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[Recall the little dustup between two Union editorial board members Ms Cheryl Cook and Mr Norm Sauer that was introduced here in 'Deconstructing America' that resulted in Ms Cook's resignation from that board?  Well, all the dust has yet to settle as we read Letters to the Editor in the 7nov14 Union (here).  There we see that one or two residual burrs remain under the liberals' blanket regarding Mr Sauer's reply.  Today Ms Judith McCarrick's letter is an almost embarrassing yet important expose of more misdirected meanderings of muddled minds.  Nevertheless, this kind of instructive voices should never be stilled, and The Union is to be lauded for bending backward to provide us such a 'balanced' voice which writes -

I was surprised to read Norm Sauer’s attack upon his fellow Editorial Board member at The Union, Cheryl Cook, and was appalled at his lack of civility and respect. … While he vehemently defends the sanctity of the Constitution, he finds it acceptable to use words such as “rant,” “diatribe,” “contempt” and “destruction” to belittle Ms. Cook’s own First Amendment rights. Hers was a thoughtful discussion of issues that Americans of conscience are concerned about in our current climate of violence, a climate that the framers of our Constitution could never have anticipated. Mr. Sauer lectures Ms. Cook about “our God-given inalienable (sic) rights that all men are created equal,” when, in truth we know that many groups of Americans are still not treated equally and women remain economically disadvantaged. But it is his disrespectful tone, directed specifically at the character of Ms. Cook, who is his equal, that I find most offensive. … Mr. Sauer’s verbal assault on a colleague raises questions about the composition and purpose of this board as effective representatives of our community.

Judith McCarrick, Nevada City  gjr] 

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118 responses to “Sandbox – 7nov14”

  1. fish Avatar
    fish

    BTW, according to Rebane, Cheryl Cook has resigned from The Union’s editorial board. So it’s becoming more “stacked.” Told you so.
    Oh well…that’s what stamping your feet and stomping off will get you!
    Told you so…..
    ……and as always…. KOCH BROS COVERT POLITICAL AGENT (ASSIGNED TO THE SIERRA FOOTHILLS) 11845G 12K signing off

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 November 2014 at 02:19 PM
    I find the writing of Ms. Cook nearly undecipherable!
    I’ll defer to you George….was she censored….or was she simply offended that Mr. Sauer failed to swoon over the majesty of her thoughts?
    I’m stumped.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Ben here is the info from the Sec of State RE: Pelosi’s 12th District.
    US Congressional 12
    District Total
    Total Registration 383,736
    Democrats 214,616
    Republicans 30,802
    Other 6,751 23
    Percent 55.93% 8.03% 1.76% 0.01%
    So tell Nancy she is full of bull excrement for us please!

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 232pm – From the email of her resignation letter etc, she definitely was not censored by anyone, but simply could not tolerate being on the board with ideological opposites, some of whom would counter her public statements.

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  5. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 November 2014 at 02:41 PM
    Well then she made the right decision resigning. No sense remaining in an “intolerable” situation.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don’t know which one sounds more like Maxine Waters. Ms. Cook or Ms Judith of Nevada City. This was definitely an assault on women and a full blown attack on her character, yeah right. WFT, using words like contempt or rant or a big word such as destruction to describe one’s characterization of the ole red, white and blue? Thank you Dr. Rebane for posting this for the world to see, unedited. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I suppose some folks are not use to anything but a monologue. To them a discussion is they talk, you listen, and no response allowed except some good old back slapping “Atta Girl!”s. Anything else (especially debating ideas) is considered an assault one’s character.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you again Dr. Rebane. However, I take no pleasure when someone makes a complete fool of themselves on the World Wide Web. I need to remember what is coming out of and taught in our institutions of higher learning today. Feelings over substance. Nuff said.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 456pm – In situations like that (where ideas are communicated) I would like to see both sides of the ideological divide be represented and defend their beliefs in a public forum. I strongly feel that conservetarian beliefs can successfully stand against collectivism in any form it is presented, and it’s important for the ideologically uncommitted and/or confused to witness such a contest of ideas from which they can draw their own conclusions.
    This is not the first time that we have seen the progressive side withdraw from such encounters when they are unable to appeal to greater powers to silence the other side. Such behavior is not only a litmus test exposing a dysfunctional ideology, but also the identifying hallmark of its modus operandi.
    Given the display of Ms McCarrick’s sensibilities and reasoning power in her letter, perhaps The Union should invite her to replace Ms Cook on the editorial board. I would be ecstatic.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane (@17:51 PST). What a splendid suggestion. A bright idea. To add to your positive solution concerning this hysterical emotion-charged episode in the annuals of human history, allow me to offer another positive observation. Ms Judith would be a welcome addition to the Editorial Board precisely because of the fact she holds dear to her heart San Francisco values; something rare, cute and rather amusing in Western Nevada County.
    I feel confident her contributions would contain a wealth of material ripe for discussion here and in the Letters to the Editor section of The Union.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    I recall the rantings about the 2ND Amendment. Now that the thug protection act has been stupidly passed by the idiot vote ( or by creative voter info pamphlet wording to sound “neutral” (where have we heard that before?) ) our privately owned weapons are more necessary than ever. A thug with a gun inside your home is now a misdemeanor offence.

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  10. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Uh oh – doesn’t look good for the lefties.
    http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/50-of-occupations-today-will-no-longer-exist-in-2025-report-114110701279_1.html
    The left complains it’s too difficult to find their ID at the voting booth.
    What will they do in the future?
    “Nearly 50 per cent of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025. New jobs will require creative intelligence, social and emotional intelligence and ability to leverage artificial intelligence.”
    If they can’t find something in their pants with both hands, how will the left manage the future?

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  11. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Like shooting fish in a barrel.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/08/world-largest-solar-plant-applying-for-federal-grant-to-pay-off-its-federal/
    “After already receiving a controversial $1.6 billion construction loan from U.S. taxpayers, the wealthy investors of a California solar power plant now want a $539 million federal grant to pay off their federal loan.”
    Do the Rs want this? No! Does the Tea Party want this? No! Do the Libertarians want this? No!
    Oh, where are the so-called lefty independents. They are so tired of wealthy white men being supported by the poor in this country. But this goes on and on and they say nothing. Green energy equals wealthy cons scamming the tax payers.
    Your middle of the road, concerned govt at work. Enjoy.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 629pm – On the mark Mr Tozer, on the mark.
    ScottO 957pm – You also asked an(other) important question (in another comment thread) as to the nation’s source of wealth creation. The Left continues to tell the undecided and unthinking that it is the poor, working at government created jobs, who create the country’s wealth. And they would do more of it if it weren’t only for the greedy capitalists who stoop to steal most of their hard earned dollars.

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 07 November 2014 at 09:57 PM
    If they can’t find something in their pants with both hands, how will the left manage the future?

    Manage The Future….? One can only assume with EBT cards and Obamaphones…..or until the money runs out…whichever comes first!

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    This is an interesting read (regardless of your opinion of the proprietor/site where it’s located)….and explains why Ben Emery is not now and will never truly be “a man of the left”.
    You seem to lack the requisite hate!
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/danusha-v-goska/ten-reasons-why-i-am-no-longer-a-leftist/
    These paragraphs will resonate with you I’m sure…..
    “I’m a working-class Bohunk. A hundred years ago, leftists loved us. We worked lousy jobs, company thugs shot us when we went on strike, and leftists saw our discontent as fuel for their fire.
    Karl Marx promised the workers’ paradise through an inevitable revolution of the proletariat. The proletariat is an industrial working class — think blue-collar people working in mines, mills, and factories: exactly what immigrants like my parents were doing.
    Polish-Americans participated significantly in a great victory, Flint, Michigan’s 1937 sit-down strike. Italian-Americans produced Sacco and Vanzetti. Gus Hall was a son of Finnish immigrants.
    In the end, though, we didn’t show up for the Marxist happily ever after. We believed in God and we were often devout Catholics. Leftists wanted us to slough off our ethnic identities and join in the international proletarian brotherhood — “Workers of the world, unite!” But we clung to ethnic distinctiveness. Future generations lost their ancestral ties, but they didn’t adopt the IWW flag; they flew the stars and stripes. “Property is theft” is a communist motto, but no one is more house-proud than a first generation Pole who has escaped landless peasantry and secured his suburban nest.
    Leftists felt that we jilted them at the altar. Leftists turned on us. This isn’t just ancient history. In 2004, What’s the Matter with Kansas? spent eighteen weeks on the bestseller lists. The premise of the book: working people are too stupid to know what’s good for them, and so they vote conservative when they should be voting left. In England, the book was titled, What’s the Matter with America? (This also factors in to your response to Scott last night about your thousands of friends who can’t believe that people vote TEAM STUPID ….we know the the repukes suck….unfortunately most really have no where else to go.)
    We became the left’s boogeyman: Joe Six-pack, Joe Hardhat. Though we’d been in the U.S. for a few short decades when the demonization began, leftists, in the academy, in media, and in casual speech, blamed working-class ethnics for American crimes, including racism and the “imperialist” war in Vietnam. See films like The Deer Hunter. Watch Archie Bunker on “All in the Family.” Listen to a few of the Polack jokes that elitists pelted me with whenever I introduced myself at UC Berkeley.”

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  15. RL Crabb Avatar

    Jeffy ain’t gonna like this! Now it’s not just the right wing “Jefferson” nuts bucking the system… http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/11/05/california-county-passes-historical-law-declaing-right-self-governance/

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Greats reads both Fish and Crabb. Many words to digest. Much to consider in my wigwam.

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: RL Crabb | 08 November 2014 at 07:56 AM
    Good for them!

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  18. Russ Steele Avatar

    RL@07:56
    Yes, these are the same left wing nuts that have kept cellphone and wireless broadband coverage out of Mendocino, because the radio waves would destroy their children’s minds. We sold our Mendo Property this year after coming to the realizations we would never fit in.
    That said, I wish our Supervisors had a stiffer spine when it comes to protecting our rights from the left wing idiots in the Sacramento. Good for Mendocino!

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  19. RL Crabb Avatar

    Now if we could just protect our airspace from the UFO chemtrails!

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Does that mean “Miracle Grow” is now outlawed there? The organic gang considers it “toxic”.

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  21. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Scott,
    Please don’t forget all of the government and special privileges fossil fuels have received over the years. Just because it is the status quo now doesn’t always mean it always was. Tariffs used to be the way it was done to pay for such subsides, it was mercantilism and the way we handled trade in the America for hundreds of years until the Reagan Revolution. No more tariffs but the subsides remained, remove the revenue but keep the hand out. Who pays for it?
    In 2010 $550 billion dollars were subsidized to the oil and gas industry world wide.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh boy, here it comes. the food fight begins. The libs in Texas are now declaring war on any white women who voted for Abbot instead of their Kill All Babies Sex Toy Queen.
    Queen Nancy has declared war on every Democrat who failed to get out the vote. She also is blaming the voters!! Stupid voters is why they lost. Well, duh. The voters that did turn out were the ones referenced in Fish’s excellent piece above.
    The South Carolina libs are calling Scott’s historical victory (from any party) racist and are gunning after any black who voted for Scott. Soon they will be kicking down doors and dragging all those Uncle Tom’s to the Tree of Woe to be lynched.
    Oh, it goes on and on. Hey Nancy, Monica ain’t going to gobble the Libbies’ goop no more. Blame the voters? Shame on the voters, shame. Why don’t you take that finger wagging and clean out your earwax instead.
    Definitely an election of which the results have revealed hate, racism, and fear mongering and strong arm tactics. Yeah, give the voters a chance and they rejected the Libbies’ politics of destruction. Try something new, you control freak progressives.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/naacp-fails-to-mention-victory-by-republicans-mia-love-tim-scott-statement

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hey Nancy, Monica ain’t going to gobble the Libbies’ goop no more.
    Eeewww…….William! Come on….I was enjoying my coffee! Not so much now!

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Sorry Mr. fish. I have no idea where that came from. I owe you a cup……or two.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What surprises me the most is what I consider normal (in terms of Liberal emotional outbursts and hate) to some is newsworthy. Here is another boring opinion on the tolerance of the Left. Nothing surprising in the least. Could have been written 30 years ago, but I do have a freaky weakness that enjoys seeing bobbleheads exploding in the rear view mirror.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/liberalism-an-ideology-of-rage-and-hate
    why can’t we all just get along. Think some across the aisle would benefit from Anger Management classes.

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  26. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    “In 2010 $550 billion dollars were subsidized to the oil and gas industry world wide.”
    Your left wing version of ‘subsidies’ is highly suspect based on past history.
    I’m talking about outright scams that don’t work. Is it or is it not OK by you for the working poor in this country to pay for wealthy white ‘greenies’ to run their scams?
    I would remind you that the cost of the petro products I use has gone up mostly due to govt taxes and regs. And a lot of the money I pay in taxes to build and maintain the roads I drive on are now siphoned off for other purposes that I don’t benefit from. That’s another ‘greenie’ scam.

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 853am – Readers (and you) should know that the “worldwide subsidies” were also made by countries that wanted to attract energy companies to operate in their jurisdictions, employing their people, creating secondary support jobs (yes, trickle down), and paying their taxes. To a propagandist progressive these are demogauged as handouts, and not deals made on a win-win basis. In the US states regularly make such ‘subsidy’ deals with corporations that they want to attract to relocate within their borders. Would our brave new world collectivist government prohibit the several states from doing so? Perhaps the best answer to this question will be delivered by crickets.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Look at it another way. “Green power” is so cheap, it can’t pay for itself.
    Isn’t this the same plant that needed to burn NG to stay online? ( or was that a diff. plant?)
    On the subject of the solar scam, Does Ben forget all the Eagle and endangered bird cooking from those (ha)eco friendly crittier cookers? They got exemptions form the EPA.
    Yet we can’t dig up one Elderberry bush because of a non existent (around these parts)
    Elderberry beetle. Thanks Ben and friends,,,,.

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  29. Russ Steele Avatar

    Walt@10:32
    I have bird kill numbers here: http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2014/11/07/renewable-energy-underperforming-environmental-costs-soaring/
    We drove by the plant earlier this year and did no see any “streamers”, birds on fire in flight, but it was partially high overcast.
    The ERC is trying to raise money for subsidies they can pay business that move to Nevada County. I wonder if Ben is against supporting local economic development? Are ERC good subsidies or bad subsidies Ben?

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    RLCrabb 756am – That is quite a declaration you dug up Bob. As a conservetarian I am in full sympathy with our liberal brethren in Mendocino County re their desire for home rule. Now as you might gather, I don’t exactly agree with all the provisions of their new ‘ordinance’, but that is not for me in Nevada County to decide.
    But I do offer the thought that self-determination should be available and practiced to the extent that it is self-funded. (And before the local liberals light off again, this principle is not to be interpreted on a zero/one basis, which seems to be the nature of their reasoning powers.) My point is that if they want to deny revenues to local coffers by banning fracking and promoting notions such as (the mind boggling) ‘Rights of Nature’, then they get to live with the collateral results to which such provisions give rise. In other words, don’t tap my wallet to support your peculiar lifestyle, and vice versa.
    Our local lady leading the global adoption of the Rights of Nature is Ms Robin Milam – currently also president of our Nevada City Rotary Club. Readers may recall that Ms Milam has written extensively about nature’s rights in these pages, and readers have debated the pros and cons of implementing such rights.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/02/the-rights-of-nature.html
    As with other authoritarian regimes of the past, the Rights of Nature must have human elites who claim special knowledge about what nature wants and needs. These folks (as you read the references in RR) want to expand their belief systems across jurisdictional boundaries without limitation. In the final analysis, they will want to bring to bear the government gun to make all genuflect and conform to what they decree as nature’s rights. And BTW, these fuzzy thinkers, as witnessed by Bob’s excellent link, confuse ‘natural rights’ with ‘Rights of Nature’, claiming that the latter were intended by our Founders with their use of the former in their writings and in our founding documents.
    In sum, this aspect of local control may wind up being nothing more than a new tack on the voyage to Agenda21. In spite of that, I support Mendocino County’s local initiative, and hope that they too can support equivalent initiatives like the formation of the State of Jefferson. Then again, perhaps that is asking them to cross one bridge too far.

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Regarding oil and gas subsidies. Most of those are tax credits for drilling and exploration, not a subsidy for the company’s day to day. If as Ben says there are or were 550 billion bucks in them, that was leveraged into what 500 trillion over the last 60 years? So, tell me what happened to the 21 trillion we transferred to the poor in America Ben Emery. Did it leverage out like oil and gas? Nope, the poverty rate is the same or worse.

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ecuador was the first country to have Rights of Nature enshrined in its Constitution. Equal rights to boot. Equal to humanoids. So, how has that been working?
    They told the UN climate folks to go pound cocoa leaves. They are drilling in the Amazon Rainforest to the disbelief of our never quiet friends. They also want no part of the Global Warmers’ plan to reforest 1 million acres.
    They did give the Greenies one opportunity to stop the drilling. Told them that you can start making payments to us in 10 billion dollar deposits and we won’t drill, baby, drill. That is just the first installment to get Ecuador to think about it. A few hundred billion is needed for the mere consideration of the sovereign nation to scrape it’s drilling plans in lieu of just compensation for lost revenue.
    Per my daily Ecuador/Colombia updates from Google, I believe they are drilling full speed ahead. Got to keep the lights on and pay for their low low low cost of food, healthcare, and 50 cent a gallon petro for the people.
    Guess no one from the Mean Green Eco Machine showed them any Yankee Greenbacks. Money feeds people, Nature eats not so much.

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Russ.. Now that would be a million hit youtube video in 24hrs. if you had caught a bird
    auguring in with a smoke trail in tow. I have suggested a “fry of they day,, Sun kill diner” just outside the plant. Now that would be worth the desolate drive just to see what’s on the menu.( maybe an app for that?)
    Now a new push for a co-gen plant right outside of town. Haven’t we already been through that dog fight? Same plant, same place, same gripes to come. Who’s money is getting burned this time to push it? ( Don’t look at me,,, I was in favor the first time. Seems everything That looks good to me, the “other side” hates it.) But Hell… What do I know?
    The same yappers will demand a solar farm on that spot. ( like they did the last time)

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  34. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Thanks for the heads up, Bob – good luck to Mendocino with their efforts.
    My question would be to the folks on the left: If the Tea Party espouses the same line, why are they evil and the Mendocino folks wonderful?

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Heard a good way to describe the beliefs of “O”.
    ” He is listening to the 2/3ds that did’t vote… he is doing such a good job that there was no reason to vote”
    Yes, that’s the LIB reasoning.

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  36. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    As usual, you miss the bigger point. All established industry has had government help, hell many of them were born out of government programs. If not born out of directly linked to a government program of some sort. This is where you are oblivious, government from the very beginning and even pre revolution helped industry a.k.a. picking winners and losers. So to pick one industry and say they need to do it on their own to prove they are worthy is ludicrous. Another example you guys like to use is Organic agriculture, it is the actual cost of food since they do not receive subsides or if they have started subsidizing organic, it is nominal.

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  37. Russ Steele Avatar

    Our two lefties, Ms Cheryl Cook and Ms Judith McCarrick, should take notice:
    Bang! For the first time, a growing — and already substantial — majority of Americans now believe having a gun in the home makes it a safer place to live.
    Put that in your chamber and cock it.
    Gallup, which has been surveying the politically volatile question for a generation, announced this morning a new poll revealing that nearly two-out-of-three Americans (63%) now say having a firearm there makes a home safer.
    That’s nearly twice the number who said that just before 9/11.
    And the explosion of support has come across all political boundaries. Back in the fall of 2000, barely a third thought that (35%), while a majority (51%) said guns made homes more dangerous.
    But the number who say guns increase home safety has been steadily increasing while the number who see them as increasing danger has been steadily declining — from 35% in 2000 to 42% four years later to 47% in 2006 and now a jump all the way up to 63%.

    The more guns I add to my collection the safer I feel.

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  38. Walt Avatar

    I say to Ben, more businesses have been done in by government that have been born of it.
    Take my own Father for example. He built his business starting right on his kitchen table.
    No help from the government what so ever. From selling box lunches on the streets of S.F.
    and building the largest catering Co. in all of the Bay. He cut out the middle man and raised his own poultry and beef here,to supply his business there.
    Good luck doing that today.
    You can thank dear ol’ Dad for the beginnings of food safety. He started writing that book.
    Ben. Do tell how government put Henry Ford in business. How about Holt machinery? John Deere?
    Your beloved Government gave us the likes of Solyindra.
    Yup, I bet you even agree with Hillary. ” Don’t let anyone tell you businesses create jobs”.
    Never mind the 400 employees Dad used to employ at the height of his food empire.
    Naaaa, He didn’t build that…(Right Ben?)

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  39. Walt Avatar

    BTW Ben,, it was government that closed our mines. It demanded the war metals that came from here,(now do some homework to find out just what those were.)and forced the end of gold production. Then it fixed the price of gold. Then when the war ended the mined had to close because it was unprofitable to mine it. Miners turned into loggers. Then what happened to them thanks to government? (those great regulations you love so much is a good clue.)

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 1511, 11/08/2014
    Why? Cause they wear white hats and ride white horses and we wear black hats and ride sinister black stallions in the dead of night. They be the good guys, we be the bad guys, Satan’s spawn if you prefer. Kind of like spy vs spy with Alfred E Newman in the Oval Office. It is the burden we must carry as part of the evil Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. For evidence of us being the bad evil guys, just look how many joyous Dem victory celebrations we ruined. Heck, flushing the punch bowl at Harry and Barry’s party is a a down right bad thing to do, not to mention making Nancy and Downer Debbi look like fools. That is something only the black hats would do. Our depths of depravity knows no bounds.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Mackerel, them peasants are getting uppity again. They should stay on their farms and put their pitchforks down. A sorry brut ignorant lot they are.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/election-has-southern-oregon-voters-looking-again-at-the-state-of-jefferson
    Go Mendiciino County, go. Best wishes and fight the good fight.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSS9PnU6T8s

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  42. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “Gallup, which has been surveying the politically volatile question for a generation, announced this morning a new poll revealing that nearly two-out-of-three Americans (63%) now say having a firearm there makes a home safer.
    That’s nearly twice the number who said that just before 9/11.”
    It seems as if the war on terror has been a boon for the arms industry…. hmmmmm… .just like Ike said

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  43. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Walt,
    To many questions to answer in full, as you all know I get long winded/typed.
    Much like most Rebane’s “conservative” regulars the big picture alludes you.
    Doesn’t it seem peculiar that you guys pick and choose when government involvement is good or bad. Oil and Gas subsides GOOD, Alternative Energy subsides BAD. You don’t want government to pick winners and losers but that is exactly what our Foreign Policy has been since the beginning of our country. You guys want to continue that same policy of American Exceptionalism. Turning a blind eye to your proclaimed “convictions” seems to be a favorite past time.
    -How about public roads and highway system? $120plus billion government investment
    No roads means no need for mass production of cars.
    -How about the government passed law of bankruptcy? Henry Ford filed for bankruptcy many many times.
    -How about all the subsides the Ford companies received over the years?
    Hell it helped build the largest middle class of all time so I am not complaining because coupled with the Top Marginal Tax Rate being at 91% until the 60’s and then 74% until Reagan Revolution those subsides went into worker pay/ benefits and R&D. When the taxes changed so did the incentives that is when we saw the huge influx of monied interests dominating the political system. Then came the virtual elimination of the import tariff and then NAFTA/WTO that basically blew the doors off of any protection of American manufacturing. That is exactly when both personal debt and public debt skyrocketed. That is when government assistance began to grow when the American worker could no longer afford the lifestyle that was set up. That is also when the big banks knew they had to deregulate to get people easy credit and that is also when the banking crisis came back into play and huge bubble economies.

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  44. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    Paul Emery and his band are ripping it up on the radio right now performing in what I am assuming is a packed Nevada Theatre. It is an opening concert for the partnership of KVMR/ Nevada Theatre.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Nice try Ben. We all pay at the pump to pay for roads. That’s until that fund gets raided by LIBS to pay for some pet project. Then the roads got to shit and then LIBS whine for more taxes on fuel. Before that, back in the horse and buggy days, the farmers maintained the roads. They needed to. That was the only way they could get their goods to market.
    Grand Dad was an original “teamster” he owned his own fright wagon that was pulled by Oxen.
    Only in the 1900s did the “G” man step in. That’s less than 100 years ago did “the man” you love so dear start thinking “he knows best”. John Q. Public was doing just fine when government stayed in it’s place. There is not a damned thing government can do cheaper or better than private enterprise can.
    Take the war on poverty. More people are in poverty than ever. More people are unemployed than ever. All thanks to LIB government. But HAY!! More laws and regulations will fix that!… Right?

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ah, the choice between two evils.
    http://www.brainjet.com/random/4427/20-images-that-make-absolutely-no-sense?til=d-dy-4427#slide/9
    The Occupy crowd has more numbers and growing by the day. Walt, we are doomed!

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  47. Walt Avatar

    JoeK… Even more guns will be bought in Ca. now that the thug protection act has been passed by the dumbshit vote. Hell! even steeling a gun here is now just a ticketable
    offence. ( if it’s less than 950 bucks) I hope to see many a home invader sent to Hell
    by an armed homeowner.
    BTW The Ca. waiting period to by a gun has been deemed unconstitutional!
    That now only applies to first time buyers now, and that the person can get that gun just as soon as the background check is done. The state could not defend it’s position and reasoning for that waiting period.
    And count on even more CWPs to the public.
    Ya’ know what they say,, With 911 the cops are more than minutes away when seconds count.
    People want that protection, and you can thank “O” and Co. They have been the best gun salesmen.
    Ya’ think letting illegals flood over the boarder helped? How bout all the illegals that are responsible for criminal activity getting turned loose by the cops and courts and not deported, and are free to do more crime?
    We have two dead cops right down the road to give proof to that.

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  48. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Walt,
    Please tell me what you think government is and does?
    We pay at the pumps to pay for the roads, to who?

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  49. Walt Avatar

    Naaa,,, you tell me. Ben… Try reading the Constitution first. It spells out what it’s “supposed” to be. Then get back to me. ( there will be a test)
    A little something for Joe.
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/08/9-times-the-second-amendment-saved-american-lives/

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