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The Berlin Wall came down 25 years ago today.  Many people are celebrating that milestone in human history, but Vladimir Putin rues the day as the beginning of greatest human tragedy of the 20th century which ended the horrors of the USSR and its spreading of international communism.  As a young lieutenant stationed in Germany in the early 1960s I took a weekend leave with Jo Ann to visit a divided and tense Berlin.  Because of my job and security clearances – at the time the S-2 (intelligence officer) of our only STRAC nuclear capability artillery battalion in Europe – we had to travel on the daily diplomatic train from Frankfurt to Berlin.  By the Potsdam treaty the train was a rolling piece of US sovereign territory that was sealed before entering East Germany and again unsealed in the western zone of Berlin.  The trip across the leading exemplar of communism’s workers’ paradise (the USSR and other places were much worse) was an eye-opener for those who had just read about what communism does to a people.  In Berlin we went to the Brandenburg Gate and stood looking across The Wall; the difference between the two sides of the same city was stunning.  (It would be another 25 years until from the same spot President Reagan would demand, “Mr Gorbachov, tear down this wall!”)  While most visitors to West Berlin were allowed to tour East Berlin on busses; because of my status, I was not.  The most chilling part of the visit was Checkpoint Charlie where a platoon of our mainline battle tanks faced their equivalents in the Red Army, separated by about 100 yards with their leveled main guns pointed at each other.  WW3 was literally a trigger pull away in those days.  It was quite a weekend.

Today President Obama finally admits to a very peculiar responsibility of his administration in the Democrats’ devastating loss last Tuesday.  On ‘Face the Nation’ he finally acknowledged that his party had taken a drubbing, and as its leader he was culpable, saying, “… the buck stops right here at my desk.”  But the problem for the nation is that the man doesn’t understand that his demonstrated policies were rejected on their substance.  Instead he believes it has only been a problem in communicating his “good ideas” to the American people – in other words, he didn’t put enough lipstick on that herd of pigs that he and his let loose on the country.

[update]  Congressman Xavier Becerra (D-CA) on Fox News Sunday demonstrated the utter contempt in which Democrats hold their own constituents’ intellectual capacity.  Reporting on Friday’s lunch at the White House, Becerra was asked about what topics were discussed around the table.  He said that because Speaker Boehner raised the comprehensive immigration issue with regards to Obama’s threatened executive order to end-run of Congress, that there was no time for the President to talk about anything else – Obama took the entire allocated time to talk about immigration reform.

‘Allocated time’??!!  Yes, you see according to Becerra their lunch had a time limit because Obama had a scheduled Pentagon presentation by high ranking military officers for right after the lunch.  Utter bullshit!  When you have the newly and historically elected leaderships of a heretofore multi-year dysfunctional Congress assembled specifically to come together and talk about the way forward for the next two years, the Commander-in-Chief can and should have his row of four-star generals standing at parade rest outside the dining room door with their pocketed powerpoints for as long as it takes – even if the meeting needs to go on until 1AM the next morning.  To tell the nation’s Democrat voters – no Republican would be dumb enough to swallow such crap – that this important meeting was time limited because of a previously scheduled military briefing simply boggles any reasonable mind so exposed (which, of course, excludes the sheeple who voted for and continue to worship their messiah).

Given these shaky beginnings, I don’t see anything possible for the next two years except for the Repubs to do everything they can to stop the business-as-usual from the White House as soon as possible.

[10nov14 update]  Harvey Silvergate in ‘Liberals Are Killing the Liberal Arts’ brings us up to date on the latest efforts to shut down free speech and discussion of issues in our universities have become little more than conclaves of collectivist thought and socialist propaganda.  Silvergate opens with –

On campuses across the country, hostility toward unpopular ideas has become so irrational that many students, and some faculty members, now openly oppose freedom of speech. The hypersensitive consider the mere discussion of the topic of censorship to be potentially traumatic. Those who try to protect academic freedom and the ability of the academy to discuss the world as it is are swimming against the current. In such an atmosphere, liberal-arts education can’t survive.

He then goes into some detail on a truly unbelievable albeit fully documented conference at Smith College named “Challenging the Ideological Echo Chamber: Free Speech, Civil Discourse and the Liberal Arts”.  The principal exchanges (including the now de rigueur use of ‘Trigger Warnings’) and their aftermath at both Smith and Holyoke illustrate the long-known ‘freedom and liberty are only one generation deep’, and could have taken place at any of the party educational meetings that workers were required to attend in the USSR.  Silvergate concludes –

Hypersensitivity to the trauma allegedly inflicted by listening to controversial ideas approaches a strange form of derangement—a disorder whose lethal spread in academia grows by the day. What should be the object of derision, a focus for satire, is instead the subject of serious faux academic discussion and precautionary warnings. For this disorder there is no effective quarantine. A whole generation of students soon will have imbibed the warped notions of justice and entitlement now handed down as dogma in the universities.

[11nov14 update]  Gas prices are down, and guess who wants to assign credit to whom?  It's the lamebrained lackeys of the same Messiah who promised to raise energy prices through the roof, worked his tail off to accomplish same, continues to impede developments to lower energy costs, and promises to also transform that part of our economy.  But fracking on private lands (government lands are a no-no) has produced a surfeit of gas and oil to the extent that huge tankers now lie at anchor in bays across the world, used as floating storage tanks because the land-based ones are full.  Isn't central planning wonderful?

[12nov14 update]  Germans land instrumented probe on comet.  This is a big deal that has been ten years in the making.  Mission controllers in Darmstadt announced that the spacecraft Rosetta, orbiting in formation with comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, had successfully launched and now landed its probe Philae on the comet's surface.  We are now in great anticipation awaiting the first picture taken by Philae from the comet's surface.  As a lifelong worker in the control & estimation field (I am a California professional engineer in the Control Theory field, and a former DoD 'missile scientist'), my hat is off to the engineers who calculated and controlled the very complex sun-orbital maneuvers Rosetta executed during its ten-journey to 'sync up' with the comet, and then precisely aim, release, and control Philae to a soft landing in a 500m diameter area.  The last worry is that Philae will land on the edge of a boulder and tip over, thereby screwing up the lander part of the Rosetta mission.  Realtime control is not possible since the whole thing is taking place about 26 light-minutes from earth, so the problem is being solved locally by an onboard Bayesian brain.  (more here)

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95 responses to “Ruminations – 9nov14 (updated 12nov14)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    President Obama lives in an imaginary world where he controls the levers, like the man behind the curtain in The Wizard of Oz. He does not know how to deal with the real world, where events are not under his control. He keeps moving the levers and nothing that he desires happens, all the while the real world just keep intruding in his imaginary world. When the levers do not work he acts like a spoiled child, pretending it was some one else fault for the failure.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    BTW, Todd Juvinall has a nice commemorative on the Wall’s anniversary.
    http://sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Speaking of displaying utter contempt which Democrats hold their constituents intellectual capacity: Looks like more of the same o’ same old Dirty Harry. I am so dumb, I actually thought the Senate was a legislative body with its rich history of debates and deliberations. Recall the Daniel Webster/John C Calhoun elegance and passion in expounding their viewpoints before passing legislation.
    One thing I can say about Harry Palms Reid is that he is consistent. He will be beating that dead horse from here to Kingdom-come.. But, there is a new twist presented less than 48 hours after the election. The Evil Twins are cult leaders!
    As the Rotund One would say, “You can’t make this stuff up. Yikes!
    http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-doj-irs-secretly-probing-koch-brothers-for-democrats

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  4. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Obama: Too extreme for America, too extreme for Nevada County.

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  5. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    It’s ironic that those who celebrate the ending of a 40 plus year cold war with the symbol of removal of the Berlin wall are the same people who want to build walls in our own country and support the illegal walls in Israel.
    Shouldn’t liberty and freedom be for all people?

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Good lLord, Ben, you have done gone off the tracks. Speaking of illegal(s)….. Nah, having too much fun tonight to entertain your comedy. Plate is just too full. Catch you on the flip side, good buddy.

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Thanks for the plug George!
    RillT, Ben Emery is just kidding. Isn’t that right Ben? You really are just funning us?

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  8. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    No Todd there are actually people in our country who want to put up walls with armed guards. An the walls in Israel have been found illegal in international court of law.
    International Court Rules Against Israel’s Wall
    International Court of Justice
    8 July 2004
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/international-court-rules-against-israels-wall/1743

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  9. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    Ben are you dumb?
    The walls in Berlin were to keep people from leaving the leftist workers paradise.
    The walls that are needed along the U.S. Southern boarder are to keep people from enerting.
    Oh by the way I hope your cancer treatment is going well and you make a full recovery.

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  10. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    I meant entering…….

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    good morning Brother Ben. Cream in your coffee….yet? Walls, walls. The Wailing Wall? The Great Wall of China to keep the hordes out. The Berlin Wall to keep the hordes in. The wall around New Folsom Prison with armed guards…guards with guns, like real scary lookin’ guns that go bang, bang. All we have is a stupid fence to protect our sovereignty. And evil Border Patrol agents that carry real guns that go bang, bang. There ought to be a law!
    At least Cuba has a wall of water around it to keep people in, just like Frisco’s tourist attraction know as Alcatraz, aka, The Rock.
    Thanks for the laughs. Glad to see you have retained your sense of humor cause you were really getting to be downright lead ballon for the past few years. Everything is so wrong, so heavy, so unfun. Glad you finally got a new perspective on life and are beginning to stop and smell the coffee. Life is good and remember it takes more muscles to frown that to smile. Thanks again for the chuckles you provided last night. You rock.
    Well, I best scadaddle before Dr. Rebane tells us to take it to the sandbox. Take care my brotha from another motha. Peace out bro, dig yer new fro. Big hugs and kisses.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I got a real good belly laugh as well BillT. No one could really mean what Ben Emery said. Heck, I went to South Central (Watts) once with a black friend who wanted me to meet his family. All the houses had walls! Ebery door and window was secured with bars! I guess they wanted to keep people OUT! Anyway, Ben Emery has to realize the security and safety of people is paramount on the planet. Doesn’t he?

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  13. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    I enjoyed reading about Cold War Germany. Thank you for sharing. When reading your piece and thinking back on the history of the time, it seems that there was a stability and a lasting peace during the Cold War. There was no screwing around by any country…they knew that either the USA or the USSR would pound them if they got out of line. Philosophical question: Is the world better off after the Cold War?

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  14. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Everyone,
    So you don’t find it ironic that those who celebrate the Berlin Wall coming down want their own walls put in place with armed guards?

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George, regarding your addendum. I was also shocked at the CinC’s attitude during their meeting that he called. It was Obama that wanted that meeting. It simply shows his hubris. Surrounding himself with winners! Harry Reid looked as if he was ready for the “nut house”. His facial expressions were classic “pissed off”! Boehner was cool as were the rest of the R’s.
    Obama is not even a “Clinton” pragmatist by any stretch. He is a narcissist. I actually heard him described as such on a few programs this week. The people of the country told me a couple of things.
    1. Those that voted wanted to get America out of the hands of the democrats.
    2.Those that stayed home did so because they were sick of the democrats and thier broken promises.
    Republicans showed the balls to turn our to vote and the libs/dems got a taste of the people’s dissatisfaction with their agenda. Simple as that.

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  16. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Ben Emery 10Nov14 07:40 AM
    Do you lock your home’s doors and windows when away and/or while you sleep?

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    This just in…….
    Obamacare architect admits that democratic voters (read ……stupid voters) are the nations most “valuable resource”…..for with them we can accomplish anything!
    http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/09/caught-camera-obamacare-architect-admits-deceiving-americans-pass-law/

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Morning Fish. I suppose that is why not a single R voted for it, nary a one. Written by non elected folks to boot. Talk about stupid. Dems passing something they have not read? At least the R’s weren’t that stupid.
    Paul Krugman has his mangina all twisted up this morning. The Supreme Court is going to hear the case about that clause with those 5 little words in it about State Exchanges and subsidizes. Guess the stupid ones elected to Congress should have at least read what the non-elected put in there before giving it a aye. Krugman is blaming it all on “corrupt” judges, not stupid Dems if you can believe that. Beam me up, Scottie.
    Ok, time to tie this into the topic. Remember when Botox Nancy said if the R’s put up a wall they would scale it, pole vault over it (please don’t try to visualize The Sagging Botox Babe catapulting upside down going over the wall), parachute over the wall, etc?
    Well, that worked out so well for my intellectually challenged friends on the Left that they got walled in by Obamacare in the mid-terms and had no where to run, though run away and flee they sure tried. Bless their little hearts. Kids say and do the cutest things. It was an exercise in fertility. They got walled in. Like cats in a gunny sack.
    Oh, me stupid, me berry berry stupid. I forget to throw an anchor around my neck when I breached the sea wall and jumped in the ocean like my smart friends of the liberal affiliation.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    re BenE’s 740am – I sincerely believe that observation about liberals not being stupid, but just having bad luck when they try to think. A recent examination of liberal tenets was assembled here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/07/liberal-logic-always-remarkable-and-harmful.html
    But it is a bit astounding that the progressive mind cannot parse the difference between barriers to prevent inmates from escaping and barriers designed to keep undesirables from entering. To them, seeing a wall with armed guards is all the same – we could argue that they are incapable of nuanced logic (which is true), but in the case of such walls, there is no need for nuance, their existential difference screams to be recognized.
    That this mental syndrome is widespread, nay, ubiquitous among progressives I call your attention to another embodiment of it that involves the transfer of funds that was exposed here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/09/the-liberal-mind-giving-and-receiving.html
    I will also direct readers’ attention to a piece that BenE wrote for RR over a year and a half ago that bears on a related topic –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/02/wealth-creation-distribution-a-progressives-view.html

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    George,
    No, in your case you give funds in the hope of receiving some personal benefit to help stroke your massive ego.
    Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 07 September 2010 at 06:07 AM

    I’ll give fat boy his due! He is consistent flagrant asshattery!

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  21. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George,
    It all depends on which side of the wall a person finds themselves on.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I attended the tribute to Orson Hansen yesterday at the NC Elks. There was probably a thousand people! I would suggest that when a lib dies, maybe if he/she is lucky, three people show up. Orson and his family have had a huge impact in this county and many people owe their livelihood to the Hansens. It was a fitting tribute to a very nice man and I wish all my prayers for the family are heard by the LORD>
    Rest in peace!

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 927am – I can’t believe that obviously false statement is all you are capable of. The nature and purpose of a defended wall has nothing whatsoever to do with the side on which anyone finds themselves. Their fortunes may be affected by such positioning depending on whether they see the wall as a benefit or a barrier to their aspirations. But none of this impacts the nature and purpose, or the legitimacy of such a barrier.
    America’s southern border is an ineffective barrier to illegal entry, and America has every right to construct and maintain a border that supports the enforcement of our constitutional mandate for securing our sovereign nation-state. As long as America and other nations still hue to the Westphalian principles of sovereignty (that has been the underpinning of world order for over three centuries), then walls to contain or exclude are all legitimate constructions by independent states. America’s liberal traditions and values cause us to judge harshly other nations’ walls built to forcefully contain their citizens, but that has no bearing on our building barriers to control entry into our country.
    That you and yours cannot distinguish such beneficial and harmful purposes is yet another indication that we have passed the tipping point, and that hope for discovering an acceptable middle ground has all but disappeared.

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  24. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Todd Juvinall 10Nov14 10:03 AM
    Had you omitted the line concerning, “when a lib dies,” Todd, your comment would have been admirably respectful despite being inappropriately located. That line’s inclusion exemplifies the lack of class that you so frequently demonstrate.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Kesti, Since you don’t know Mr. Hamsen and his connections, I will let your slight pass. You are a total of one. I could care less about your description of my “class”.

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  26. RL Crabb Avatar

    That’s our Toddy. Dumber than gravel.

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  27. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    During the Rodney King riots in LA, some toney neighborhoods in the hills (think Beverly) barricaded access to their homes to keep trouble out. One resident, looking at the wondrous firepower that emerged from the closets, was quoted saying something like “When the revolution came I always thought I’d be on the other side of the barricade.”
    Ferguson is going to get ugly without some real leadership from folks who have been fanning the flames.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Yep dumber than gravel, that’s me. Pot head and druggie? Cartoonists?

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Gregory, once the GJ issues all hell will break loose. The AG will be in a pickle.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Too sweet. Just got back from the Doc’s office. Think I bruised a rib laughing so hard. Bad news is my co-pay shot up to 15 bucks, but still no deductible. Good news is nothing was broken as a direct result of my dear sweet Brother’s improv. Well, good news maybe. It all depends on which side of the wall you “find yourself”. Trying to find myself used to be a full time job. I know. I tried it once. Now I am much more content. Feel so much better since I stopped reading psychobabble, stop getting in touch with my inner child, and listening to all that gloom and doom and negativity being drummed into our heads by the looney left. Sure, America is the reason for all my troubles today. “And the beat goes on. Drums keep pounding a rhythm in my brain.” Sung by the liberal intellectual giant Cher…. so true….for her.
    What a glum lot. Figured out the problem the left has with walls on our southern border. First, it might make it more difficult to break in our Nation illegally. Second, as a direct result of making it harder for illegals to illegally enter the US, that in and of itself would make it harder for illegals to vote illegally. Makes sense to me. See, I am catching on. Glad I took the smart pills the doc gave me.
    Now, excuse me. Gotto go wrap up the rib cage. Will somebody please make my Brother stop. It hurts! He is killing me.

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  31. RL Crabb Avatar

    Yeah, Toddy, I did some drugs in my day. I destroyed enough brain cells to become the village idiot. Your ignorance appears to be from natural causes. Geez, it’s a miracle you can spell your name.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Crabb, [please, man you are cracking me up. While you were in the dens of backrooms in SF during the 60’s finding your navel and testing the chemicals, I was raising a family and had 45 employees. If anyone has a problem with their noggin it is you. Now go to your room and contemplate your belly bitton. Too funny!

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  33. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George,
    My point isn’t about specifics or justifications but rather about irony. Anyone who supports building a wall has their reasons and the legitimacy of those reasons depends on which side of the way you find yourself on.
    “The nature and purpose of a defended wall has nothing whatsoever to do with the side on which anyone finds themselves.”
    It has everything to do with side of the wall your on. If you are a population suppressed/ depressed for whatever reason(Economic, Political)and are trying to rectify or get out of it a wall looks the same no matter what the justification. Just look at the justifications of those who support walls, it usually has a common theme of security from the unwanted who are generally poor and or suppressed.
    So all those kingdoms that had high walls and guards to keep the rabble/ peasants in their place while securing the high standard of living made possible off the backs of those very same peasants.
    This is another perfect example of where you side with authority over liberty/ freedom of average everyday people. The privileged have the right to protect/secure their wealth.
    Have you ever studied John Ball and the Peasant Revolt? Check it out, fascinating history and is really is the birthplace to modern grassroots activism/ democracy.
    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/peasants_revolt.htm
    No name calling here but a true observation-
    You support economic liberty and freedom of capital while at the same time supporting a very strict narrow social legal structure that doesn’t support liberty/ freedom of average working class people. A very predictable and stable society is what you seek, which makes for a very stable economy. I get it but just disagree.

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  34. RL Crabb Avatar

    Yep, and never voted for a sweetheart junk bond that cost the county millions and never went belly-up on my mortgage either. And what exactly is a belly bitton? Sounds kinky.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 203pm – (Hope springs eternal) Let me take another tack. In this discussion we look at the nature and purpose of a defended wall from the perspective of its builders, which in the present case is the US building a wall to keep illegal aliens out. It is our wall and our purpose, and it will be so recognized by thinking Americans who pay for and maintain the wall. Our wall does not have to satisfy the social needs of all foreign countries that find themselves on the other side; it has to satisfy only our interests. If it doesn’t, then we won’t build it.
    Your arguments always go far afield in judging all social initiatives from the point of what you consider global justice. If it doesn’t satisfy all your requirements for global justice, then you advise against America doing it. I am not so encumbered, and believe that a strong and sovereign America will again promote the most socially just world possible.
    (Ergo, Mexicans should look to their government to promote social justice on their side of the border. If that’s not possible, then they should revolt and set up a new government that will. But America acting as a safety valve for corrupt Hispanic societies does not provide us a future in which we can sustain our values, mores, and QoL.)

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  36. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Crabb, let it go man. You are a obviously living a time warp. I could care less that you don’t like me. There are many who do and I am a happy man. You carry old hatreds and that is really not healthy. Seek some mental help and stay off the stuff. What a hoot!
    Regarding Ben Emery’s position on “fences”. It is clear to me he is an open border person. A “world” citizen man. That ios fine as long as he is not n power it really doesn’t matter. The election last week put the “close the border” people in charge so the American people have spoken.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Editor’s note: While our local hard-right, anti-(fill in the blank) ideologues mumble “what ifs” about gas prices, this morning’s S.F. Chronicle is writing that the “price is right to gas up and hit the outdoors,” including communities like ours. That’s good news for our tourism economy. In fact, our local hard-wing ideologues could “gas up,” hit the road and soak up some “S.F. values” with their families this week for roughly $25 or less one way (and a little more for their gas-guzzling RVs), according to the article. We gassed up for less than $3 a gallon in the foothills on Sunday.
    “The price of gas was down to $2.75 a gallon Sunday at Sam’s Club in Sacramento. It was $2.83 at the costco in San Jose, $3.01 at the Costsco in South San Francisco, and $3.09 at the Econo in Berkeley,” The Chronicle’s tom Stienstra writes.
    “Nobody is putting his or her life on hold anymore because of the price of gasoline.
    “Every price rise or drop of 50 cents per gallon is equivalent to spending or saving respectively, about $3.50 per 100 miles, depending on what you drive.
    “What does that mean for you?

    It means I know a little boy who will have a lot more discretionary cash for chili fry purchases!
    See jeffy….sometimes god does answer prayers!

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ben, what the heck are you talking about? Any citizen is free to move about this country as they please, no matter what their station in life. It’s called freedom and liberty. US citizens can leave and return to the US anytime. I know. Once had a US border guard glare at my low life appearance hitchhiking down from the wilds of Northern British Columbia and he finally said “We have to let someone like you in, you are a US citizen.” The guy I was hitchhiking with was not a citizen and not allowed in. The customs agent leered at me and I could tell he was disgusted that he had to let someone like moi walk across the border and set my feet on sacred ground.
    Ben, you would love Canada. Good wages, liberalism is rampant, and Fox News is banned is most places. Very progressive, very green, very civil and polite, and not too crowded. What more can I say except any country that would deport Amy Goodman is A-ok in my book. And no fences! You do need a passport now to visit, which makes it difficult for poor Americans who have no ID to visit. No papers, no entry. Harsh, but polite. Canada is free to let in whom they please and reject whom they please. It’s called sovereignty. Even our beloved United Nations accepts the right of all sovereign nations on earth to protect and police it’s borders.
    Next time I go to Canada I will tell them I am a Citizen of North America and see if that works. Bet it falls short.

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  39. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Quote from Ben – “If you are a population suppressed/ depressed for whatever reason(Economic, Political)and are trying to rectify or get out of it a wall looks the same no matter what the justification.”
    Ben – America is not trying to put a wall around Mexico. Folks coming from or through Mexico can go to a lot of other places. Cuba for one. The workers paradise. And folks come legally from Mexico every day. You are woefully ignorant of the barriers the East Germans put around their country. They machine-gunned folks in the back trying to flee. And very few folks were allowed back and forth through check points. Try actually going to one of the many border crossings with Mexico and see the thousands that come and go daily. Heck, there were kids coming from Mexico at one time being picked up by American school buses and taken daily to American schools. The lefties tried to cover it up.
    Illegals come here and live primarily to break our laws. It was their intent as they came across the border and remains their intent as long as they reside here. We either enforce the laws or we admit we do not intend to uphold our Constitutional right to equal protection. You can’t have it both ways.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ben, is your glass ever half full? I believe you have never been happy concerning America. At least Michelle Obama became proud of the US for the first time. A suicide bomber walked into a school in Nigeria the other day and killed 50 school boys. That’s 50. There, take that tragedy on which should keep you busy bringing world wide social Justice. You never have one positive thing to say. Everything is wrong. Capitalism is wrong, wages are wrong, our political system is wrong, our air is wrong. Have you ever once looked around and told yourself, “it ain’t perfect, but it ain’t bad”????? I am believing any brief moments of contentment you have had were fleeting and like trying to catch the wind. Just wear black and stay in perpetual mourning over injustice on Planet Earth. Hey, was that lady in red who got tear gassed from Turkey or Egypt? I forget. But looking at all those murdered over there on a daily basis, I think she had it easy.
    Yeah, but….yeah but…..silly yeahbut, Trix are for kids.

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  41. Russ Steele Avatar

    In reference to the 10 Nov Update;
    The House Science, Space, and Technology Committee sent a letter to the head of the National Science Foundation (NSF) on Monday, demanding answers about the origins of the nearly $1 million taxpayer-funded project to track “misinformation” on Twitter.
    The Truthy project, being conducted by researchers at Indiana University, is under investigation for targeting political commentary on Twitter. The project monitors “suspicious memes,” “false and misleading ideas,” and “hate speech,” with a goal of one day being able to automatically detect false rumors on the social media platform.
    The web service has been used to track tweets using hashtags such as #tcot (Top Conservatives on Twitter), and was successful in getting accounts associated with conservatives suspended, according to a 2012 book co-authored by the project’s lead researcher, Filippo Menczer, a professor of Informatics and Computer Science at Indiana University.
    Menczer has also said that Truthy monitored tweets using #p2 (Progressive 2.0), but did not discuss any examples of getting liberal accounts suspended in his book.

    It appears that only conservative tweets are considered to have misinformation. Now the left want Google to stop indexing skeptical climate change academic papers. They are trying to control the flow of information, especially information that they cannot refute with a cogent argument of their own, like the fact there has been no global warming for 18 years and one month.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Speaking of censorship, one of Pelline’s Lickspittles wrote in response to his gasoline note, “The right wing were quick to blame Obama for High gas prices, who do they thank when it’s low?”
    My friend at “sierrafoothillsretort” wrote a one word reply that Pelline has apparently decided to block: Fracking.

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  43. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Well – ‘The project monitors….false and misleading ideas….’
    Such as:
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/11/10/obamacare-architect-admits-deceiving-americans-pass-law
    This is an admission of what many of us knew. It is only one of many smoking guns (how many do we need?) that the left is evil.
    Where is the law? Where is morality? I suppose that since we are careening off the edge of the cataract, the law of the jungle is taking hold. And folks wonder why so many fire arms are being purchased.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd writes”RE:Todd writes:
    ” There was probably a thousand people! I would suggest that when a lib dies, maybe if he/she is lucky, three people show up.”
    When they had a memorial for Utah Phillips at Pioneer Park several thousand showed up. Also Sam Dardick was dearly loved and had a hube memorial. Do you actually think about what you write? Is there a brain involved in the process?

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  45. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery, prove it. You are simply making it up. Is there a brain in your head? Appears not.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Back to Cuba, briefly. From the BBC
    Trafficked humans not a gift from Cuba – While Cuban doctors are being celebrated for their Ebola work in Africa, few are looking at the circumstances under which those doctors are being sent, argues Mary Anastasia O’Grady of the Wall Street Journal.
    The doctors are not a gift from Cuba, O’Grady says, but are trafficked human beings. According to DW, Germany’s international broadcaster, Havana earns some $7.6b (£4.8b) annually from its export of healthcare workers – money that is supposed to go to Cuban workers’ salaries, but is withheld by the state.
    “Cuban doctors are not forced at gunpoint to become expat slaves, but they are given offers they cannot refuse,” states the article. “As Cuban doctor Antonio Guedes, who now lives in exile in Madrid, told the German DW, ‘Whoever does not cooperate may lose his job, or at least his position or his son will not get a place at university.’ As with the workers in Curacao, the regime keeps healthcare workers under constant surveillance and confiscates their passports. Something about that doesn’t sound voluntary.”

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  47. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen – Has anyone considered what profit will accrue from this mudslinging match with Todd?
    BillT 407am – Good point Mr Tozer. The progressives’ celebration of all attempts at making communist tyranny work goes almost a century. If these people didn’t vote, it would be amusing to see how they are continually beguiled by one dictator after another to come and visit their workers’ paradise. And then come back to America extolling the virtues of the ‘socialism’ that was showcased. This Kool-Aid continues to be popular year after year.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George, I was shocked that these liberals would attack me personally. Sorry, I guess I just set them off.

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  49. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “when a lib dies: Toad: Why do you ooze with hate toward those with whom you politically disagree? All of your diatribes seem to be directed at people rather than their ideas; “those scumbag libs”. Does this make you feel better about yourself in light of things you can’t understand? It is a natural reaction to attack the messenger because in degrading the messenger you invalidate the message. This is probably due to your ignorance. Since you are unable to rationally discuss ideas, your responses turn to personal attacks. You seem to view your fellow Americans with whom you disagree politically with the same disdain as terrorists. How sad. You would have made a good brownshirt.

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  50. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    So I guess the irony is lost on you guys?
    Keep on celebrating the downing of one wall while promoting the rise of different walls.

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