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George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 3 December 2014.]

I intended this to be a wrap-up on the Ferguson riots, but sadly there is no wrap possible, because Ferguson is just the latest chapter in the marathon effort to fundamentally transform America.  So all we can do is pause here and take stock of recent happenings with the Michael Brown shooting by Officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Missouri on 9 August last.

Michael Brown was a product of our broken black culture.  He was an underachiever with an attitude, a racist, and on that day, a criminal.  He met his end by having the audacity to walk down the center of a trafficked street and challenge a policeman on patrol responding to a 911 about a convenience store robbery in the neighborhood.  It turned out the robbery was committed by Brown, a fact then not known by Wilson.  The criminal grand jury was presented all the evidence about the shooting, which it considered for over 12 weeks before concluding that Officer Wilson shot Brown in the line of duty, and the case required no indictment for a subsequent trial.


However, to those with agendas that far overarched the town of Ferguson, this was a tragedy not to be wasted.  To put things in perspective, we consider that blacks murder almost 5,400 people annually, and whites murder almost 4,400.  Given that blacks make up 13% and whites 63% of the population, blacks kill people, overwhelmingly each other, at a rate at least six times higher than do whites.  Over the last 40 years of government programs and transfer payments, black crime rates have soared while their families were decimated.  The resulting despair and misery in their neighborhoods have become the enduring national ‘poster child’ that have kept progressive vote-buying policies and programs in high gear.  So when a white cop is reported shooting an unarmed black teen-ager, there is hay to be made regardless of the facts, the jurisdictions involved, or the legal due process followed.

The Ferguson incident had to support the narrative that the shooting was prima facie evidence of white-on-black racism still alive and well in the country, a racism that must be continually acknowledged, and a racism that must give rise to ever more investigations, oversights, wealth transfers, and special race-based remedies for the aggrieved and the alleged offenders.  Our federal government was quick to draw attention to all those necessities through the personal appeals of President Obama and his Attorney General Eric Holder.  Holder flew down to make sure that no one misunderstood the nationally significant incident that was now being manufactured from a confrontation between a criminal youth with an attitude and an officer of the local police.

From there the commissioned riots were expanded and inflamed by the ever-willing media.  Some lamestream outlets like CNN even attempted to misreport the riots as peaceful spontaneous demonstrations, while they tried to keep the burning cars and buildings out of their video shots.  Nevertheless, enough thousands of useful idiots could be and were assembled in over a hundred cities to dutifully riot, burn, and plunder while shouting ‘Hands up, don’t shoot!’ – itself a manufactured mantra that according to the grand jury had nothing to do with what happened in Ferguson.  The show had to go on, and we have yet to hear the last of it.

Why?  Because for no apparent reason other than to inspire continuing dissatisfaction with the current national order, the federal government stepped in to launch an investigation and potential prosecution of Officer Wilson for – seatbelts please – for violating Michael Brown’s civil rights.  And then to launch an add-on investigation to see if the Ferguson police practices had racial overtones which might require more federal regulations to saddle police departments across the land.  And why all this after judicial due process determined that the shooting was justified in the line of duty?  Well, it’s the agenda stupid, it’s the agenda.

As I reflect on this insane tragedy and try to put it into some reasonable perspective, the question occurs to me – are those hoodlums torching cars and buildings, and gleefully carrying merchandize out of neighborhood stores; are they trying achieve the same American dream that you and I are working daily to maintain in our country?  I cannot answer for you, but my own answer is a definite NO.  They are nothing like me or mine, and they have a very different direction in mind for our land, the progress along which their elite leaders are doing everything they can with the shooting in Ferguson.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on georgerebane.com where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and debated extensively.  However my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  The one-sidedness of the Ferguson shooting is what infuriates the millions who seek to inform themselves.  The fraction of blacks shot to death in the St Louis area by white police is 2%.  Yet scumbags like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson fly around the country during these occasions doing their best to convince their constituents that white cops shooting black kids is an epidemic.  An epidemic that needs to be stopped by the most dramatic of street outpourings.

What is more reprehensible to me is that the Sharptons and Jacksons are lauded by liberal leaders.  That their personal lives are such that they would lack any moral credentials in less disadvantaged public forums is totally papered over by the national progressive leadership.  They are seen and celebrated in congressional conclaves and White House gathering to address or acknowledge this social problem or that.  And sadder yet is when some of their real credentials leak out to their constituents, then those are taken as confirmation that all are birds of a feather, and that it’s not only OK but ‘normal’ to do and say the things such degraded public persons do and say.

Now I believe that all police killings should become a detailed matter of public record.  However, that is not the case today.  Nationally there are about 18,000 law enforcement agencies, and all of them report their officer killings to the FBI at their pleasure.  The FBI attempts to keep records on such shootings, but an analysis by WSJ staff (reported here) discovered that during recent years there were actually 45% more police justifiable homicides than in the FBI tally.  Whenever government kills, it should become a matter of open public record so that we can keep tabs on the trends that move Leviathan.  All should know that governments in modern times have been the biggest killers of their own citizens.  Governments have killed more of their own than have died in all the wars (here and here).

[4dec14 update]  ‘Staten Island cigarette vendor Eric Garner was killed by the NYPD on 17 July 2014.’  ‘Lifelong criminal Eric Garner was caught selling black market goods on Staten Island on 17 July 2014, and died while resisting arrest by officers of the NYPD.’

From what we know now of the Garner case, buttressed primarily by the video (chokehold, aftermath) of his arrest and death, and the grand jury’s verdict exonerating the officer involved, I throw in my own two cents worth here.

1. The Ferguson and Staten Island cases involved totally different encounters with their respective victims Brown and Garner.

2. From the arrest video it does not appear that Mr Garner resisted arrest; the police assaulted him before there was any physical evidence of any resistance (e.g. his hands were already in the air), although there may have been a verbal exchange indicating otherwise.

3. Mr Garner’s takedown was a clumsy affair with any attempt at a carotid hold immediately slipping into a visible choke hold.  Nevertheless, the coroner indicated that his windpipe had not been crushed or suffered permanent damage.

4. From his arrest record Garner appears to have been a lifelong, unsuccessful, petty criminal reduced to selling individual cigarettes on the black market.

5. The grand jury presumably studied the arrest video and its aftermath in detail.  Using that and other evidence presented, it decided not to indict Officers Daniel Pantaleo and Justin Damico.

6. Since choke holds by police are illegal, there had to be extenuating evidence which made this potentially unnecessary and clearly botched takedown exculpable.  Else, in my opinion, the grand jury made a grievous mistake.

7. There is no evidence that the Garner case and the Brown case had any relation, especially being connected by protester allegations that both are part of a systematic nationwide vendetta by white police against innocent blacks.

8. We are told that the transcripts of the grand jury hearings will be made public soon.  I am willing to wait until that information comes in.

[6dec14 update]  Having watched the Staten Island video over 20 times, many in freeze frame, I am more disturbed than ever at how the NYPD handled the situation.  Not only did Mr Garner offer no resistance, there was absolutely no immediancy to the entire situation.  Mr Garner was a petty criminal selling individual cigarettes – doing business as a willing seller with willing buyers who happen to approach him.  Who was aggrived in these transactions?  Most certainly not the buyer or seller or the local community – it was the state.  The state was denied its pound of flesh in the transactions, and therefore its apparatchiks went into thoughtless action just because they could.

Since there was no immediacy involved, if the cops on scene thought Mr Garcia was a bit slow in compliance (not evident from the video), then take your time.  Pull up a chair, grab a soft drink and talk to the man and explain the matter to him in plain language while all parties let the heat of encounter dissipate.  Hell, take fifteen minutes to chat about it; Garcia was not going to go anywhere or hurt anyone.  So yes, the NYPD needs a lot of retraining if these cops were exemplars of New York's finest.  They need to crank up their situational awareness so that they can tell when it's time to use peremptory force or not.

[8dec14 update]  And now for the expected politically incorrect coda to this post, let's consider the matter of white police killed by blacks.  These occur quietly across the country with no protests, no AG visits, no outrage from black leaders (nor even whites), and, of course, no national news coverage.  Here are just four recent ones picked up by a blogger.  (H/T to reader).

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112 responses to “Ferguson Wrap-up (8dec14 update)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Apparently these people selling cigarettes one at a time are cutting into the taxes NYC gets from charging 13 bucks a pack. So, DeBlasio sent out his troopers to curtail it. It all rests on his back.”
    Todd accurately summarizes the situation. Yes, taxes are levied by politicians and sometimes directly by propositions, and men and women in Blue are standing behind the tax collectors, in this case the poor schmucks making a living selling legal goods upset that an even poorer guy with no overhead besides his last meal was making a few bucks illegally selling untaxed cigs individually, cutting into legal sales.
    Maybe NYC/NY State should cancel all tobacco taxes levied in the distribution chain and instead ask all residents to yearly pay a flat tax based on how many cigs they admit to smoking per day. Think that would work?

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  2. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Greg,
    Its murder, you play the semantic game all you want. An innocent unarmed young man walking out of a 7/11 was shot without cause, that is murder.
    What you don’t understand is most white kids have respect for the police because they don’t see the injustices and abuses on a daily basis. There is a threshold for people on how much they can take. I would love to see you dye your skin black and live as a black man in a poor NYC neighborhood for a a few months. Lets see how much you keep your tongue and put up with the same shit day in day out. Especially you, you cannot hold your act together on blogs so I can only imagine what would happen on the third day in a row of you being stopped and frisked for no reason. How would you respond in this instance, being stopped twice in a couple of blocks span of time? http://documentaryheaven.com/the-hunted-and-the-hated-an-inside-look-at-the-nypds-stop-and-frisk-policy/
    Black Like Me
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/black-like-me-50-years-later-74543463/?no-ist
    What you don’t seem to comprehend 18 year old’s aren’t fully matured, trained as public servants and peace officers, and supposed to be the voice of reason and calm. The police are supposed to fill those roles but in these cases they sure as hell are not the anything like professionals. So lets say Officer Wilson who is 6’4″ and 220lb was out of uniform, how would he treat Michael Brown who is 6’4″ and 290lb? A badge shouldn’t give a person carte blanche. Police also need to follow laws but they seem to be above the law at the moment.
    So your advice is no matter how unjust and abusive just keep your mouth shut and don’t make eye contact. I thought you like to pretend you’re a libertarian, a libertarian with any convictions or principles wouldn’t make that argument.

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  3. Walt Avatar

    On the subject of hate crimes,, funny how Blacks never get charged with it. Only White guys.
    Paul. Where is the likes of Sharton when a White person is attacked by Blacks purely on the color of his skin? And don’t come back with “that just doesn’t happen.” ( Like the White guy murdered with a hammer in Ferguson during the riot.)

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    So George you stand by your view that based only on the testimony of Browns friend you brand him a racist. Amazing conclusion without any attempt to know more about the young man.

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 417pm – First, you and I don’t even have the same definition of racism, and only you know mine. No one has an idea about yours.
    And yes, you’d be surprised how many tens of thousands of things we all reliably and habitually categorize in our lives based on exactly such combinations of past experience and the most recent evidence.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    My definition is not important. I am questioning your methodology. You are making that determination without any inquiry other than the words of one person and nothing more. It is a convenient way of justifying your further conclusions though but, in your words on other matters not sound science. Too bad. This topic deserves more thought than this.

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  7. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “An innocent unarmed young man walking out of a 7/11 was shot without cause, that is murder. ”
    I’m afraid that ‘murder’ is both unlawful (apparently not, given the lack of charges being brought) and requires an appreciable amount of time between thought and action, a thing not present during a few seconds worth of struggle.
    Whether it was a righteous shooting or not is a question I’m not going to worry much about. You’re bound to have corner cases when applying a State near-monopoly on violence.

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 501pm – when people like you demand to debate issues in which the definition of terms central and crucial are “not important”, then all we have left is a deep understanding of why the country is polarized.

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  9. Bob Hobert Avatar
    Bob Hobert

    I rest my case.

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  10. Walt Avatar

    Love it. Paul’s definition isn’t important. Yet he has the brass ones to criticize anyone else’s. A little cowardly if you ask me.
    None of these two instances had anything to do with race or hate. It’s the wedge drivers that made it that way.
    “Lie” witnesses inflamed matters.” He was shot in the back!” Well facts proved otherwise.
    Numerous other claims were also debunked, yet facts be damned. ” We need something to bitch about!” Then “O” and Co. just add fuel to the fire. ( Now “O” claims to keep his nose out of things)
    The Left has done a great job of dividing the country for political reasons.

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Maybe a beer summit would fix things, Obama style.

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  12. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Ben – stop gulping left wing cool-aid and use your brain. “White males despite what we might feel or think. Aren’t any smarter, don’t work any harder, and definitely don’t corner the market on ethical behavior. We were handed down privileges from day one of this country and unfair advantage through legislation/ laws. That is it nothing more.”
    OK – please tell me the advantages and privileges I had as a white male. Specifically. What laws gave me an advantage in the work force?
    Don’t leave out the times I was passed over for promotion because quotas had to be filled. Don’t leave out the time I was not allowed to even fill out an application because I was not part of the ‘program’. I noted that it must have been just a coincidence that every single person in the ‘program’ was not white.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Scott, I have concluded over the years that for some reason Ben Emery is a self hater. I am sad that is so but he finds no peace in this world and takes out his hate on his own skin color for some reason. He is hopeless.
    Paul Emery won’t tell us his definition of racism but he is constantly telling us ours. Now that is special. I have come to the conclusion reading his tripe that he simply tosses bombs out to see who will bite and then criticize. I think I will stop responding. Oh gosh, now that feels good. Clean air. Less liberal smoke and mirrors from the local libs.

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  14. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “Are women not as smart or capable…etc.”
    Well, no. At least not in the case of outliers. It’s an area that has been studied quite a lot.
    The question of average intelligence by gender has a certain amount of contention going on, but it’s all so sullied by belief system that I’m not sure what to believe in that case.

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  15. Russ Steele Avatar

    Guess What The New York Times Journalist Who Published Officer Darren Wilson’s Address Is Doing Right Now?
    Julie Bowman, the New York Times “journalist” who “published Darren Wilson’s home address – the one he shares with his new bride and all – she’s busying herself calling the COPS NONSTOP, apparently. Because she’s been “complaining about people harassing and threatening her” in addition to “complaining about numerous food deliveries being sent to her residence.”
    Sucks for her, huh?
    The Chicago police department told Gotnews about it yesterday. Don’t you just love the blatant double standard here?
    And I bet she doesn’t see the irony in her being all worried for her own safety here. Because American journalism and whatnot.

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  16. Jack Cominsky Avatar
    Jack Cominsky

    Whew, where to begin? George kicked off this thread by labeling it as a “Ferguson Wrap-up.” The discussion here very quickly veered off in a bunch of different directions. I’d like to return to what I believe was the intent of George’s initial post by exploring the issue of what precipitated the violence that was visited on Ferguson after the Grand Jury announced the results of its inquiry.
    As an infrequent poster here, I believe I owe it to all of you to reveal a bit about my background. I grew up in the midwest in the ’50s and ’60s, and attended college in Cleveland during the height of the civil rights riots that took place in the mid to late ’60s. If you Google the term “Hough riots,” you’ll get an idea of what I lived through. It was a very, very ugly time. The governor called out the Ohio national guard, and guardsmen were billeted in the dorms of the college I attended.
    I bring this up because I am proud of the progress that America has made over the past 50 years to advance the cause of racial equality. But having said that, I am deeply distressed at how opportunistic politicians, pundits, and self-proclaimed “community leaders” have pissed away the hard fought efforts and sacrifices of the 60’s civil rights leaders to promote their own agendas.
    I’ve read nearly all of the Ferguson Grand Jury material, and I can say in all good conscience that if I had been on that Grand Jury, I would have joined the supermajority in voting AGAINST an indictment of Officer Wilson.
    I am deeply saddened by the needless death of young Mr. Brown. But I reject the notion that Mr. Brown’s death was due to any wrongdoing on the part of Officer Wilson.
    If you’re so inclined, take the time to read the following blog post (and accompanying comments) by Massad Ayoob, a nationally known expert in the legal and ethical use of lethal force:
    http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2014/11/28/ferguson-part-v-why-officer-wilson-was-justified-in-shooting-an-unarmed-man/
    – Jack

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    From a concerned correspondent.

     

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    there is no debate here. The fact that you hafve chosen to call Michael Brown a teenager a racist based upon the statements on one other teenager is so off the charts as to being a reasonable assumption that it requires no further discussion from me. I am confounded as to why you feel the need to go in such a direction but so be it.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    You know, these series of unfortunate events would happen with less frequency if the black communities would clean up their own hotbeds for crime. Murders, robberies, etc. are found in the black communities are a disapportioate rate. Very very disapportioate rate.
    What the New York thang is about is another black man (a very obese) black man with a rap sheet that includes 30 arrests since 1980. He was out on bail at the time of his death. Out on bail for illegally selling cigs, driving without a license, and false impersonation. And the cops were called to the scene by a 911 call.
    As some would have it, the cops should not have responded to a 911 call for minor offenses, thus violating their duty.
    I do not condone police brutality ever. I do understand frustration and punks. If I ever took a job as a school bus driver, I would be in the clink with national headlines for slapping the crap out of those foul mouth disrespectful brats called Angels by their parents. With that said, the choking did not kill the fat boy from Brooklyn. No, he did not die at the scene either. He died of cardiac arrest on the way to the hospital.
    For murder or second degree of manslaughter charges to be prosecuted, there has to be proof the cops knew in advance and had reasonable expectations that the take down hold would cause the fat boy’s death. His other number pus health issues ultimately cause the repeat offenders death.
    And Rodney King was a motorist and Michael Brown was a gentle soul who would never hurt a fly. And Twanya Brown wad a victim of white hatred.

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  20. Bob Hobert Avatar
    Bob Hobert

    GR – I truly enjoy your blog – there’s no one more topical and intellectual. I was expressing my frustration with the interminable and predictable partisan sniping from a small set of regulars. How you persevere I do not know. Here’s a story from Ferguson I found informative, and healing.
    http://dailysignal.com/2014/12/05/ferguson-pastor-explains-city-doesnt-race-problem/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningbell&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRoks6TIZKXonjHpfsX57ukkUaWzlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4FTsdlI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxU%3D

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    BobH 754am – thank you for the kind words Bob. I am constantly reminded that we come to this forum to exercise our ideas and have them contend with their counters. The objective is not so much to bend the other’s ideology toward ours, but to let readers not yet certain of their own see how a given topic is dissected, which often includes “partisan sniping” but frequently also submitted in lengthy monologues well researched and thought out. I suppose the rest (save the mudballs) we can take as entertainment.
    Good link, and good words from the pastor. I also believe it comes down to a matter of shared culture and not racial differences.

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  22. Walt Avatar

    How bout one of the resident Lefties show how anything here was “race based?

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  23. Keen Observer Avatar
    Keen Observer

    Bill Tozer’s 6:02Am comment was spot on…once upon a time, there used to be this foreign concept of one being responsible for one’s actions. But alas, this concept exists no more. The Great Society and political correctness has gone a long way towards degrading the traditional family structure and removing responsibility from the actions of an individual, which as a consequence, has degraded morality in America.
    I sincerely hope that Dr. Ben Carson runs in 2016, as thus far, his prescription for America seems the most beneficial to restoring the values which at one time made America the greatest nation on Earth. Clearly, our current politically correct moral policy of “anything goes” is not functioning correctly.

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  24. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Hey, I have heard that the man in Staten Island did not have a choke hold on him. What is the truth?

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  25. Walt Avatar

    @ Keen O.. Just add Prop. 47 to that. Race was used to pass that too.
    There has been a spike in accusations of “race” being the reason anyone of color being stopped by cops. From anything from speeding to drug dealing.
    A washed up actress of color was busted for having sex in public, yet cried racism for getting busted.
    Don’t forget our “racist” Att. Gen. Holder. ( Yet it’s acceptable if your a LIB it seems)
    Remember his ” my people” comment?
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/01/holder-focus-on-black-panther-case-demeans-my-people/
    What we have is reverse racism today, driven and encouraged by this radical LIB administration.

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  26. George Rebane Avatar

    From the RR Glossary, the definition of Racism/racist –
    Racism is the belief that race accounts for some differences in human character or ability. A racist is someone who evinces such a belief. In its obligatory pejorative, a racist is always someone who practices such beliefs to the detriment of an offended group of people, whether they are of a different race or simply a different culture. Its widespread and politically correct usage has removed all information carrying capacity from the label. More is discussed in ‘Who is a Racist?’ linked below.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/07/who-is-a-racist.html

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 05 December 2014 at 11:52 AM
    Oh George…..you’ve brightened my day! Another epic comment thread! Steve seeing racists behind every tree….jeffy desperately promoting his voting record!
    Fabulous!

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    BobH 404pm – What a great little interlude; thanks Bob. You keep that up and you’ll soon be assigned Morale Officer for these comment streams 😉

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  29. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Perfect, Bob H – 4 white males singing about a wonderful world. Please envision that soundtrack played over a video compilation of the ‘peaceful’ demonstrations in Ferguson with the flames in the background.
    Paul is incensed because George has decided M Brown is a racist based on the word of some one who knew him. Is Paul incensed the whole brewhaha in Ferguson is labelled a racist incident based on absolutely no proof of any kind? Oh right – that’s different.

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  30. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    “Racism is the belief that race accounts for some differences in human character or ability.”
    Good heavens, why would you think otherwise?

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  31. Bob Hobert Avatar
    Bob Hobert

    Here you go Scott O – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5TwT69i1lU
    We see what we want to see, I suppose. Louis Armstrong probably had never “seen” Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, although I suspect he would have seen through them.

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  32. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    That song was popular when I was young – I remember Louis taking a lot of heat from younger and more radical blacks about his recording that song. They hadn’t lived his life. He went through far more crap for being black than those young punks would ever experience. Louis saw that life for all in this country was much better than it had been and was getting even better still. We can have a ‘color blind society’ as soon as we stop listening to poverty pimps and race hustlers like Obama and Sharpton and Holder. They have no interest in educating and empowering non-Euros to become self motivated and financially secure.
    Louis Armstrong was well acquainted with folks like Adam Clayton Powell and could very well envision even more of the same ilk coming along after him. There are plenty of black Americans that lived through Jim Crow and horrible racist attitudes that were far, far worse than what blacks face today. They did not forget, but they overcame with dignity and love for their fellow man and refused to further the hatred and racism that is the hallmark of the modern liberal and leftie of today. They are spit on even today – not by the KKK but by the left and the MSM. They are shoved aside and called names by many who have never even had to face any of the horrors that were common place when I was young.

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George you had a really profund affect on Ben Emery and his wife. Here is his comment on the FUE’s blog I guess he should go take a shower. LOL!.
    Ben Emery says:
    December 6, 2014 at 7:44 am
    Jeff,
    My wife said she wanted to vomit after hearing George’s commentary the other night on KVMR. She was glad I pushed back against it on his blog. Her conclusion is this- the people who have little empathy for others are very young souls and are so oblivious to their ignorance they are proud to share it with the world.
    Time for me to go sit in the trees and get connected. Have a good day.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Another example of “race” being interjected into anything and everything.
    “according to the Times, Landrieu’s troubles center on the lack of black voters and fed-up whites.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/12/04/NY-Times-Landrieu-Is-Losing-Because-White-Voters-Don-t-Like-Her-Not-Enough-Blacks-Left
    Lets not forget the vilification of any man or woman “of color” that runs for office on the Conservative side of things. And by who? The LIBS of course. The racist comments by “their own” come flying.
    Even in D.C. ,, under the dome, the facts be damned, and elected officials “of color” just have to play the race card, with “hands up don’t shoot” while making statements at the podium. Just like they did with the Treyvon Martin case. ” Shot like a dog in the street”( uh, no he wasn’t)
    There is another case of a Black man getting killed by a cop. At least this time the family is telling the race baiters ( Sharpton and the like) to stay the hell away.
    Sharpton,, on his own, decided HE was going to speak at the funeral. The family was more than pissed. They told him to take his race baiting somewhere else.
    But you won’t hear about this from the MSM.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 06 December 2014 at 08:59 AM
    Jeff,
    My wife said she wanted to vomit after hearing George’s commentary the other night on KVMR. She was glad I pushed back against it on his blog. Her conclusion is this- the people who have little empathy for others are very young souls and are so oblivious to their ignorance they are proud to share it with the world.
    Time for me to go sit in the trees and get connected. Have a good day.

    Yes… “false consciousness”…..that which allows the leftist to continue pressing his/her point when facts and reason have abandoned them. Ben employs it regularly when he plays his “you guys don’t get the big picture” card.

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  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    *Ben Emery… Brainless!
    Backing up to his 04 December 2014 at 02:34 PM:

    Greg,
    Its murder, you play the semantic game all you want. An innocent unarmed young man walking out of a 7/11 was shot without cause, that is murder.

    He wasn’t shot walking out of a 7/11, he was shot rushing a cop after having pummeled him in the face and tried to grab his gun before he’d even gotten out of the patrol car. It was self defense.
    Most cops who lose their gun to an assailant are the first ones shot and killed with it. Unarmed does not mean harmless and if you keep advancing on a cop after he’s warned you to stop and get on the ground 10+ times, don’t be surprised if you get shot some more.

    What you don’t understand is most white kids have respect for the police because they don’t see the injustices and abuses on a daily basis. There is a threshold for people on how much they can take. I would love to see you dye your skin black and live as a black man in a poor NYC neighborhood for a a few months. Lets see how much you keep your tongue and put up with the same shit day in day out. Especially you, you cannot hold your act together on blogs so I can only imagine what would happen on the third day in a row of you being stopped and frisked for no reason. How would you respond in this instance, being stopped twice in a couple of blocks span of time? http://documentaryheaven.com/the-hunted-and-the-hated-an-inside-look-at-the-nypds-stop-and-frisk-policy/

    I would love to see you gain about 30 IQ points, but that won’t happen, either. Most of the shit that poor brown regular people in poor brown inner cities get is the shit served by the criminal element that look like them. Blaming it on whitey cops is a true cop-out.

    Black Like Me
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/black-like-me-50-years-later-74543463/?no-ist

    That isn’t the world now, Ben, and there are plenty of hard working people of all colors who manage to get by without reaching into cop cars, pounding the faces of cops and trying to get their gun.
    What you don’t seem to comprehend 18 year old’s aren’t fully matured, trained as public servants and peace officers, and supposed to be the voice of reason and calm. The police are supposed to fill those roles but in these cases they sure as hell are not the anything like professionals. So lets say Officer Wilson who is 6’4″ and 220lb was out of uniform, how would he treat Michael Brown who is 6’4″ and 290lb? A badge shouldn’t give a person carte blanche. Police also need to follow laws but they seem to be above the law at the moment.
    6’5″ and fresh off a strongarm robbery, he attacked the cop. How do you think a cop would react? Do you really think a white 18 year old, 6’5″ and 289# assaulting a cop and showing intent to use deadly force against a cop would get different treatment?
    “You’re too much of a pussy to shoot me”, from the cop’s testimony, was a bad call by young Mister Brown, who had already shown an attempt at lethal force as he struggled for the officer’s gun. Yep, lean into a cop car, pummel the cop in the face and try for his gun is a sure recipe for a life changing event.
    So your advice is no matter how unjust and abusive just keep your mouth shut and don’t make eye contact. I thought you like to pretend you’re a libertarian, a libertarian with any convictions or principles wouldn’t make that argument.

    Make lots of eye contact, Ben, just don’t try to stop the cop from arresting you, and if he has his gun out and tells you to stop where you are and get on the ground, rushing him at full speed, even if your intent is for a group hug, is a very bad idea. In the case of Brown, there were black witnesses (multiple witnesses, Ben) who testified to the grand jury that the cop gave 10+ warnings to stop, the cop started shooting but stopped when Brown stopped, repeating the commands to get on the ground, and then started firing the last shots as Brown made his last charge.
    Again, and in short, Ben, you are such a bloody idiot and virtually nothing you write has any value other than as a target. Libertarianism isn’t a pledge to non-violence, although party membership does include a pledge not to initiate the use of violence for political means, and most Libs would also condemn shoplifting or battery on a shopkeeper attempting to stop the shoplifting. Yes, even cops have the very basic right to self defense, and are not bound to fighting with fists if that’s all the perp brought. Cop or private citizen, when you have a right to stand your ground (all the time for cops, some of the time for the rest of us), you have a right to shoot someone planning on assault and battery especially if they’ve already committed assault and battery.
    It’s sad a young man met an early end. It’s also sad his mom beat up on grandma, taking the cash and merchandise, for her audacity to be selling Michael Brown memorabilia… some apples don’t fall far from the tree.

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    fish

    Jeff,
    My wife said she wanted to vomit after hearing George’s commentary the other night on KVMR. She was glad I pushed back against it on his blog. Her conclusion is this- the people who have little empathy for others are very young souls and are so oblivious to their ignorance they are proud to share it with the world.
    Time for me to go sit in the trees and get connected. Have a good day.

    If the indifference to the “correct” narrative and lack of empathy made Bens wife want to vomit vis a vis the Ferguson incident. The sloppy plagiarism of hidden literary themes and indifference to “rape culture” in the UVA false rape case will surely cause her hurl.
    http://takimag.com/article/a_rape_hoax_for_book_lovers_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3L3L1mExB%20
    Really guys…..don’t you think that it’s time for a little QA/QC on the stories you want to use to achieve political change?

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    Gregory

    “the people who have little empathy for others are very young souls” – attr. Mrs Emery
    People who have no empathy for a fellow human because they are white and chose policework deserve to have no officer of the law respond when they call for help.

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Gregory is absolutely right on.

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  40. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “the people who have little empathy for others are very young souls”
    This might be an accurate statement if we all agree that we have souls and that the souls age or regenerate or something. I would love to have some rational or scientific proof of that theory. Until then, it’s just a rant by some one who wants to impose their religious views on everyone else. I think we can all agree that by saying that she desires to regurgitate (but apparently a figurative action, not an actuality) whatever she has previously ingested upon hearing George’s opinion, Ben’s wife is not in total or even partial agreement with George’s ideas. She does approve of and probably encourages her husband’s posts that counter George’s. Beyond that, she has offered no counter arguments or facts, just some esoteric name-calling based on her previously opined religious views. When ever Ben posts, please keep in mind that he probably is constrained to interact with this person on a fairly regular basis.

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    Bill Tozer

    Some people have no empathy for the grieving families:
    http://nypost.com/2014/12/05/cop-shoot-victims-family-stay-away-sharpton/

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    Bill Tozer

    Brother Ben, Eric Holder and you and your lovely bride are all on the same page. Not surprising.
    Best wishes and I hope the nuke juice don’t ruin your fro. Peace to all my sistas from other mistas.
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/holder-vows-end-racial-profiling/#J92F8OGR3gZ68FdP.97

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Bill. I can hear the police radio already. ” A person just robbed the corner liquor store. That’s all the info we can give you.(by law)” Nope, can’t describe the gender, color, cloths he/she/it has on, height, etc. Holder and crew will consider ANY description a form of “profiling”. By definition any of the above is profiling.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    “O” didn’t get the title of “the great divider” for nothing.
    Here,, he is at it again.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/07/Obama-Racism-Deeply-Rooted-in-U-S

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Knowing how Stephen Frisch is quick to share his native Chicago Values and machine politics with the rest of us, I thought it appropriate to share a wonderful website that details just how wonderful the windy city is.
    http://heyjackass.com/
    It may well change before you check but at the time of my writing this, there have been 130 fatal firearms homincides in Chicago since the Ferguson unpleasantness. It isn’t all tragedy… they also present a Shot-In-The-Ass-O-Meter and Shot-In-The-Junk-O-Meter for a bit of levity in an otherwise sad reminder about what a crappy place some Chicagoans have made their home.

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  46. Russ Steele Avatar

    Gregory@06:34PM
    Wow, some real stats to protest over.

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  47. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 09 December 2014 at 06:34 PM
    Looks like August was a good month in which to be shot in the junk in Chicago.

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  48. Walt Avatar

    Yup,, racism is now everywhere. Even Capitalism is racialist. ( Only in the LIB mind)
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/10/msnbc-guest-capitalism-is-an-oppressive-force-against-blacks-video/

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