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George Rebane

[This is the addended transcript to my regular KVMR commentary aired on 5 November 2014.]

As someone once said, elections have consequences.  And today this makes possible several different ways forward that can slow the surge toward socialism we have endured since Democrats took over Congress in 2006.  President Obama nailed it this year when he declared to both heartened conservatives and duck-and-cover liberals that this election was really a report card on Team Obama’s policies.  It would let voters assess everything that this administration and its congressional supporters have done to give America its ‘2% economy’, uncounted scandals, incompetent governance, international disdain, and partisan polarization, all rolled up in one package that many argue represents a new low point in the country’s history.

Nationally, the election was indeed a so-called Republican wave, both in Congress where the GOP will have historical majorities, and in the state houses.  Does that constitute a mandate?  Well yes.  Even liberal pundits this morning acknowledged that we now have a popular mandate to roll back regulatory overreach and reduce the size of government.  But that is not the way that the diehard Left is spinning the message sent by the people.  Led by Harry Reid and repeated in our local echo chambers, they claim that the real message from Americans is that government should now work together.  But that desperate interpretation fails on all accounts.


After obstructing literally all Congressional actions by blocking more than 350 House passed bills from the Senate floor, Dirty Harry now claims that Americans gave Congress to the Republicans so that they would work with Democrats to pass more laws to grow government, stifle economic growth, inject more regulations into all aspects of our lives, reduce the workforce, increase our unfunded liabilities and stultifying debt, and continue our retreat from global leadership – I don’t think so.

It is clear that Democrats, planning to elect another Clinton, will spend the next two years working hard to make President Obama and his six-year legacy a dim memory in the minds of voters.  Lady Macbeth’s ‘Out damn spot, out I say!’ now more than ever, will considerably exercise Hillary as she attempts to erase the record of her Obama years.  The Republicans in their turn will do their best to keep the pair joined at the hip, and hope that ol’ Joe Biden will become the Democrats’ standard bearer in 2016.

Locally, most of us celebrated the re-election of our congressmen Doug LaMalfa and Tom McClintock.  I hear that they plan to work together to stop Sacramento and Washington from further ruining NorCal’s economy, water resources, public land access, and the environment.

Here in Nevada County the big issue was Measure S, the voter initiative to replace the existing medical marijuana ordinance.  The pro-S people claimed that medical marijuana is in short supply, and that needy patients do not have adequate access to the weed.  The initiative failed because its proponents never made the case for such shortages, and argued strongly that voters didn’t need to hear more than a few heart-rending stories of people deprived of their medicines.  The reality is that 7 out of 10 county voters decided to keep the current ordinance, and that number indicates support across a broad demographic beyond the claimed old conservative fogies who were supposed to be the only anti-S contingent. I believe there is no doubt that both medical and recreational marijuana use will be legalized in its various forms across the country including California.  But we would be wise to hold back a bit, and watch other states with more lenient marijuana laws to see first what works and what doesn’t.

Finally, the Republicans will now have two years to attempt broadly accepted repairs to damage done to the country by Barack Obama and his uncritical progressive political allies.  But this will not be a free ride.  The GOP, along with its conservative contingent, needs to show the country that it can bring about constructive change in which Americans can again put their hopes.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on georgerebane.com where an expanded transcript of this commentary and the discussion continues among readers with widely differing perspectives.  As always, my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  I’ll start this with an email from Nancy Garcia that was waiting for me when I got back from my recording session.  Nancy and husband Eddie (Eduard) Garcia have been active in Nevada County conservative circles.  The Garcias were in the founding activities of the NC Tea Party and State of Jefferson movements.  Nancy is a former president of the NCTP and Eddie chairs the current NC SoJ steering committee.  Nancy encouraged me to post her email.

George,

I just had to laugh when I scrolled down to your 5nov14 update on RR.  It was a delicious moment as the progressive's "talking points" were destroyed by the victories of Mia Love, Joni Ernst, Tim Scott and Elise Stefanik. 

Coming back down to earth, the real work begins now.  We have two short years to repair some of the damage from a six year train wreck. Our job will be to hold our elected official's feet to the fire.  And most importantly, may they remember – principles count!

Nancy Garcia=

I am told that many of our progressive pundits are frantically waving their purple flags today.  They got the color wrong.  What seems to blindside them is that voters voted their experiences of the last six years – no more BS about this administration, for its record of lies, incompetence, and overreach are all now a part of the public record.

Barack Obama is the most opaque president in our history, a politician so successfully buoyed by the lamestream that it has taken the electorate six years to discover and repudiate him.  What the voters have learned is that they unwittingly drank the kool-aid and returned to office an intellectual lightweight, inexperienced political hack, widely acknowledged socialist ideologue, and arrogant administrator with no executive experience (save having Valerie Jarrett’s contact info).  All of these attributes are now evident to everyone save Obama’s most ardent core constituency.  It is they who have always voted for him because of the color of his skin and not the content of his character.  Nothing here will change.

In a recent conversation with a left-of-center friend and colleague, the matter of money in politics and its ability to swing elections came up.  While my friend's tendency is to approach a solution that would restrict the use of money in election campaigns, predictably mine is to modify the election process so that money would not be able to play such a prominent role in deciding the winner.  In short, in a liberal society money is the prime enabler of free speech, and restricting its use abbreviates not only our rights, but also the benefits to society in the encouragement of productive activities for the benefit of all.

Over the years I have come to accept that the impact of campaign monies is directly proportional to the dumbth of the electorate.  In other words, the more uneducated, uninformed, and intellectually deprived is the voter, the more impact will moneyed repetition of simple messages have on such individuals.  And, of course, the other way around.  Think of it as a seesaw, the influence of money goes up as the smarts come down.  So what to do?

One solution that hits the hip-level processing hot button of progressives is to once more introduce the notion of minimum qualifications for voting.  We have to pass knowledge tests to qualify for society’s permissions in so many other domains of daily affairs, why not also include something beyond mirror-fogging for becoming a franchised voter.  I can hear the cacophony of the collectivists now, all screaming about the impossibility of fairly and equitably achieving such an end, and being ascribed a racist for even suggesting it.  Nothing could be further from the truth, since government and corporations already administer proof of skill/knowledge tests in so many areas before we’re allowed to do something or demonstrate certified expertise.

Such testing would involve the basics of civics – structure and operation of government, law, and the current state of the state.  The test details would be left to non-partisan commissions at various levels – federal, state, county/city.  The objectives of such testing would conform to those used by the DMV and the federal government for new citizens – in short, make the voting franchise as widely accessible as possible, and provide the ‘free’ educational resources to remediate those who have failed the test which can be taken as many times as necessary.  Such an initiative must, of course, be supported by constitutional amendments at both state and federal levels.

Bottom line – to keep dummies out of the voting booth while minimizing the gratuitous impact of money in elections, and its subsequent bad governance, require of the citizen a basic level of knowledge that activates and maintains his right as a franchised ‘Elector’.  I believe that the notion is at least worthy of considered and rational discussion.

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75 responses to “Election 2014 – what it was and wasn’t”

  1. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    The Democrats always talk about those in government working together. Historically they make a promise if you do this we’ll do that, but usually don’t keep their end of the deal. Don’t believe what they say, but rather look at what they do.

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar

    In his presser today Obama said that he would listen to any reasonably good ideas that the Republican came up with. The problem is, Obama believes that he is the only one who can come up with reasonably good ideas. This ego trip is not going to work out very well for the folks in Washington, or the nation.

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  3. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    In a constitutional republic the people elect representatives to enact laws. If those elected representatives fail to perform their duty the people may use ballot initiatives to create law. Once passed, legislatures cannot alter or rescind ballot initiatives as they are the direct will of the people. Instead, additional initiatives are required if it becomes desired or necessary to alter or rescind law created by ballot initiative.
    Bringing ballot initiatives to the voters and getting them passed is not an easy process. It may be that initiatives that alter or rescind previously passed initiatives is even more difficult. I say, “May be,” because I cannot recall it having happened and have only my intuition with which to form this opinion.
    For this reason I consider ballot initiatives negatively. At minimum, they have to pass a first test of whether the legislature has indeed failed to perform and only if that is the case do I consider the validity of the proposal.
    In my opinion Measure 6 failed to pass the first test. In fact, none of the initiatives on my precinct’s ballot made that cut.

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  4. Walt Avatar

    Count on more CWP permits to be requested after the bonehead move of Ca. voters for passing the “thug protection act” and or “get out of jail free card”. Prop 47…
    Hell. Even gun theft is a reduced to a slap on the wrist. The magic number is $950 now.
    Adjusted for Inflation I guess.
    That revolving door on the jail house will now spin faster.
    All the criminals will be more brazen to commit even more crime now since the penalty’s have been greatly reduced.
    Well,,, I hope the honest citizen drops a few.. Leave a note about how well the law worked.

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Scott the Emery’s have their view (whatever that is) and no one can say anything that will change their minds. And they say conservatives are stuck. LOL!
    What fascinates me about people like them is hey constantly carp about how things are but never do anything to change it. The turmoil in their personal lives spills over into most everything they do. I know women like that too. So other than providing us some comic relief with the ever constant negativity, they are relegated to insignificance, even here in our little corner of the world. They really belong with their pal Mr. Purple.

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  6. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Listen. From Congress all the way down to the state legislatures voters overwhelmingly and decisively entrusted Republicans to fix a broken America. Even California took a small turn towards the center. The agenda should be this – balance a budget. Control the power of the purse. Move legislation and win the debate and call democrats out for who they are – obstructionists. All of the purple talk is profoundly ignorant and shows a complete disconnect from the facts. Republicans own 85% of the landmass of the USA and control a supermajority of state legislatures and governorships. Republicans have a clear and uniequivocal mandate from the American people and an opportuinty to bury the liberal progressive agenda for three generations. Don’t waste it.

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  7. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    While I am on a roll, I would like to remind his purpleness of one of his outlandish opinions. What happened with the government shutdown? Was not that event supposed to destory the republican party? Instead voters voted republican in heaps. Republicans even one the 18 to 24 demographic. Nothing but rhetoric…displaced from reality.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Barry has it right on the mark. Even in our little state we see some attempts to throw off the democrat hegemony and bring some balance. Mr. Purple and his loony minions never speak to the democrat control of California as a problem. Meaning he never says those democrats must move to the center and have R’s as a part of the decision making. That is why he has no political credibility or smarts. He is too transparent!
    America booted the left out in most places because their policies don’t work in a free society.

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  9. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    I cannot speak for Paul but this Emery truly believes in think globally and act locally. I volunteer constantly in Nevada County making it a better place to live along with thousands of other people doing the same kind of actions. I would say Paul probably does more for Nevada County than anybody on this blog. I am amazed at how much energy he has and all the great things he brings to our little community in the foothills of the Sierra. Paul is good man and I admire him a great deal.
    My activism is focused on national and international issues that directly effect people throughout the country and all over the world.

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  10. Brad C. Avatar
    Brad C.

    No doubt Obama is inking up his ‘veto stamp’ as we speak.
    “Responding to increased Democratic control of Congress after the 1974 midterms (fueled, in part, by public outrage over the Watergate scandals), Gerald Ford, hoping to win a full term in the White House, decided to make frequent use of his veto power. He vetoed more bills during the 94th Congress than any other president during any other two-year period we have seen during the past half century. Ford’s veto record is all the more surprising, in retrospect, because as House Republican leader, he was known for his willingness to compromise with Democratic presidents. The reason he became so combative was that advisers told him that frequent vetoes would suggest to conservatives in his party that he was not as moderate as they thought, and show Americans that he had grit and spine.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/05/upshot/historical-lessons-for-a-president-forced-to-deal-with-a-hostile-congress.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Ben Emery, you slight to the people on this blog is the typical liberal response. You have no idea what any of us do in and for the community and make a blanket statement of superiority for yourself and Paul Emery. Pure narcissism. So, it is my experience that people like you, when pressed for facts, move the goal posts so you are never at risk. Chicken. Now you are a national and internationally concerned person. Did you not say above to “act locally and think globally?
    I would suggest that before you judge others you look in the mirror and point that finger at what you see.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    BarryP 716am – Am glad to see this clarification of the election’s meaning and import. I was concerned when in your 5nov14 450pm (‘Election 2014′) you said
    “Today, I have been giving the consequences of yesterday a lot of thought. I think that characterizing the Republican tsunami as a complete repudiation of Obama is wrong, because it completely discards the fact that the approval rating for Congress is in single digits.”
    A “complete repudiation of Obama” by the voters and their current “approval rating for Congress” are independent (orthogonal) factors, not only in this election but in general. Either can go up or down without necessarily affecting the other.
    As I tried to state in my addended commentary, IMHO this election was indeed a complete repudiation of Obama – the voters’ cry was ‘Stop Obama and his goal to make America into a socialist state!’ Mitch McConnell’s attempt to find a middle ground with Speaker Boehner will be at least as interesting as their mutual attempt to find one with Obama.
    Besides regaining a prudent fiscal stance and global respect, the main Republican goal for the next two years should be to reveal the Dems’ collectivist goals for the country, while exposing the administration’s culprits of scandal, subterfuge, and ‘extra-constitutionality’ (past and present). Here there is an abundance of educational materials for the country to absorb before Nov 2016.

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Off the election topic, but on the thread subject.
    I have always believed that you volunteer or help someone for fun and free. And do it anonymously if at all possible. I may be weird and superstitious, but I also believe that if I do some helping or giving and I tell ANYBODY about it, I have jinxed the giving and no good points awarded. All for fun and free.
    To put it to the test, most of us feel good about helping others. That is a reward in and of itself. BUT, imagine giving and helping with no reward at all, not even receiving the satisfaction of feeling good about it, i.e., NO reward. To take it further, trying giving just to give and have the other party not appreciate it nor even thankful nor grateful. Nothing, no reward or self satisfaction of being a good guy. That is my test for giving. In other words, giving just to give with no reward, no feeling of satisfaction and let others take credit. That is giving, that is the true meaning of helping, not even expecting karma nor or pay it forward. And do it anonymously and never ever talk about it. Otherwise I question the motives behind some who live on the altruist plane. Some of the most giving do it for ego.
    Giving just to give is my standard, even if it hurts. Can’t stand those who can’t keep it private within themselves and spill the beans to get a pat on the back. That is their reward, just an ego massage. Try doing it solely because it is the right thing to do without any egotistic reward.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Back to t digesting the recent mid-term results, surprised nobody mentioned the 3 House seats that went red in New York State. Safe liberal incumbents shown the door. That was just three I saw on election night, not even seeing the final results.
    While our eyes have been glued to the big races, can’t wait for statehouse results to really grasp a deeper understanding of what just happened.
    The Newt G tsunami was not just a temper tantrum back in the day. In every single statehouse election across the land in all 50 states, not one incumbent R lost his/her seat, only incumbent Dems. Don’t think I will ever see the likes of that wholesale cleaning of the lib’s clock again, but I suspect the mid-terms of 2014 have a high percentage of Dem incumbents losing and a lower percentage of R incumbents shown the door.
    In short, this was not a throw the bums out election. It was throw the libs out election. It was the way the majority of those who voted expressed their voice. Widespread rejection of Dem/lib/progressive/socialist/Marxist policies as put forth from our Commander in Chief.
    Yes, the death of the Republican party which was written about so extensively (and taken as fact) after the 2008 elections has be “greatly exaggerated.”

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  15. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Todd,
    You made a claim about Paul and myself so I responded about Paul and myself. Since I am participating on this blog my comment-
    “I would say Paul probably does more for Nevada County than anybody on this blog.”
    also applies to me. I am sorry if you are not included in my statement-
    “I volunteer constantly in Nevada County making it a better place to live along with thousands of other people doing the same kind of actions.”
    If you read this as I am saying nobody here volunteers in the County that is your problem. I know George, Russ, and Barry volunteer in the community since my son participated in their tech test challenge 4 years ago. He is about to graduate from St Mary’s with a double major of Math/ Economics. Good people are volunteering all over the place and many of them are Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, Peace and Freedoms, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheists, White, Black, Asian, Latino, Chicano, Male, Female, Young, and Old.
    Here is the thing Todd out of everybody on this blog you are the only one I can safely say I do not like or respect. I can disagree with others all day long and still like and respect them but you are a fool who probably has something to offer but decided long ago that your thing is to be a jerk. I guess it must be working out for you since you continue to be a jerk.

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  16. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish,
    Can you see my past points about how the attacking negativity gets started?

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    BillT, you are so on the mark. If one “gives” and wants recognition for it, they are simply looking for attention. Those that give without asking or excepting a reward are well, mainly Christians! LOL! So, Ben Emery gave up any pats on the back from many of us since he wants us all to know how great he is.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Ben, are you proud of yourself or even like yourself after your comments directed at Todd? Remember that is why you stay off this site….because you don’t like yourself after reviewing the nasty things you write. Quick, a Hindu meditation session is in order.
    Don’t be too hard on yourself, Brother Ben. It is not your fault. The Devil made you do it. You are a victim. It’s all us posters’ fault, not just Todd. Just think, if Dr. Rebane never has started his blog, none of this behavior so far beneath you would have never seen the light of day. Alas, your pain must be great to be so vile.

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  19. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Bill,
    06 November 2014 at 09:19 AM is the very problem with our government and state of affairs in the US. In a couple of years Democrats will be swept back into control and then in a couple of years after that Republicans will gain control. The whole time we will be getting worse and worse since we are forced to vote for the least worst or lesser of two evils(which I don’t like to use) the end result we always get worse or a little more evil each election cycle. Isn’t it time we moved passed the partisan bs since it wasn’t even mentioned in the Constitution.
    George Washington understood this in 1796 and it is just as true if not more true since it is so entrenched into our collective political thought process.
    George Washington Farewell Address
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
    Excerpt
    “I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
    This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
    The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
    Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it. “

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Ben Emery | 06 November 2014 at 09:22 AM
    I much prefer the honesty…negative or not …to the enforced conformity and veiled threats if a poster wanders off the ideological reservation at that other blog that shall remain nameless this morning.
    As an example:
    John Eberhardt says:
    November 5, 2014 at 5:46 am
    obliviously the country took a big step in the right direction(no pun intended) California is a lost cause,
    Reply
    jeffpelline says:
    November 5, 2014 at 8:00 am
    And here’s another that posted as “anonymous” on Todd’s blog:
    “AnonymousNovember 5, 2014 at 7:57 AM
    Obliviously the country took a big step in the right direction(no pun intended) California is a lost cause,”
    Reply
    jeffpelline says:
    November 5, 2014 at 5:15 pm
    John Eberhardt, Suburban Propane?
    Did it occur to you that half the local population is registered “D” and also purchases propane?

    It’s always the lightly veiled threat from jeffy. Always! A person offers their opinion and complies with the fat fucks blog rules. If it differs from the approved position will always insinuate that maybe Mr. Eberhardts propane business will suffer following his blatant display of “thoughtcrime”.

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  21. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    The only good news for me from Tuesday’s results is that our country isn’t sinking as fast. We still have massive debt and unfunded liabilities to cover. Remember also that Obama Care still hasn’t kicked in for most folks. The natl legislative branch won’t be able to get anything substantive pass O’s vetos. By the next election cycle, the natl debt will be even higher and the sugar rush of free money will have sputtered out. Facing the music and making the govt pay real free market rates will help the economy slowly, but will also balloon the debt immediately. All the money pouring into the treasury from the Wall Street highs will cease and publicly funded retirement accounts will suffer badly. Rebuilding a sound economic base with an increase of good paying jobs will be slow and the results for the masses will be hugely uneven. Most Americans are thoroughly brain-washed into a solid belief that the govt exists primarily to ensure ‘shared prosperity’. Last Tuesday’s results won’t do a thing to change any of that. Interesting times.

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    ScottO 958am – A sobering review indeed that hews to RR’s longstanding economic analysis. Readers may recall that a couple of years back I did a bit of noodling on the economy that showed we need a sustained annual growth rate of at least 5% just to absorb the new workers (many of whom are not now entering the workforce, instead expecting govt handouts and voting so as to secure them).
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2012/09/the-real-jobs-problem-shhh.html
    To bring some reality into this discussion, consider that no one publishes or wants to talk about the debt service to federal budget ratio (DSFB) – the same can be said for states and their unfunded liabilities. Right now governments at all levels take almost 50% of earnings and profits, and are so inefficient that they still have to borrow to make their promised spending ends meet. The only hope of retiring any of the debt (short of hyper-inflation) is to massively increase the DSFB ratio.
    To do that without trashing our addictive entitlement programs requires massive increases in some combination of workforce participation (jobs) AND worker productivity. Capitalists’ solution is boost economic growth, collectivists’ solution is ‘learn to do with less, and shut the f@%k up!’

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  23. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    My point is that a lot of folks are frustrated that Washington DC is populated by a bunch of bickering kids…and folks trust the Republicans to fix it. If Obama wants to get in the way of the fixes, then he is simply an obstructionist and the problem. He is sticking to his liberal mantra, so the battle is on for the hearts and minds. Because the folks gave Republicans nearly every level of government, it is clear where the chips will fall when the dust settles.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    BarryP 1039am – Do I understand correctly that your take on the last years’ happenings in DC has been principles-free bickering? I had (mistakenly?) interpreted all these maneuverings by the Repubs and Dems to have been expressions of their strongly held socio-political ideologies. I have attributed the initiatives and impasses to both sides as attempts to influence the direction of the country, and not merely as maneuvers that promote re-election chances. As the record here shows, such a ‘principles based’ outlook has enable a fairly good record of predicting how each side has behaved over the history of RR. In short, I’m not aware of any progressive initiative that the Repubs – individually or as a party – opposed primarily for assuring their return to Washington. Maybe I have overlooked something.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    0bama and his supporters are almost livid that they are getting no credit for the recovering economy. Yes, let’s give credit where credit is due. The economy is no longer in a free fall and has been bumping along the bottom doing the bottom fishing thang for a few years. Manufacturing in the US has increased (greatly). Of course, like real estate stats, doing a month or month analyst or compared to the bottom, everything looks like a huge gain. So, the big hidden secret is the economy has improved under Obama according to the livid rabid fans who still swoon and faint at the sight of His a Holy Eminence.
    Luckily for fringers such as moi, the Marxists are venting their anger at the mainstream media for their conspiracy to withhold this vital formation from the public. It’s a bloody conspiracy I tell ya. Reminds me when George H W Bush said that the recession was over just before the election against the man from Hope, William Jefferson Clinton. Wrong thing to say and I and everybody knew it at that second. People did not feel it was over. And coupled with President Bush shock at the price of eggs at the grocery store checkout sealed his fate as being out of touch. At least The Man from Hope felt my pain at that moment.
    Well, if the economy is going so darn good, why are ONE in FOUR Americans between 18 and 53 unemployed? Them are numbers straight out of The Great Depression. And, to stifle the projected arguments against this, I will go out on a plank and say one or two quarters does not a year make. Took only 6 years for some green sprouts to take root. Please, please, ask what we could have done differently. I dare ya. I double dog dare you. have a good one…one what I have no idea.

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  26. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Quite the contrary. Congress and the President have bickered on which way we are going as a country. Such case went out to the jury on Tuesday, and their near unanimous verdict was we are going with the Republicans.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar

    RE:Todd writes:
    “Scott the Emery’s have their view (whatever that is) and no one can say anything that will change their minds.”
    Todd, I have made a paradigm shift and from now on will only vote third party , something that a genetic Republican such as yourself is incapable of doing. You are the one who cannot change.

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  28. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Regulatory overreach is an important topic. Do we need to certify that we all have the proper number and placement of smoke and CO1 detectors in our homes, as I recently discovered when replacing my 23 year old central heating unit? I think not, but.. where do we draw the lines on what is overreach and what is necessary? Is mandating clean water overreach? Is wheelchair access overreach? Perhaps a good topic for future discussions. Where does our nation draw the line between the public’s interests and corporate interests, which, for the most part, are not one and the same.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Brother Ben, the voter’s have spoken. You may say they had no real choice, just to pick one of the two peas in the pod. Well, then, look at results. Many places had a ballot chock full of Independents, Libertarian Party folks, Green Party Banana Heads, American Independent Party, American Socialist Party, etc. They all lost and Barry Sanders is none too pleased. Heck, your side almost won in the Kansas Senatorial Race after the lib done dropped out. That would have given Senator Sanders some company and proof it could be done.
    You should be happy. More and more folks are declaring they are independents. I like independents. Without them and some blue collar Dems voting for the R candidates, the libs would have never been swept out of office just 2 days ago.
    People had a choice to vote for whomever was on the ballot. As previously pointed out, my man Elvis D Presley came in 3rd in the Governor’s race in Arkansas. Proof that people can make choices when given the opportunity.
    The American voter has voted. The results are in. They are mostly legit. Agree or disagree, like it or not, we have to accept the vote tally. Even Measure S supporters have to accept their resounding stomping at the polls, take a deep breath, and regroup. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, again. To bad Ross Perot or George Wallace or Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson was not on the ballot again. But, they were not. Read them and weep. I know, I have on many occasions. Sure, some out there are more qualified, but they garnered zero support or 1% and did not appear on too many ballots. We have a choice, but it will never be a choice you agree with. Don’t you just hate that awful place where the rubber meets the road?

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    BarryP 1115pm – OK, it looks like your use of ‘bickering’ is different than mine. I reserve its use to describe ongoing acerbic disagreement over pointless and/or inconsequential matters, which I don’t believe has been the case between Repubs and Dems. Your use of bickering seems to be more encompassing to include any kind of ongoing disagreement.
    But I didn’t see an answer to my 1053am question.

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  31. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Bill,
    Nationwide registration totals are roughly
    independent of D or R – 43%
    Democratic Party – 32%
    Republican – 27%
    Yet the only choice we really get is R or D on the ballot from numerous obstacles(usually monetary) put in place by the R’s and D’s.
    I encourage you to read
    Grand Illusion
    The Myth of Voter Choice in a Two Party http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2244522.Grand_IllusionTyranny
    The book is very detailed and incredibly sourced on how the Democrats destroyed any opportunity for Ralph Nader to compete side by side with the D and R Presidential Candidates. The book is written by Theresa Amato who at one time was a libertarian and I think she is probably DTS at this point.
    Theresa Amato Three Key Reforms to Electoral Politics in US
    1. Elimination the Electoral College. She argues that this is important because a true democracy provides more than two candidates or parties for any election, and she sees the Electoral College as the major obstacle preventing us from achieving a more legitimate democracy. (See more about FairVote’s position on the Electoral College here. We’re not for it.)
    2. Federalization of Federal Elections. This is necessary, she writes, in order to make the elections more uniform. She asserts that states have proven too inept and prone to corruption, and people themselves are mobile and not bound by mere geography. FairVote’s solution is similar; we suggest implementing federal standards for elections, even as states hold their own elections.
    3. Proportional Representation and Instant Runoff Voting. At both the state and federal levels, Amato encourages these methods of voting, as they allow for greater fairness and greater representation, she contends. FairVote heartily agrees

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  32. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Paul,
    “Todd, I have made a paradigm shift and from now on will only vote third party , something that a genetic Republican such as yourself is incapable of doing. You are the one who cannot change.”
    I have virtually been there except candidates I support like Heidi Hall and Brian Dahle for the last 20 years. I did vote for Obama in 08’and it is my only vote I have regretted, in 2012 I actively worked against Obama. I voted for Jerry Brown in 2014 not because I support him because the Republican candidate was awful, in 2010 I did not vote for Brown when I was given a choice of somebody different. With our anti democratic Top Two Primaries my vote in the primary will not go to either of the top two candidates with the most money to spend.

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  33. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    No that was the answer, I am just pressed for time. “Congress and the President have bickered on which way we are going as a country.” That is a principle based argument. I agree with your statement of 10:53a and the American people chose to go the Republican route.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    My, my, shocking stats there Ben. Only 27% are Republicans? That is what I would call a bone-I-fied minority. A small minority. So, if the minority can team up with the independents and Dems to have their voices heard, that is what I call the voice of the people. I turn your attention of just two days ago as evidence item 1. Also, we should assume that not all Republicans voted straight party ticket and neither did the Dems or else the results would have been different.
    I feel sorry for the average tax paying Democrat. He must at times be shaking his head and wondering who hijacked his party. Answer: the libs/progressives/Marxists. Reminiscent of Obama shaking his head wondering who hijacked the religion of his youth and his father’s religion. Taken over by fringe radicals. Perhaps the Democrat Party is really the party of radicals, not the party of blue collar taxpayers, aka, John Q Public.
    Perhaps our nation is recognizing taxpayers’ rights and expressing itself at the ballot box in like manner. WI is an example with its majority Dem voters who are siding with the taxpayers as opposed to spouting the party line. Give the folks a choice and they leap at the chance. I always felt State, Federal, and local governments should get out of the business (and expense) of collecting dues for the unions. If someone wants to eagerly pay their dues and belong to an association (right to association), then have at it. It should be the individuals’ choice (liberty) and does not infringe on any other person. The taxpayers pay for governments and this is an emergence of my sentiments, which happens to be a majority opinion for now. Guess free birth control is not the top priority as per those who have hijacked the Democrat Party and continually tell the man on the street this is an urgent manner.

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  35. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Theresa Amato’s ideas are pure collectivist left wing nonsense.
    1. Eliminate the Electoral College: Swell. Let’s have a relative handful of left wing urban population centers permanently control everyone else.
    2. Federalization of Federal Elections: Because the federal govt is just the swellest at getting things done on time and under budget. And there isn’t a ‘smidgeon’ of corruption with those boys and girls. Ever.
    3. Proportional Representation and Instant Runoff Voting: You mean ‘one dollar – one vote’? Ha ha. PR sounds great to lefties until some one like Rand Paul comes into power. He would mostly side with Rs and the left would suddenly decide it doesn’t like the idea so much any more. The left loves the idea of pure democracy until the ‘wrong’ folks get into power.
    There are plenty of things wrong with the elections in this country. I would heartily agree that the ‘presidential debates’ are a joke. They are usually closed to outsiders and the moderators are almost never neutral. And there isn’t much ‘debate’. It’s usually a game of idiot sound bites and trying to play gotcha with any slight stumble over the choice of words.
    The problem for fans of Mr Nader and his ilk is that most Americans really don’t want him to run anything in govt. They might like his populous take on ‘rich fat cats’ taking everyones’ money but when his actual proposals are laid out, it becomes clear that anyone who earns and saves money is a targeted ‘fat cat’. Go out and ask folks in the general public if they’re fine with more and higher taxes and much more expensive fuel and power. That’ll get Ralph a lot of votes.

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  36. RL Crabb Avatar

    Rather than any debates, I would like to see an hour long conversation with the candidates individually, along the lines of Charlie Rose or Afterwords on C-Span. I get much more out of those programs than the sound bites the one minute debate response.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    To quote a good man,, I say to the LIBS crying in their bong water,,” embrace the suck”.
    You brought it on yourselves.
    So much for the Lefty predictions that the nation just LOVED the Progressive way as claimed.
    What’s this laying on the ground? Well now.. It’s an Progressive ass! Here,, let me hand it to ya’. ( with double gloved hands)

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  38. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    George 10:53 “Maybe I have overlooked something” I think the primary motivator for all Congresspersons votes is campaign contributions, which in effect, translates to ideology rather than common sense. They do what the contributors want or the contributions go to someone else. Citizens United had a huge influence in the House elections of 2012 and an even greater influence in the 2014 Senate elections. It will be interesting to see the final campaign finance reports from this year’s elections. Another anomaly the media isn’t’ talking much about is the fact that in several states voters passed referendums on raising the minimum wage while, at the same time, voted for Republicans who, for the most part, oppose minimum wage increases. This doesn’t make much sense unless one factors in the volume of super-pac negative attack ads. People didn’t vote for Republicans as much as voted against Democrats. It seems that the last six years of constant finger pointing (from Benghazi to the IRS and beyond) by the right has paid off. It is too bad that not much good for the country came along with it.

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 06 November 2014 at 11:17 AM
    Why do you think I take your intended slight as a slight regarding my party choice? I am a free thinker, and I am more in tune to the R’s and it is a natural fit and choice pf which I am proud of. So have at it Paul Emery, call me whatever you want but the bottom line is I am happy with my choice.
    You seem to be all over the place, unable to make a choice. Now you apparently have no core beliefs. Third Party forever. What a hoot. Is that a Green? Maybe a Larouche? How about a Weatherman? Or a Peace and Freedom? My goodness, if the country is in a shithole it is becasue people like you put it there with no core beliefs!
    Ben Emery says R’s make u only 27% of the national registration yet they won in the face of 73% being other parties. Why do you think that happened? Because people in the 43% Third Party groups can’t organize! Why not go determine the provincials of those people and get back to us. Hell, matbe I might even agree!

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Joe Koyote, we agree!!!! During the last 6 years, ” it is too bad that not much good for the country came along with it.” Amen, now you are preaching to the choir. And you correctly pointed out that people did not vote for R’s as much as against the Dems.. Amen again, stand on your chairs and get your hands in the air!! Yep, over half the country voted against the Democrats. This was a 100% rejection of the Dems, no doubt each and every way you slice it. Old shaking Nancy can polish the turd, but it’s still a turd sandwich the people of the United States of America handed Ole Harry and very old Nancy. Even Botox can’t help her now.
    But no worries. Nancy is still shaking her shaky finger and telling the world “their days are numbered.” Shaking like Bobby Byrd. Makes me wonder whose days are numbered. The R’s or the old old guard of old dinosaur Dems, like the aging Di-Fi, and Babs, and Nancy, and Harry, and Charlie Rangel?
    Thank goodness the R’s brought in a whole new crop of the young fresh faces and new blood. A lot of 40 something’s sent a lot of 60-70 something’s to then employment line…oppps, make that to the line that passes out SSI beyond full retirement age.
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Democratic-disaster-casts-shadow-on-Nancy-Pelosi-5873001.php

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Not wait just a cotton picking minute. I was reading sfgate.com when the site said I might like this and provided a link to Fox Business. What the heck is happening? Don’t tell me that sfgate,com is rejecting the Dems as well. Say it ain’t so. I cannot believe my aging eyeballs:
    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3876277112001/laura-ingrahams-take-on-the-midterm-election-results/?intcmp=sem_outloud#sp=show-clips

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    JoeK 500pm – That’s an acceptable interpretation Joe. But its corollary is that the voters also wanted the Repubs to now take a cut at leadership and see what they could do to push through their agenda. Everyone accepted that the Dems’ progressive agenda had failed to make life better on all counts.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    For Joe and Co.
    How the new spin master of the W.H. puts (or tries to) lipstick on the pig.
    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/wh-press-lols-earnest-s-refusal-admit-dems-lost-or-losing-bad
    Libs can say they won! Nancy the witch Pelosi won in a landslide, And Jerry Moonbeam won his fourth term. So look at the bright side.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Darn, I never thought I would see the day when I actually would briefly feel a twinge of sympathy for Josh Earnest. The L word is stuck in his caw.
    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/wh-press-lols-earnest-s-refusal-admit-dems-lost-or-losing-bad
    Dr. Rebane is right. The clock now starts ticking on the Republicans. The hourglass only holds two years of sand.
    Might as well add Louisiana to the R column. The DNC is pulling all ads in LA cause they are in debt, broke, busted, kaput. Figure the DNC got a valuable life lesson. Running campaigns on borrowed money or running anything on borrowed money is no bueno. If you are going to play, you are going to pay.
    Now even Wall Street can smell the L word and the money is drying up for Debbie Downer and the Democrat Party. Even her facelift can’t turn Wall Street’s head and make them Fat Cats open up their wallets. I do feel sorry for Louisiana’s native daughter, Ms. Mary Landrou; abandoned and all alone after carrying water for Obama for so many years. Thrown under the bus. Strike that. Pushed under the bus. Sad day for Losers.

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, I defer to you. Timing was quite good.

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  46. Russ Steele Avatar

    All Republican successes were not in the Senate and Governorships. We also had some small political successes in California:
    Republicans, who have already blocked a Democratic super-majority in the California Senate, have also succeeded in defeating a Democratic super-majority in the Assembly.
    The only question remaining: How many seats will Democrats lose in the lower house?

    http://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/05/democrats-lose-super-majority-in-ca-assembly/#sthash.K1RPaFpq.dpuf

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  47. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Re: Minimum wage. Most readers will not know that the typical union wage agreement doesn’t specify “x” amount for an hourly wage, but specifies “minimum wage” plus “y” for the skill level involved. This means, in cold blood, that if the minimum wage goes up, all union wages, including our public servants, will go up by the same amount. Think about that for awhile…L

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  48. George Rebane Avatar

    LarryW 946pm – I had forgotten that some (typical?) union wages are pegged to the minimum wage. Do you have a link to a reference that discusses how widespread such practice is? What this necessarily means is that when such wages go up, productivity must necessarily go down, thereby making business owners at all levels that employ union and minimum wage workers have another reason to seek alternatives to labor.

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  49. drivebyposter Avatar
    drivebyposter

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-9-billion-witness-20141106
    The timing of the story’s release is kind of handy (vs. the recent election), I admit.

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  50. Russ Steele Avatar

    The Talking Points Memo:
    Older voters helped propel Republicans to sweeping victories Tuesday in Senate and gubernatorial races nationwide, according to exit polls from NBC News.
    The disparity between the under-30 and over-60 was the widest it’s been in a decade, those polls found. The seniors comprised 37 percent of the electorate; young people made up 12 percent.
    That was even more extreme than 2010, another great Republican year, when the split was 32 percent over 60 and 12 percent under 30.
    That analysis rang true for those supporting Democrats in key battleground states on Election Day. One source familiar with the Colorado Senate race told TPM on Tuesday that youth turnout there had been “pathetic.”

    We have the most seniors of any county in California, and they spoke with authority on Measure S. Well Done!

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