of more post of Muslim immigrant mayhem, here is a nice calm discussion by two former Muslims and one former atheist about another yet another episode in Dearborn, Michigan. No rock or bottles thrown, no fires, just talk.
    http://smoothstoneblog.net/2010/06/video-allahu-akbar-shouted-as-christians-cuffed-in-michigan-usa.htm
    The dilemma for the Progressives in Sweden, the EU, and even the USA is free speech is standing in the way of the holy grail of liberal multiculturalism. Seems the two cannot co-exist. It is now against the law to criticize the Muslim community in Sweden, not matter how factually correct one is. Thus the news “blackout”. If we cannot even talk about it, then free speech is put on the sacrificial altar of liberal ideology.

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  41. Russ Steele Avatar

    In Sweden, the Land of the Open Door, Anti-Muslim Sentiment Finds a Foothold
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/world/in-sweden-the-land-of-the-open-door-anti-muslim-sentiment-finds-a-foothold.html
    The Swedes have final had enough of the religion of peace and no-tolerance.

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