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Sandbox – 16nov14

16 November 2014

[Boy oh boy, but do these sandboxes fill up fast. I constantly wonder where you guys get all those quotes from other blogs and websites. gjr]

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102 responses to “Sandbox – 16nov14”

Russ Steele

18 November 2014

For a WH that does not know anything about Jonathan Gruber, go to the WH web pages and type in Gruber’s name. Hurry before they take it down.

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Bill Tozer

18 November 2014

Good one Russ. last night AM 780 played audio of Obama telling the audience back when that their ideas are so good that he is stealing them. “Their” means the 4 people he mentioned by name, one of which was Jon Boy Gruber. I still think Gruber is one hell of a good public healthcare policy wonk and he knew and modeled the true costs like no one else. He was exactly spot on on how to fool the CBO. He was 100% right, on how to present Obamacare to the dummies, despite his lib arrogance. Pure genius. I don’t condone his actions, but like the 9/11 attacks, the plan was great and it got pulled off almost flawlessly. Just saying…
No one has ever explained to me how to achieve diversity without counting heads. To me it’s still a quota by any other name.
http://news.yahoo.com/why-asian-students-suing-harvard-unc-affirmative-action-211016762.html

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Bill Tozer

18 November 2014

More doggie doo and they dogs that did them.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/homeless-camps-trash-ballona-wetlands-021241468.html
What’s the big deal? The illegals leave mountains of trash in protected wetlands on a daily basis and not one Marxist Liberal greenie says a solitary word. I shudder to think of the fine imposed on a John Q Public type if he ever left plastic jugs in the protected wetlands.
I know, I know. I am being a big fat meanie. A real stick in the mud to boot. How can we ever expect them to pick up after themselves. It’s up to the adults to clean up the kids’ room and pay for the ride. Oh, I get it now. We just have to wait until they grow out of it. Yeah right. We should all just pay it forward.
What do you call a boomerang that doesn’t come back? A friggin stick.

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Michael R. Kesti

18 November 2014

Bill Tozer 18Nov14 10:16 PM
Diversity is the new affirmative action and is achieved through partiality and favoritism. Another term for them is “reverse discrimination” and it’s every bit as wrong as any kind of discrimination.

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Dave Smith

19 November 2014

Don, seems your lithium is needing a little re-adjustment….
“killed Ellens cat and dog and sent a person in a full military gilly suit with a gun to silence us…”
LOL!!!!!
This is one of the “leaders” of the antipot group? WOW!

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Don Bessee

19 November 2014

Dave Smith 239am. – No one who has seen the stills or the video find it a laughing matter.

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Russ Steele

19 November 2014

All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q

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Don Juan

19 November 2014

Sheriff Royal had the last word.
“We agree that Don is a total douche, but we want him on board our team anyway. There’s just enough nitwits in this county who have no idea how the game is played, and Don speaks to them in spades. With Don at the tip of the spear, our job is a whole lot easier.”
‘Nuff said.
http://www.ncscooper.com/?s=bessee

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Todd Juvinall

19 November 2014

I heard Terry Lamphier’s interview on KNCO today. I wish he would say, “Hey, I am innocent!” But he did not.

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George Rebane

19 November 2014

Re Climate Change – Russ Steele’s Sierra Foothill Commentary has a couple of interesting posts. One covers the latest blast from our local source of truth and justice, SBC’s Steven Frisch, excoriating AGW skeptics. The other is a commentary on a piece from SFGate by Jon Carroll, celebrating consensus science as the “trusted” salvation of the great unwashed, that beautifully illustrates the workings of the lightly-read, science-free liberal mind. Here are the links –
http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2014/11/19/still-waiting-for-some-sbc-climate-change-facts/
http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2014/11/19/an-un-thinking-thought-experiment/

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Todd Juvinall

19 November 2014

Since Frisch is not a “scientist” I take his input as simply opinion. He does not have the skill or smarts to know the difference in what he reads on the subject. He is just a political operative. So, let him spew. No biggee!

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George Rebane

19 November 2014

ToddJ 321pm – With all due respect, I have a another view of Mr Frisch’s opinions. While what you say is true, it is nevertheless a “biggee” because he is the voice of legions like him. Through him we are made aware of what people burdened by such deficiencies think, of how they act, and why they vote like they do. For us Mr Frisch is an accessible window into the sum and substance of the progressive mind which has been wreaking havoc across our land for at least forty years. It for that reason that we need pay attention to such effluent, else we know not how to avoid or cleanse ourselves of it.

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Russ Steele

19 November 2014

George@05:42 and Todd@03:21
We often read on Lefty Jeffie’s blog and YubaNet about how Steven Frisch is presenting his lefty philosophy to the Board of Supervisors and City Council Meetings, spreading his progressive havoc across the political spectrum in Nevada County. He thinks he is a “biggee” and that is of concern to everyone interested in the truth.

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Todd Juvinall

19 November 2014

George I don’t disagree with your assessment about the failed restauranteur Frisch. My point is that when a person on the right says anything about “global warming” Frisch and his ilk tar and feather the poor fellows with derision about their lack of science. Like Tea Party folks or even me. Yet when a liberal like Frisch speaks, we are supposed to take him seriously. He is a lib political activist paid to spread his crud all around the barnyard. He must be exposed for his lack of knowledge and education on the sciences.

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George Rebane

19 November 2014

RussS 603pm and ToddJ 619pm – No contention here, expose away!

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Michael R. Kesti

19 November 2014

Todd Juvinall 19Nov14 06:19 PM
I do not recall having previously heard that anybody is supposed to take Steve Frisch seriously. Rather than whimper about such an imagined requirement, Todd, I also recommend that you expose him. You might first consider that his debate skills (as well as his knowledge of science) may exceed yours, though, and that he can likely reveal your confirmation biases with ease. But, hey, I’d love to see you prove him (And me!) wrong.
Have at it, stud.

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Todd Juvinall

19 November 2014

Kesti, you never disappoint. Having debated people like you and Frisch over the years it became apparent that I was superior in those skills. I had many a fun time. I am sure you would also be embarrassed to the degree of personal injury to yourself after having been humiliated in combat. But hey stud, you can always try. What a hoot!

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Todd Juvinall

19 November 2014

George, I think some of this exchange was tongue and cheek. Already got Kesti’s undies in a wad. Next, the failed restauranteur/know it all.

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Don Bessee

19 November 2014

Its an honor to have the crabman make fun of me twice. I loved his creatures of October in the union recently. On a larger issue I saw an article reporting that the French actually denied the Russian Crew that is in training at their port access to the finished Mistral assault ship Monday! They let an ‘inspection delegation’ come on board Tuesday but no other access will be allowed. Its snowball day in hell. Is NATO growing a pair? The Poles just ordered an amazing amount of tank penetrator ammunition for their Leopard 2’s. Its great that we have defense minded chairmen taking control of Congress. I pray we do not pay for having no defense policy other than a spin reaction to events after the fact.

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Todd Juvinall

20 November 2014

Is this our Kesti?
Michael Kesti
Senior Software Engineer at GV, Inc.
Nevada City, California
Telecommunications
Education
Michigan Technological University

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fish

20 November 2014

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 November 2014 at 12:23 PM
I thought we weren’t going to go down this road? Outing posters is just so….jeffy.

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Todd Juvinall

20 November 2014

Not outing him as I simply googled his name and there it was. Jeffy was a much more dedicated sleuth than me.

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fish

20 November 2014

Jeffy was a much more dedicated sleuth than me.
Yes he is! But if you’re the town gossip and don’t need to get up and go to work everyday…..I guess you need something to do when you aren’t jamming chili fries into your gob.

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Todd Juvinall

20 November 2014

Kesti has been sniffing my butt for years. He has a superiority complex and I just don’t have much use for people like him. They think they are so much better than you and me. Besides, after all these years, I never looked for him on Google even though he used his own name. He is a grad from a tech school apparently and that makes him smarter than me I suppose.
When I was a high schooler I worked in a local market ROP program and delivered groceries to homes. I used to deliver to Dr. and Mrs. Hare out at their home on Bitney Sprongs. They were nice people, not pretentious like GVG employee Kesti. Also, my Dad built the first campus building for the Doctor at the Bitney property. I even worked as a hod carrier for the maintenance building Dad built there. I was 14. Aw those memories when I was just a stupipid kid.

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Michael R. Kesti

20 November 2014

Todd Juvinall 20Nov14 12:23 PM and 01:22 PM
Congratulations, Todd. You appear to have found my LinkedIn listing. I have no problem with that as you’ll find nothing in it, or anywhere else on the ‘net, that I am motivated to hide and it is public information.
The extent of my “sniffing your butt” amounts to pointing out when you have most spectacularly demonstrated a lack of class which I believe amounts to perhaps three or four occasions. I don’t recall having criticized your history nor calling you any names. Until yesterday I had not reflected on the extent of your intellect although there have been some that have been more candid concerning that topic. Other than you, nobody has claimed that I or those others have been in any way incorrect.

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Todd Juvinall

20 November 2014

Kesti, please go look in the mirror stud. You have no class. You are simply a person with a lack of intelligence and I therefore forgive your ignorance. I would suggest you take some etiquette classes and when ready, come back and I will see if you are able to compete. Doc Hare would be so embarrassed if he knew you. Go to a second class college does not make a person smart. What a hoot!

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Gregory

20 November 2014

“You (Todd) might first consider that his (Frisch) debate skills (as well as his knowledge of science) may exceed yours, though, and that he can likely reveal your confirmation biases with ease.”
Frisch’s science knowledge is as big a zero as Todd’s. Frisch is more of a literate trained monkey and can string words together that sound like science, but there is no understanding behind it.
There’s more science in building a house than in politics, tax fraud or drunk driving, but to the extent Todd gets climate science more correct is only because his political allies are closer to the truth than Frisch’s are, by accident.

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Todd Juvinall

21 November 2014

Greg is right. I actually debate AGW from a political POV because that is what is to me. Ever since I wrote my first OP_ED pointing that out in the 90’s I have debated it politically. I am not a scientist I am a home-builder/entrepreneur/political man. But I do think Greg has it right that the people I trust with that are the smart science people, have the truth about it. Frisch is a talking monkey and now we see that so is Kesti. But at least Kesti has class.

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fish

21 November 2014

Todd….I realize that it is said that, Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative but c’mon!
Kesti, please go look in the mirror stud. You have no class.
&
But at least Kesti has class.

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Todd Juvinall

21 November 2014

I know I know, I am just trying to spread chaos fish. LOL!

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Russ Steele

21 November 2014

Ebola Bio-weapon??
Thieves In Guinea Steal Ebola-Infected Blood Samples From Minibus.
Spreading this blood around in a crowed airport lounge, or a train platform could create havoc.

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Gregory

21 November 2014

“Greg has it right that the people I trust with that are the smart science people, have the truth about it.”
From Dick Feynman (altogether now):
“It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.”
and
“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”
It isn’t” about how smart any particular scientist is. Many of the smartest people on the planet resisted modern physics, too, because QM just didn’t fit the science framework they’d constructed in their head to make sense of what *had been the common wisdom of the time, and they followed much the same pattern that climate alarmists have been taking when faced with inconvenient data that doesn’t fit.
It comes down to “We need better data that will show what we know must be there!!!” But other scientists, some by accident, some because they suspected other mechanisms, have identified numerous problems with the alarmist scenarios and alternate frameworks that more efficiently describe what has been happening, including aerosols, clouds and solar activity, that are being fought tooth and nail because they mean we’re not facing planetary destruction; and not everyone thinks that’s good news.

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Gregory

21 November 2014

Fish, Todd just flings it into the fan by the handful and delights in the splatter.
Todd, you really should stop as you are the one who ends up wearing most of it.

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Walt

21 November 2014

Just wait till you need to register THIS new weapon in the making.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/james-bond-inspired-laser-watch-burn-4666984
Seems the laser “firearm” is not far off. A new use for those lithium batteries.

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fish

21 November 2014

Posted by: Walt | 21 November 2014 at 01:51 PM
Nice going Walt…..guess what my nine year old wants as a stocking stuffer this Christmas?

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Todd Juvinall

21 November 2014

Gregory, yes I should take your advice but hey, then life would be too boring! So, on I go. LOL!

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fish

21 November 2014

Sure Greg…you talk pretty big now. Just wait until I perfect my Phlogiston detector…..than we’ll see who’s Mr. Science!

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Walt

21 November 2014

Don’t blame me,, Your supposed to be the adult and view everything before showing the young ones what’s on the screen. Look at the bright side. He has only made one so far.
Now turn the kid’s head before reading on…. Some guy built a laser Gatling gun that can be found. I hope you don’t have cats…

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fish

21 November 2014

Some guy built a laser Gatling gun that can be found. I hope you don’t have cats…
For a laser gatling gun it might be worth getting some…briefly!

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fish

21 November 2014

Well…the democrat motive is clear!
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/11-overflow/20141121_decree.jpg

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Joe Koyote

21 November 2014

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!! The House Intelligence Select committee on Benghazi issued its final report. No misdeeds, no coverup, no mistakes, no nothing.. everybody involved did as good as they could under the circumstances. After two years and twenty hearings/events… zip nadda.. Just goes to prove that you can fool some of the people all the time.

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Walt

21 November 2014

Leave it to JoeK to make Ambassador Stevens nothing more than landfill right here in Nevada Co. I Know,, “what Diff. does it make now?” Hildabeast got away with murder, didn’t have to finish her testimony because of a bump on the head. It just wouldn’t be right to subject the (ha)”lady*” to such an inquisition. It sure would cut into her time to stump for President.
Nope,, the Navy SEALS that were there have been threatened with incarceration if they told all they know, and name names. Nope,, that just can’t be publicized in the name of justice.
Political livelihoods would be jeopardized. We just can’t have that… Right Joe?
Hell! It might make “O” look bad. Just where was he Joe? Where was Hillary when that 4AM call came in? No one is say’n.
Yup, What diff. does it make? The truth won’t bring Ted back. There is no real point in holding anyone accountable. ( according to Joe.)
But HAY!! Lois lier’s emails have been found! And right after the election no less.
OK Joe,, off to Mother Jones and scrounge to marginalize that news. Maybe MoveOn??(nothing to see here)
I sure hope an Obama legal illegal get the job you were hoping for. ( At least you didn’t get caught up in that MJ trimigrnet bust. When will we hear the sob story about that just being a gray aria MMJ operation and all that dope was for the Grannies and Gramps in the bay aria rest homes?)

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Michael R. Kesti

21 November 2014

Walt 21Nov14 10:25 PM
I might be wrong, Walt, but I think you have misunderstood Joe’s comment. It seems to me that he is ridiculing the committee rather than praising it and your rant seems inappropriate.

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George Rebane

22 November 2014

MichaelK 1050pm – Thanks for the clarification; along with Mr Tozer, I was equally fooled.

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Walt

22 November 2014

Joe shedding his Lefty coat to “ridicule” an “O” and Co. coverup? Oh,,Yaaa… That will be the day.

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Michael R. Kesti

22 November 2014

Well, how about it, Joe? Will you please summarize the intent of your 21Nov4 09:58 PM comment in terms as unambiguous as possible?

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Gregory

22 November 2014

Speaking of those with superiority complexes, one of the biggest egos in county government was Dennis Cassella, before he retired 12 years ago, now enjoying a $58K plus benefits pension. He and the usual suspects (including Steven “One for the Road” Frisch) have gone apoplectic at Pelline’s over that The Union column that, horrors!, is pro 2nd Amendment. Cassella writes
“I am waiting for a Supreme Court that can read the Second Amendment, all of it, in context.
Letters such as the subject one, re-enforce my belief that reasoning with those who will not hear is a waste of my time. Norm’s piece did not change a single mind. I respond by voting for Gabby Gifford with my checkbook.
Dennis, the Roberts court really did read the whole thing, and the current settled law had been so settled in the literature that it’s referred to as “the standard model”. Because a well-regulated militia really is necessary for the security of a Free State, the right of the People to own and carry weapons shall not be infringed… what part of that do you think isn’t inherent in the 2nd’s text?
BTW, back when Dennis was a county mucky-muck, he was doing his best to run the airport into the ground. I recall one of his finer moments, several days after a winter snow ended, county roads had been cleared over and over and over, but the runways were still waiting for their first clearing (despite the county getting big payments from the state to keep the runway cleared for distressed aircraft as the nearest airport to the west of Donner Pass). Cassella’s retort was that all the snow wasn’t cleared from the Rood Center parking lots, either.
What a guy.

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Walt

22 November 2014

Seems JoeK is nowhere to be found M Kesti. I guess he forgot that one of the Benghazi
victims (of their own government) was a local.And no one has been accountable for the terrorist attack, or the ones that allowed it to happen, and “revised” the happenings.
Recall how “O” stated “there may be some attacks we will just have to absorb.” ( that means do jack shit about.)
In a morbid way, I hope Hillary does run for Pres. She will have to explain why she tucked tail and ran. The head bump excuse just isn’t going to cut it. She will have to justify here resignation when the heat got turned up. A nice convenient way of getting away from the questioning. Yet she was the job of President? ( and there are plenty of people stupid enough to vote for her. The same stupid people that got sold on Obummercare.)

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Walt

23 November 2014

Some lite reading for JoeK. Some say the the findings are “crap”, and are far from convinced.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/23/lindsey-graham-house-benghazi-report-is-full-of-crap-video/
Nope, not a “smidgen of corruption”.
Still busy trying to catch the roadrunner to respond? Better start signing in as “Wile E. Coyote”.

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Russ Steele

30 November 2014

This is a little bit of old news, but worth noting:
IS IMMIGRATION LAWLESSNESS A PRECEDENT? OBAMA IS STUMPED!
George Stephanopolous asks Barack Obama the question that we posed here: if Obama doesn’t have to enforce the immigration laws, then why can’t a future Republican president decide not to enforce any laws of which he disapproves, like, say, the tax on capital gains?
Link: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/is-immigration-lawlessness-a-precedent-obama-is-stumped.php
Amazingly, Obama has no answer. He stumbles and fumbles like a kid who is called on in class and hasn’t done his homework: Republican presidents obey the Constitution. Unlike him.

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